| mircal 05.11.2006 19:29 |
Is it just me or do nice gys really finish last? When girls say they want a nice guy, they finally get em then the dont want him and end up going to the typicle jerk. Is this just the mentality of the younger gilrs?? Or just the girls in my state?? Does this happen eslewhere in the world? Is nice boring? Are jerks more fun? It it that nice guys wanna wine you and dine you and jerks just wanna thrash you in bed? Where does it lay?? Girls can deny it, guys cant say it dooesnt happen to them? whats the go?? |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 05.11.2006 19:39 |
//Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is.... |
| 7 seas of Rhye 05.11.2006 19:42 |
I don't like jerks. They smell strongly of cabbage. |
| mircal 05.11.2006 19:51 |
mircal wrote: Is it just me or do nice gys really finish last? When girls say they want a nice guy, they finally get em then the dont want him and end up going to the typicle jerk. Is this just the mentality of the younger gilrs?? Or just the girls in my state?? Does this happen eslewhere in the world? Is nice boring? Are jerks more fun? It it that nice guys wanna wine you and dine you and jerks just wanna thrash you in bed? Where does it lay?? Girls can deny it, guys cant say it dooesnt happen to them? whats the go??LOL... please find the correct spelling Is it just me or do nice guys really finish last? When girls say they want a nice guy, they finally get them, for how ever long they choose to be with them, then they break it of with the guy and end up going to the typical jerk. Is this just the mentality of younger girls (16-25) ?? Or just the girls in my state?? Does this happen elsewhere in the world? Is nice boring? Are jerks more fun? Is it that nice guys want to wine you and dine you and jerks just want to thrash you in bed? Where does it lay?? Girls can deny it; guys can’t say it doesn’t happen to them? What’s the go?? |
| mircal 05.11.2006 19:52 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: //Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is....Are you saiyng nice guys are hard to find? |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 05.11.2006 19:56 |
mircal wrote:Maybe I am. And...?<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: //Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is....Are you saiyng nice guys are hard to find? |
| mircal 05.11.2006 20:00 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:and.... and what???mircal wrote:Maybe I am. And...?<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: //Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is....Are you saiyng nice guys are hard to find? |
| blerp 05.11.2006 20:03 |
Sometimes jerk-offs are good at hiding their jerk-offness-ness. So...er...we go for them, then find out how dickheaded they are. Or something. I don't know. I've never gone for a jerk really. Well, sort of. Or they are just really groovy looking and we just like them. But then we find someone cooler. I really don't know, I am just saying, cos I'm...a bit crazy today. |
| deleted user 05.11.2006 20:04 |
I really don't get why all the girls at my school have crushes on jerks. I asked this girl who sits next to me in band why she was going out with this kid named Robbie. He is such a jerk! She says, "because he's hot...duh!" So basically, as long as a guy is hot, a girl will go out with him. Pretty stupid, I know. |
| mircal 05.11.2006 20:11 |
<font color=C71585>Mrs.Freddie Mercury wrote: I really don't get why all the girls at my school have crushes on jerks. I asked this girl who sits next to me in band why she was going out with this kid named Robbie. He is such a jerk! She says, "because he's hot...duh!" So basically, as long as a guy is hot, a girl will go out with him. Pretty stupid, I know.Yeah i hurd that many times in my school.. But i realised that when you leave school the hotness they portrey in school wont be the same when they get older,,, you meet more people and there you have it |
| mircal 05.11.2006 20:12 |
<font color=>LadyMercury wrote: Sometimes jerk-offs are good at hiding their jerk-offness-ness. So...er...we go for them, then find out how dickheaded they are. Or something. I don't know. I've never gone for a jerk really. Well, sort of. Or they are just really groovy looking and we just like them. But then we find someone cooler. I really don't know, I am just saying, cos I'm...a bit crazy today.lol...yeah its a bit like that. but still.. you wouldnt go for nice guy over a jerk would you? |
| blerp 05.11.2006 20:20 |
mircal wrote:But nice guys make me melt! So I would go for a nice guy! haha er<font color=>LadyMercury wrote: Sometimes jerk-offs are good at hiding their jerk-offness-ness. So...er...we go for them, then find out how dickheaded they are. Or something. I don't know. I've never gone for a jerk really. Well, sort of. Or they are just really groovy looking and we just like them. But then we find someone cooler. I really don't know, I am just saying, cos I'm...a bit crazy today.lol...yeah its a bit like that. but still.. you wouldnt go for nice guy over a jerk would you? |
| mircal 05.11.2006 20:32 |
<font color=>LadyMercury wrote:lol... whats your phone number??? LOL...mircal wrote:But nice guys make me melt! So I would go for a nice guy! haha er<font color=>LadyMercury wrote: Sometimes jerk-offs are good at hiding their jerk-offness-ness. So...er...we go for them, then find out how dickheaded they are. Or something. I don't know. I've never gone for a jerk really. Well, sort of. Or they are just really groovy looking and we just like them. But then we find someone cooler. I really don't know, I am just saying, cos I'm...a bit crazy today.lol...yeah its a bit like that. but still.. you wouldnt go for nice guy over a jerk would you? Well, thats one thing a nice guy would be able to appreciate over a jerk,thats how a girl feels, that may be a bit generall but in terms of feelings, its obvious who would be in in tune with there own. |
| blerp 05.11.2006 20:36 |
mircal wrote:Yes. Now email me. XD bahaha<font color=>LadyMercury wrote:lol... whats your phone number??? LOL... Well, thats one thing a nice guy would be able to appreciate over a jerk,thats how a girl feels, that may be a bit generall but in terms of feelings, its obvious who would be in in tune with there own.mircal wrote:But nice guys make me melt! So I would go for a nice guy! haha er<font color=>LadyMercury wrote: Sometimes jerk-offs are good at hiding their jerk-offness-ness. So...er...we go for them, then find out how dickheaded they are. Or something. I don't know. I've never gone for a jerk really. Well, sort of. Or they are just really groovy looking and we just like them. But then we find someone cooler. I really don't know, I am just saying, cos I'm...a bit crazy today.lol...yeah its a bit like that. but still.. you wouldnt go for nice guy over a jerk would you? |
| mircal 05.11.2006 20:39 |
<font color=>LadyMercury wrote:e-mail you??? on what, you aint leave no details girl... your not the player type now are you???mircal wrote:Yes. Now email me. XD bahaha<font color=>LadyMercury wrote:lol... whats your phone number??? LOL... Well, thats one thing a nice guy would be able to appreciate over a jerk,thats how a girl feels, that may be a bit generall but in terms of feelings, its obvious who would be in in tune with there own.mircal wrote:But nice guys make me melt! So I would go for a nice guy! haha er<font color=>LadyMercury wrote: Sometimes jerk-offs are good at hiding their jerk-offness-ness. So...er...we go for them, then find out how dickheaded they are. Or something. I don't know. I've never gone for a jerk really. Well, sort of. Or they are just really groovy looking and we just like them. But then we find someone cooler. I really don't know, I am just saying, cos I'm...a bit crazy today.lol...yeah its a bit like that. but still.. you wouldnt go for nice guy over a jerk would you? |
| blerp 05.11.2006 21:26 |
I am definitely not a player. You're a nice guy, that's all bahaha |
| mircal 05.11.2006 21:27 |
<font color=>LadyMercury wrote: I am definitely not a player.well if you have a heart to melt that would make sense. |
| deleted user 05.11.2006 21:43 |
Girls do not just go for male jerks, just the same as guys to not just go for female jerks. Making this kind of generalization won't help you to understand women, I assure you. All people are different. You have to understand that a lot of women may be insecure, which could lead them to take anyone that comes along (that includes jerks). To a lot of people (I think), it seems hard to find a nice guy or girl because they can come few and far between, unfortunately. I wanted a nice guy and I happen to have one. :-) |
| john bodega 05.11.2006 21:47 |
I can be nice. But continual disappointment is turning me into a jerk. I've been on both sides of the fence, and I'm still not getting anything! |
| magicalfreddiemercury 05.11.2006 22:05 |
I had a friend who dated a jerk. She 'loved' him. He cheated on her at every turn. He was obnoxious and egotistical. But he was definitely eye-candy. Thing is, it wasn't his looks that got and kept her. I don't know the rules for dating a jerk - male or female - but her reason was to come out the winner. It was a game, a challenge. Just think, if he picked her over all the other girls he was screwing around with, that would mean she was something special, yes? I never thought so, but she did. And she went out of her way to be new and exciting for him regardless of how ridiculous and desperate she seemed to everyone else. btw - he dumped her the same as he dumped all the others. And she was devastated, as if she truly believed she had a chance of winning this guy over and changing his ways. Not sure if that answers your question, but that's my experience with women and jerks. |
| mircal 05.11.2006 22:14 |
<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: Girls do not just go for male jerks, just the same as guys to not just go for female jerks. Making this kind of generalization won't help you to understand women, I assure you. All people are different. You have to understand that a lot of women may be insecure, which could lead them to take anyone that comes along (that includes jerks). To a lot of people (I think), it seems hard to find a nice guy or girl because they can come few and far between, unfortunately. I wanted a nice guy and I happen to have one. :-)hhmmm what you are saying is true, but i think you missed the part were i did say this is a tad on the generalisation part... but then again,,, i didnt make up the term "nice guys finsh last",, so this topic has allready been mentioned through out the ages, most girls do go for the jerk-hero-arragant type. Also i did say is this just may state? and younger girls, so i did mention were i am coming from. I am going against what you said, by no means at all. Girls just like that bad boy type. |
| mircal 05.11.2006 22:15 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: I had a friend who dated a jerk. She 'loved' him. He cheated on her at every turn. He was obnoxious and egotistical. But he was definitely eye-candy. Thing is, it wasn't his looks that got and kept her. I don't know the rules for dating a jerk - male or female - but her reason was to come out the winner. It was a game, a challenge. Just think, if he picked her over all the other girls he was screwing around with, that would mean she was something special, yes? I never thought so, but she did. And she went out of her way to be new and exciting for him regardless of how ridiculous and desperate she seemed to everyone else. btw - he dumped her the same as he dumped all the others. And she was devastated, as if she truly believed she had a chance of winning this guy over and changing his ways. Not sure if that answers your question, but that's my experience with women and jerks.There you go,,, say she meets a nice guy now... the nice guy finshed last. |
| user name 05.11.2006 22:25 |
To understand why it seems that girls tend to go for jerks, you must first understand how attraction works. Attraction is not a choice. There is no logical analysis of a mate that occurs before attraction. Have you ever asked yourself, "Should I be attracted to this person?" The answer is no. The first step is, "I am attracted to this person, now what can I do about it?" Now, what qualities of "jerks" could trigger a response of attractiveness from girls? Well, first of all, like you said before, there's appearance. Being "hot" is certainly an advantage, but it will only get you in the door - it won't keep you there. Also, note that physical appearance is not actually a very strong predictor of attraction when it comes to females. As a guy, this can be very difficult to understand. Far more important are the next two characteristics I will discuss. What else is typical of these "jerks"? Confidence. This is one of the most important traits of attraction. Confidence is intrinsic with being a jerk. However, please note that you do not have to be a jerk to be confident. If you have plenty of confidence, it is very easy to come across as arrogant. This is especially true if you are physically attractive (see how this trait is not only unnecessary, but that it can actually hurt you?). This is why it's always important to balance confidence with humor. Humor is the second important characteristic, and it must always go with confidence, as to not appear goofy or strange. But the right dose of humor and confidence is perfect for attraction. From what I said, you can conclude, "Girls like confident, funny guys." Many jerks can easily fit into this category. This is why you see so many girls who are unable to not fall for such jerks. Now, I suppose it will paint a clearer picture if I go over what does not create attraction, or what destroys attraction. Clinginess and neediness are what I like to call attraction-killers. Do you ever see a so-called jerk exhibit such traits? I would bet that it is seldom. A girl may say that she wants a guy who will do anything for her, a guy who needs her, a guy who would die without her. She may even think that this is true. But you can throw a hundred guys like that her way, and she will never be attracted to them for those reasons. This is why some people will tell you, "Don't give her compliments," or, "Don't buy her gifts," if you want her to be attracted to you. This is actually true, although I personally believe that such is quite extreme and rather silly. Such advice can easily be followed by a jerk, but seldom by a "nice guy." All in all, I would like to summarize. GIRLS ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO JERKS BECAUSE THEY ARE JERKS. They are attracted to guys who exude confidence and humor, and who rarely exhibit clinginess. GIRLS DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY NOT LIKE NICE GUYS. They simply do not like meek, nervous, shy, humble, timid, tentative guys who will practically obsess over girls they like, resulting in clingy and needy behavior. I hope this short summary helps out a bit with your understanding of human relationships, attraction, and psychology. |
| mircal 05.11.2006 22:34 |
<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: To understand why it seems that girls tend to go for jerks, you must first understand how attraction works. Attraction is not a choice. There is no logical analysis of a mate that occurs before attraction. Have you ever asked yourself, "Should I be attracted to this person?" The answer is no. The first step is, "I am attracted to this person, now what can I do about it?" Now, what qualities of "jerks" could trigger a response of attractiveness from girls? Well, first of all, like you said before, there's appearance. Being "hot" is certainly an advantage, but it will only get you in the door - it won't keep you there. Also, note that physical appearance is not actually a very strong predictor of attraction when it comes to females. As a guy, this can be very difficult to understand. Far more important are the next two characteristics I will discuss. What else is typical of these "jerks"? Confidence. This is one of the most important traits of attraction. Confidence is intrinsic with being a jerk. However, please note that you do not have to be a jerk to be confident. If you have plenty of confidence, it is very easy to come across as arrogant. This is especially true if you are physically attractive (see how this trait is not only unnecessary, but that it can actually hurt you?). This is why it's always important to balance confidence with humor. Humor is the second important characteristic, and it must always go with confidence, as to not appear goofy or strange. But the right dose of humor and confidence is perfect for attraction. From what I said, you can conclude, "Girls like confident, funny guys." Many jerks can easily fit into this category. This is why you see so many girls who are unable to not fall for such jerks. Now, I suppose it will paint a clearer picture if I go over what does not create attraction, or what destroys attraction. Clinginess and neediness are what I like to call attraction-killers. Do you ever see a so-called jerk exhibit such traits? I would bet that it is seldom. A girl may say that she wants a guy who will do anything for her, a guy who needs her, a guy who would die without her. She may even think that this is true. But you can throw a hundred guys like that her way, and she will never be attracted to them for those reasons. This is why some people will tell you, "Don't give her compliments," or, "Don't buy her gifts," if you want her to be attracted to you. This is actually true, although I personally believe that such is quite extreme and rather silly. Such advice can easily be followed by a jerk, but seldom by a "nice guy." All in all, I would like to summarize. GIRLS ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO JERKS BECAUSE THEY ARE JERKS. They are attracted to guys who exude confidence and humor, and who rarely exhibit clinginess. GIRLS DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY NOT LIKE NICE GUYS. They simply do not like meek, nervous, shy, humble, timid, tentative guys who will practically obsess over girls they like, resulting in clingy and needy behavior. I hope this short summary helps out a bit with your understanding of human relationships, attraction, and psychology.Dude... i think you just nailed it!! Thats awsome! |
| mircal 05.11.2006 22:46 |
Would it also be fare to say that guys who are nice, yet go out, have fun, enjoy them self's give of confidence vibes as well?? yet they are not "super good looking" but have character. |
| deleted user 05.11.2006 23:30 |
I'm having a problem with this girl I really like. I love this girl with all my heart and care for her so much. She's my best friend and I would die for her. However, she's going out with this other guy. The guy's got money, looks, you name it he's got it. Lately I've felt depressed and even angry. I've never fallen for any girl like this before. She's the girl of my dreams. She likes me for me. And I still can't understand why she likes this guy. I mean I know he's got the money and looks but that is no reason for loving him. What is worse is that she's my best friend and I'd hate to jeapordize our friendship over me getting jealous. I feel helpless and out of luck. If any of you Queen fans have advice please tell me. I'm going crazy. I mean, how do go on with being her best friend when I love her more than she really knows. Maybe she really does know...ahhhhhh! Love kills! Scars you from the start. It's just a living pastime ruling your heart line stay for a lifetime. Won't let you go 'cause love won't leave you alone. :( |
| mircal 05.11.2006 23:49 |
Metal Head wrote: I'm having a problem with this girl I really like. I love this girl with all my heart and care for her so much. She's my best friend and I would die for her. However, she's going out with this other guy. The guy's got money, looks, you name it he's got it. Lately I've felt depressed and even angry. I've never fallen for any girl like this before. She's the girl of my dreams. She likes me for me. And I still can't understand why she likes this guy. I mean I know he's got the money and looks but that is no reason for loving him. What is worse is that she's my best friend and I'd hate to jeapordize our friendship over me getting jealous. I feel helpless and out of luck. If any of you Queen fans have advice please tell me. I'm going crazy. I mean, how do go on with being her best friend when I love her more than she really knows. Maybe she really does know...ahhhhhh! Love kills! Scars you from the start. It's just a living pastime ruling your heart line stay for a lifetime. Won't let you go 'cause love won't leave you alone. :(Hey Mate, It is tough one. Why have you fallen for her? How long has she been having this thing with this guy? Is there an age difference? not that it makes a huge difference but it might bring on other asspects. Have you told her how you really feel? |
| user name 06.11.2006 00:17 |
Metal Head wrote: I'm having a problem with this girl I really like. I love this girl with all my heart and care for her so much. She's my best friend and I would die for her. However, she's going out with this other guy. The guy's got money, looks, you name it he's got it. Lately I've felt depressed and even angry. I've never fallen for any girl like this before. She's the girl of my dreams. She likes me for me. And I still can't understand why she likes this guy. I mean I know he's got the money and looks but that is no reason for loving him. What is worse is that she's my best friend and I'd hate to jeapordize our friendship over me getting jealous. I feel helpless and out of luck. If any of you Queen fans have advice please tell me. I'm going crazy. I mean, how do go on with being her best friend when I love her more than she really knows. Maybe she really does know...ahhhhhh! Love kills! Scars you from the start. It's just a living pastime ruling your heart line stay for a lifetime. Won't let you go 'cause love won't leave you alone. :(Just from reading your post, I can tell that you are not confident, and that you are needy/clingy (read my previous post for reference, if you haven't). If you don't want to stay in the "friends" zone, then you better spark attraction. The most common answer to give you is to forget about this girl, because you need to completely revamp your game. However, this advice is really stupid, since you will obviously never listen to it. So what you need to do is to revamp your game on the fly. Step 1: Lose the clingy. Maybe she doesn't know you like her, but odds are that she does. A common thought of a guy is, "If I can only show her how much I love her, she will certainly fall for me!" Isn't it ironic that it's actually the COMPLETE OPPOSITE that is generally true? Indifference is the key, not steadfast pursuit. It's contradictory at first, but in practice, you'll eventually understand that it makes perfect sense. Step 2: Wait. Honestly, if she is your best friend, I do not think that you would want to sabotage her current relationship, because it seems like she is doing very well and that she is satisfied. While you're waiting, maybe you should start dating other people. You might find that she wasn't the right girl for you after all. By dating other people, you send out the signal that you do not NEED her. Even if it's not true, it's still what you want her to perceive. Everything you do should be geared toward improving your confidence and humor, and eliminating your clinginess. Good luck. |
| mircal 06.11.2006 00:33 |
<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:He's right dude... It all makes sense the more you live and breath it. Its hard at first but, you do learn, and soon you start seing things for what they are. Its not a matter of how many times you get knocked down, its how many times you get back up, might not feel like the right quote for you at this point in time, but you realise you get up with more courage in you and more balls.Metal Head wrote: I'm having a problem with this girl I really like. I love this girl with all my heart and care for her so much. She's my best friend and I would die for her. However, she's going out with this other guy. The guy's got money, looks, you name it he's got it. Lately I've felt depressed and even angry. I've never fallen for any girl like this before. She's the girl of my dreams. She likes me for me. And I still can't understand why she likes this guy. I mean I know he's got the money and looks but that is no reason for loving him. What is worse is that she's my best friend and I'd hate to jeapordize our friendship over me getting jealous. I feel helpless and out of luck. If any of you Queen fans have advice please tell me. I'm going crazy. I mean, how do go on with being her best friend when I love her more than she really knows. Maybe she really does know...ahhhhhh! Love kills! Scars you from the start. It's just a living pastime ruling your heart line stay for a lifetime. Won't let you go 'cause love won't leave you alone. :(Just from reading your post, I can tell that you are not confident, and that you are needy/clingy (read my previous post for reference, if you haven't). If you don't want to stay in the "friends" zone, then you better spark attraction. The most common answer to give you is to forget about this girl, because you need to completely revamp your game. However, this advice is really stupid, since you will obviously never listen to it. So what you need to do is to revamp your game on the fly. Step 1: Lose the clingy. Maybe she doesn't know you like her, but odds are that she does. A common thought of a guy is, "If I can only show her how much I love her, she will certainly fall for me!" Isn't it ironic that it's actually the COMPLETE OPPOSITE that is generally true? Indifference is the key, not steadfast pursuit. It's contradictory at first, but in practice, you'll eventually understand that it makes perfect sense. Step 2: Wait. Honestly, if she is your best friend, I do not think that you would want to sabotage her current relationship, because it seems like she is doing very well and that she is satisfied. While you're waiting, maybe you should start dating other people. You might find that she wasn't the right girl for you after all. By dating other people, you send out the signal that you do not NEED her. Even if it's not true, it's still what you want her to perceive. Everything you do should be geared toward improving your confidence and humor, and eliminating your clinginess. Good luck. |
| RETROLOVE 06.11.2006 01:41 |
mircal wrote: Is it just me or do nice gys really finish last? When girls say they want a nice guy, they finally get em then the dont want him and end up going to the typicle jerk. Is this just the mentality of the younger gilrs?? Or just the girls in my state?? Does this happen eslewhere in the world? Is nice boring? Are jerks more fun? It it that nice guys wanna wine you and dine you and jerks just wanna thrash you in bed? Where does it lay?? Girls can deny it, guys cant say it dooesnt happen to them? whats the go??Yes Mircal, I agree... girls are included in that also...being nice dont get you no where these days! |
| Sweetie 06.11.2006 01:54 |
Nice guys are too rare - that's why I'm single. |
| mircal 06.11.2006 02:10 |
<font color=red>Don't Forget Me wrote: Nice guys are too rare - that's why I'm single.is that what you want??? a nice guy? |
| Sweetie 06.11.2006 02:15 |
mircal wrote:yes<font color=red>Don't Forget Me wrote: Nice guys are too rare - that's why I'm single.is that what you want??? a nice guy? |
| I♥The80's 06.11.2006 02:32 |
psch, nowadays it's impossible to find ANY guy! That's why I'M single and probably will be for the rest of my life :( Either that or I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaay too ugly which is the case :( You know, there aren't actually too many nice guys out there, what a pity, eh? Hell, there are BARELY any nice people at all! Even to be friends with! 90% of my friends ended up being bitches. I'm not bragging but I'm way too nice, and many of my friends have taken advantage of that and fucked me over :( But I love most of the people on here :D You guys rock my world :D My best friends are my fellow Queenies :D thanks |
| Raf 06.11.2006 02:36 |
mircal wrote:And, even though I'm a guy, I think she's right.<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:and.... and what???mircal wrote:Maybe I am. And...?<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: //Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is....Are you saiyng nice guys are hard to find? |
| RETROLOVE 06.11.2006 03:55 |
<font color=red>Don't Forget Me wrote: Nice guys are too rare - that's why I'm single.Ditto! |
| Rick 06.11.2006 03:56 |
Turn gay. Problem solved. |
| john bodega 06.11.2006 05:06 |
"Honestly, if she is your best friend, I do not think that you would want to sabotage her current relationship, because it seems like she is doing very well and that she is satisfied. " I just did that! Hahaha... Christ. |
| Serry... 06.11.2006 05:24 |
mircal wrote: Is it just me or do nice gys really finish last? When girls say they want a nice guy, they finally get em then the dont want him and end up going to the typicle jerk. Is this just the mentality of the younger gilrs?? Or just the girls in my state?? Does this happen eslewhere in the world? Is nice boring? Are jerks more fun? It it that nice guys wanna wine you and dine you and jerks just wanna thrash you in bed? Where does it lay?? Girls can deny it, guys cant say it dooesnt happen to them? whats the go??That's right man! That's what they're doing all the time! But you can't win in this war, trust me - I've tried, and I'm a shadow of myself now. |
| The Fairy King 06.11.2006 06:12 |
Nice guy's finish last. Jerks aren't boring. Girls want a certain unpredictability to keep their lives exciting. But after a certain time of having been putting up with some jerk they turn to a nice guy instead. That's why i'm in love with Raf, he's a bad-ass!!! ^.^' |
| deleted user 06.11.2006 06:29 |
mircal wrote:Hey thanks guys. I appreciate your support. I suppose I should move on, it won't be easy. Music Man, you said that I sound like I have no confidence...I had confidence up until just a couple of days ago. I've been fighting a mental battle, something that would come out eventually. You can guess from there. I just can't believe how much I love this girl. Theirs nobody like her in the world. Or so it seems. Anyway, we just met this year and she knew this guy for about the same amount of time I suppose. The thing is, is that she tells me I'm her best friend and 2nd to this guy all the time. I've also told her I loved her, so I know she knows. Anyway, thank you guys. I knew I could count on you.<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:He's right dude... It all makes sense the more you live and breath it. Its hard at first but, you do learn, and soon you start seing things for what they are. Its not a matter of how many times you get knocked down, its how many times you get back up, might not feel like the right quote for you at this point in time, but you realise you get up with more courage in you and more balls.Metal Head wrote: I'm having a problem with this girl I really like. I love this girl with all my heart and care for her so much. She's my best friend and I would die for her. However, she's going out with this other guy. The guy's got money, looks, you name it he's got it. Lately I've felt depressed and even angry. I've never fallen for any girl like this before. She's the girl of my dreams. She likes me for me. And I still can't understand why she likes this guy. I mean I know he's got the money and looks but that is no reason for loving him. What is worse is that she's my best friend and I'd hate to jeapordize our friendship over me getting jealous. I feel helpless and out of luck. If any of you Queen fans have advice please tell me. I'm going crazy. I mean, how do go on with being her best friend when I love her more than she really knows. Maybe she really does know...ahhhhhh! Love kills! Scars you from the start. It's just a living pastime ruling your heart line stay for a lifetime. Won't let you go 'cause love won't leave you alone. :(Just from reading your post, I can tell that you are not confident, and that you are needy/clingy (read my previous post for reference, if you haven't). If you don't want to stay in the "friends" zone, then you better spark attraction. The most common answer to give you is to forget about this girl, because you need to completely revamp your game. However, this advice is really stupid, since you will obviously never listen to it. So what you need to do is to revamp your game on the fly. Step 1: Lose the clingy. Maybe she doesn't know you like her, but odds are that she does. A common thought of a guy is, "If I can only show her how much I love her, she will certainly fall for me!" Isn't it ironic that it's actually the COMPLETE OPPOSITE that is generally true? Indifference is the key, not steadfast pursuit. It's contradictory at first, but in practice, you'll eventually understand that it makes perfect sense. Step 2: Wait. Honestly, if she is your best friend, I do not think that you would want to sabotage her current relationship, because it seems like she is doing very well and that she is satisfied. While you're waiting, maybe you should start dating other people. You might find that she wasn't the right girl for you after all. By dating other people, you send out the signal that you do not NEED her. Even if it's not true, it's still what you want her to perceive. Everything you do should be geared toward improving your confidence and humor, and eliminating your clinginess. Good luck. Steve |
| john bodega 06.11.2006 06:44 |
"I just can't believe how much I love this girl. Theirs nobody like her in the world." Christ dude, have you been ripping pages out of my diary or what?? :P |
| AspiringPhilosophe 06.11.2006 06:52 |
Because we can't find anyone else that isn't taken by some other lucky girl or isn't gay. Love sucks and that's the end of it. Screw it all, I'm going to just bury myself in my research for the rest of my life, easier than dealing with "nice" guys when they all turn out to be selfish, immature babies |
| The Mir@cle 06.11.2006 07:23 |
CMU HistoryGirl wrote: I'm going to just bury myself in my research for the rest of my life, easier than dealing with "nice" guys when they all turn out to be selfish, immature babiesOw come on.. that's not true. Just have faith, and you'll find the right person. I'm sure. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.11.2006 07:26 |
CMU HistoryGirl wrote: Because we can't find anyone else that isn't taken by some other lucky girl or isn't gay. Love sucks and that's the end of it. Screw it all, I'm going to just bury myself in my research for the rest of my life, easier than dealing with "nice" guys when they all turn out to be selfish, immature babiesPlenty of single nice guys out there. Sadly, most of us are perpetually in a state of hurt over having been dumped once too many. |
| Donna13 06.11.2006 08:24 |
I don't have any answers. |
| Rick 06.11.2006 08:27 |
<font color=#CC0066 face="Bradley Hand ITC"> The Mir@cle </font> wrote:Does that sound like a date proposal or what? :-PCMU HistoryGirl wrote: I'm going to just bury myself in my research for the rest of my life, easier than dealing with "nice" guys when they all turn out to be selfish, immature babiesOw come on.. that's not true. Just have faith, and you'll find the right person. I'm sure. |
| ***Marial-B*** 06.11.2006 08:33 |
Mean Rick :P. About the subject, I've been an expert about dating jerks, with 2 on my resume: The first one was my ex-fianceé. We were supposed to marry, but my family made a huge vengance and made my life miserable, but I didn't knew why 'till he cheated on me and realized he treated me like shit in front of my friends, family and everyone who loves me. The second was my last bf. He left me aside at one point and I got very very frustrated. When I saw him I broke up with him 'cuz I didn't want to fall again for a wrong guy. After a couple of weeks he wanted to go out again and he has offered me several times sex "as friends" 'cuz he needs someone to lay down with -.-'. I don't lose hopes to find a right guy and have someone to spend quiality time with :P. |
| john bodega 06.11.2006 08:55 |
The collective wisdom in here is pretty insightful, but I've got one more question : What do you do if you're an ugly cunt? |
| ***Marial-B*** 06.11.2006 09:00 |
Well... good question... |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.11.2006 09:03 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The collective wisdom in here is pretty insightful, but I've got one more question : What do you do if you're an ugly cunt?You pretend you aren't. You maintain a sense of humor and go about your business. Someone will appreciate you. Didn't you ever look at a couple and wonder what one half saw in the other? Then you get to know that person and the answer is right there. |
| ***Marial-B*** 06.11.2006 09:18 |
Yeah, what magicalfreddie says it's right. Besides that, I think that beauty is something you can't measure, 'cuz you can look "ugly" as hell, but the inner beauty comes out and makes you feel pretty ^^ |
| Mr.Jingles 06.11.2006 09:21 |
If a girl picks a bad guy over a nice, gentle, and sensitive guy, that's a sign that this girl was not good in the first place. Let the asshole cheat on her and treat her like a piece of dirt. That's just about what she deserves for being so stupid. |
| eenaweena 06.11.2006 09:25 |
not all girls do that. probably those who can't think straight just do that. |
| Donna13 06.11.2006 09:26 |
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| its_a_hard_life 26994 06.11.2006 09:41 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:You know what your talking about, dude!!!! I agree 100%.Zebonka12 wrote: The collective wisdom in here is pretty insightful, but I've got one more question : What do you do if you're an ugly cunt?You pretend you aren't. You maintain a sense of humor and go about your business. Someone will appreciate you. Didn't you ever look at a couple and wonder what one half saw in the other? Then you get to know that person and the answer is right there. |
| AspiringPhilosophe 06.11.2006 09:52 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Girls aren't so different, Caspar. Please don't tell me you think I just came up with this idea, out of the fun of it. I'm just sick to death of everything, and I'm pretty much at my final straw. I don't know how long I can hold out on hope when it doesn't seem to do anything but disappoint me. At least if you expect to fail, it can only get better from there, and you don't have to deal with the Fall when it doesn't work. Between having been engaged and having to mutually end that relationship and dealing with "nice" guys who are either too scared or too selfish to deal with anything, I'm fed up. Most of us girls are hurting too, maybe we are just alittle better at hiding it, but the pain is still thereCMU HistoryGirl wrote: Because we can't find anyone else that isn't taken by some other lucky girl or isn't gay. Love sucks and that's the end of it. Screw it all, I'm going to just bury myself in my research for the rest of my life, easier than dealing with "nice" guys when they all turn out to be selfish, immature babiesPlenty of single nice guys out there. Sadly, most of us are perpetually in a state of hurt over having been dumped once too many. |
| Poo, again 06.11.2006 10:04 |
Wonder if Freddie preferred jerks... |
| The Fairy King 06.11.2006 10:17 |
<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: Wonder if Freddie preferred jerks...Winnie Kirchberger was a big jerk. |
| Rick 06.11.2006 10:24 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The collective wisdom in here is pretty insightful, but I've got one more question : What do you do if you're an ugly cunt?True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.11.2006 10:40 |
CMU HistoryGirl wrote:If there's ONE thing I'm good at, it's hiding it. In a vain attempt to hide it from myself, mostly, I suppose, but still. Anyway, I suppose that you and me both share most people's fate.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Girls aren't so different, Caspar. Please don't tell me you think I just came up with this idea, out of the fun of it. I'm just sick to death of everything, and I'm pretty much at my final straw. I don't know how long I can hold out on hope when it doesn't seem to do anything but disappoint me. At least if you expect to fail, it can only get better from there, and you don't have to deal with the Fall when it doesn't work. Between having been engaged and having to mutually end that relationship and dealing with "nice" guys who are either too scared or too selfish to deal with anything, I'm fed up. Most of us girls are hurting too, maybe we are just alittle better at hiding it, but the pain is still thereCMU HistoryGirl wrote: Because we can't find anyone else that isn't taken by some other lucky girl or isn't gay. Love sucks and that's the end of it. Screw it all, I'm going to just bury myself in my research for the rest of my life, easier than dealing with "nice" guys when they all turn out to be selfish, immature babiesPlenty of single nice guys out there. Sadly, most of us are perpetually in a state of hurt over having been dumped once too many. |
| Donna13 06.11.2006 10:40 |
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| Serry... 06.11.2006 10:45 |
<font color=blue>Rick wrote: True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for.It's so easy to say, Serry, but if you love that girl and you're an ugly cunt - what's then? Sometimes you can't say to your heart "Huh, she's not for me if she can't see how good I am inside"... |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.11.2006 11:11 |
Serry... wrote:But you have to show her how good you are.<font color=blue>Rick wrote: True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for.It's so easy to say, Serry, but if you love that girl and you're an ugly cunt - what's then? Sometimes you can't say to your heart "Huh, she's not for me if she can't see how good I am inside"... And I have to ask... how can you love that girl if you don't yet know her and she doesn't yet know you? And if she's driven by looks not heart, then what's there to love about her in the first place? (Same goes for guys, btw, not just girls.) |
| Rick 06.11.2006 11:16 |
Serry... wrote:Oh shut it. Go back in your shell :-P<font color=blue>Rick wrote: True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for.It's so easy to say, Serry, but if you love that girl and you're an ugly cunt - what's then? Sometimes you can't say to your heart "Huh, she's not for me if she can't see how good I am inside"... |
| rachael mae. 06.11.2006 12:00 |
because nice guys are boring. lol. Nah, I dunno why, but I always seem to prefer the jerks. |
| Haystacks Calhoun II 06.11.2006 12:11 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Nothing that a good old fashioned pearl necklace won't fix.Serry... wrote:But you have to show her how good you are.<font color=blue>Rick wrote: True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for.It's so easy to say, Serry, but if you love that girl and you're an ugly cunt - what's then? Sometimes you can't say to your heart "Huh, she's not for me if she can't see how good I am inside"... |
| Serry... 06.11.2006 12:12 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: But you have to show her how good you are. And I have to ask... how can you love that girl if you don't yet know her and she doesn't yet know you? And if she's driven by looks not heart, then what's there to love about her in the first place? (Same goes for guys, btw, not just girls.)These are the questions that can't be answered unless you can calculate your love and other feelings. But in the women case, from what I know about women (nether I know everything about them or I know nothing at all about them, there's no third option) - you can always say what kind of male will be more interesting to them than any others. And he'll be a total jerk (from point of view of other men of course). BTW, I'm shit inside, so everything is over for me, but now it's Rick's problem... ;-P |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.11.2006 12:44 |
Haystacks Calhounski wrote:Sorry, babe, it's diamonds. Or rubies or emeralds. Though, if pearls were offered, I suppose they'd be an acceptable substitute... at least temporarily.magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Nothing that a good old fashioned pearl necklace won't fix.Serry... wrote:But you have to show her how good you are.<font color=blue>Rick wrote: True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for.It's so easy to say, Serry, but if you love that girl and you're an ugly cunt - what's then? Sometimes you can't say to your heart "Huh, she's not for me if she can't see how good I am inside"... (kidding) |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.11.2006 12:51 |
Serry... wrote: These are the questions that can't be answered unless you can calculate your love and other feelings. But in the women case, from what I know about women (nether I know everything about them or I know nothing at all about them, there's no third option) - you can always say what kind of male will be more interesting to them than any others. And he'll be a total jerk (from point of view of other men of course). BTW, I'm shit inside, so everything is over for me, but now it's Rick's problem... ;-PYou know, Serry, you puzzle me. Sometimes you're so down on yourself and always you're down on love. Yet, you're attractive and intelligent... and often funny in a subtle way (that's not meant as a come-on, I'm just stating facts). Smart and funny are two of the main requirements for "getting the girl". With all your woes about love, it seems to me, you're looking at the wrong type of woman. If those you're interested in are interested in jerks, then maybe you need to reevaluate what you want in a woman. As to everything being over, nothing is over for you unless you give up, and you have too much to offer to be giving up. That goes for all of you posting the blues here. |
| Donna13 06.11.2006 12:53 |
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| Serry... 06.11.2006 15:08 |
"As to everything being over, nothing is over for you unless you give up, and you have too much to offer to be giving up." I gave up. But I hope Zebonka and starter of the thread won't follow my way. Good luck! |
| Haystacks Calhoun II 06.11.2006 15:10 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Nah, I've always found that nothing says "I Love You" like a good pearl necklace.Haystacks Calhounski wrote:Sorry, babe, it's diamonds. Or rubies or emeralds. Though, if pearls were offered, I suppose they'd be an acceptable substitute... at least temporarily. (kidding)magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Nothing that a good old fashioned pearl necklace won't fix.Serry... wrote:But you have to show her how good you are.<font color=blue>Rick wrote: True love lives inside, not on the outside. If a girl doesn't respect that, then she is not worth fighting for.It's so easy to say, Serry, but if you love that girl and you're an ugly cunt - what's then? Sometimes you can't say to your heart "Huh, she's not for me if she can't see how good I am inside"... |
| AspiringPhilosophe 06.11.2006 15:21 |
Serry... wrote: "As to everything being over, nothing is over for you unless you give up, and you have too much to offer to be giving up." I gave up. But I hope Zebonka and starter of the thread won't follow my way. Good luck!Ahh...so me and Caspar aren't the only ones giving up then, huh? That's kinda comforting |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.11.2006 15:39 |
CMU HistoryGirl wrote:Ah, man, you guys, come on. You're all so young. Giving up shouldn't be an option.Serry... wrote: "As to everything being over, nothing is over for you unless you give up, and you have too much to offer to be giving up." I gave up. But I hope Zebonka and starter of the thread won't follow my way. Good luck!Ahh...so me and Caspar aren't the only ones giving up then, huh? That's kinda comforting |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.11.2006 15:40 |
Haystacks Calhounski wrote: Nah, I've always found that nothing says "I Love You" like a good pearl necklace.Sweeeet. |
| Drummer imense! 06.11.2006 15:50 |
I've noticed that jerks get all the luck, i'm nice and i'm funny and great to be with, but no one wants THAT in this day and age :( Mind you i have noticed that a lot of girls do tend to try and bleed you dry, sometimes just because they can. There are nice girls that are not taken tho, so never give up the fight and all that :) |
| user name 06.11.2006 16:11 |
I would go so far as to say: 90% of guys think they are "nice guys," while they also think that 90% of other guys are "jerks." 90% of girls think they are attracted to "nice guys," whereas 90% of girls are rather attracted to confidence and humor (typical of "jerks"). |
| Hooligan's Holiday 06.11.2006 16:51 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:I believe the lady may be right, if you don't mind my saying. Trust me, where I live, there are a lot of jerk-faced guys around...mircal wrote:Maybe I am. And...?<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: //Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is....Are you saiyng nice guys are hard to find? |
| mircal 06.11.2006 19:06 |
Ok,,, i would say am a nice guy. I am far from the jerk type.. How ever, i wanna say for all the nice guys, that us nice guys dont have to finish last. As music man said, many nice guy's are nice but thats it, they are not being any more than that besides glingly ect ect. I find i am nice guy but what helps me is i have fun, i stand up for my self, i have confidnece (dont mean to come accross as i am bragging) but it was always the same old thing i was being told, "your a nice guy and i dont wanna hurt you" then they end up goign for the jerk. Mauinly the jerk showed thema good time. Ok, yes gilr's wanna be loved, hugged, kissed, brought gifts at time, and have nice thigns whispaerd in the ear, but at the right time. Not ever second do does tht have to happep. The feel smothered, same as a guy when a girl sms's or calls him 24/7. (some people like this but thats a different story) you got to be your self, you go to stand on your own to feet, you can been the nicest guy and get know were if your a bore, or you can be the nicest but have charm, self confidence, most importantly,, you need to have a back bone. Thats what make you stand out. you cant be a sob. This is just what i have found in my life. It might make sense to some one else,ir migt not, girl's might think its silly what i am saying, but we all find things out for a self, i dont wanna be jerk, i am nice guy, but i believe nice guys dont have to finsh last, they can come first and in the most amazing way. And if you do find some one who like go's for a jerk... Dont worry, good luck to them, i see it all the time and have not seen it ever end in a happy way. |
| mircal 06.11.2006 19:08 |
<font color=black>Emo Mayniac Queen wrote:Thats fare enough, but do you welcome people in a nice way.. or??<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:I believe the lady may be right, if you don't mind my saying. Trust me, where I live, there are a lot of jerk-faced guys around...mircal wrote:Maybe I am. And...?<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: //Off Topic// I'm trying hard to understand everything you've said. You have alot of spelling mistakes. Just pointing that out. //On Topic// Why would the girl finish with a nice guy in the first place? If she does find one, that is....Are you saiyng nice guys are hard to find? |
| Sweetie 07.11.2006 04:11 |
I Don't Like Jerks, That's Probably Why I Don't Like Anyone....That I Know.... |
| Donna13 07.11.2006 05:58 |
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| Sergei. 07.11.2006 08:00 |
In my school (As if thirteen and fourteen years olds really need to be going out) the popular people recycle each other and when a popular guy dumps a popular girl, he moves on to another popular girl and then the two popular girls begin to hate each other and call each other bitches and split their little cliques up. Basically, the hotness factor is big in our school. If you are not hot or popular, do not plan on getting asked out until people get older and more mature and become less shallow. But to say something about the topic: Most of the popular girls go for the group of popular boys who are... yes, jerks. Hope that wasn't too much :P |