| Mr.Jingles 06.11.2006 12:17 |
Listen to the song 'Siempre Hay Esperanza' from Sade's 1988 album 'Promise'. Then compare it to 'My Baby Loves Me' from 'The Miracle'. |
| Serry... 06.11.2006 12:34 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Listen to the song 'Siempre Hay Esperanza' from Sade's 1988 album 'Promise'. Then compare it to 'My Baby Loves Me' from 'The Miracle'.From "Stronger Than Pride" album you meant probably... Album was released during The Miracle sessions, so... |
| Mr.Jingles 06.11.2006 14:43 |
Thanks for correcting me Serry. 'Promise' was released on 1985, and does not feature 'Siempre Hay Esperanza'. |
| Micrówave 06.11.2006 14:51 |
Apparently they never paid her, because it was right after Stronger Than Pride that she had her Musician Fire Sale. Everybody must go!!! Love Deluxe was pretty crappy and then all was left was a Greatest Hits. Poor Sade. Maybe she could front Queen. |
| Fireplace 06.11.2006 20:30 |
It's funny you should mention that, because I've always thought there is an uncanny similarity between "Smooth Operator" and "March Of The Black Queen". MOTBQ was relased first though, so who ripped off who? |
| john bodega 07.11.2006 00:25 |
The song is so generic, I think both are probably ripped off of something else anyway. What's the word... ersatz? Pastiche? I can't remember. |
| andyhwood485 07.11.2006 02:57 |
Sade!!!!!!!!... no way..... I think you have to go back further in time, have a listen to Young Hearts Run Free by Candi Staton.....Freddie was clearly inspired by this song! |
| RETROLOVE 07.11.2006 04:27 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Listen to the song 'Siempre Hay Esperanza' from Sade's 1988 album 'Promise'. Then compare it to 'My Baby Loves Me' from 'The Miracle'.Ahhh, I love Simpre Hay Esperanza...it was in that Al Pacino movie "Sea of Love"...and I have the stronger than pride CD at home...I'm gonna have to listen to My baby loves me...and judge for myself! |
| RETROLOVE 07.11.2006 04:29 |
¼Microwave wrote: Apparently they never paid her, because it was right after Stronger Than Pride that she had her Musician Fire Sale. Everybody must go!!! Love Deluxe was pretty crappy and then all was left was a Greatest Hits. Poor Sade. Maybe she could front Queen.You entitled to your own thoughts, but Love Deluxe was not a crappy album...it was very classy and beautiful |
| Mr.Jingles 07.11.2006 09:14 |
RETROLOVE<h6>The Black Queen wrote:Personally I think that Sade has never put out a bad album.¼Microwave wrote: Apparently they never paid her, because it was right after Stronger Than Pride that she had her Musician Fire Sale. Everybody must go!!! Love Deluxe was pretty crappy and then all was left was a Greatest Hits. Poor Sade. Maybe she could front Queen.You entitled to your own thoughts, but Love Deluxe was not a crappy album...it was very classy and beautiful Love Deluxe is my least favorite but I still enjoy it. |
| Micrówave 07.11.2006 12:40 |
Stronger than Pride was the 2nd CD I ever bought. I love it. But, like Jingles, it set my sights high, but when Love Deluxe came out, alas I thought it was junk. Sounded like she wrote it exclusively for an FM Jazz station. Hey RETROLOVE? Have you heard George Howard's "No Ordinary Love"? Try to download it and compare to the original on Love Deluxe. Tell me that song severly needed a Rock guitar lead on it. |
| Donna13 07.11.2006 14:24 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The song is so generic, I think both are probably ripped off of something else anyway. What's the word... ersatz? Pastiche? I can't remember.Several times now, Zebonka, I've had to get out my dictionary to look up the precise meanings of your posts. haha. I mean, your vocabulary is slightly better (well, maybe much better - I don't know) than mine. |
| Fireplace 07.11.2006 15:33 |
Donna13 wrote:Don't let ol' Zeb fool you! He's 14 and tries out words he needs to learn in school on this board.Zebonka12 wrote: The song is so generic, I think both are probably ripped off of something else anyway. What's the word... ersatz? Pastiche? I can't remember.Several times now, Zebonka, I've had to get out my dictionary to look up the precise meanings of your posts. haha. I mean, your vocabulary is slightly better (well, maybe much better - I don't know) than mine. I'm still working on an explanation for his rather distinguished music career.. ;-) |
| Donna13 07.11.2006 18:57 |
Ha! |
| Deacon Fan 07.11.2006 19:57 |
I always liked Sade. The perfect combo of class & sexiness :) |
| RETROLOVE 07.11.2006 23:57 |
¼Microwave wrote: Stronger than Pride was the 2nd CD I ever bought. I love it. But, like Jingles, it set my sights high, but when Love Deluxe came out, alas I thought it was junk. Sounded like she wrote it exclusively for an FM Jazz station. Hey RETROLOVE? Have you heard George Howard's "No Ordinary Love"? Try to download it and compare to the original on Love Deluxe. Tell me that song severly needed a Rock guitar lead on it.I'll have to download that and see...thank you kindly :) |
| RETROLOVE 08.11.2006 00:05 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Diamond Life is probably my favorite CD by Sade.RETROLOVE<h6>The Black Queen wrote:Personally I think that Sade has never put out a bad album. Love Deluxe is my least favorite but I still enjoy it.¼Microwave wrote: Apparently they never paid her, because it was right after Stronger Than Pride that she had her Musician Fire Sale. Everybody must go!!! Love Deluxe was pretty crappy and then all was left was a Greatest Hits. Poor Sade. Maybe she could front Queen.You entitled to your own thoughts, but Love Deluxe was not a crappy album...it was very classy and beautiful Did you like Lover's Rock album at all Mr. Jingles? I'll admit they lost me on that one :( but I do like the title track and the 'King of Sorrow' song, other than that... |
| Donna13 08.11.2006 07:05 |
I've always wondered how anyone can be sure that what they have just composed is original. If a tune pops into a person's head, how do they know it is not something they heard before? |
| Bobby_brown 08.11.2006 11:40 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Listen to the song 'Siempre Hay Esperanza' from Sade's 1988 album 'Promise'. Then compare it to 'My Baby Loves Me' from 'The Miracle'.They are indeed very similar. I would like to hear Vanilla Ice guiving an opinion about this! ; ) |
| Mr.Jingles 08.11.2006 12:15 |
RETROLOVE<h6>The Black Queen wrote:It's hard to me to pick a favorite between 'Diamond Life', 'Promise', and 'Stronger Than Pride'... but if given a single choice I'd pick 'Stronger Than Pride'.Mr.Jingles wrote:Diamond Life is probably my favorite CD by Sade. Did you like Lover's Rock album at all Mr. Jingles? I'll admit they lost me on that one :( but I do like the title track and the 'King of Sorrow' song, other than that...RETROLOVE<h6>The Black Queen wrote:Personally I think that Sade has never put out a bad album. Love Deluxe is my least favorite but I still enjoy it.¼Microwave wrote: Apparently they never paid her, because it was right after Stronger Than Pride that she had her Musician Fire Sale. Everybody must go!!! Love Deluxe was pretty crappy and then all was left was a Greatest Hits. Poor Sade. Maybe she could front Queen.You entitled to your own thoughts, but Love Deluxe was not a crappy album...it was very classy and beautiful I still like 'Love Deluxe' but as I said it's my least favorite. 'Lover's Rock' dissapointed me the first time I listened to it. I guess I expected something that sounded like her first 3 albums. Eventually it grew on me, and I appreciated the true beauty of it despite being a different album. Speaking of Sade, I just have to mention that from many years I pronounced Sade as (Seh-id). Then my girlfriend pointed out to me that it was in fact (Sha-deh). |
| Micrówave 08.11.2006 12:52 |
Actually she pronounces it with an "R" sound mixed in, as "Shar-day". But yes, I called her "Sayde" for quite a while. She did a promo for a radio station that I worked at when Love Deluxe came out and was pretty down to earth. But it was the band that really impressed me. |
| Donna13 08.11.2006 15:09 |
¼Microwave wrote: Actually she pronounces it with an "R" sound mixed in, as "Shar-day". But yes, I called her "Sayde" for quite a while. She did a promo for a radio station that I worked at when Love Deluxe came out and was pretty down to earth. But it was the band that really impressed me.That's cool that you got to meet her - and her band. |
| RETROLOVE 09.11.2006 03:40 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Yeah, when I was little I use to say it wrong too...lol :)RETROLOVE<h6>The Black Queen wrote:It's hard to me to pick a favorite between 'Diamond Life', 'Promise', and 'Stronger Than Pride'... but if given a single choice I'd pick 'Stronger Than Pride'. I still like 'Love Deluxe' but as I said it's my least favorite. 'Lover's Rock' dissapointed me the first time I listened to it. I guess I expected something that sounded like her first 3 albums. Eventually it grew on me, and I appreciated the true beauty of it despite being a different album. Speaking of Sade, I just have to mention that from many years I pronounced Sade as (Seh-id). Then my girlfriend pointed out to me that it was in fact (Sha-deh).Mr.Jingles wrote:Diamond Life is probably my favorite CD by Sade. Did you like Lover's Rock album at all Mr. Jingles? I'll admit they lost me on that one :( but I do like the title track and the 'King of Sorrow' song, other than that...RETROLOVE<h6>The Black Queen wrote:Personally I think that Sade has never put out a bad album. Love Deluxe is my least favorite but I still enjoy it.¼Microwave wrote: Apparently they never paid her, because it was right after Stronger Than Pride that she had her Musician Fire Sale. Everybody must go!!! Love Deluxe was pretty crappy and then all was left was a Greatest Hits. Poor Sade. Maybe she could front Queen.You entitled to your own thoughts, but Love Deluxe was not a crappy album...it was very classy and beautiful She/they has a lot of unreleased singles that I'm trying to look for, but I cant find them sadly :(, not official B-sides, but just unreleased singles...shit, speaking of that, I'm still waiting for Queen to release some of their unreleased singles from way back...lol :) |
| Rick 09.11.2006 04:17 |
"I nominate Sade" The Royle Family. Brilliant British humour. |
| mircal 10.11.2006 02:46 |
anyway..... i just heard this song..... to much allike..... can someone confirm what came out first???? |
| Mr.Jingles 10.11.2006 09:17 |
'Siempre Hay Esperanza' came out on 1988 on the album 'Stronger Than Pride'. 'My Baby Does Me' is from 1989 when released on 'The Miracle'. |
| Micrówave 10.11.2006 17:34 |
But she had this song and what ended up being "Paradise" from the previous studio sessions, so Queen had about 3 good years to re-work it. As a side note, the Stonger Than Pride CD should be played at a level even louder than your Queen CDs. There's so much layered percussion throughout, you can hear something new each time. It would be interesting what other songs you guys have recognized similarities to, because this was a good one. |
| mircal 10.11.2006 19:46 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: 'Siempre Hay Esperanza' came out on 1988 on the album 'Stronger Than Pride'. 'My Baby Does Me' is from 1989 when released on 'The Miracle'.cool.... the songs sound so much the same.... couldt it be a rip of or just a fluke??? |
| alibat 17.11.2006 03:42 |
Can anyone help with another miracle related question that's been bugging me for years? Ever since the album came out, I knew 'Rain must Fall' sounded like something else I'd heard before but I've never been able to quite work out what. Some late 70s disco track I think. |
| Jimmy Dean 01.10.2014 17:21 |
Just heard this - wow... i keep waiting for Brian's guitar to enter but all i hear is saxophone. Given the bassline is extremely simple and the song is relatively unfamiliar... both cases Queen or Sade... it's extremely possible that John heard the album (Stronger than Pride) at some point... and weeks or months later, without realizing, started playing it on his bass. |
| katman 01.10.2014 19:07 |
alibat wrote: Can anyone help with another miracle related question that's been bugging me for years? Ever since the album came out, I knew 'Rain must Fall' sounded like something else I'd heard before but I've never been able to quite work out what. Some late 70s disco track I think.It's the Candi Staton track someone mentioned earlier, Young Hearts... I can't understand how it didn't end up in the courts ... daylight robbery :) |
| matt z 01.10.2014 22:17 |
Wow. I got enthused for a second thinking Microwave had come back. Until I realized how old the post was. Old topic too. That MBDM SADE thing comes up in derivative topics too |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.10.2014 07:35 |
matt z wrote: Wow. I got enthused for a second thinking Microwave had come back. Until I realized how old the post was. Old topic too. That MBDM SADE thing comes up in derivative topics tooHe's not coming back, I've still got the key right here...err, I mean: I don't think he'll be back, but what do I know? *walks off into the distance, casually whistling* |
| ITSM 02.10.2014 08:56 |
Someone said here a while ago that Young Hearts Run Free reminds him/her about Rain Must Fall, I agree. |
| dysan 02.10.2014 10:07 |
I even remember 8 years ago I misread this as 'Slade'. |