deleted user 01.01.2007 22:03 |
I knew that title would get your attention. My uncle calls Freddie Mercury "Faggy Mercury" all the time...he seems to not get it that Freddie Mercury was a man of extremes and a man who was very loving and caring. It upsets me that some people can be so ignorant about homosexuals...especially when they speak of Freddie in such a way. It's disgusting. In this topic I would like for Queenzoners to discuss how they feel about people's ignorance towards Freddie Mercury. Thank you for taking the time in leaving your thoughts and opinions...it's much appreciated! |
YourValentine 01.01.2007 23:22 |
Moved to the General Forum. |
deleted user 02.01.2007 00:12 |
Well... my mum calls him that, but she's just joking (because she LOVES him). There are a few different theories about how / why homosexuality "happens" or "develops". And I honestly couldn't say which is right. From my own life, I would lean towards the events/experiences (and your perception of them) in your life being the things that make up who you are, tied in with what I understand of chaos theory. Or something. At the end of the day, I prefer not to think about it and just let life happen. I come from a family where it's pretty much okay to joke about anything. So a lot of things I would be okay saying or joking about might be "insensitive" to some people. Of course, I know that's different than someone saying it just to be mean. I think it's best to have a sense of humour about these things. There's no use getting mad, especially if you'll never "change their mind". But being able to "turn it into a joke" or laugh it off will leave you feeling much better than if you take it personally or seriously. And now it's beddy-time. :P |
deleted user 02.01.2007 00:43 |
YourValentine wrote: Moved to the General Forum.Sorry...I didn't mean to break any rules. |
Serry... 02.01.2007 02:44 |
I don't care about opinions about Freddie. |
icefire 02.01.2007 04:33 |
as always Serrie's opinion is clear and exact ;) i agree! |
Raststätte-Knödel 02.01.2007 05:31 |
I hate it when they talk about him like that!! My mum has just offended Brian too...She said he looked scary and that he was an overaged, old hippie. |
radio_what's_new 02.01.2007 08:42 |
MercuryLines wrote: I hate it when they talk about him like that!! My mum has just offended Brian too...She said he looked scary and that he was an overaged, old hippie.Face it: Freddie was gay and Brian is as ugly as hell. (and so is his wife) Who gives a shit anyway? It's all about the music. |
Rick 02.01.2007 09:40 |
That^ and Freddie is dead, so who cares? I mean if you had an overbite like that... |
deleted user 02.01.2007 09:45 |
radio_what's_new wrote:Some people still don't get it....they take Freddie too personally...as if they KNEW him. You didn't KNOW him (unless of course you did, and then I shall apologize :P). Freddie was a PERSON. He LIVED just like any other normal PERSON. Freddie wasn't god. Freddie wasn't a hero. Freddie was just Freddie with an amazing musical ability (perferably vocal). If anyone should say ANYTHING at all about Freddie (be it "Freddie's gay" or "His teeth are crooked" etc...Who gives a shit? Freddie should be given the chance of being treated like a person; and people are made fun of. I fucking hate how he's supposed to be "SPECIAL"....He's a goddamn person damnit!MercuryLines wrote: I hate it when they talk about him like that!! My mum has just offended Brian too...She said he looked scary and that he was an overaged, old hippie.Face it: Freddie was gay and Brian is as ugly as hell. (and so is his wife) Who gives a shit anyway? It's all about the music. Final conclusion: Freddie's gay. He had AIDS. He died (unfortunately ;_;). But he had talent, and he was an amazing musician. You can't stop opinions. People will ALWAYS mock, tease, and be unfair about it. Least you can do is ignore. Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh... So, like Charles said, "turn it into a joke". :) "How do you know he's a fag...did you sleep with him"? lol...maybe not that extreme...but still....people will NEVER change. You can't expect EVERYONE to love Freddie....because they never will :( |
deleted user 02.01.2007 09:49 |
And also........there isn't MUCH ignorance towards Freddie, IMO. He's actually pretty well respected and aknowledged. :) Maybe it is about the music.......maybe it's not...who really knows? ALSO...think of him being called "gay" as special. Not an insult :D |
magicalfreddiemercury 02.01.2007 10:00 |
His music lives on, nearly everyone recognizes his name, and no one can deny his impressive - outstanding - performances from day one until the end. People can insult him all they want. He's the legend he always knew he'd be. Insults matter not in the least. |
deleted user 02.01.2007 10:02 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: His music lives on, nearly everyone recognizes his name, and no one can deny his impressive - outstanding - performances from day one until the end. People can insult him all they want. He's the legend he always knew he'd be. Insults matter not in the least.I second this; it sums up what I was TRYING to say =P |
una999 02.01.2007 10:02 |
First to that guy who believes in chaos theory about why someone is gay - bullshit in all honesty. Because u had a traumatic experience u start loving men over women? That's just psychologists making money off people. Now about what people call freddie - irrelevant. More u get angry the more they'll keep it up. If your mother calls him Faggy, you say to your mother do u want to listen to Faggy - she wont be long stopping it cos she'll realise how retarded it sounds |
deleted user 02.01.2007 10:41 |
una999 wrote: First to that guy who believes in chaos theory about why someone is gay - bullshit in all honesty. Because u had a traumatic experience u start loving men over women? That's just psychologists making money off people.Gee, thank you for adding to my words THINGS I NEVER SAID. I DO NOT think it always has to do with being abused as a child. Though that may be true in SOME cases. I would not expect each person to have the same "reason". Not to mention the fact that people deal with, and express, "trauma" in different ways. For example, you have two brothers who grew up in about the same environment, both were abused - maybe one becomes a social worker to try to help other children, and maybe one winds up in jail for beating his own wife or children. Life is complicated, and somewhere, the chain of perception of the two men differs (obviously). I know this example deals with "trauma", but this leads me to... I think of it more like a chain of events, not "Because of 'X', you are gay". And I mean events that may be on a deep, unconscious, level. Your personal perception of events (or even your re-interpretation of them years later). The experience may not be "traumatic". It may be a gradual association, building up to a point where there's the "light bulb" moment. As for "chaos theory", I'm not saying this is the "reason" people are gay (that doesn't make any sense) - it's just a way I think about things. For instance, if you change one small thing, the future could, theoretically, turn out very differently. I think homosexuality is as much of a mental illness as liking chocolate is. Perhaps there is a genetic "predisposition". I don't know, that's not my area. I suppose it could be a "trigger" that exists as a biological mechanism for population control (lack of reproductive sex). I could theorise about that, but who knows what words you would try to put in my mouth then. You read into my words what you wanted to hear, not what I had to say. |
MarkieKnopflie 02.01.2007 11:07 |
radio_what's_new wrote:^ fuck you, Brian is bestMercuryLines wrote: I hate it when they talk about him like that!! My mum has just offended Brian too...She said he looked scary and that he was an overaged, old hippie.Face it: Freddie was gay and Brian is as ugly as hell. (and so is his wife) Who gives a shit anyway? It's all about the music. |
Jazz 78 02.01.2007 11:15 |
My uncle calls Freddie Mercury "Faggy Mercury" all the time...he seems to not get it that Freddie Mercury was a man of extremes and a man who was very loving and caring. It upsets me that some people can be so ignorant about homosexuals...especially when they speak of Freddie in such a way. It's disgusting. He may call Freddie "faggy" but your uncle is a pussy. Freddie could have bought and sold him a million times over and made him his bitch if he were a live today. |
deleted user 02.01.2007 11:18 |
Jazz 78 wrote: My uncle calls Freddie Mercury "Faggy Mercury" all the time...he seems to not get it that Freddie Mercury was a man of extremes and a man who was very loving and caring. It upsets me that some people can be so ignorant about homosexuals...especially when they speak of Freddie in such a way. It's disgusting. He may call Freddie "faggy" but your uncle is a pussy. Freddie could have bought and sold him a million times over and made him his bitch if he were a live today.LMAO That's an interesting way to put it! :) lol |
Raststätte-Knödel 02.01.2007 11:35 |
<font color="0000FF">Thing #1<h6>hehe :D wrote:I know Freddie wasn't perfect and he was gay, so what? I don't have any problems with that. But I don't like it when people say all the time that being gay is wrong etc and that it was bad that Freddie was gay.radio_what's_new wrote:Some people still don't get it....they take Freddie too personally...as if they KNEW him. You didn't KNOW him (unless of course you did, and then I shall apologize :P). Freddie was a PERSON. He LIVED just like any other normal PERSON. Freddie wasn't god. Freddie wasn't a hero. Freddie was just Freddie with an amazing musical ability (perferably vocal). If anyone should say ANYTHING at all about Freddie (be it "Freddie's gay" or "His teeth are crooked" etc...Who gives a shit? Freddie should be given the chance of being treated like a person; and people are made fun of. I fucking hate how he's supposed to be "SPECIAL"....He's a goddamn person damnit! Final conclusion: Freddie's gay. He had AIDS. He died (unfortunately ;_;). But he had talent, and he was an amazing musician. You can't stop opinions. People will ALWAYS mock, tease, and be unfair about it. Least you can do is ignore. Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh... So, like Charles said, "turn it into a joke". :) "How do you know he's a fag...did you sleep with him"? lol...maybe not that extreme...but still....people will NEVER change. You can't expect EVERYONE to love Freddie....because they never will :(MercuryLines wrote: I hate it when they talk about him like that!! My mum has just offended Brian too...She said he looked scary and that he was an overaged, old hippie.Face it: Freddie was gay and Brian is as ugly as hell. (and so is his wife) Who gives a shit anyway? It's all about the music. Oh, and i don't care what my mum said about Brian too, seriously :) I thought it was kind of funny what she said lol I didn't mean it that seriously!! |
deleted user 02.01.2007 11:46 |
... Person : OH MY GOD !! Freddie Mercury... he was, like, a FAG, wasn't he ??? Me : And he smoked them, too ! Though that wasn't really good for his voice... I hear sticky things like honey are good for - Person : Wait ?! What ?! EEWWWWWW. ... Person : You listen to GAY music. Me : I wasn't aware it had a gender in the first place... Person : What ??? Me : Though I guess it would be neat if Queen mated with, I don't know, ELO... but I'm not really sure who's a boy or girl... Person : I meant gay as in, like, STUPID. Me : Your colloquial usage is great. As an amateur etymologist, I would like to propose that "cabbage" now means "snarky". Person : Woa... that's a big word. |
deleted user 02.01.2007 11:58 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: ... Person : OH MY GOD !! Freddie Mercury... he was, like, a FAG, wasn't he ??? Me : And he smoked them, too ! Though that wasn't really good for his voice... I hear sticky things like honey are good for - Person : Wait ?! What ?! EEWWWWWW. ... Person : You listen to GAY music. Me : I wasn't aware it had a gender in the first place... Person : What ??? Me : Though I guess it would be neat if Queen mated with, I don't know, ELO... but I'm not really sure who's a boy or girl... Person : I meant gay as in, like, STUPID. Me : Your colloquial usage is great. As an amateur etymologist, I would like to propose that "cabbage" now means "snarky". Person : Woa... that's a big word.Sweet! I love your humor...I'm so gonna use that on the jerks who make fun of Queen! You ROCK Charles! :P |
Micrówave 02.01.2007 12:37 |
Miles Davis was a heroin addict. He would often blow sessions because of his habit. James Brown was a flat-out gangster. They would play small US southern towns because they could make more money selling drugs along the way. But we don't listen to the music because of what the artists do in the off-time, do we? Except you rappers... |
brENsKi 02.01.2007 12:58 |
MercuryLines wrote: I hate it when they talk about him like that!! My mum has just offended Brian too...She said he looked scary and that he was an overaged, old hippie.how has that offended BRIAN? - he would probably agree with her |
flash! 28068 02.01.2007 13:26 |
Hmm, i get the same sometimes. One time i was watching Kenny Everett on TV and my mother came in and started questioning about when he died. So i told her and then she said "But i thought he was one of the first to die of AIDS??" I replied, "No, many died before him. Like... Freddie Mercury", directing her to a lovely picture of him on my wall. She then said, "Well, He probably caught it from him!!" ... Stupid, stupid woman! She'll never learn. :P |
una999 02.01.2007 14:10 |
The Audacity of Charles - Good reply, i quite liked it |
skiqueen 03.01.2007 12:00 |
coversation i had with my 12 year old bro yesterday at the kitchen table (we were joking around :)) Bro: when i was little i thought that everyone in Queen was gay. Me: Pat, when you were little, you had no idea what gay was. You probably didnt even know Freddie was gay. Bro: No! I swear! I thought everyone was gay! Me: Pat, you're such an idiot. Bro: Well, not Roger, cuz I thought he was just a HUNKY CHUNKY! :D I laughed for like 10 minutes, you had to be there, it was hilarious. |
deleted user 03.01.2007 16:54 |
<font color=black>Khashoggi<h6>St. Hyper wrote:Totally agreed. When I read this forum title I laughed. And then when I read what it was about, I laughed even harder. People are ingorant. They will always BE ignorant, and there is nothing we can do but be good respectful people ourselves. If we try to push our views and opinions on others, aren't we, in a way, becoming like the igorants (not trying to stereotype, but many a Christian Conservative have said things like this) in the first place? Just a thought. Freddie Mercury was great. Yes, I didn't know him, but he was a great musician and he sounds like a great man. If others can't see that, it's their loss...<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: ... Person : OH MY GOD !! Freddie Mercury... he was, like, a FAG, wasn't he ??? Me : And he smoked them, too ! Though that wasn't really good for his voice... I hear sticky things like honey are good for - Person : Wait ?! What ?! EEWWWWWW. ... Person : You listen to GAY music. Me : I wasn't aware it had a gender in the first place... Person : What ??? Me : Though I guess it would be neat if Queen mated with, I don't know, ELO... but I'm not really sure who's a boy or girl... Person : I meant gay as in, like, STUPID. Me : Your colloquial usage is great. As an amateur etymologist, I would like to propose that "cabbage" now means "snarky". Person : Woa... that's a big word.Sweet! I love your humor...I'm so gonna use that on the jerks who make fun of Queen! You ROCK Charles! :P |
Neppset 08.01.2007 16:40 |
I feel like giving people that say "OMG Freddie is so gay and stupid I hate him" a kick in crotch. That people even dares to disrespect the greatest vocalist of all time is a shame. A crime. |
rc 09.01.2007 16:46 |
Freddie Mercury is the best of the best...of the best. Nobody really gives a flying shit what he did in his private life. Furthermore, it's nobody's business! Like someone else said, it's all about the music. That's what matters. |
Kensington Love 10.01.2007 01:05 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote: Hmm, i get the same sometimes. One time i was watching Kenny Everett on TV and my mother came in and started questioning about when he died. So i told her and then she said "But i thought he was one of the first to die of AIDS??" I replied, "No, many died before him. Like... Freddie Mercury", directing her to a lovely picture of him on my wall. She then said, "Well, He probably caught it from him!!" ... Stupid, stupid woman! She'll never learn. :PMy mother tends to think there must have been something 'wrong' with Freddie for knowing the risks of what he was doing and not protecting himself. :/ |
flash! 28068 10.01.2007 12:16 |
KensingtonLove(Darunkhanawala) wrote:It's possibly due to her growing up in a less acceptable society, darrrrrrrling. *hands you a flower to stop any frustration from misunderstanding parents* :)<font color=red>Flash! wrote: Hmm, i get the same sometimes. One time i was watching Kenny Everett on TV and my mother came in and started questioning about when he died. So i told her and then she said "But i thought he was one of the first to die of AIDS??" I replied, "No, many died before him. Like... Freddie Mercury", directing her to a lovely picture of him on my wall. She then said, "Well, He probably caught it from him!!" ... Stupid, stupid woman! She'll never learn. :PMy mother tends to think there must have been something 'wrong' with Freddie for knowing the risks of what he was doing and not protecting himself. :/ |
flash! 28068 10.01.2007 12:18 |
Double post. |
Poo, again 10.01.2007 13:56 |
Haven't we had like a million threads about this? |
Suigi 10.01.2007 16:01 |
Idiot: Freddie Mercury? Wasn't he that faggot who sang Bohemian Something-or-other? Me: Yes, yes he was. Idiot: He sucked balls, literally AND figuratively. Me: I wouldn't say that if I were you. Idiot: Oh? And why not? Me: You haven't heard the legend? Idiot: ... Me: Whenever anyone insults Freddie Mercury, his spirit visits you in the night. AND FUCKS YOU IN THE ASS. Idiot: What if it's a girl? Me: Doesn't matter. His ghost fucks you in the ass... Idiot: Yeah, whatever. Me: ...And turns you gay. Idiot: OSHIT I'M SO SORRY, FREDDIEEEEEE. Works best on homophobes. |
Kensington Love 12.01.2007 01:07 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote:*thinks Flashy is a sweetheart,as always* :)KensingtonLove(Darunkhanawala) wrote:It's possibly due to her growing up in a less acceptable society, darrrrrrrling. *hands you a flower to stop any frustration from misunderstanding parents* :)<font color=red>Flash! wrote: Hmm, i get the same sometimes. One time i was watching Kenny Everett on TV and my mother came in and started questioning about when he died. So i told her and then she said "But i thought he was one of the first to die of AIDS??" I replied, "No, many died before him. Like... Freddie Mercury", directing her to a lovely picture of him on my wall. She then said, "Well, He probably caught it from him!!" ... Stupid, stupid woman! She'll never learn. :PMy mother tends to think there must have been something 'wrong' with Freddie for knowing the risks of what he was doing and not protecting himself. :/ |