| deleted user 17.11.2006 23:25 |
Dear Queenzoners, I always knew, yet for some reason never took interest, in the fact that Queen had some semi and sometimes very religious songs throughout their early career (1973-1975). Their debut album "Queen" is the perfect example. For example: "Now listen all you people Put out the good and keep the bad Don't believe all you read in the Bible You sinners get in line Saints you leave far behind Very soon you're gonna be his disciple Don't listen to what mama says Not a word not a word mama says Or else you'll find yourself being the rival The great Lord before He died Knelt sinners by his side And said you're gonna realise tomorrow" -Great King Rat (Freddie Mercury) Another good example would be the song Liar. Right when Freddie comes in to sing he says: "I have sinned dear Father, Father I have sinned Try and help me Father Won't you let me in? Liar" ETC Obviously, another good example would be Freddie's song Jesus. I don't think I need to explain that one, and if I do, you better start reading the Bible! lol I could go on and on about the influences of religion I found on Queen's debut album and other songs. As I said, you'll mainly find this throughout their early career (whether or not the band took their lyrics seriously). One thing you should take note of is that most the songs I've found using religious themes were written by Freddie. The song Liar was basically about someone asking for forgiveness because he had sinned. In the opening lines Freddie is confessing to God that he has sinned. To me this reflects the fact that Freddie was accepting the fact that he was a homosexual and was asking for forgiveness. Anyway, I just thought this was interesting and was wondering what all of you think. Thanks for taking notice and take care. Steve |
| john bodega 18.11.2006 01:41 |
Didn't read most of yer post because I'm in hurry, but : Yeah, I think they understood the value of religion as mere storytelling as opposed to a way of life. You can tell some very interesting tales when you put a God-bent on it. |
| Serry... 18.11.2006 02:00 |
You must find and read book by Mariam Ahundova. |
| icefire 18.11.2006 03:38 |
you know this morning before i read your topic i had thougt about the same thing!! i find all those lyrics really interesting..prophet's song is one of my favourites! |
| unknown 18.11.2006 04:22 |
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| Serry... 18.11.2006 05:51 |
<b><font color=B22222>daria k. wrote: I read the whole book in the original language and I think that her standpoint is too fanatical - though there is a lot of interesting information about Christian or Zoroastrian symbolism which may interest the reader - independent from its connection with Queen songs.I said the same once and they banned me from all Russian Queen forums, her book is TOO MUCH popular here. |
| icefire 18.11.2006 05:58 |
so the book is not about queen..it is about religion isn't it? |
| Serry... 18.11.2006 06:00 |
It's about Freddie - how 'gay mafia' killed him (it's not a joke!), how religious he was, how many religious anthems he wrote, Saint Frederick Bulsara etc. |
| icefire 18.11.2006 06:06 |
she must be a very wise woman with a good imagination i think. did she write how exactly gay mafia killed him? |
| Serry... 18.11.2006 06:09 |
Yes, he's dead NOT BECAUSE of AIDS, because Freddie never was gay nor bisexual (gay mafia labeled him as gay)! And then gay mafia (Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton + Gordon Atkinson as fans of the book told me) killed Freddie, it was virus infection, cancer, but not AIDS. And everything what Freddie sung, done, wore was full of hidden religious signs... |
| icefire 18.11.2006 06:31 |
how i hate all those freddie's friends!! |
| john bodega 18.11.2006 10:37 |
AIDS didn't kill Freddie Mercury. Chuck Norris accidentally thought 'kill Freddie Mercury' and it just happened. |
| deleted user 18.11.2006 11:07 |
That book about how the gay mafia killed Freddie is twisted. What was she (the author) smoking? Anyway, very interesting and I shall take notice of the book. What is the books title? P.S. Serry, you met Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton + Gordon Atkinson? |
| unknown 18.11.2006 11:11 |
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| unknown 18.11.2006 11:14 |
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| Serry... 18.11.2006 11:28 |
"Serry, you met Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton + Gordon Atkinson?" No "Really? I regularly visited (when the book just was availible on the site) queen.peoples.ru and I remember that the bigger part of people was very suspicious of Ahundovas book. Has it changed since then?" Yes. Book was released in Russia and since there are not many books about Freddie on Russian language, it became very popular. Book's title is "History of Freddie Mercury", over 450 pages. |
| Dan C. 18.11.2006 11:31 |
Serry... wrote: Yes, he's dead NOT BECAUSE of AIDS, because Freddie never was gay nor bisexual (gay mafia labeled him as gay)! And then gay mafia (Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton + Gordon Atkinson as fans of the book told me) killed Freddie, it was virus infection, cancer, but not AIDS. And everything what Freddie sung, done, wore was full of hidden religious signs...You kids still like your fan fiction? |
| deleted user 18.11.2006 11:53 |
The religious songs came from Freddie. He probably had the most religious upbringing. I know Roger hates religion with a passion and thinks it 'fucks people up' meh, he has a point. |
| unknown 18.11.2006 12:30 |
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| Dan C. 18.11.2006 13:41 |
I know. Fan fiction. |
| deleted user 18.11.2006 21:23 |
Its me again...and I have a question. I had heard at one time that The Prophet's Song contained lyrics that came directly from the Bible or something. Is this true? I'd look it up in the Bible, but I'm too lazy...thanks in advance. Steve |
| Jakobe 18.11.2006 21:47 |
Metal Head wrote: Its me again...and I have a question. I had heard at one time that The Prophet's Song contained lyrics that came directly from the Bible or something. Is this true? I'd look it up in the Bible, but I'm too lazy...thanks in advance. SteveYou could take a look at Genesis chapters 6-9. |
| deleted user 18.11.2006 21:59 |
Thank you very much! I appreciate that... Steve |
| john bodega 18.11.2006 23:31 |
Yes. Be very afraid of the gay mafia. They'll send 5 of their thugs to your house; they'll redecorate your bedroom, groom you, tell you how to cook romantic meals, take you shopping for trendy clothes, and then they'll make you throw a party to test all that you have learned. |
| deleted user 18.11.2006 23:48 |
And they've succeeded! Just look at me, I'm living proof of that! lol |
| Jakobe 19.11.2006 00:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Yes. Be very afraid of the gay mafia. They'll send 5 of their thugs to your house; they'll redecorate your bedroom, groom you, tell you how to cook romantic meals, take you shopping for trendy clothes, and then they'll make you throw a party to test all that you have learned.HAHA...and they'll call themselves...the Fab 5! |
| deleted user 19.11.2006 11:29 |
Jakobe wrote:Ha ha! The fab 5, good times, good times...Zebonka12 wrote: Yes. Be very afraid of the gay mafia. They'll send 5 of their thugs to your house; they'll redecorate your bedroom, groom you, tell you how to cook romantic meals, take you shopping for trendy clothes, and then they'll make you throw a party to test all that you have learned.HAHA...and they'll call themselves...the Fab 5! :) |
| ITSM 19.11.2006 23:17 |
I THINK "The Prophet's Song" is about Noah's Arc. The lyrics has a lot of simmularities. Noah tried to tell the people of the city he lived in that God was mad at them. And that God would make a lot of water come and destroy all life on earth, at least on the dry land. But the people didn't listen to him and called him a madman, because of what he told them and because he built a boat/arc (a big boat) so far from the sea. God gave Noah some time to collect 2 of every kind of animals, one male and one female to have on his arc. "and two by two my human zoo, They'll be running for to come, running for to come out of the rain". After many days, I think it was about 3 years Noah sendt a bird out, and Noah thought that if it didn't came back it would have found dry land, and if it came back that it was still just water everywhere.. But the dove came back with a green leaf. "Fly and find the new green bough, Return like the white dove". I DON'T REMEMBER IT CORRECTLY, SO I'M SORRY IF IT'S NOT 100% CORRECT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE STORY OF NOAH'S ARC... ...Sorry if everybody knew this already...??!!!! and sorry about my poor English. Anyway, I find it strange that Brian May wrote a song like this, now that he is out with his "Bang!" book and everything... |
| FriedChicken 20.11.2006 05:15 |
Serry... wrote: Yes, he's dead NOT BECAUSE of AIDS, because Freddie never was gay nor bisexual (gay mafia labeled him as gay)! And then gay mafia (Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton + Gordon Atkinson as fans of the book told me) killed Freddie, it was virus infection, cancer, but not AIDS. And everything what Freddie sung, done, wore was full of hidden religious signs...cancer is not a virus infection. It's a mutation of the DNA |
| Serry... 20.11.2006 11:44 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: cancer is not a virus infection. It's a mutation of the DNAIn Russian language there's difference between "cancer - virus infection" and "virus infection, cancer". "," means enumeration (?). |
| deleted user 20.11.2006 20:12 |
ITSM wrote: I THINK "The Prophet's Song" is about Noah's Arc. The lyrics has a lot of simmularities. Noah tried to tell the people of the city he lived in that God was mad at them. And that God would make a lot of water come and destroy all life on earth, at least on the dry land. But the people didn't listen to him and called him a madman, because of what he told them and because he built a boat/arc (a big boat) so far from the sea. God gave Noah some time to collect 2 of every kind of animals, one male and one female to have on his arc. "and two by two my human zoo, They'll be running for to come, running for to come out of the rain". After many days, I think it was about 3 years Noah sendt a bird out, and Noah thought that if it didn't came back it would have found dry land, and if it came back that it was still just water everywhere.. But the dove came back with a green leaf. "Fly and find the new green bough, Return like the white dove". I DON'T REMEMBER IT CORRECTLY, SO I'M SORRY IF IT'S NOT 100% CORRECT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE STORY OF NOAH'S ARC... ...Sorry if everybody knew this already...??!!!! and sorry about my poor English. Anyway, I find it strange that Brian May wrote a song like this, now that he is out with his "Bang!" book and everything...Very good point, I never noticed that... |
| redspecial85 20.11.2006 23:43 |
According to what Brian says about the Prophet's Song in the Documentary on the Making of ANATO; the lyric came to him in a dream. So he took it and turned it into a song. On the topic of Queen's religious standpoint; Roger has his clear opinions about it, I don't believe John ever wrote about it either. Brian and Freddie wrote all of the material that would have any religious standpoint at all. I think Freddie's lyrics show confusion, wheras Brian's are warnings and/or cries for help. |