ScaramoucheFandango 15.01.2007 20:48 |
what is the untitled hidden track exactly? and why is it so long (22:33)? |
deleted user 15.01.2007 21:12 |
It's a track ... from HEAVEN. Yeaaaaaaah. |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 15.01.2007 21:14 |
its called 'ambulance'. coz thats where everyone said i would end up if i ever put it on the jukebox in my old local drinking hole |
magicalfreddiemercury 15.01.2007 21:58 |
Hidden track = a musical journey to Heaven. |
icefire 16.01.2007 08:20 |
i haven't heard a hidden track and i seem to be hopeless to.. |
Serry... 16.01.2007 08:23 |
It's "Track 13", but why it's hidden? There are no any pauses between Beautiful Day and that tune... Hidden track is on Brian's Another World, but Track 13 is not hidden. |
violonbleu 16.01.2007 09:25 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: It's "Track 13", but why it's hidden? There are no any pauses between Beautiful Day and that tune... Hidden track is on Brian's Another World, but Track 13 is not hidden.I think that by "hidden" they mean that without listening to the album, we are not supposed to know the existence of this track 13. I've always been astonished by the track 12 too: why does it not make part of track 11? But I think that in fact, both 12and13 are NOT to be called Hidden tracks, because when you listen to the whole album, there is a "YEAH", then you think it's the end, you want to take the DISC, but...it's still playing! then you turn the volume very loud and you heard that something is still happening. And finally you understand why the album is more than 70 minutes playing. And it is more easily understandable than the another world track: the first time I listened to Another world I didn't noticed it, but the first time I listened to Made in Heaven, I did well. So...track 13 of MIH: Hidden for the eyes, Not for the ears; hidden track from AW: Hidden for both eyes and ears. + track 13 is separated from track 11 (and 12) on MIH, and hidden track in AW is not separated from the last track, but it could be; and there is a big pause. Now I go sleeping after have written so bad :-) |
gnomo 16.01.2007 09:26 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: It's "Track 13", but why it's hidden?... were 12 and 13 NOT listed on the cover...? (I haven't got the record at hand) |
Serry... 16.01.2007 13:19 |
Weren't. |
Serry... 16.01.2007 13:46 |
"Hidden track is a piece of music which has been deliberately placed on a Compact Disc, audio cassette, vinyl record or other recorded medium in such a way as to avoid detection by the casual listener. In some cases, the piece of music may simply have been left off the track listing, whilst in other cases more elaborate methods are used. In some rare cases a "hidden track" is actually the result of an error that occurred during the mastering stage of the record's production." I was mean those "more elaborate methods", but it seems like the tracklisting trick makes song "hidden" as well... What a stupid bastard I am! ("QZers like to quote Wikipedia when their own facts and arguements are over" - from the book "QZ and its inhabitants" by Serry Vietinhoff) |
Bobby_brown 16.01.2007 14:52 |
One of the best stories i heard about hidden tracks was on a Beatles LP. Well, it wasn´t hidden but only dogs could hear it! Take care |
ScaramoucheFandango 16.01.2007 18:56 |
I found it on iTunes, but I already have some of the songs from that album, so what I really want to know is if it is a great song and I need to get it or if it is just an ok song and I can live without it. (It is from album purchase only :( ) |
deleted user 16.01.2007 19:24 |
Scaramouch Fandango wrote: I found it on iTunes, but I already have some of the songs from that album, so what I really want to know is if it is a great song and I need to get it or if it is just an ok song and I can live without it. (It is from album purchase only :( )Why don't you just get the whole album ? Track 13 is like a bunch of ambient noises - it's not really a "song". Like misty yoga music or something. But I would think it would be worth it to get the whole album... I mean, I had GH I, II, and III, but that didn't stop me from getting the albums, too ! Maybe not this particular album, but some like Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack should be listened to "as albums" and not just "select cuts (with gravy)". |
MercuryArts 16.01.2007 20:09 |
its a great piece to drift off to sleep too. Or if your just chillin & want to relax. I used to put the stero speaker in the window & play that track on repeat while I gave out candy on Halloween. |
Deacon Fan 17.01.2007 23:29 |
One cool thing about unlisted tracks is they're royalty-free. No writing credit, no copyright, so they're free for anyone to do whatever they want with. Cool huh? |
john bodega 18.01.2007 09:37 |
Bubbles the bunny wrote: One cool thing about unlisted tracks is they're royalty-free. No writing credit, no copyright, so they're free for anyone to do whatever they want with. Cool huh?That mightn't be entirely true, I mean - wouldn't it just count as the end of "A Beautiful Day Reprise"? Hmmm! |
Bohardy 18.01.2007 12:59 |
Not quite Bubbles. link link Those two hidden tracks have songwriting and publishing credits, and it certainly wouldn't be possible to perform these without royalties being due. Strangely though, I can't seem to find 'Track 13' on there, unless it's 'In Memoriam' aka 'Postlude In Memoriam'. Which would make sense given the name of the track, but not the songwriting credit. |
Jan78 18.01.2007 14:04 |
Here it is: link Jan |
vadenuez 18.01.2007 15:12 |
Funny, the registered title of Yeah is 'Yeah' |
Lester Burnham 18.01.2007 15:20 |
vadenuez wrote: Funny, the registered title of Yeah is 'Yeah'What else would it be registered as? |
thomasquinn 32989 18.01.2007 15:43 |
Bubbles the bunny wrote: One cool thing about unlisted tracks is they're royalty-free. No writing credit, no copyright, so they're free for anyone to do whatever they want with. Cool huh?You couldn't be further from the truth; intellectual property rights are automatically attached to any work as soon as it is created; no separate copyright claims need to be made, only legal proof of having recorded/written/etc. said work on the claimed date is required. |
The Real Wizard 18.01.2007 17:08 |
Bobby_brown wrote: One of the best stories i heard about hidden tracks was on a Beatles LP. Well, it wasn´t hidden but only dogs could hear it!I once heard about this too, but I forget which album it was. Can you refresh my memory? |
Deacon Fan 18.01.2007 17:57 |
Heh, well it would make a fun court case anyway. It's unlisted and just happens to be there as far as I'm concerned. A 'mistake', perhaps not even recorded by Queen. Yeah, that's it. |
AlexRocks 18.01.2007 18:20 |
One of the most unique ways to hide a track was done by the rock group Better Than Ezra on their 1996 studio l.p. release "Friction, Baby" where in order to hear it as soon as the c.d. starts playing you have to rewind the c.d. all through the song until it ends and then plays on it's own...as in it is hidden BEFORE track ONE!!! CrAzY huh? |
Deacon Fan 18.01.2007 20:18 |
AlexRocks wrote: One of the most unique ways to hide a track was done by the rock group Better Than Ezra on their 1996 studio l.p. release "Friction, Baby" where in order to hear it as soon as the c.d. starts playing you have to rewind the c.d. all through the song until it ends and then plays on it's own...as in it is hidden BEFORE track ONE!!! CrAzY huh?Ahh! I think they must have used the pause or 'countdown' time then.. this is a clever trick in making CDs. Some players don't recognize this pause time and just play it straight through with a time display as if part of the previous track, but others will sit there with a minus time counting down before the track starts. I think Sony has some expensive software that lets you put sound in that time (you can do blank pauses in Nero but not with sound in them). But I discovered a way to do it.. it's kinda complicated. First you make up a full disc and eliminate the stuff you want in the pauses, making note of the exact length of them, then create pauses in Nero of that length. Then use EAC or something else which creates a cue sheet image file, and simply edit the full wav, mixing in (not changing the length) the sounds you want over the silence. However if they've done this all in the first pause before the very first song, that's even more clever and I have no idea how they did that :) |
sparrow 21754 18.01.2007 21:12 |
Bubbles the bunny wrote:ah i found one of those once buti dont remember which album! it was cool but i havent been able to do it since. it was an accident...AlexRocks wrote: One of the most unique ways to hide a track was done by the rock group Better Than Ezra on their 1996 studio l.p. release "Friction, Baby" where in order to hear it as soon as the c.d. starts playing you have to rewind the c.d. all through the song until it ends and then plays on it's own...as in it is hidden BEFORE track ONE!!! CrAzY huh?Ahh! I think they must have used the pause or 'countdown' time then.. this is a clever trick in making CDs. Some players don't recognize this pause time and just play it straight through with a time display as if part of the previous track, but others will sit there with a minus time counting down before the track starts. I think Sony has some expensive software that lets you put sound in that time (you can do blank pauses in Nero but not with sound in them). But I discovered a way to do it.. it's kinda complicated. First you make up a full disc and eliminate the stuff you want in the pauses, making note of the exact length of them, then create pauses in Nero of that length. Then use EAC or something else which creates a cue sheet image file, and simply edit the full wav, mixing in (not changing the length) the sounds you want over the silence. However if they've done this all in the first pause before the very first song, that's even more clever and I have no idea how they did that :) my little casio piano ive had since age 3 has 2 demos but for some reason it played a demo by itself one day.... weeeiiiiirrrd |
kdj2hot 18.01.2007 22:23 |
Scaramouch Fandango wrote: what is the untitled hidden track exactly? and why is it so long (22:33)?buy the damn album you cheap bastard. |
john bodega 19.01.2007 05:54 |
Some humans can hear the tone at the end of the Beatles song. Despite a bit of tinnitus, I can hear it quite well! It drives me nuts actually... a really unpleasant sound Thanks Lennon! |
Bobby_brown 19.01.2007 15:49 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:This is some trivia that i found on the internet about it:Bobby_brown wrote: One of the best stories i heard about hidden tracks was on a Beatles LP. Well, it wasn´t hidden but only dogs could hear it!I once heard about this too, but I forget which album it was. Can you refresh my memory? The Beatles were responsible for what may be the first "hidden track" (although it may not be considered a full track) on the 1967 album Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band: a collection of sounds were inserted at the end of the LP, including some in the run-off groove. After the final chord of "A Day In The Life" dies out, there follows an extremely high-pitched sound, apparently intended to annoy the listener's dog. This is followed by an odd collection of Beatle nonsense chatter in the run-off groove, forming a continuous loop which would go on infinitely if the album was left alone on records players which do not include an auto-return arm. This was recreated on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band CD version (which fades out after a few seconds) and is not a separate track but part of "A Day in the Life". Take care |
~im a fool~ 20.01.2007 18:00 |
i think the real question is: is there a hidden track on innuendo? because before i bought the album, my dad downloded it. and after the show must go on, if you listen for a while theres this weird thing with brianmay singing. or at least i think it is brian. and the it just cuts off. im gonna go try to listen to that copy now. |
_Bijou_ 20.01.2007 18:05 |
I've noticed that on the end of 'The Show Must Go On' that if you turn the volume right up at the end the 'Go on's' change slightly. I don't know how to describe it but if you do it you'll know what I mean. |
Deacon Fan 20.01.2007 20:25 |
Bijou In Queens Crown wrote: I've noticed that on the end of 'The Show Must Go On' that if you turn the volume right up at the end the 'Go on's' change slightly. I don't know how to describe it but if you do it you'll know what I mean.Yeah they start to sound like they're sung through a tunnel or something. I know what you mean. If you turn up Teo Torriatte near the end you can hear the outro actually ending rather than just fading. |
Lester Burnham 20.01.2007 23:22 |
Bobby_brown wrote:Actually, there's a hidden track proper on The White Album, which comes between... er, I can't remember what songs... it might be right before Revolution 9, but the song is called Can You Take Me Back and is performed entirely by Paul.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:This is some trivia that i found on the internet about it: The Beatles were responsible for what may be the first "hidden track" (although it may not be considered a full track) on the 1967 album Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band: a collection of sounds were inserted at the end of the LP, including some in the run-off groove. After the final chord of "A Day In The Life" dies out, there follows an extremely high-pitched sound, apparently intended to annoy the listener's dog. This is followed by an odd collection of Beatle nonsense chatter in the run-off groove, forming a continuous loop which would go on infinitely if the album was left alone on records players which do not include an auto-return arm. This was recreated on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band CD version (which fades out after a few seconds) and is not a separate track but part of "A Day in the Life". Take careBobby_brown wrote: One of the best stories i heard about hidden tracks was on a Beatles LP. Well, it wasn´t hidden but only dogs could hear it!I once heard about this too, but I forget which album it was. Can you refresh my memory? |
The Real Wizard 23.01.2007 12:17 |
azzadude wrote: It was at the end of "day in the life"... And it only works on vynle to my knowledge as i have tried it on the cd and my dog just look's at me as if to say,,, "what the fuk are doing, put this shit of and take me for a walk"Hahahaha!! Nice. Bobby_brown wrote: The Beatles were responsible for what may be the first "hidden track" (although it may not be considered a full track) on the 1967 album Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band: a collection of sounds were inserted at the end of the LP, including some in the run-off groove. After the final chord of "A Day In The Life" dies out, there follows an extremely high-pitched sound, apparently intended to annoy the listener's dog. This is followed by an odd collection of Beatle nonsense chatter in the run-off groove, forming a continuous loop which would go on infinitely if the album was left alone on records players which do not include an auto-return arm. This was recreated on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band CD version (which fades out after a few seconds) and is not a separate track but part of "A Day in the Life".Awesome. Thanks for that! |
Jan78 23.01.2007 21:15 |
I remember now...I had it on my CD of Sgt Pepper. There was a longer beep and then a mess of voices going like "Never could be any other one." and something like it looped over and over. Weird thing... Jan |