QueenZone discussion #929319
Drugs
| Marcos Napier 12.12.2006 20:00 |
Isn't it a bit odd that Queen (being a typical 70's band in the partying sense) has never been linked to "drug scandals"? Or was the drug police too busy busting Keith Richards in the 70's? BTW I heard John is in rehab now. He's addicted to daffodils. |
| Smitty 12.12.2006 22:28 |
Marcos Napier wrote: Isn't it a bit odd that Queen (being a typical 70's band in the partying sense) has never been linked to "drug scandals"?Oh yes they have! Little known to others everyone in the band has been taken in at least 6 times for massive drug possesion charges. THAT's the reason they went through so many bass players. All of them kept getting arrested and sent to jail. |
| ITSM 12.12.2006 22:41 |
...and there are rumors about dwarfs with cocaine-plates on their heads on the Jazz release-party in 1977... (quite a view). But Brian May says he never done anything... |
| ITSM 13.12.2006 02:50 |
I meant it 1978, of course... |
| The Fairy King 13.12.2006 03:08 |
of course... |
| Markman38 13.12.2006 04:52 |
I know from a very reliable source that there was (off course) drugs in Queen. We all know the story why there wasn't an official release of Micheal Jackson and Freddie Mercury of State of Shock. Because Micheal found out that Freddie used cocaine during recording sessions and Micheal didn't want have anything to do with drugs. I think that both Roger and Freddie did used cocaine in their lives. John is unknown but he surely could use some before playing if he was that nervous LOL. in case of Brian I do believe that he never used, it's the same with Roger Daltrey who also never used. |
| thomasquinn 32989 13.12.2006 08:22 |
ITSM wrote: ...and there are rumors about dwarfs with cocaine-plates on their heads on the Jazz release-party in 1977... (quite a view). But Brian May says he never done anything...Roger, however... |
| Jazz 78 13.12.2006 08:42 |
Personally I think they were more drinkers than big drug users. It was most likely "dabbled" with in the 70's and of course Freddie's usage in the 80's seemed to be more of a recreational thing than a habit or addiction. They seemed to be far more intelligent than their peers at the time to get hooked on the stuff. Never heard of any of the band in a rehab or detox. They always came across as total pros in their music and their shows and being the bosses of their own business that was Queen. Besides, Queen were leadrs... not followers. They never took after Keith Richards, Brian Jones, John Bonham etc. They were smart enough not to do anything in excess. |
| Mr.Jingles 13.12.2006 09:12 |
Everybody knows that Freddie loved Colombian pixie dust. Apparently he never got as addicted as once Elton John or Eric Clapton were, but he always fancied a good snort. Roger claims that he once tried pot, but didn't like it. Aside from Freddie he's the once who was the most likely to have tried different things. Brian, Roger and John were more into the booze. Brian once commented on getting drunk with Aerosmith's Joe Perry back in the old days. Roger once got drunk while attending a Formula 1 race; and John himself was arrested for driving drunk, an incident which inspired the song 'Don't Lose Your Head'. |
| Bob-Plant 13.12.2006 09:16 |
Other than the odd story or myth, I would venture that Brian may have tried pot, but I can't imagine him having done that more than once or twice and of course he never was much of a drinker after his legendary drinking story with Joe Perry from Aerosmith. Freddie, well known to abhor drugs in the early day's, then of course had a change of heart at some point in time and enjoyed cocaine for a period. I can't see John doing more than probably smoking a little pot way back when. Roger, vocal about not liking pot, would seem to have the type of personality that would make him more likely to indulge in other favors. All of this, of course, is speculation and serves no real point. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go shoot up some...oh wait, am I still typing? |
| deleted user 13.12.2006 11:39 |
Nah, Freddie was well-known for the odd line of coke. Roger... probably had a try, Brian maybe has had one snort in his whole life and as for John I don't reckon he's touched anything more dangerous than alcohol or nicotine. However at those parties that Queen hosted you could find anything. It was a case of every single person there having a good time and if ensuring that cocaine and anything else was in good supply meant that everyone had a good time then so be it. |
| Raf 13.12.2006 13:15 |
Jazz 78 wrote: (...) They were smart enough not to do anything in excess.Freddie... A new lover every night... AIDS...? |
| Micrówave 13.12.2006 13:36 |
<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote: John I don't reckon he's touched anything more dangerous than alcohol or nicotine.... even though every picture of him in the 70s has that same "I'm so very high" stare. And explain the afro. Maybe he lost a bet with Freddie? |
| Wolfmother 13.12.2006 14:02 |
There is a story that Freddie and Elton John wouldd do lines of coke 'as thick and as long as your grandmother's arm' before Freddie would go on tour. |
| onevsion 13.12.2006 18:11 |
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| onevsion 13.12.2006 18:13 |
: I know from a very reliable source that there was (off course) drugs in Queen. We all know the story why there wasn't an official release of Micheal Jackson and Freddie Mercury of State of Shock. Because Micheal found out that Freddie used cocaine during recording sessions and Micheal didn't want have anything to do with drugs. I think that both Roger and Freddie did used cocaine in their lives. John is unknown but he surely could use some before playing if he was that nervous LOL. in case of Brian I do believe that he never used, it's the same with Roger Daltrey who also never used.Always find posts like this a bit annoying. I mean, you are suggesting that you have a very reliable source (a contact person i guess) but you don't mention annything new. All you did was summing up the facts we all knew already (and braggin' bout the "fact" that you have a reliable contact close to queen. |
| Marcos Napier 13.12.2006 19:04 |
And there's also the hilarious "tea" story found in "As It Began"... |
| Winter Land Man 13.12.2006 20:11 |
<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote: Nah, Freddie was well-known for the odd line of coke. Roger... probably had a try, Brian maybe has had one snort in his whole life and as for John I don't reckon he's touched anything more dangerous than alcohol or nicotine. However at those parties that Queen hosted you could find anything. It was a case of every single person there having a good time and if ensuring that cocaine and anything else was in good supply meant that everyone had a good time then so be it.Odd coke line? I've read he'd do it a few times a day. And then Peter Freestone did the drug shopping for him. A pill for that, some potions for this. |
| rocks. 13.12.2006 20:32 |
.*.Messenger Of Leah.*. wrote:Somebody needs to superglue duct tape to that mans mouth...he...yah, just to much out of him. I liked his book and all but in interviews its just like shut UP!!!<font color=BrianJM>RollingZepBowieQueen wrote: Nah, Freddie was well-known for the odd line of coke. Roger... probably had a try, Brian maybe has had one snort in his whole life and as for John I don't reckon he's touched anything more dangerous than alcohol or nicotine. However at those parties that Queen hosted you could find anything. It was a case of every single person there having a good time and if ensuring that cocaine and anything else was in good supply meant that everyone had a good time then so be it.Odd coke line? I've read he'd do it a few times a day. And then Peter Freestone did the drug shopping for him. A pill for that, some potions for this. |
| Markman38 14.12.2006 03:15 |
@Ducksoup I had .....back in the old days, but I won't give you the name because I would harm the trust the person give to me by telling stories, and that person is still a very well known person in the queen circle. But why the negative attitude?You want to know about the lines of boys standing next to Freddies hotel rooms after a concert wich he had, with help of coke? You want to know about the big wallet John took with him after a concert and went to a club with working girls and returned with an empty wallet. You want the stories about Freddie working on Made in Heaven, barely stand on his feet? If you see all my posts(replies) you noticed that I'm very quiet and introspective because I hear many stories here that are really shit. If I tell a story that we allready know (the famous stories like you said) I only do that because there are plenty of odd quuestions about songs that are official or other questions about very well known facts. But every day there are new Queen fans here and for them the stories are new. Don't react so negative |
| onevsion 14.12.2006 09:17 |
Markman38 wrote: @Ducksoup I had .....back in the old days, but I won't give you the name because I would harm the trust the person give to me by telling stories, and that person is still a very well known person in the queen circle. But why the negative attitude?You want to know about the lines of boys standing next to Freddies hotel rooms after a concert wich he had, with help of coke? You want to know about the big wallet John took with him after a concert and went to a club with working girls and returned with an empty wallet. You want the stories about Freddie working on Made in Heaven, barely stand on his feet? If you see all my posts(replies) you noticed that I'm very quiet and introspective because I hear many stories here that are really shit. If I tell a story that we allready know (the famous stories like you said) I only do that because there are plenty of odd quuestions about songs that are official or other questions about very well known facts. But every day there are new Queen fans here and for them the stories are new. Don't react so negativePartly, I understand your point of view: Telling new fans stories wich ,to them, are new. That's a good thing. The thing I don't understand is that it seems to me that some people within the Queen fan community always feel the need to brag about the contacts, rare recordings, huge collection or whatever they have. In my honest opinion you are doing this again by saying: "You want to know about the lines of boys standing next to Freddies hotel rooms after a concert wich he had, with help of coke? You want to know about the big wallet John took with him after a concert and went to a club with working girls and returned with an empty wallet. You want the stories about Freddie working on Made in Heaven, barely stand on his feet?" I mean: what's your point? Like you said: "but I won't give you the name because I would harm the trust the person give to me by telling stories, and that person is still a very well known person in the queen circle" If you really do so, why feel the need to talk about it and share some info the person gave you on Queenzone then? I don't get it. |
| pow wow 14.12.2006 09:42 |
Ducksoup wrote:"YSM told me the other day that................"Markman38 wrote: @Ducksoup I had .....back in the old days, but I won't give you the name because I would harm the trust the person give to me by telling stories, and that person is still a very well known person in the queen circle. But why the negative attitude?You want to know about the lines of boys standing next to Freddies hotel rooms after a concert wich he had, with help of coke? You want to know about the big wallet John took with him after a concert and went to a club with working girls and returned with an empty wallet. You want the stories about Freddie working on Made in Heaven, barely stand on his feet? If you see all my posts(replies) you noticed that I'm very quiet and introspective because I hear many stories here that are really shit. If I tell a story that we allready know (the famous stories like you said) I only do that because there are plenty of odd quuestions about songs that are official or other questions about very well known facts. But every day there are new Queen fans here and for them the stories are new. Don't react so negativePartly, I understand your point of view: Telling new fans stories wich ,to them, are new. That's a good thing. The thing I don't understand is that it seems to me that some people within the Queen fan community always feel the need to brag about the contacts, rare recordings, huge collection or whatever they have. In my honest opinion you are doing this again by saying: "You want to know about the lines of boys standing next to Freddies hotel rooms after a concert wich he had, with help of coke? You want to know about the big wallet John took with him after a concert and went to a club with working girls and returned with an empty wallet. You want the stories about Freddie working on Made in Heaven, barely stand on his feet?" I mean: what's your point? Like you said: "but I won't give you the name because I would harm the trust the person give to me by telling stories, and that person is still a very well known person in the queen circle" If you really do so, why feel the need to talk about it and share some info the person gave you on Queenzone then? I don't get it. "I heard from the guy that works in McDonalds that............." "A guy from Queens inner sanctum told me that.........." Which one has the most credence? I think Markman38 is just adding a bit of weight to his stories that's all. OK maybe his namedropping (or not) was a bit over emphasized but I wouldnt boil him in oil for that. |
| onevsion 14.12.2006 10:00 |
I guess you are right... |
| Micrówave 14.12.2006 18:54 |
Markman38 wrote: We all know the story why there wasn't an official release of Micheal Jackson and Freddie Mercury of State of Shock. Because Micheal found out that Freddie used cocaine during recording sessions and Micheal didn't want have anything to do with drugs. Markman38 wrote: You want to know about the lines of boys standing next to Freddies hotel rooms after a concert wich he had, with help of coke?So if Freddie had brought his other habit with him, I'd be listening to STATE OF SHOCK right now? Wow. |
| blerp 14.12.2006 23:38 |
turn on, tune in, drop out |
| Markman38 15.12.2006 03:43 |
@ Ducksoup I understand your point of view, it is really annoying of people to say I heard from a close contact etc etc . Anyone can say that and at the same time remain in silence over your contact is an easy escape. The point is that I know for myself that the one that told me is/was reliable and close enough to the band to really know. But to mention it souds a tommuch of getting glance over myself by saying see how close I was. Well that was not my meaning of pointing out in this case. The reason why I told the story about my contact was that drugs is something you can't tell fairytales about. There is always rumour and denying about drugs use because nobody fancy this habbit. Most of the times reading this board I think that a lot of the fans have this ideal picture of the queen members so when it comes to drugs I just want to point out that they where not so ideal after all and not by just saying that, that could just be an innuendo, but by pointing out that it was a fact of history. The other reaction was a little bit childish because I thought somebody was questining my credibility, while I know I'm telling the truth, but hey you can't know. So I appologise |
| AmeriQueen 15.12.2006 07:09 |
Well Freddie had a reputation for being a coc-fiend, but other than that, they are a relatively clean rock band. They held their own when it came to alcohol. But yes, I am surprised that drugs didn't inspire them more. |
| Markman38 16.12.2006 11:54 |
Hi Danny, it is quiet the opposition. I'm a musician too and yes I use drugs too (well not all the time off course I;m not a addict) But using coke gives you the feeling of much more confidence and strenght, your power level is up and you feel king of the world, This feeling lasts foor abou half an hour till an hour (if you had an impressive line)But after that you fall into the trap door and you need more. you alkways know the things you are doing so you can use coke and play. John Entwistle was also a famous coke user to play with the courage he had on stage....chemical courage. But telling you this I am the fisrt one to tell to al people don't use drugs don't do it, if you start it's a hell of way to quit it. |
| onevsion 16.12.2006 13:12 |
double post |
| onevsion 16.12.2006 13:14 |
Ducksoup wrote:Markman38 wrote: @ Ducksoup So I appologiseNo need to appologise man... it's all good! |
| Hooligan's Holiday 17.12.2006 15:07 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Everybody knows that Freddie loved Colombian pixie dust. Apparently he never got as addicted as once Elton John or Eric Clapton were, but he always fancied a good snort. Roger claims that he once tried pot, but didn't like it. Aside from Freddie he's the once who was the most likely to have tried different things. Brian, Roger and John were more into the booze. Brian once commented on getting drunk with Aerosmith's Joe Perry back in the old days. Roger once got drunk while attending a Formula 1 race; and John himself was arrested for driving drunk, an incident which inspired the song 'Don't Lose Your Head'.Yes, I know it's off-topic, but... OMFG I <3 JOE PERRY. Sorry... ^^; |
| thomasquinn 32989 17.12.2006 16:24 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Everybody knows that Freddie loved Colombian pixie dust. Apparently he never got as addicted as once Elton John or Eric Clapton were, but he always fancied a good snort.It was HEROIN Clapton was addicted to. Cocaine does not create any physical addiction, only mental (like marijuana, or even sex). Elton John mainly (though not exclusively; there was certainly a lot of coke involved) had an alcohol-addiction. |
| ploughman 17.12.2006 18:38 |
Hard to say anything on this. Since none of us have been there. But I personally think that if Brian says he never did any, I bet he never did. There is a myth around that if you are in rock-biz you obviously have to do drugs. Well I'm...and I'm not doing any, Never did, never tried. Also Steve Harris from Iron Maiden always says he never even smoked a cigarette. I mean, concerning Queen, they are different than you average rock-band anyways. All of them are educated (maybe a bit more sophisticated) and got famous not SO VERY young. So I guess, they might very well have come off from the turmoil, without using massive amount, if any. Brian sometime stated that Freddies cocaine abuse was also exxagerated. I guess Freddie was more like a party user. Brian said, he never did, and somehow you have to believe this guys. Roger's pot reference is well-known. Might aswell be trough, pot doesn't fit for everybody...like red wine etc. But as he had a reputetion of being a real party-animal, it's hard to believe he never did coke...we are talking about 80's folks. But again....if he says he didn't, again and again, it's kind of stupid not to believe. John is a mystery. But one things is easy to see. If you watch any interviews from past or present, you can notice they are not drug-abusers. They act perfectly all right and talk clearly. Make a comparison to Keith Richards.... well that was of course an ultimate axample. |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 17.12.2006 22:56 |
keith and ozzy obviously took things to the extreme.im also in a band and partake in the lifestyle,but its knowing when to do things and when not to.i tend to only do it if its at a party and not just for the sake of it.i imagine freddie was the same,{no proof mind}but his parties tended to last longer than the ones i go to. |
| braids 20.01.2007 08:40 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:found this board while searching for something and registered just so i can reply to your post( it irritates me so much:))Mr.Jingles wrote: Everybody knows that Freddie loved Colombian pixie dust. Apparently he never got as addicted as once Elton John or Eric Clapton were, but he always fancied a good snort.It was HEROIN Clapton was addicted to. Cocaine does not create any physical addiction, only mental (like marijuana, or even sex). Elton John mainly (though not exclusively; there was certainly a lot of coke involved) had an alcohol-addiction. cocaine does create physical addiction,and it creater a fucking severe one.cocaine withdrawal is one of the worst in the world for it last for months while stuff like heroin leaves you clean in a week.you can't compare the opiate(heroin) drived withdrawal and stimulant(cocaine) drived withdrawal for they are opposite in effect exepct both leave you with massively ruined dopamine pathways(cocaine being probably like 5 times more potent in inducing atrophy of your dopamine neurons and leaving you feeling like a poor fuck). you don't understand the basic principles of CNS homeostasis so i advise you to get some education on the subject before writing something you heared from idiots trying to ratinalize their cocaine habit influenzed by science on cocaine 50 years old (now abolished,after it was proved that cocaine is one of the MOST addicting drugs) |