QueenZone discussion #930766

<font color="FF0066">DeadOnTime<h6>w00t wrote: Murder On The Orient Express - Agatha Christie Member Of The Wedding ... and To Kill A Mockingbird...and The Giver....and And Then There Were None...And Stephen King stuff...Where are the Children?....One Child. A bunch more...but my favorite probably has to be 'Murder On The Orient Express'...I just love the suspense. :D

<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote:

<font color="FF0066">DeadOnTime<h6>w00t wrote: Murder On The Orient Express - Agatha Christie Member Of The Wedding ... and To Kill A Mockingbird...and The Giver....and And Then There Were None...And Stephen King stuff...Where are the Children?....One Child. A bunch more...but my favorite probably has to be 'Murder On The Orient Express'...I just love the suspense. :D

'One Child' is that the Torey Hayden book? About Sheila?

<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote: yep 'One Child' is a lovely novel, it's actually real-life. Torey Hayden really did teach that girl!

Danny1 wrote: The Silence Of The Lambs and Red Dragon by Thomas Harris are gruesome but riveting and suspensful.

Danny1 wrote:

<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote:

Danny1 wrote: The Silence Of The Lambs and Red Dragon by Thomas Harris are gruesome but riveting and suspensful.

Danny... I want to say how sorry I am for hurting you. I won't do it again (Anna might) but I won't.

Iam not upset. Lets just forget the whole thing. I would like to say though that you are smart enough not to be a pawn in other peoples silly games.

<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote: How's William Golding's 'Lord of the Flies'? I want to read that as soon as I get a copy.

Danny1 wrote: I have also read The Lord Of The Flies. A group of boys are stranded on a island and revert to their primtive instincts. It is worth reading.

Danny1 wrote: Well, if memory serves the airliner the boys are on crashes due to a atomic blast. So i think one of the statements the author might have been trying to make was that the human race would be reduced almost to the level of animals if a nuclear war happened.

<font color="FF0066">DeadOnTime<h6>w00t wrote: Oh! And A Series of Unfortunate Events. Read ALL of them. :D EXCELLENT.

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: I like very much Hesse's and Dostoyevski's oeuvres... My two 'most' favourite books are 'The Idiot' by Dostoyevski and 'Steppenwolf' by Hesse. An interesting fact is that Hesse named Dostoyevski as one of his most important influences. George Orwell is also an interesting writer... Generally I guess I like classic/modern classic writers like Stefan Zweig, Franz Kafka (with his surreal symbolism), Charles Dickens, Rainer Maria Rilke (who wrote not only poems;-)), Leo Tolstoi, philosophical novels like 'Utopia' by Thomas More, etc. Though I have to say that we read at school a pretty modern novel (from the 50s or so) by Daniel Keynes entitled 'Flowers For Algernon' and I liked it, but it reminded me a lot of Dostoyevski's Idiot...:)

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: I like very much Hesse's and Dostoyevski's oeuvres... My two 'most' favourite books are 'The Idiot' by Dostoyevski and 'Steppenwolf' by Hesse. An interesting fact is that Hesse named Dostoyevski as one of his most important influences. George Orwell is also an interesting writer... Generally I guess I like classic/modern classic writers like Stefan Zweig, Franz Kafka (with his surreal symbolism), Charles Dickens, Rainer Maria Rilke (who wrote not only poems;-)), Leo Tolstoi, philosophical novels like 'Utopia' by Thomas More, etc. Though I have to say that we read at school a pretty modern novel (from the 50s or so) by Daniel Keynes entitled 'Flowers For Algernon' and I liked it, but it reminded me a lot of Dostoyevski's Idiot...:)

joxerthemighty wrote:

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: I like very much Hesse's and Dostoyevski's oeuvres... My two 'most' favourite books are 'The Idiot' by Dostoyevski and 'Steppenwolf' by Hesse. An interesting fact is that Hesse named Dostoyevski as one of his most important influences. George Orwell is also an interesting writer... Generally I guess I like classic/modern classic writers like Stefan Zweig, Franz Kafka (with his surreal symbolism), Charles Dickens, Rainer Maria Rilke (who wrote not only poems;-)), Leo Tolstoi, philosophical novels like 'Utopia' by Thomas More, etc. Though I have to say that we read at school a pretty modern novel (from the 50s or so) by Daniel Keynes entitled 'Flowers For Algernon' and I liked it, but it reminded me a lot of Dostoyevski's Idiot...:)

must admit that apart from orwell and dickens ive never heard of the others you mention

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote:

joxerthemighty wrote:

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: I like very much Hesse's and Dostoyevski's oeuvres... My two 'most' favourite books are 'The Idiot' by Dostoyevski and 'Steppenwolf' by Hesse. An interesting fact is that Hesse named Dostoyevski as one of his most important influences. George Orwell is also an interesting writer... Generally I guess I like classic/modern classic writers like Stefan Zweig, Franz Kafka (with his surreal symbolism), Charles Dickens, Rainer Maria Rilke (who wrote not only poems;-)), Leo Tolstoi, philosophical novels like 'Utopia' by Thomas More, etc. Though I have to say that we read at school a pretty modern novel (from the 50s or so) by Daniel Keynes entitled 'Flowers For Algernon' and I liked it, but it reminded me a lot of Dostoyevski's Idiot...:)

must admit that apart from orwell and dickens ive never heard of the others you mention

That's very sad, because Hermann Hesse, Stefan Zweig, Frank Kafka, Thomas Mann, Rainer Maria Rilke are nearly as famous as Goethe in German literature... The same with Dostoyevski: he is claimed to be the GREATEST Russian writer of all time (naturally along with Pushkin and Leo Tolstoi) - you can actually compare him to Shakespeare's legacy in England/UK. But I agree that's a very weak point in schools nowadays: In Austria, where I went to school we ONLY learned about German and Austrian writers and only a very little bit about the most important English and French writers (and NOTHING about great Russian literature); so I had to explore all the other writers on my own...

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote:

joxerthemighty wrote:

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: I like very much Hesse's and Dostoyevski's oeuvres... My two 'most' favourite books are 'The Idiot' by Dostoyevski and 'Steppenwolf' by Hesse. An interesting fact is that Hesse named Dostoyevski as one of his most important influences. George Orwell is also an interesting writer... Generally I guess I like classic/modern classic writers like Stefan Zweig, Franz Kafka (with his surreal symbolism), Charles Dickens, Rainer Maria Rilke (who wrote not only poems;-)), Leo Tolstoi, philosophical novels like 'Utopia' by Thomas More, etc. Though I have to say that we read at school a pretty modern novel (from the 50s or so) by Daniel Keynes entitled 'Flowers For Algernon' and I liked it, but it reminded me a lot of Dostoyevski's Idiot...:)

must admit that apart from orwell and dickens ive never heard of the others you mention

That's very sad, because Hermann Hesse, Stefan Zweig, Frank Kafka, Thomas Mann, Rainer Maria Rilke are nearly as famous as Goethe in German literature... The same with Dostoyevski: he is claimed to be the GREATEST Russian writer of all time (naturally along with Pushkin and Leo Tolstoi) - you can actually compare him to Shakespeare's legacy in England/UK. But I agree that's a very weak point in schools nowadays: In Austria, where I went to school we ONLY learned about German and Austrian writers and only a very little bit about the most important English and French writers (and NOTHING about great Russian literature); so I had to explore all the other writers on my own...

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: Someone can help me please:)? English/British people? What should I have read in my life in the fields of English literature? (Of course I know of Shakespeare, Dickens, Byron, Orwell, Jane Austen, but I'd like to find out more:)) Any help will be MUCH appreciated:) Thank you!!

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: Someone can help me please:)? English/British people? What should I have read in my life in the fields of English literature? (Of course I know of Shakespeare, Dickens, Byron, Orwell, Jane Austen, but I'd like to find out more:)) Any help will be MUCH appreciated:) Thank you!!

You need to couple your British literature with American. BRITISH: Dylan Thomas (his prose/play work: Under Milkwood, Portrait Of The Artist As A Young Dog, or just find a collection of his stories. They feature all of them). James Joyce (start with Dubliners, move to Portait Of The Artist As A Young Man (you CAN read Stephen Hero first, but it's not necessary), THEN tackle Ulysses. Finnegan's Wake requires a great deal of massochism and experience in the English language) Douglas Adams (for some modern satire; all the Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy books, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, The Long Dark Teatime Of The Soul) AMERICAN: William Faulkner (short stories, As I Lay Dying, and basically anything you like) Jack Kerouac (On The Road, Subterraneans, Lonesome Traveler) Ken Kesey (One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, but Sometimes A Great Notion is waaaay better) Aldous Huxley (Brave New World, Eyeless In Gaza) John Steinbeck (East Of Eden, The Grapes Of Wrath, Of Mice And Men are the 'standard works', but I strenuously suggest Cannery Row + Sweet Thursday too!) This is by no means an exhaustive list. Oh, and don't start with Joyce. Leave him for later, or you'll never read English again. Same goes for Faulkner. They're not easy.

Sonia Doris wrote: My all-time fav is Master and Margarita by Bulgakov. And coming after it are (in no particular order) -Haruki Murakami: just about anything -Ernest Hemingway: For Whom the Bell Tolls -George Orwell: 1984, Animal Farm -Fiodor Dostoevski: Crime and Punishment -Albert Camus: The Stranger -Ray Bradbury: Fahrenheit 451 -Apuleius: Metamorphoses -Kafka's Metamorphosis uff... etc and etc :)) some Romanian guys you probably haven't heard of: -Radu Pavel Gheo: Fairia -Liviu Rebreanu: Adam and Eve -Mircea Eliade: La Tiganci (At the Gipsies) -Mihai Eminescu: Sarmanul Dionis (Poor Dionis) etc again :)) and a bunch of theoretical stuff of any kind (not literary theory... noooooo!!!)

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: Someone can help me please:)? English/British people? What should I have read in my life in the fields of English literature? (Of course I know of Shakespeare, Dickens, Byron, Orwell, Jane Austen, but I'd like to find out more:)) Any help will be MUCH appreciated:) Thank you!!

joxerthemighty wrote:

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote: Someone can help me please:)? English/British people? What should I have read in my life in the fields of English literature? (Of course I know of Shakespeare, Dickens, Byron, Orwell, Jane Austen, but I'd like to find out more:)) Any help will be MUCH appreciated:) Thank you!!

ive had a word with a few friends and they suggest ian mckewan and pat barker and enid blyton to help you start off.hope this helps. jon.

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote:

Sonia Doris wrote: My all-time fav is Master and Margarita by Bulgakov. And coming after it are (in no particular order) -Haruki Murakami: just about anything -Ernest Hemingway: For Whom the Bell Tolls -George Orwell: 1984, Animal Farm -Fiodor Dostoevski: Crime and Punishment -Albert Camus: The Stranger -Ray Bradbury: Fahrenheit 451 -Apuleius: Metamorphoses -Kafka's Metamorphosis uff... etc and etc :)) some Romanian guys you probably haven't heard of: -Radu Pavel Gheo: Fairia -Liviu Rebreanu: Adam and Eve -Mircea Eliade: La Tiganci (At the Gipsies) -Mihai Eminescu: Sarmanul Dionis (Poor Dionis) etc again :)) and a bunch of theoretical stuff of any kind (not literary theory... noooooo!!!)

You said in another topic that you are interested in Tarot and such like; have you heard of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky - she has written some famous books dealing wiht theosophy

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

<b><font color=B22222>daria wrote:

Sonia Doris wrote: My all-time fav is Master and Margarita by Bulgakov. And coming after it are (in no particular order) -Haruki Murakami: just about anything -Ernest Hemingway: For Whom the Bell Tolls -George Orwell: 1984, Animal Farm -Fiodor Dostoevski: Crime and Punishment -Albert Camus: The Stranger -Ray Bradbury: Fahrenheit 451 -Apuleius: Metamorphoses -Kafka's Metamorphosis uff... etc and etc :)) some Romanian guys you probably haven't heard of: -Radu Pavel Gheo: Fairia -Liviu Rebreanu: Adam and Eve -Mircea Eliade: La Tiganci (At the Gipsies) -Mihai Eminescu: Sarmanul Dionis (Poor Dionis) etc again :)) and a bunch of theoretical stuff of any kind (not literary theory... noooooo!!!)

You said in another topic that you are interested in Tarot and such like; have you heard of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky - she has written some famous books dealing wiht theosophy

Sorry to say it, but Madame Blavatski drowns in her own ethereal mumblings...she loses touch with reality by trying to make it all sound as mystical as is humanly possible. It's the same 'mistake' Crowley makes, in a way, but Crowley still has a lot more content hidden inbetween the crap.