Maz 29.10.2006 22:27 |
Ok, so I'll ask the author - why is it coming out in the States almost 5 months after the UK release? (And is it ok to drum up some business for you by providing a few links?) |
Lester Burnham 29.10.2006 22:33 |
Heeeeeeey, who's this thread for? Yes, considering I've been talking about my book recently, I suppose I'll spill the beans a bit. "Queen: The Complete Works" is being released on November 26th, 2006, in the UK, and - as of right now - on April 1st, 2007, in the US. I contacted my publisher about this, and he said that it was because the company (Reynolds & Hearn) is based in the UK, their US sister company (Trafalgar Square) publishes a season behind. I don't understand why, but this is how it is. He then went on to say that in the age of online shopping (Amazon and all that), the whole "season behind" thing is redundant, and that it will most likely be brought up in the US publishing date. What I would suggest is that if you live in the US and don't want to wait until April, order it from the UK Amazon. And posting some links would be great, I don't think I've got any on me right now... |
Maz 29.10.2006 22:38 |
US Release link UK Release link |
Adam Baboolal 30.10.2006 07:34 |
I can't remember what your book is about. Can you remind us since there's a nice new thread about it? Adam. |
lizardmaker 30.10.2006 08:33 |
Bizarre coincidence: This book is being released on my birthday in the UK, and on my husband's birthday in the US! How did they know??? Anyway, I found this blurb on Amazon: Mixing and clashing an outrageously eclectic set of influences—the close harmonies of the Beatles, the guitar pyrotechnics of Jimi Hendrix, the heavy sound of Led Zeppelin, and the glamour of David Bowie—Queen found a winning formula by channeling this strange cocktail through its charismatic frontman, Freddie Mercury. More than a decade after Mercury's death, Queen's fan base continues to grow. This meticulous, session-by-session, album-by-album, tour-by-tour chronicle of the band is the book that Queen fans have been waiting for. |
Lester Burnham 30.10.2006 09:02 |
That description is a bit of hyperbole... the "session-to-session" thing should read as "song-by-song", but I don't write the blurbs. Basically, my book is a reference guide. There are ten or eleven sections, with the first three (songs, albums, and live shows) taking up a considerable portion of the text. I also go into pre-Queen and post-Queen bands, but the live stuff is a broad, general overview - not too specific, because someone else on this board is working on an indepth live Queen book. The songs and albums are the main points of interest. I "review" every song - released, unreleased, and live - and augment it with quotes, reviews, and any information about the recording process. This doesn't include just Queen songs, it also includes solo songs. Same with the albums, except they are in chronological order instead (in the songs section) of in alphabetical order. My inspiration for the book was Nicholas Pegg's The Complete David Bowie. Even if you're just a casual Bowie fan, I recommend the book highly. When I first got it, I had only one or two albums and maybe a greatest hits, but once I started to read that book, I picked up most of his albums that I could find so that I could explore the nuances of his music all the more. That's what I'm hoping people will do with my book. Oh, and lizard, I knew beforehand that those dates were important to you, so I mentioned it to the publishers and they did me a favor! ;) |
kc kopite 107 30.10.2006 09:30 |
Hello Lester i didnt realise this was your book i saw it on Amazon UK a few days ago and have already ordered it good luck with the book if its half as good as the Bowie book (which is absolutely wonderful) you mentioned it will be brilliant am looking forward to the end of November already |
Jazz 78 30.10.2006 10:19 |
Wishing you tremendous success and positive reviews on your book Lester!!! Looking forward to getting a copy once it hits the States. |
Megamike The GREAT 30.10.2006 10:47 |
Very Nice.. however I must ask... Was there any kind of reaction to the naming of the book when there is a book already called Queen: the Complete Works... published by EMI music back in 1985 although I know it's no longer available and is pretty much nothing but music notations with some black and white photos.. Mine is so worn out that it's missing pages.. ok.. it's missing ONE page and that went to my girlfriend a couple years ago.. :) Gratz on the book though.. good luck. |
Adam Baboolal 30.10.2006 10:52 |
Mike Preston wrote: Very Nice.. however I must ask... Was there any kind of reaction to the naming of the book when there is a book already called Queen: the Complete Works... published by EMI music back in 1985 although I know it's no longer available and is pretty much nothing but music notations with some black and white photos.. Mine is so worn out that it's missing pages.. ok.. it's missing ONE page and that went to my girlfriend a couple years ago.. :) Gratz on the book though.. good luck.Hah! I found my brother's copy of the same book! And predictably, in tatters! It's split in half, missing out a few songs. Adam. |
Lester Burnham 30.10.2006 10:56 |
Actually, I didn't come up with the name of the book... I was expecting it to go along with the other "The Complete [musician/band]" pattern that R&H had established, but maybe they thought "The Complete Queen" didn't sound good, I dunno. Or maybe the publishers were trying to tie it in somehow to The Complete Works... anyway, I'm not sure, but long story short, the title wasn't mine, but I doubt I could've come up with anything better. |
YourValentine 30.10.2006 12:16 |
I pre-ordered it. I am very very much looking forward to this. "Queen: I Want It All" has decreased from £21.94 to £19.95 since I pre-ordered it - amazing:) |
you_rock_my_socks06 30.10.2006 14:16 |
ha now America knows what it feels like to get stuff last XD Seriously though you guys are lucky u get pretty much everthing first well before it hits the UK. |
Dan C. 30.10.2006 15:28 |
You'll sign mine, will you not? ;) |
Lisser 30.10.2006 15:41 |
Excellent job Lester!!!! I can't wait to get my copy. I've also pre-ordered. :) |
Janet 30.10.2006 18:41 |
I pre-ordered too :-) |
Ian R 30.10.2006 20:59 |
Congrats Lester! I've pre-ordered the book too. Coincidentally, it's due out the day before my birthday, so you must have received the cheque I sent you... :-) |
The Real Wizard 30.10.2006 23:03 |
I think I get a free autographed copy, yes? ;) |
Lester Burnham 30.10.2006 23:19 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I think I get a free autographed copy, yes? ;)What the hell for??? :P |
mike hunt 31.10.2006 01:28 |
Just wondering if this book is going to put an end to the question who wrote what on the miracle and Innuendo albums? |
The Real Wizard 31.10.2006 01:40 |
Lester Burnham wrote:Well, I did design the UPC label!Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I think I get a free autographed copy, yes? ;)What the hell for??? :P |
Smitty 31.10.2006 01:52 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Yeah, and I created the formula for the glue that holds the books together. I deserve 5 signed copies.Lester Burnham wrote:Well, I did design the UPC label!Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I think I get a free autographed copy, yes? ;)What the hell for??? :P |
Fenderek 31.10.2006 10:26 |
CAN'T WAIT!!! |
PieterMC 31.10.2006 11:04 |
I seem to recall Lester saying that everybody here would get a free autographed copy. Right Lester?? |
Jjeroen 31.10.2006 11:09 |
Only the people on the tank-you-list of course! ;-) |
The Real Wizard 31.10.2006 13:20 |
jeroen wrote: Only the people on the tank-you-list of course! ;-)lol @ Jeroen! |
Lisser 31.10.2006 22:38 |
LOL!!! You guys are hilarious! Again, well done Lester!!! We are all very proud of you! :) |
Megamike The GREAT 31.10.2006 22:57 |
Well, I don't want it autographed.. but.. what I do want is ALL YOUR MONEY>. HAND IT OVER!! Bet you never thought you would be robbed via internet did ya? LOL OH SHIT.. I just commited a crime. |
Lester Burnham 31.10.2006 23:06 |
C'mon lads, if I gave away all those free copies, I won't be able to take my vacation to the Galapagos Islands...! |
Ian R 03.11.2006 08:12 |
Naturally, I expect Lester to deliver my copy in person. What? |
kc kopite 107 23.11.2006 13:39 |
is the book still coming out in November in the UK |
Lester Burnham 23.11.2006 14:08 |
kcoker63 wrote: is the book still coming out in November in the UKNothing's changed, as far as I know. |
kc kopite 107 24.11.2006 02:48 |
Lester Burnham wrote:thanks Lester hope to read your book soonkcoker63 wrote: is the book still coming out in November in the UKNothing's changed, as far as I know. |
beautifulsoup 24.11.2006 15:20 |
I've pre-ordered. I can't wait to have this!!! Oh, yeah. Except that I have to wait. Thanks for this book, Zeni! |
Lester Burnham 24.11.2006 16:11 |
beautifulsoup wrote: I've pre-ordered. I can't wait to have this!!! Oh, yeah. Except that I have to wait. Thanks for this book, Zeni!?!?! I wrote it! |
beautifulsoup 24.11.2006 22:40 |
Lester Burnham wrote:Whoops! <<<slinks off, hanging head in shame>>>beautifulsoup wrote: I've pre-ordered. I can't wait to have this!!! Oh, yeah. Except that I have to wait. Thanks for this book, Zeni!?!?! I wrote it! |
AC 25.11.2006 07:54 |
Thank you for this book, Zeni. I LOVE YOU!!!! |
Serry... 25.11.2006 09:22 |
I'm awaiting for my free copy... Well two copies... Okay, I'm ready to pay for the one, but in cash only. |
Penetration_Guru 26.11.2006 18:17 |
Hang on, if Zeni's written a book, I refuse to buy Lester's... |
Lester Burnham 26.11.2006 20:13 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Hang on, if Zeni's written a book, I refuse to buy Lester's...That's alright, I wouldn't buy mine either. Actually, considering today is the publication date and there's no book out (I assume), I'm going to contact my editors and see what's up. |
Adam Baboolal 27.11.2006 06:10 |
Oh damn. What happened? I was all set to look into Amazon. Adam. |
freddie lives 28817 28.11.2006 05:23 |
Yes. Please contact your editors as Amazon.co.uk is now saying 4-6 weeks delivery, and I was looking forward to reading the book. I just don't get it Lester - your book is NOT an official Queen Productions release, so why the hold up :) As a long time Queen Fan, I'm used to everything Queen getting put back :( |
Adam Baboolal 28.11.2006 07:42 |
Bloody hell, 304 pages? That's more than the Peter Freestone book. What have you put into this thing?! Adam. |
Bohardy 28.11.2006 08:15 |
Is this the real cover then Lester? link |
YourValentine 28.11.2006 11:07 |
Hmm, this looks just like the 2007 calendar they are selling on ebay, only the font is different link In my amazon basket I have Lester's book together with Brian May: I Want It All. Let's see which one comes first:) |
Lester Burnham 28.11.2006 11:15 |
Ha, Adam, it's actually 424 pages... you'll see what I put into it! I contacted the publisher, and he said that he had just gotten the final electronic pages back today, and he sent them to me and asked me to go over them and check for any mistakes. The book is set to be printed next week, so I imagine it'll be out just in time for Christmas. And yes, evidently that is the cover. |
Penetration_Guru 28.11.2006 12:34 |
Blimey, a non-Wembley 86 cover image. Who'd have fucking thought it... |
Crezchi 28.11.2006 19:57 |
Megamike The GREAT wrote: Very Nice.. however I must ask... Was there any kind of reaction to the naming of the book when there is a book already called Queen: the Complete Works... published by EMI music back in 1985 although I know it's no longer available and is pretty much nothing but music notations with some black and white photos.. Mine is so worn out that it's missing pages.. ok.. it's missing ONE page and that went to my girlfriend a couple years ago.. :) Gratz on the book though.. good luck.Yes grats on the book. :) and i have that Sheet music book from '85 too. :) The concert listings were in there too, wonder why GB couldn't have used that for reference?? lol |
freddie lives 28817 29.11.2006 05:31 |
WOW! A cover for a Queen book with just a picture of Freddie on the front and not the whole band - bit like the calenders then! As you say PG, nice to see a non-wembley cover. Lester - are there any photos in this? |
Benn 29.11.2006 06:10 |
Hi Lester, Great news this - finally getting to see the fruits of your labour. Did you have any choice in the image used on the cover? I'd have thought an image of the "band" vs an image of Freddie would have been more appropriate........ Still, it'a all good! |
Lester Burnham 29.11.2006 11:29 |
Benn wrote: Hi Lester, Great news this - finally getting to see the fruits of your labour. Did you have any choice in the image used on the cover? I'd have thought an image of the "band" vs an image of Freddie would have been more appropriate........ Still, it'a all good!I had no say in the image on the cover, and I agree that an image of the band would've been nice... Also, there are no photos except what's on the front and back covers. |
Erin 29.11.2006 11:49 |
Ooopsie...I see the posts are out of order, and my question has been answered. Nevermind. Looking forward to the book, Lester..:-) |
gastelllo 04.12.2006 10:42 |
It still on pre-order status on USA-amazon. When we can order the book? Do you put lyric inside? Thank you. |
Lester Burnham 04.12.2006 11:10 |
gastelllo wrote: It still on pre-order status on USA-amazon. When we can order the book? Do you put lyric inside? Thank you.The book won't be coming out in the US until April 07. As I mentioned before in this thread, if you're really jonesing for the book, order it off of amazon.co.uk. Zeni graciously provided links on the first page, so check them out. As for lyrics... there aren't any in the book, unless I referenced them for something. |
Penetration_Guru 04.12.2006 12:44 |
When's it out in the UK? |
Lester Burnham 04.12.2006 13:07 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: When's it out in the UK?Going to the printer's this week, I'm told, so it should be out in the next few weeks (almost certainly before Christmas, oh I hope I hope I hope). |
Penetration_Guru 04.12.2006 13:45 |
Me too, it's a fucking boring time of year and I could do with something to help me sleep through it... |
Lester Burnham 04.12.2006 14:52 |
Just for that, I'm taking your name out of the acknowledgments section! |
PieterMC 04.12.2006 15:47 |
Is my name in there? No point in buying otherwise ;-P |
Penetration_Guru 04.12.2006 17:31 |
I can still cancel my order... |
Lester Burnham 04.12.2006 17:38 |
PieterMC wrote: Is my name in there? No point in buying otherwise ;-PYeah, it's in there, but I have no idea what compelled me to put it in ;) Penetration_Guru wrote: I can still cancel my order...I'm sorry, I said some things that I regret. It was the heat of the moment. I take it back -- I could never take your name out. |
Penetration_Guru 05.12.2006 12:37 |
..at least not if it's already at the printers... |
kc kopite 107 11.12.2006 16:37 |
just a quick question are we any nearer seeing the book in our hands good luck with the sales |
Lester Burnham 11.12.2006 17:01 |
Haha, sorry about this... there was a slight delay with the book as best as I can tell, but the good news is that I've seen both the final cover and the final text, which means that it should be going off to the printer's really soon. As for a publication date... I have no idea. I don't know if the book will be printed and on the shelves in the next two weeks, but if I hear anything, I'll let you all know. |
Penetration_Guru 11.12.2006 17:59 |
Now is not the time to mention that Amazon have removed every trace of it ever having existed... Maybe this was the greatest WUM of all time? |
Lester Burnham 11.12.2006 18:05 |
It's still there! link link |
Penetration_Guru 12.12.2006 17:36 |
Made you look... |
Fenderek 13.12.2006 13:45 |
LOL |
Mr. Scully 14.12.2006 17:45 |
Who the hell is Georg Purvis - is that you, Lester? :-) Sounds like a Greek first name with a Finnish surname or something like that. Damn, I should visit QueenZone more often. Last time I was here, Lester was only thinking about writing a book. Anyway, I'm sure I will order this book too. |
Lester Burnham 14.12.2006 18:12 |
Mr. Scully wrote: Who the hell is Georg Purvis - is that you, Lester? :-) Sounds like a Greek first name with a Finnish surname or something like that.Yup, that's me! As far as I know, "Purvis" is Scottish, and "Georg" is... well, my dad's idea. Crazy hippie. Mr. Scully wrote: Damn, I should visit QueenZone more often. Last time I was here, Lester was only thinking about writing a book.Ha! I actually don't remember publicizing my intentions, but you might be right... |
Dan C. 14.12.2006 19:20 |
I will only buy your book if my name is on every page. As you know, I DID inspire and/or help write all of the GOOD Queen songs. My time machine is second to none. |
ASN 21.12.2006 11:49 |
Can't wait to get the book- I grew up listening to Queen - who'd of thunk that years later my nephew was going to end up writing- Queen: Complete Works. Now I know why he always had pencil in hand, notebook on pillow and headphones on ears. Sometimes it pays to put off school work hmmm. Good luck to my FAVORITE nephew ;-) $$$ Looking forward to more books by Georg Purvis :-) |
Erin 21.12.2006 11:53 |
Ok, all together now..AWW! ;-) |
Lester Burnham 21.12.2006 12:06 |
Oh geez... it's a family affair now. |
bohemian 11513 21.12.2006 13:15 |
ASN wrote: Can't wait to get the book- I grew up listening to Queen )Me too can´t wait to get the book! While you where listening to Queen... ...I grew up reading Zeni´s books! :-) |
AC 21.12.2006 13:26 |
I think that after all these rumours about the book being written by Zeni, Lester decided to change the content of his book and that caused the delay. The "new" edition will have 1000 page and on every page there will be written "PROPERTY OF GEORG PURVIS PRODUCTION". There are rumours about an audio book coming soon. |
bohemian 11513 21.12.2006 13:29 |
AC wrote: ...There are rumours about an audio book coming soon.Georg "Zeni" Purvis seems to be blessed with this crazy little thing called "Midas touch"! :-))) |
Erin 21.12.2006 13:44 |
AC wrote: The "new" edition will have 1000 page and on every page there will be written "PROPERTY OF GEORG PURVIS PRODUCTION".Nice..;-D |
Lisser 21.12.2006 15:28 |
Awwww!!!! I wish I had an uncle as sweet as Lester does. I'm jealous! |
Lester Burnham 21.12.2006 15:44 |
Lisser wrote: Awwww!!!! I wish I had an uncle as sweet as Lester does. I'm jealous!That's my aunt, but the sentiment is still appreciated :) |
Dan C. 21.12.2006 17:36 |
Erin wrote: Ok, all together now..AWW! ;-)!WWA..won rehtegot lla ,kO :\ |
QueenMum 21.12.2006 21:44 |
ASN sounds sweet |
kc kopite 107 09.01.2007 11:47 |
happy new year does anybody know if/when we are likely to be able to read this really looking forward thanks for your help |
Lester Burnham 09.01.2007 12:01 |
kc kopite 107 wrote: happy new year does anybody know if/when we are likely to be able to read this really looking forward thanks for your helpIt's not a matter of "if" now, I believe it's still at the printer's... it's only a matter of "when". The cover is now up on both US and UK amazons, so that's a good indicator that it's getting nearer to publication. |
kc kopite 107 09.01.2007 18:29 |
Lester Burnham wrote:thanks for that have seen the cover very nice am looking forward to the rest of itkc kopite 107 wrote: happy new year does anybody know if/when we are likely to be able to read this really looking forward thanks for your helpIt's not a matter of "if" now, I believe it's still at the printer's... it's only a matter of "when". The cover is now up on both US and UK amazons, so that's a good indicator that it's getting nearer to publication. |
liam 10.01.2007 02:28 |
whens it coming out in australia? |
Eviltwin 10.01.2007 10:23 |
Congratulations. : ) |
Penetration_Guru 10.01.2007 16:23 |
I had an email from Amazon today, telling me that they expect a delay of 4-6 weeks. Which is the same email they sent me on Nov 28, although the site still claims it was published Nov 26. It amazes me how little info comes from publishers compared to record companies. Record companies WANT you to know when their products are out...publishers don't even seem to have websites. |
Lester Burnham 12.01.2007 18:24 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: I had an email from Amazon today, telling me that they expect a delay of 4-6 weeks. Which is the same email they sent me on Nov 28, although the site still claims it was published Nov 26. It amazes me how little info comes from publishers compared to record companies. Record companies WANT you to know when their products are out...publishers don't even seem to have websites.It's frustrating, I know, but even more frustrating for me because I wanted to have this out by Christmas, which was what I was told would be the case. I've emailed the company to see what the story is, but haven't really heard any updates in a while. All I can guess is that it'll be out... soon. |
Jjeroen 13.01.2007 05:54 |
Yeach - looks like bookcompany's are exactly the same as recordcompany's... how utterly frustrating for the writer/artist themselves. Cheers Lester - will be waiting patiently! ;-) |
YourValentine 13.01.2007 07:09 |
The German amazon website has announced the book for April 2007. I do not know if they get English books later that amazon.co.uk or at the same time. |
Penetration_Guru 13.01.2007 10:01 |
The other thing is that you'd expect the writer to be in the loop. |
kc kopite 107 02.02.2007 15:51 |
i emailed the publishers today who confirmed that the book has now been printed and should be available shortly which is good news am looking forward to reading this |
Adam Baboolal 02.02.2007 22:12 |
The never ending stor-eeeee! lol |
Lester Burnham 02.02.2007 22:35 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: The never ending stor-eeeee! lolSeriously... some day, one day... |
Adam Baboolal 03.02.2007 10:13 |
We live in hope! |
kc kopite 107 07.02.2007 13:10 |
just had an email to say my book has been posted so should get it at the weekend |
Lester Burnham 07.02.2007 13:37 |
kc kopite 107 wrote: just had an email to say my book has been posted so should get it at the weekend*shock* Here's hoping! |
freddie lives 28817 08.02.2007 16:04 |
Yup. amazon sent me a despatch notice today as well. |
Ian R 09.02.2007 05:38 |
IT's ARRIVED! At 424 pages, and well over an inch thick, it's certainly one behemoth of a book. Lester, I really don't know how many hours you invested in writing this tome, but I'm certainly going to invest a few myself in reading it. Also, it's great to see so many familar names in the Acknowledgements section. I'm particularly pleased to see that 'Ivor Biggun' managed to sneak in there... ;-) |
freddie lives 28817 09.02.2007 06:15 |
mine turned up as well today. It's basically a complete discography (including demos)of both Queen AND solo work, but each song has a write up ranging anywhere from a small paragraph to nearly a whole page. There are interview snippets throughout as well. In all, it's probably one of the most informative Queen books around and WELL WORTH the money! Nice job Lester! Maybe if Greg Brooks HAS been sacked, the band will ask YOU to be their new archivist....!! :) |
Adam Baboolal 09.02.2007 06:27 |
Discography? But I thought he said it had things about working in the studio and all that. Anyone want to review the book cause that's not what I thought it was gonna be. Adam. |
Lester Burnham 09.02.2007 10:06 |
Discography's the wrong word for it, I think... it's more of a reference. As for sessions... that was part of the description on Amazon and other sites ("session-by-session, album-by-album, etc.") when it should have been "song-by-song" etc. If I'd've had access to the sessions, I would have GLADLY written about them. But I'm glad that you guys received them -- you've even got them before I have! ;) |
freddie lives 28817 09.02.2007 10:08 |
Well I don't have it in front of me at the moment Adam, but from what i recall when I flicked through it before going to work, it's got about 6 sections. Section One focuses on Pre-Queen bands and tour dates where applicable. Section two is the making of each album in the studio. Section three is a list of every song in alphabetical order with varying degrees of info about each song interspersed with interview snippets. The other sections cover a discography, the BBC sessions (lots of info there), videos, Queen tours (though not as indepth as Greg's book obviously), solo tours and the Q&PR tour. It'll take me ages to read it all. Finally Adam, it's got your name at the back in the list of "thanks to", so you'll have to buy it for that alone! |
Erin 09.02.2007 10:22 |
Can't wait to get mines!! :-)) |
kc kopite 107 09.02.2007 12:21 |
mine came as well its similar in layout to the bowie book am off to read it now if its half as good as the bowie one i will be happy |
Serry... 10.02.2007 14:54 |
Ian R wrote: Also, it's great to see so many familar names in the Acknowledgements section.Am I there? He promised me to put my name over there. I need some fame before I die. |
Lester Burnham 10.02.2007 15:45 |
Serry... wrote:You're there, and I even spelled it right, as you requested!Ian R wrote: Also, it's great to see so many familar names in the Acknowledgements section.Am I there? He promised me to put my name over there. I need some fame before I die. |
Serry... 10.02.2007 16:10 |
Thanks! I can die peacefully now. |
Maz 10.02.2007 22:31 |
Glad to see my book is finally getting out there. (Couldn't resist, Cox-a-rino) |
AC 11.02.2007 03:47 |
Zeni wrote: Glad to see my book is finally getting out there. (Couldn't resist, Cox-a-rino)Come on Zeni, we all know this is not your book. If it really was, my name would me in the "Acknowledgements" section. With a big picture of my camels. |
freddie lives 28817 12.02.2007 10:23 |
So far, the only gripe I've got about this book is that the author passes his own comments and opinions on various things. For example, he clearly states that he believes the 30th anniversay "NATO" DVDA release to be a waste of time (though I have to agree as it's no where near as good as the original USA release in terms of musical seperation) and that he doesn't half slag off Jazz as being a crap album, especially Roger's two tracks. Sorry Lester, but i din't really want to read YOUR opinions of the albums. Other than that, it's so far worth the money I paid. |
Adam Baboolal 12.02.2007 10:25 |
freddie lives wrote: So far, the only gripe I've got about this book is that the author passes his own comments and opinions on various things. For example, he clearly states that he believes the 30th anniversay "NATO" DVDA release to be a waste of time (though I have to agree as it's no where near as good as the original USA release in terms of musical seperation) and that he doesn't half slag off Jazz as being a crap album, especially Roger's two tracks. Sorry Lester, but i din't really want to read YOUR opinions of the albums. Other than that, it's so far worth the money I paid.Oh dear... not good. |
Lester Burnham 12.02.2007 10:54 |
I understand where you're coming from, but I tried tried tried to remain fair and balanced when it came to reviewing all the songs and albums. It's really difficult though, especially when you love the band so much, because not everything they did was perfect, and of course you're going to get people who say, "Well, I happen to love 'Fun It', so I don't need some no-name jackass with a book contract telling me it's crap!". But I don't think I tried to pass off my opinion as fact, though, so of course you're welcome to disagree with me ;) and I can see how it would be an annoyance. I DID try to keep the book as factual as possible, and I went in listening to all the songs and albums with an open mind... |
Bohardy 12.02.2007 19:23 |
Lester, you rock. My book came today and I've only had a chance to skim through bits of it. But even though there's not much in it that's 'novel' to me, it's bloody hard to put down. You've basically written 'the' book that needed to be written, and you deserve nothing but praise for being the one to undertake the project and manage to get it to bear fruit. It immmediately evoked 'Revolution In The Head', which is one of my all time favourite books (and I know you regard highly too) which can only be a good thing. Of course it's impossible for you as the writer to withhold your subjective opinions on the songs, and it would be unreaosnable and naive for any reader of this book to expect you to do so. But what is possible for you is to try and keep your opinions understated and inoffensive, and generally fair; which you have seemed to pulled off from what I've seen so far. And the way you do it is entirely in keeping with the ways other authors of comparable works have done. So good work fella. I'll look forward to giving more thoughts when I've properly looked at it. Two things though: - Why is my name in there? (Thanks though!). - I'm sure She Makes Me was subtitled Stormtrooper In Stilettos because one of the techinical crew at the time commented that the percussion track sounded like 'a stormtrooper in stilettos'? |
freddie lives 28817 13.02.2007 06:47 |
Yes. I agree with Bohardy. It IS hard to put down. |
Ian R 13.02.2007 11:30 |
A pictorial preview of Lester's tome for those of you who haven't yet decided whether or not to purchase it: link |
Maz 13.02.2007 12:59 |
Thanks for the pics/links, Ian. The book does look very impressive, both in content and size. Should be a fun read. |
Serry... 13.02.2007 15:07 |
Thanks Ian! I owe Lester some beer now and can't discuss with him anymore. Damn, I must to get the book with Lester's autograph and show it to my ex-gf, she gotta know that she lost not only BMW! |
Pim Derks 13.02.2007 15:40 |
Wow, why am I in the credits ? :D |
Lester Burnham 13.02.2007 21:03 |
Thanks everyone for your kind words. Hopefully you all like it, and if you don't, then just be gentle :) Many thanks Ian, for posting the pictures - it looks good! I can't wait to have my own copy! (p.s. your check is in the mail :P ) |
Boy Thomas Raker 13.02.2007 22:40 |
Georg/Lester/Perry, congratulations, it looks fantastic, you must be very proud. Well done! |
Benn 14.02.2007 10:21 |
Georg, A triumph! Fruition old son - and something to be extremely proud of. I hope that a certain person who infrequently visits here has had the courtesty of congratulating you. Without "official" access, it's amazing what you have managed to achieve. The Queen community is alive and well! |
kc kopite 107 14.02.2007 12:44 |
am enjoying reading this i know you got the idea from the bowie book which is brilliant and this book is just as good maybe we should sneak you into the archives and let you write about all the seeions and unreleased tracks what a book that would be |
Champipple 15.02.2007 10:58 |
Just pre-ordered today. Wondering though, If I slipped you a $20 can I get a personalized copy with a picture of me on the cover? ;) |
AC 16.02.2007 12:59 |
I just ordered the book. :-) |
Jjeroen 17.02.2007 09:48 |
Hey Lester! My copy arrived today - congratulations and thanks a lot man! Though I still need to read it all, at first sight it is indeed something that you can be proud of. Looks very accurate, complete, thorough and interesting. And, yes, actually something that indeed ADDS something new to all the tons of books that are already out there. MOST especially in the documentation of all the unreleased/unheard songs. Looks like it is worth all the amount of time you have put in this work. Hope you are satisfied and proud of it yourself, and it was a worthwhile experience ;-) Cheers! Here's to you and your debut as an author! Jeroen |
freddie lives 28817 17.02.2007 10:19 |
LESTER: On page 93 of the book, you mention the fan club release of The Cross 1992 live in germany "bootleg" and that you DON'T have a copy! I'm absolutely astounded at that. Do I need to upload for people???? D |
Penetration_Guru 17.02.2007 14:21 |
I haven't got to page 93 yet, but the two fan club official bootlegs date from 1990 & 1991. Do I add this to Lester's error list, or yours? |
freddie lives 28817 17.02.2007 18:47 |
His I suppose. I simply read his blurb and thought "hang on, I've got that tape", so posted the above message. Never even thought to check the date. |
YourValentine 18.02.2007 05:44 |
I don't think it's an error - the Düsseldorf concert was recorded 1991 but released by the fan club in 1992, isn't that correct? |
Penetration_Guru 18.02.2007 09:27 |
You're right, it's not an error. p93 specifies a 1992 release of a 1991 recording, whereas the post above refers to it as "1992 Live in Germany", which is ambiguous. Apologies all round - I'll get back to page 50 |
pma 18.02.2007 09:55 |
I'm surprised that (based on the sample pages) the book even titles the 'Que Sera Sera' bit from the Garden Lodge extacts as 'Fuck off and die you fag', the title which first surfaced in the old-old-old Queen hub when a certain Chad Hanging renamed the shared file to that title. Or is there an actual official source that names it in a similarily vulgar way? Oh, btw. I've shamelessly plugged this book in a few musician forums quoting the Queenzone news article. I'll buy a copy of this book once I stop being poor, which is around 2011... Or next week. |
freddie lives 28817 19.02.2007 04:32 |
re the dusseldorf concert date. That's just the way i've interpreted the text. The point is, Lester says he's never heard it, so does one of us need to upload it for people? |
Lester Burnham 21.02.2007 16:27 |
Glad that the 1991 / 1992 thing was cleared up. If I wasn't so damn busy, I would've clarified here m'self, but thanks Barb for figuring out what I meant!
freddie lives wrote: re the dusseldorf concert date. That's just the way i've interpreted the text. The point is, Lester says he's never heard it, so does one of us need to upload it for people?Sure, if you're feeling generous! ;) pma wrote: I'm surprised that (based on the sample pages) the book even titles the 'Que Sera Sera' bit from the Garden Lodge extacts as 'Fuck off and die you fag', the title which first surfaced in the old-old-old Queen hub when a certain Chad Hanging renamed the shared file to that title. Or is there an actual official source that names it in a similarily vulgar way?Ahh, I wasn't aware of that... that's the title I knew the song as, no matter how vulgar... certainly if the song were ever officially released (not that that'll ever happen), I doubt the songwriters would want it titled as 'Que Sera Sera'... pma wrote: Oh, btw. I've shamelessly plugged this book in a few musician forums quoting the Queenzone news article. I'll buy a copy of this book once I stop being poor, which is around 2011... Or next week.Thanks :) |
YourValentine 21.02.2007 17:29 |
"certainly if the song were ever officially released (not that that'll ever happen), I doubt the songwriters would want it titled as 'Que Sera Sera'..." Hmm, Que sera sera WAS the title of the song. It's an old song performed by Doris Day, I don't remember the songwriter right now... |
Lester Burnham 21.02.2007 18:03 |
YourValentine wrote: "certainly if the song were ever officially released (not that that'll ever happen), I doubt the songwriters would want it titled as 'Que Sera Sera'..." Hmm, Que sera sera WAS the title of the song. It's an old song performed by Doris Day, I don't remember the songwriter right now...Yeah, that's what they started off singing, but then they sang "Fuck off and die you fag". I just don't think the songwriters of the original song would want it associated with such a title. Of course, I was just making a half-joke initially, but I completely messed it up... |
Bohardy 21.02.2007 18:16 |
I got your half-joke... Perhaps you should stick to sparring with iGSM? |
Bohardy 21.02.2007 18:17 |
...Or maybe even writing authoritative Queen books? Now there's an idea! |
Pim Derks 22.02.2007 08:04 |
I want to know why I'm listed in the Thanks section - I have no idea, it's not like I'm a specialist on a Queenrelated-subject - like Mr Scully/John S Stuart/etc are :) |
Mr Faron Hyte 22.02.2007 19:18 |
I got this in the mail today. I've been skipping around all afternoon, taking in the different sections, reading bits and pieces here and there, and it is absolutely terrific. Easily the best Queen discography-type work I have ever read, by far. Interesting, well-written, very accurate based on the bits I have read, very thorough, well laid out and easy to use, very readable prose style. This is basically the Queen discography book I have wanted for 20 years. This is a tremendous accomplishment and I salute the author for the hard work that went into it - all the better that its the product of one of our very own, and one of the nicer members of the forum at that. A delightful chap who doesn't type IN ALL CAPS and speak to people like garbage - but I digress. Kudos, kudos, kudos, to you, Mr. Purvis - you have done a great service to future Queen fans and compiled what will undoubtedly become one of the five indispensible Queen books that will probably ever be published. And speaking of publication, kudos to Reynolds and Hearn. Buy this, everybody, you will not be disappointed. |
Lester Burnham 26.02.2007 20:05 |
Bohardy wrote: I got your half-joke... Perhaps you should stick to sparring with iGSM?Yeah, that sounds good... Bohardy wrote: ...Or maybe even writing authoritative Queen books? Now there's an idea!...and so does that! Pim Derks wrote: I want to know why I'm listed in the Thanks section - I have no idea, it's not like I'm a specialist on a Queenrelated-subject - like Mr Scully/John S Stuart/etc are :)Keep in mind I've been on the site for a while (not as long as most), so I've come across a few worthy discussions, and I recall you adding considerably to some. Or it might've been the 'Brother Of Mine' entry... Mr Faron Hyte wrote: I got this in the mail today. I've been skipping around all afternoon, taking in the different sections, reading bits and pieces here and there, and it is absolutely terrific. Easily the best Queen discography-type work I have ever read, by far. Interesting, well-written, very accurate based on the bits I have read, very thorough, well laid out and easy to use, very readable prose style. This is basically the Queen discography book I have wanted for 20 years. This is a tremendous accomplishment and I salute the author for the hard work that went into it - all the better that its the product of one of our very own, and one of the nicer members of the forum at that. A delightful chap who doesn't type IN ALL CAPS and speak to people like garbage - but I digress. Kudos, kudos, kudos, to you, Mr. Purvis - you have done a great service to future Queen fans and compiled what will undoubtedly become one of the five indispensible Queen books that will probably ever be published. And speaking of publication, kudos to Reynolds and Hearn. Buy this, everybody, you will not be disappointed.As I said in the other review thread, thanks :) (in as many words, of course...!) |
Saint Jiub 28.02.2007 18:38 |
Hey Georg - I just pre-ordered your book at Amazon.com (along with the 2 Under review DVD's). Thanks for putting for putting me in the acknowledgements, although my help was ultimately not much help. As your book sales progress, please continue to remember the little people, and do not start typing in ALL CAPS. Mike Van aka Rip Van Winkle |
Walter B. 02.03.2007 15:14 |
I received my copy today. Well done! |
soxtalon 04.03.2007 12:46 |
I don't post much...at all...but I ordered this book and am very impressed. This is the best Queen book, i've gotten to read to be honest. Simple, informative, entertaining. Brilliant. I know some corrections have been brought up so I'm sorry if this is a duplicate but in the All the Young Dudes Song section you mistakenly credit Gary Cherone and Nuno Bettencourt with backing vocals when it should be Joe Elliot and Phil Collen. Thanks for the book though, it is phenomenal. |
rschoorl 07.03.2007 08:01 |
I got my copy a couple of weeks ago, and I must commend the author for his extreme level of detail. I also own the Bowie book and they are both fantastic reference books to have in hand. Of course the Bowie book has been updated many times and I see the same for this book as long as their is still activity in the Queen camp. With that in mind, I do have a few corrections (silly, little things) that can certainly be confirmed, but in the quest for perfection I thought I would share. Brian May's "I Don't Want Nobody Teasing Around Me" is listed as unreleased but it was released on the Japanese "Good Rocking Tonight" The group that Roger appeared with in the mid 70"s was Fox with one X The venue that Brian May played with Les Paul was called Fat Tuesday's which was a jazz club in New York City that Les Paul played at every week. I had the good fortune of being there on the night Brian played. ...and one that you will not be able to confirm, but I know as fact, is that prior to either the Day at the Races or the News of the World US tour Queen did a pre tour rehearsal in New Haven and they attempted to play "Long Away" a number of times before they gave up. I actually heard a really bad recording of it back in 1980 but I've completely lost touch with the person that made it. Again, I mean no offense by pointing out these things. I love the book and I'm still making my way through it. From a long time fan from New Jersey to one in Bucks County, thanks for writing it. |
Erin 07.03.2007 12:13 |
rschoorl wrote: The venue that Brian May played with Les Paul was called Fat Tuesday's which was a jazz club in New York City that Les Paul played at every week. I had the good fortune of being there on the night Brian played.Dang..that must've been cool. :-) |
KevoM 08.03.2007 06:25 |
Lester Have you had any feedback (ggod or bad) from anyone at Queen? I wonder how Greg Brooks feels about it? |
rschoorl 11.03.2007 09:32 |
One other small thing I found that led me to my old fan club magazines. In the write up for Drowse, you mention that the last words of the song were revealed in 1984. They were actually first mentioned in the Spring 1977 issue of the Queen fan club magazine....still the best reference book on Queen that is out there. Thanks Georg/Lester. |
Lester Burnham 11.03.2007 13:28 |
Mike Van wrote: As your book sales progress, please continue to remember the little people, and do not start typing in ALL CAPS. Mike Van aka Rip Van WinkleDon't worry, I know better than that! Walter B. wrote: I received my copy today. Well done!Thank ya, and enjoy! Paul DiNuzzo wrote: I don't post much...at all...but I ordered this book and am very impressed. This is the best Queen book, i've gotten to read to be honest. Simple, informative, entertaining. Brilliant. I know some corrections have been brought up so I'm sorry if this is a duplicate but in the All the Young Dudes Song section you mistakenly credit Gary Cherone and Nuno Bettencourt with backing vocals when it should be Joe Elliot and Phil Collen. Thanks for the book though, it is phenomenal.Ah crap. I'll get that in the next edition -- thanks for pointing that out. rschoorl wrote: corrections and stuffThanks for these, I'll make sure to fix those next edition. I'm interested in knowing more about the 'Long Away' rehearsal (I don't have my book handy, it's still sitting in a warehouse over in London), but I could've sworn I mentioned that it was rehearsed. From what you can remember, how did it sound? Was Freddie on vocals or was it Brian? (I imagine it would be Freddie, because Brian never sang lead vocals on a full song live until his solo tours.) rschoorl wrote: Again, I mean no offense by pointing out these things. I love the book and I'm still making my way through it. From a long time fan from New Jersey to one in Bucks County, thanks for writing it.No worries, glad you enjoy it! KevoM wrote: Lester Have you had any feedback (ggod or bad) from anyone at Queen? I wonder how Greg Brooks feels about it?Nope, I haven't heard anything from anyone Queen-related, and I don't really expect to. I did send some information about it being published to Brian, but he never responded (again, I wasn't expecting him to). As for how Greg feels about it, well... who knows? I doubt he's even bought it. |
Sebastian 11.03.2007 14:09 |
If it was New Haven then it's definitely 'News' rehearsals (that's where Freddie bought the piano btw). And it does make sense considering they were expanding the acoustic set (with 'Love Of My Life') and adding a track sung by Roger ('I'm In Love With My Car'). |
rschoorl 11.03.2007 16:57 |
Lester, In fact you did mention "long Away" being rehearsed before the UK tour, so my sense is that they tried before each tour that year. My memory of the tape that I heard, was that freddie was singing, but they weren't happy and more of the tape consisted of arguing than actually playing the song through....but it was a long time ago. It was recorded by a guy I knew who lived near New Haven and camped out for all the days that they rehearsed there. He was a huge Queen fan, and i remember he also had Super 8 film of Queen at Beacon theatre for the Night at the Opera tour. I unfortunately lost touch with him in the early 80"s. |
Lester Burnham 29.03.2007 13:21 |
Just an FYI that the book is finally available on the US Amazon. |
PieterMC 29.03.2007 13:22 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Just an FYI that the book is finally available on the US Amazon.$10 says that you have still not seen a copy of your own book ;-) |
Lester Burnham 29.03.2007 14:05 |
PieterMC wrote:You owe me $10, good sir! They sent me two advance copies a week or two ago, with the remaining author copies to come within the next week or two.Lester Burnham wrote: Just an FYI that the book is finally available on the US Amazon.$10 says that you have still not seen a copy of your own book ;-) |
PieterMC 29.03.2007 14:17 |
Lester Burnham wrote: You owe me $10, good sir! They sent me two advance copies a week or two ago, with the remaining author copies to come within the next week or two.Ah shit... |
Queenrockyou 30.03.2007 08:46 |
Oh damn good this book is !!!!! really not a boring one, I particularly like the part Three section that takls about the songs, released or not, solo, pre-queen played at gigs, .... really useful !! I was searching for an info in it, maybe someone or maybe the author itself could help me. I was searching about a song from the french artist "JOSE LUCAS" called "Electric Rumba (or Tour du Monde)". Brian May was said to have play on it, but I can't see this song in the book, I don't know of it was considered during the writing of this book and ignored intentionnally or if it was just not known by the author. That's important as I have this record here and I don't have a turntable, Brian May is thanked on the sleeve, but I don't know if he played in it or did something else. Maybe someone could help... thanks a lot !!!! Olivier. |
Pim Derks 01.04.2007 03:15 |
I think that was another Brian May who played on Electric Rumba. |
ern2150 03.04.2007 15:07 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Just an FYI that the book is finally available on the US Amazon.And finally available permanently attached to my hands! Help!! I can't put it down! AAAAAUGH! |
Wilki Amieva 03.04.2007 23:11 |
Would it be possible to buy the book directly from you? |
Lester Burnham 03.04.2007 23:43 |
Wilki Amieva wrote: Would it be possible to buy the book directly from you?Afraid not, I don't have the capabilities or the time to sell it myself. Maybe someday, but certainly not in the foreseeable future. And anyone who's picked up the book from the US, if you'd feel compelled to write a review for the US Amazon site, good or bad, it would be much appreciated ;) |
gastelllo 04.04.2007 12:07 |
Ordered. :) |
ern2150 05.04.2007 01:13 |
Lester Burnham wrote: And anyone who's picked up the book from the US, if you'd feel compelled to write a review for the US Amazon site, good or bad, it would be much appreciated ;)Done! |
Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 05.04.2007 12:52 |
I just got mine in the mail today. I am very impressed. I appreciate the mention of my website too! I can't wait to set aside an afternoon and give it a good read. |
Champipple 05.04.2007 14:17 |
I got a message from Amazon saying that it shipped yesterday. I really hope it comes in today so I can take it on Vacation with me next week. |
Mr Faron Hyte 05.04.2007 17:42 |
Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) wrote: I just got mine in the mail today. I am very impressed. I appreciate the mention of my website too! I can't wait to set aside an afternoon and give it a good read.You'll need more than an afternoon to read it! Its laden with Queenly goodness. |
Champipple 06.04.2007 07:58 |
Mine arrived yesterday! It's goin' to Cuba tonight for beach reading with my MP3 player full of Queen to refer to. |
rschoorl 11.04.2007 14:04 |
I was happy to see it being sold At the Barnes and Noble in Manhatten yesterday |
Pim Derks 11.04.2007 14:50 |
Has it got any info on Two Worlds Apart ? |
Hippolyte 15.04.2007 20:30 |
I just ordered my copy today and can't wait to read it. :) |
Champipple 17.04.2007 09:35 |
Hola! Got back from Cuba a couple of days ago, and I spent a lot of time with this book on the beach. I really enjoyed it! I found myself reading the album information, then reading about the tours for that album and using the song discography as a reference for the songs I really like (or dislike) and for short reading. There is a LOT of information here. A lot of stuff that I didn't know. I likey very very much! It seems well researched and in many ways facinating. I'll add though that it also kinda made me sad to think that it's over. Reading the book seemed to me like reading a history text instead of current information. No fault of the book at all, just an observation that I miss being able to read about what Queen are up to TODAY! To me, the classic Queen ended at the FM Tribute and everything since has been a postscript. The one quibble I have has to do with opinion versus fact. I don't know how to solve it, or even if it's a real problem, but I found that sometimes information slipped from fact-based to opinion-based. This was especially obvious when discussing alternative tracks that were recorded for the albums and the author's opinion about what the track-list *should* have been. This is the type of opinion that instigates debate here on Queenzone with strong opinions for and against, but putting in print in a reference book makes it seem as *fact*. Anyways, if I wrote a book I'd probably do the same thing, after all it *is* your book. :) Great job and thanks for putting in all your hard work. It was well worth the $$$s ! |
Fenderek 19.04.2007 19:07 |
It's VERY nice, I'm really impressed. Will say more after I finish it... BUT There is a mistake in my SURNAME, bastards (publishers, I think)! :) |
Michael Allred 23.04.2007 09:52 |
I ordered my copy and as soon as I finish it, I'll be right back here to chime in. |
john bodega 23.04.2007 10:53 |
Pim Derks wrote: Has it got any info on Two Worlds Apart ?Property of Queen Productions. |
Erin 23.04.2007 17:37 |
Got mine in the mail today. It looks great..very thorough and informative. Excellent work, Georg! You da man! :-) |
lillian 24.04.2007 23:49 |
i want that book:( |
Maz 25.04.2007 01:12 |
Erin wrote: Got mine in the mail today. It looks great..very thorough and informative. Excellent work, Georg! You da man! :-)Erin's said what I was going to say. A truly impressive book, to say the least. Started reading the foreword and I was pleased that this book was not written at a kindergarten level. It's about time I read an intelligent book on Queen that knows how to turn a phrase. |
Bob M 25.04.2007 05:26 |
Finished the book last night - a brilliant informative read which you can use as a reference tool or simply to immerse yourself in the history of the worlds greatest band. Well done Mr Purvis. |
PieterMC 25.04.2007 14:31 |
Easily the best Queen info book I own. Great job Lester.... |
Daniel Nester 26.04.2007 12:06 |
Great work, Lester. Got mine earlier this week. What I like the best about it is that it actually expresses some opinions -- "Coming Soon" is not the greatest Queen song, etc. -- and you put together all of those famous quotes Queen maniacs have read over and over again and combine them with others that are not-so-famous and over-used. I especially like the guest spot chapter -- there's a couple of Roger-guested things I keep reminding myself to get, and this book will help me jot things off on the list. Off to get that Al Stewart album Roger is on (WTF?)! |
The Real Wizard 27.04.2007 03:01 |
I received my copy a couple days ago, and I can't wait to read it. Lester for president! |
Michael Allred 29.04.2007 14:14 |
Well my copy of the book arrived yesterday and while I'm not ready to give a "final say" until I'm finished with it, I will say that it's been a good read overall to this point (I'm currently on the songs section) but the rehashed quotes and snippets of interviews could be boring at times and prompted me to skip forward through them. The albums section all felt like I had read them before somewhere else and at times I felt the writing was more appropriate for a fan web site than a published work. I do like the song section so far though, very breezy. |
Daniel Nester 30.04.2007 19:00 |
There are a lot of previously cited quotes from older sources, to be sure, Michael, especially for psycho fans who have everything already. What I like about Lester/Purvis's book is that it's not DoRo/Jim Jenkins-ized; that is to say, he offers context for the quotes, and actually frames some of the whole workhorse quotes and factoids as such, and he also comments on them in a critical, dispassionate way. This book will help the newbie Queen fan move from book to book and song to song, and be able to navigate the small world of Queen literature. The book is also perfectly edited -- very few typos -- which warms the cockles of this English prof! |
Michael Allred 01.05.2007 13:55 |
Daniel Nester wrote: There are a lot of previously cited quotes from older sources, to be sure, Michael, especially for psycho fans who have everything already. What I like about Lester/Purvis's book is that it's not DoRo/Jim Jenkins-ized; that is to say, he offers context for the quotes, and actually frames some of the whole workhorse quotes and factoids as such, and he also comments on them in a critical, dispassionate way. This book will help the newbie Queen fan move from book to book and song to song, and be able to navigate the small world of Queen literature. The book is also perfectly edited -- very few typos -- which warms the cockles of this English prof!Yes, perhaps this book IS more suitable for someone who knows very little of Queen but I think I set my expectations a bit too high considering the praise it's received to date. I think perhaps I had expected a little more depth to his comments but often times when I read "such and such song was better that such and such song and should have been on such and such album instead" I kept thinking "Ok, why do you think that? What's the reasoning?" |
PieterMC 02.05.2007 08:56 |
You were never gonna be happy with the book were you? |
Michael Allred 02.05.2007 09:15 |
PieterMC wrote: You were never gonna be happy with the book were you?That's right Pieter, I must hate EVERYTHING, you didn't realize that? You should really go and fuck yourself now. I'm not a damn Care Bear spreading rainbows and flowers just for you. If I have a critical thought, I'm damn well going to express it but just for shits and giggles, I'll say that I believe my comments to have validity and I'm 100% sure Georg will survive after reading them. |
PieterMC 02.05.2007 09:32 |
Michael Allred wrote: You should really go and fuck yourself now.Charming. |
Michael Allred 02.05.2007 14:03 |
PieterMC wrote:Yes, quite. Now I'll stop interrupting and let you go back to fucking yourself.Michael Allred wrote: You should really go and fuck yourself now.Charming. |
PieterMC 02.05.2007 14:25 |
Michael Allred wrote: Yes, quite. Now I'll stop interrupting and let you go back to fucking yourself.Awww... shucks.... Thanks Michael "Tenderheart" Allred..... |
PieterMC 02.05.2007 14:30 |
Good grief Lester... Your at Wal-Mart link |
Daniel Nester 02.05.2007 15:00 |
I myself invite criticism of things, but I prefer specific examples. I think there's a difference between disagreeing with reasoning and saying there's no reasoning at all. Let me practice what I preach and give you an example. I would say I disagree with Georg over his take on Hot Space. If I were writing that section, I think I would focus more on the "ahead of its time" angle, as opposed to the "huge misstep" angle that's in the Complete Works. I love, for example, "Cool Cat" with all my heart and soul -- it's frightening to hear me try to sing along with Freddie's falsetto in my car. I don't have the book here with me, but I think it gets a bad rap in the book. Fair enough. What I like about the book, however, is just that: It has freaking opinions, a voice, a point of view! Most of the Queen books are just clip-job dreck, like the Laura Jackson quickies that are glorified movies of the week. This book is far different from that. But while I think Michael has every right to offer his take, I would have preferred examples. Just one -- doesn't need to be a laundry list -- might give us a better idea of where he's coming from than a sort of veiled ad hominem. I speak as someone who has had a lot of homophobic emails--hate mail, really--after I released my two books. It's apples and organges, really, comparing my books with Georg/Lester's. But it got pretty hurtful there for awhile when I would get the odd email from Queen fans who complained about the "gay imagery" I used in my poems in the first book. That sucked big time. All I am saying is that there has to be some what to have a decent exhange of ideas here, at least among the "smart fans," about Queen-related matters, without personal insults. |
PieterMC 02.05.2007 15:39 |
Daniel Nester wrote: I speak as someone who has had a lot of homophobic emails--hate mail, really--after I released my two books.That's crazy. |
Daniel Nester 02.05.2007 15:55 |
Yeah, I was called everything from a gay-lover to a gay-basher. |
Erin 02.05.2007 22:51 |
PieterMC wrote:Tenderheart?? More like this one:Michael Allred wrote: Yes, quite. Now I'll stop interrupting and let you go back to fucking yourself.Awww... shucks.... Thanks Michael "Tenderheart" Allred..... link |
Michael Allred 04.05.2007 09:09 |
PieterMC wrote:Shouldn't you be...oh nevermind.Michael Allred wrote: Yes, quite. Now I'll stop interrupting and let you go back to fucking yourself.Awww... shucks.... Thanks Michael "Tenderheart" Allred..... |
Michael Allred 04.05.2007 09:10 |
Daniel Nester wrote: I myself invite criticism of things, but I prefer specific examples. I think there's a difference between disagreeing with reasoning and saying there's no reasoning at all. Let me practice what I preach and give you an example. I would say I disagree with Georg over his take on Hot Space. If I were writing that section, I think I would focus more on the "ahead of its time" angle, as opposed to the "huge misstep" angle that's in the Complete Works. I love, for example, "Cool Cat" with all my heart and soul -- it's frightening to hear me try to sing along with Freddie's falsetto in my car. I don't have the book here with me, but I think it gets a bad rap in the book. Fair enough. What I like about the book, however, is just that: It has freaking opinions, a voice, a point of view! Most of the Queen books are just clip-job dreck, like the Laura Jackson quickies that are glorified movies of the week. This book is far different from that. But while I think Michael has every right to offer his take, I would have preferred examples. Just one -- doesn't need to be a laundry list -- might give us a better idea of where he's coming from than a sort of veiled ad hominem. I speak as someone who has had a lot of homophobic emails--hate mail, really--after I released my two books. It's apples and organges, really, comparing my books with Georg/Lester's. But it got pretty hurtful there for awhile when I would get the odd email from Queen fans who complained about the "gay imagery" I used in my poems in the first book. That sucked big time. All I am saying is that there has to be some what to have a decent exhange of ideas here, at least among the "smart fans," about Queen-related matters, without personal insults.Wait, homophobic e-mails? For what? |
Daniel Nester 04.05.2007 10:36 |
I should have been more clear, Michael. I wasn't talking about you or anything. I was talking about my book and the feedback I got from some Queen fans in backchannel emails. It wasn't, like, a hundred of them. Just a few. But it was enough to sort of give me a chill down my spine. This was a couple of years ago, so I can talk about it now without being completely freaked out. My response was, Maybe these books aren't for you, sorry you didn't like the gay imagery and arty language. I think if I wasn't in total "book tour" mode, I would have told the emailers to eff off. All of this is to say is that although Michael's response about the Complete Works book isn't idea, it isn't on par with these emails I'm talking about. The level of discourse could be higher here, nonetheless, could be much better. |
Pim Derks 03.11.2007 12:02 |
Just got this, very impressed with it. Very well written. Though I still wonder for what I am credited in the Thanks section :D |
Lester Burnham 03.11.2007 20:57 |
Pim Derks wrote: Just got this, very impressed with it. Very well written. Though I still wonder for what I am credited in the Thanks section :DI honestly can't remember – not that what you've done didn't mean anything, just that my mind / memory has turned to crap recently and I can't remember what I had for breakfast last week, let alone what I wrote in the book over the course of six years ;) Glad you enjoy it, sir. |
steven 35638 04.11.2007 06:42 |
'Queen: Complete Works' is worth every damn penny! When I found this at a local book store I literally screamed like a little girl, and without hesitation I bought it. When I looked up who the author was, I couldn't believe it was the guy on Queenzone. Anyway, I've read the book thoroughly and it is definetly the most reliable book on Queen out there. Great work, Lester! I'll buy any book you write, even if it isn't Queen related. |
steven 35638 04.11.2007 06:42 |
*double post* |
Daniel Nester 07.11.2007 18:56 |
It really is an essential addition to any Queen fan's bookshelf. I can't say that for the Laura Jackson or even the Rick Sky book, although the latter was one of the first bio-books to come out and of course I snapped it up the second it came out. I do still wish there were more books that had a more serious, first-person point of view on Queen. I am a big fan of the 33 1/3 series: link And I just wish they had one for, say, ANATO or NOTW. Maybe someday. Lord knows I tried to do one. |
Lester Burnham 07.11.2007 20:20 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I'll buy any book you write, even if it isn't Queen related.Then it's worth mentioning that I'm working on two new reference-type books, the first of which is about Elvis Costello (tentatively titled "Between Wisdom & Murder: An Elvis Costello Encyclopedia") and should be near completion sometime within a year or so. The next will be about The Who, title to be determined. After that, I'll probably get around to having my first novel, which I've been working on for a few years, published. And, as ever, work on my Milli Vanilli book continues at a healthy rate... |
Benn 08.11.2007 06:16 |
Hi Lester, If you need any assistance with The Who book, let me know - I'd be glad to help! |
Mr Mercury 08.11.2007 08:51 |
Lester Burnham wrote: And, as ever, work on my Milli Vanilli book continues at a healthy rate...Glad to hear it Lester, but dont forget to mention how they continually managed to hit those top C notes on a regular basis. |
Dusta 08.11.2007 19:03 |
I'll agree. I read it, cover to cover, then, have gone BACK, to reference specific songs, etc. Worth every penny, and, my favorite of the three Queen books read thus far.
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: 'Queen: Complete Works' is worth every damn penny! When I found this at a local book store I literally screamed like a little girl, and without hesitation I bought it. When I looked up who the author was, I couldn't believe it was the guy on Queenzone. Anyway, I've read the book thoroughly and it is definetly the most reliable book on Queen out there. Great work, Lester! I'll buy any book you write, even if it isn't Queen related. |
gnomo 15.11.2007 12:10 |
Came home from work yesterday 10:00 PM; found the book in the mail; immediately gave it a very quick browse, just to get the flavour of it; closed it with the feeling I hadn't even begun to scratch the surface: clock read 2:30 AM... :-D It's MASSIVE!!! Of course it must be, being about Queen, but I did not expect it to be SO huge, and SO broad in its coverage, and SO packed full of detailed (and well-documented) information. Amazingly well done, Lester! Infinitely grateful: I am sure it will remain my main reference about Queen for quite a long time. Wondering how long it will take me to read from cover to cover, though: the full Lord Of The Rings trilogy kept me busy for a week, but this one looks tougher, and more exciting... :-P |
Dusta 16.11.2007 13:08 |
Yes, I'll admit that I, too, squealed like a girl when I got mine!
I read The Hobbit, and, the subsequet trilogy in the summer between fifth and sixth grade...I could not put them down, and, often read them under the covers at night with a flashlight. Matter of fact, hearing, "Killer Queen," always makes me think of Bilbo Baggins, since that song was playing a great deal on the radio whilst I was transported to The Shire.
Though, as a grown up, I found I could no longer make it through the LOTR books, I had no trouble whatever delving into Mr Purvis' treasure!!gnomo wrote: Came home from work yesterday 10:00 PM; found the book in the mail; immediately gave it a very quick browse, just to get the flavour of it; closed it with the feeling I hadn't even begun to scratch the surface: clock read 2:30 AM... :-D It's MASSIVE!!! Of course it must be, being about Queen, but I did not expect it to be SO huge, and SO broad in its coverage, and SO packed full of detailed (and well-documented) information. Amazingly well done, Lester! Infinitely grateful: I am sure it will remain my main reference about Queen for quite a long time. Wondering how long it will take me to read from cover to cover, though: the full Lord Of The Rings trilogy kept me busy for a week, but this one looks tougher, and more exciting... :-P |
Lester Burnham 20.11.2007 11:43 |
Shameless plug: The holiday season is coming up, and this book would be perfect for any Queen fan in the family ;) |
Erin 20.11.2007 12:06 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Shameless plug: The holiday season is coming up, and this book would be perfect for any Queen fan in the family ;)One: Put the book in the box. Two: Put a bow on that box. Three: Make 'em open the box. And that's the way you do it, Lester's book in a box! |