| kirkpatrickuk 26.10.2006 10:35 |
I find it quite disturbing to read all of this mud slinging and abuse that mainly seems to come from "Queen Archivist" towards John S Stuart. I've been an avid user of this site for years and I feel that the tone has been lowered. John S Stuart has been a fantastic source of information to many people over the years and cant really be knocked for it. Frankly, I've never believed that "Queen Archivist" is the real Greg Brooks. I've worked in the music business for years and people with Queen Archivist's attitude (childish and immature)wouldn't have a chance of getting anywhere and certainly aren't tolerated. I would doubt if a man like Brian May would want to work closely with someone like Q.A. I dont know if anyone else feels the same as me but isn't about time we all just discussed our common inerest - Queen? One of the problem with the internet is identity theft (as BM recently pointed out). We could all pretend to be Greg Brooks couldn't we? |
| The Fake Greg Brooks 26.10.2006 12:26 |
Who would want to pretend to be Greg Brooks? Oh, whoops! |
| Rien 26.10.2006 13:12 |
At the last Dutch Queen meeting on October 21st I asked Greg Brooks if he was the Queen Archivist on Queenzone. He told me he indeed was Queen Archivist. (As YourValentine has told us before) But it's very easy to create a nickname that's very similar to Queen Archivist. I take little notice of the debates between Greg and John on Queenzone so I don't take one's side in this. I have talked with Greg and he seems okay to me. I've read John's posts about Queen material and have had some mail contact with him. He seems okay to me too. |
| .Jony. 26.10.2006 13:20 |
I've read massages from both parties (meaning: Greg versus basically the whole board) ridiculous threads like this one make my blood boil I absolute despise the massive aggressivness against the man who was the driving force behind many Queen releases. I can't believe that grown up people with a job like Togg can act like such a dick. I think greg is really polite and reasonable considering the shit he gets thrown at him. me, I wouldn't be so polite. |
| The Leader 26.10.2006 13:25 |
Gregie boy rulez!!! He is such a cutie... Fred would have loved to fuck him... well at least once! |
| Queen Archivist 26.10.2006 13:39 |
To Jony... I absolute despise the massive aggressivness against the man who was the driving force behind many Queen releases. WELL DONE MATE. I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE. GOOD FOR YOU; SOMEONE WHO SEES THE BIGGER PICTURE. AT LAST A PERSON WITH SENSE - AND AN EXCEPTIONAL JUDGE OF CHARACTER TOO!! I think greg is really polite and reasonable considering the shit he gets thrown at him. me, I wouldn't be so polite QUITE RIGHT. WELL SAID. WE'VE NEVER MET, JONY, HAVE WE???? BUT CONSIDER YOURSELF OWED A SHANDY OR TWO. WHAT A FINE UPSTANDING AND SENSIBLE PERSON YOU ARE. YOU AND ME ARE IN A MINORITY THOUGH! |
| Queen Archivist 26.10.2006 13:40 |
Gregie boy rulez!!! He is such a cutie. THIS IS TRUE ALSO. |
| Queen Archivist 26.10.2006 13:44 |
I find Greg to be a really nice bloke and very willing to talk about things as long as it's away from the QZ lunatic asylum. I think Greg is an exceptionally talented young man - he's 40 but only looks 34 - and I wish that more of you people could meet him and see what joy and laughs and sunshine he brings with him wherever he is. He is a total sweetie pie lovely handsome and generally great individual. THIS IS TRUE AS WELL. THANKS MUM. |
| Donna13 26.10.2006 14:02 |
"I find Greg to be a really nice bloke and very willing to talk about things as long as it's away from the QZ lunatic asylum. I think Greg is an exceptionally talented young man - he's 40 but only looks 34 - and I wish that more of you people could meet him and see what joy and laughs and sunshine he brings with him wherever he is. He is a total sweetie pie lovely handsome and generally great individual." Dear Mrs. Brooks, Thank you for doing such a good job raising Greg. We all appreciate the hard work you put into that challenging job. I hope you visit us again soon. Love, Donna |
| The Leader 26.10.2006 14:37 |
Queen Archivist wrote: ..THIS IS TRUE AS WELL. THANKS MUM.Told ya guys and gals... he´s a motherfucker!!! |
| .Jony. 26.10.2006 14:42 |
Queen Archivist wrote: To Jony... I absolute despise the massive aggressivness against the man who was the driving force behind many Queen releases. WELL DONE MATE. I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE. GOOD FOR YOU; SOMEONE WHO SEES THE BIGGER PICTURE. AT LAST A PERSON WITH SENSE - AND AN EXCEPTIONAL JUDGE OF CHARACTER TOO!! I think greg is really polite and reasonable considering the shit he gets thrown at him. me, I wouldn't be so polite QUITE RIGHT. WELL SAID. WE'VE NEVER MET, JONY, HAVE WE???? BUT CONSIDER YOURSELF OWED A SHANDY OR TWO. WHAT A FINE UPSTANDING AND SENSIBLE PERSON YOU ARE. YOU AND ME ARE IN A MINORITY THOUGH!no, we've never met I'm actually a QOL regular. did you know that JSS even comes there, bringing his unwanted message of pure arrogance and hate? it's at that point that I became curious and decided to have a look around here. I'm mesmerized by all this arrogance. how can you cope with all this shit? believe me, I have been on the recieving end of much much flack on QOL. I know the drill. these guys just love to fight and feel important because they have just slagged off the Queen archivist. they must have small dicks I guess hell, I'm sure they would even slag off brian if he would post here. would make them feel so important. well guess what, unfortunately for them I noticed. they will all soon know why I recieve much flack on QOL |
| Rien 26.10.2006 17:13 |
And I thought this was the Serious Discussion board... |
| Mike Label 26.10.2006 17:39 |
"It won´t get any better than this!" - Can it get worse? |
| Ale_Pisa 26.10.2006 17:57 |
Greg and John are two faces of the same medal! :) |
| Togg 27.10.2006 08:48 |
Rien wrote: And I thought this was the Serious Discussion board...Lol, don't worry Half term is nearly over and they will all soon be back in their classes. |
| Fireplace 27.10.2006 11:09 |
young_strat_man wrote: Look Gregory. Stop your childish, good for nothing, moronic rants on QZ! You want everyone on your side, or there will be HELL to pay! Correct?? Ok... HEIL HITLER! MEIN FUHRER!I'm sure if your beloved Nazi's came back to power you'd be the first to go up against the wall. Your attitude is disgusting, as is everyone pretending to be in charge of this board while condoning your Nazi propaganda. |
| Queen Archivist 27.10.2006 18:56 |
Good evening to you DONNA13. It's Greg's mum Mrs Brooks here. ******* Dear Mrs. Brooks, Thank you for doing such a good job raising Greg. We all appreciate the hard work you put into that challenging job. I hope you visit us again soon. Love, Donna ******* DEAREST DONNA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN MY SON, GREG, AND I FOR TEA THIS COMING SUNDAY EVENING? WE WILL BE PARTAKING OF CUCUMBER AND SALMON SANDWICHES, JELLY AND ICE CREAM, AND IT WILL BE SPLENDID. YOU WILL BE MOST WELCOME. ANYONE WHO HAS NICE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT MY LOVELY BOY GREG, IS CLEARLY A VERY INTELLIGENT PERSON WITH ASTUTE JUDGEMENT OF CHARACTER, AND I'D LOVE YOU TO COME TO MY HOME (A LITTLE COTTAGE) AND HAVE A LOVELY TIME. I'LL MAKE RASPBERRY TRIFLE TOO. ARE YOU ALLERGIC TO NUTS? AND... BY THE WAY... THOSE ON QZ WHO HAVE BEEN VILE AND INSULTING AND GENERALLY BEASTLY TO MY GREG, SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES... ESPECIALLY THE STRAT_MAN... WHO LOOKS TO BE A PROPER LITTLE TURD... OOOOH, PLEASE EXCUSE ME. THAT WORD JUST SLIPPED OUT. I 'DON'T USUSALLY USE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK YOU'LL AGREE THAT YOUNG_TWAT_MAN (AS GREG CALLS HIM) IS CERTAINLY IN A SIMILIAR INTELLECTUAL LEAGUE AS A HUMAN TURD. ANYWAY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU DEAR DONNA13. PLEASE FEEL FREEE TO BRING A CHUM. AND BE PROMPT FOR 6.15 BECAUSE I MUSTN'T MISS ANTIQUES ROADSHOW, DEAR. SORRY TO WRITE IN BIG LETTERS, DEARS... I'M A BIT DEAF. I SAID, I'M A BIT DEAF. LOVE TO YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS ALL BUT THAT YSM WEIRDO. MRS BROOKS |
| Donna13 28.10.2006 23:25 |
DEAREST DONNA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN MY SON, GREG, AND I FOR TEA THIS COMING SUNDAY EVENING? - I would love to. I really really cannot think of anything I would rather do, and therefore it is so sad for me to tell you that I have to stay here in Virginia and give my dogs a bath on Sunday evening. You see, the vet is coming next week and I don't want her to think I'm a bad owner. Besides my previous (soapy and wet) commitment, I have recently let my passport expire (oooh - a bad thing to do, I think). I will have to write to the State Dept. about that little problem as soon as possible. WE WILL BE PARTAKING OF CUCUMBER AND SALMON SANDWICHES, JELLY AND ICE CREAM, AND IT WILL BE SPLENDID. YOU WILL BE MOST WELCOME. -Mmmm. That does sound yummy, Mrs. Brooks. ANYONE WHO HAS NICE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT MY LOVELY BOY GREG, IS CLEARLY A VERY INTELLIGENT PERSON WITH ASTUTE JUDGEMENT OF CHARACTER, AND I'D LOVE YOU TO COME TO MY HOME (A LITTLE COTTAGE) AND HAVE A LOVELY TIME. I'LL MAKE RASPBERRY TRIFLE TOO. ARE YOU ALLERGIC TO NUTS? - No, I'm not allergic to nuts (thank you for asking), however, my judgement of character can be slightly off sometimes - but sometimes it can be really "spot on" - then off, then on. But you know how that can be. I just rely on my intuition most of the time ... and I am thankful for a little divine intervention on occasion (whether or not I ask for it, and I usually don't ask for it). I'm sure you know what I mean, Mrs. Brooks. Oh, and I hope to see your cottage another time. It must be very beautiful. AND... BY THE WAY... THOSE ON QZ WHO HAVE BEEN VILE AND INSULTING AND GENERALLY BEASTLY TO MY GREG, SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES... ESPECIALLY THE STRAT_MAN... WHO LOOKS TO BE A PROPER LITTLE TURD... OOOOH, PLEASE EXCUSE ME. THAT WORD JUST SLIPPED OUT. I 'DON'T USUSALLY USE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK YOU'LL AGREE THAT YOUNG_TWAT_MAN (AS GREG CALLS HIM) IS CERTAINLY IN A SIMILIAR INTELLECTUAL LEAGUE AS A HUMAN TURD. - Bless you, dear. Would you like some smelling salts? ANYWAY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU DEAR DONNA13. PLEASE FEEL FREEE TO BRING A CHUM. AND BE PROMPT FOR 6.15 BECAUSE I MUSTN'T MISS ANTIQUES ROADSHOW, DEAR. - I'm terribly sorry I can't make it this time, but I do hope you will invite me again. Enjoy your antiques show! Maybe Greg can bring you your ice cream in front of the TV and you can put your feet up! (Or do they not do that in a proper British household?) SORRY TO WRITE IN BIG LETTERS, DEARS... I'M A BIT DEAF. I SAID, I'M A BIT DEAF. - Yes. LOVE TO YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS ALL BUT THAT YSM WEIRDO. MRS BROOKS - Thank you so much Mrs. Brooks. It was lovely to hear from you again. Take care. Love, Donna |
| Leaky Luke 29.10.2006 08:59 |
This is getting pathetic. Do we really have to raise a person's status up at this place. John and Greg both did good things and perhaps bad things, they are both human beings with their opinion about things. There is no reason to build up a propaganda to each side to make the person more loveable at this website. |
| Donna13 29.10.2006 10:23 |
The Asassinator wrote: This is getting pathetic. Do we really have to raise a person's status up at this place. John and Greg both did good things and perhaps bad things, they are both human beings with their opinion about things. There is no reason to build up a propaganda to each side to make the person more loveable at this website.I agree. And I think we can all agree that both John and Greg are already loveable enough!!! So, maybe they (and we) can now get back to a more loveable conversation about Queen. |
| Queen Archivist 29.10.2006 21:43 |
Nice one Donna. You have a great sense of humour - something so inexplicably lacking on this site. Good on ya. GB (and his deaf mum) |
| Queen Archivist 29.10.2006 21:48 |
Jony... no, we've never met I'm actually a QOL regular. did you know that JSS even comes there, bringing his unwanted message of pure arrogance and hate? it's at that point that I became curious and decided to have a look around here. I'm mesmerized by all this arrogance. how can you cope with all this shit? believe me, I have been on the recieving end of much much flack on QOL. I know the drill. these guys just love to fight and feel important because they have just slagged off the Queen archivist. they must have small dicks I guess hell, I'm sure they would even slag off brian if he would post here. would make them feel so important. well guess what, unfortunately for them I noticed. they will all soon know why I recieve much flack on QOL GB: I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. WELL SAID INDEED. ******* To (Sensei) ALE... I hope you saw my reply to you on another thread... you sound like a very fine chap. Page 3 of the thread called - MY QUEEN LIVE BOOK.... AGAIN, AND OTHER ISSUE Regards |
| Donna13 29.10.2006 22:31 |
Queen Archivist wrote: Nice one Donna. You have a great sense of humour - something so inexplicably lacking on this site. Good on ya. GB (and his deaf mum)Shouldn't you go to bed now, Greg? (I mean, since you are getting over the flu). What is it - apples and pears? I don't get the apples part. Oh, well. Good night, Greg. |
| Lester Burnham 29.10.2006 22:37 |
Cockney rhyming slang - it's kind of a fun little thing (yes, I'm American, but I read British books, and I look out for these things). For instance... I've got to go to the Gary. Gary means "Gary Glitter". What does "glitter" rhyme with? Exactly. |
| John S Stuart 30.10.2006 04:25 |
Queen Archivist wrote: I'm actually a QOL regular. did you know that JSS even comes there, bringing his unwanted message of pure arrogance and hate?Greg: On one hand you claim to be a victim of anti-Queenzone sentiment. You claim that there should be moderation in Queenzone, and you also expect freedom to be treated with respect, but, on the other hand you have done everything to try and belittle me at every opportunity. You begin numerous anti-threads in my name, you tried to belittle the frequency of my postings - before it was pointed out that you too had posted just as often. Finally, you even (incorrectly) had a pop at my literacy skills. Can I point out that I do not spread HATE either here or Queenonline. (Besides Queenonline is so heavilly moderated I would think it would be impossible for any negative message to survive in any form). I accept you may disagree with me, and that I may not top your Christmas card list - but hate - no. Please play fair, as you can not expect to receive on one hand, that which you do not preach on the other. My best wishes etc... |
| Queen Archivist 30.10.2006 06:29 |
John SS. Please go away and leave the threads which I begin alone. All you do is come in a try to bring them down with your same old tired agenda because you perceive me as stealin your thunder. You are 100% wrong about my presence on QZ, compared to your GIANT and COLOSSAL presence. You have OVER FOUR THOUSAND thread participations in your name, while mine is less than 200. 4000 v 190 is very clearly NOT equal. What a ridiculous comment. It shows how emberrassed you must be by that vast difference. It further shows the mammoth time you spend here rather than with the wonderful family you tell us you enjoy. QZ is literally riddled with your comments. THOUSANDS of them absolutely everywhere. i noticed 7 postings in a row, one after the other, yesterday. You just kept going on and on and on. It was relentless. It was seriously RELENTLESS. Over FOUR THOUSAND of them. You are one of the main participants of QZ whereas I only come on every now and then. This last week, while I was laid up in bed, was a rarity. NEVER have I done that before, as all QZ know very well. Whereas you are here EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR LIFE, and I'm not remotely exaggerating. Stop hijacking threads just to be further negative. We are trying to get to a better place. Also... my commenting about your punctuation was tongue in cheek, you silly man. Where is your sense of humour? My spelling is abysmal. I know that. I'm in no poition to seriously criticise - but only to do so in fun. I was joking with you, you miserable git. This is partly why it' such a huge chore trying to get thru to you. It's a futile exercise John. PLEASE leave my threads alone because you genuinely do irritate the hell out of me, as well as INCREASINGLY several other QZ-ers too, who have said as much, but you ignore them. You do not understand me. You have a limited sense of humour, and you are resentful and probably jealous, or some such hidden reason, and it really shows. How about you don't pollute my threads, those which I start, and I will do the same thing by leaving yours alone. We don't get on. We never will. You are the most irritating man I know. That's not insulting for insulting sake; it's genuinely a fact. Let's agree to not converse. It's sensible and long overdue. |
| John S Stuart 30.10.2006 07:01 |
C'est la vie. |
| YourValentine 30.10.2006 08:14 |
You are a bully, Greg. Just read your post - incredible. Like a school yard bully. I have not seen any other Queenzoners ask John to stay away from ANY threads, you won't succeed in ganging up on him. Next week you'll get bored and find another toy and QZ will return to normal. John Stuart will still be here and he will still share his knowledge and he will still be a respected member of QZ. |
| Queen Archivist 30.10.2006 11:14 |
Barbara YourValentine... You like John. You regard him as a friend. I don't. He and I cannot get on. You should keep your personal overview of him away from how you view HIM AND ME. Can't you view it impartially just for one day, one thread? You know that he and I only wind each other up and that QZ-ers have to read the tedious rubbish he and I exchange. I have suggested he keep out of my stuff, and I do the same for him, and thereby save all the nonsense - best for all concerned... and even you. If this common sense suggestion appears to you as bullying, you have an uncommon idea of what a bully is. Would you prefer, YV, he and I to bicker endlessly, and clutter your site with the same old stuff, or instead agree to disagree and go separate ways? There is no pleasing you YV. You have made my sitution with John, and his with me, YOUR personal mission, but it's not. With respect, it has nothing to do with you. You are poking your nose into a private issue between 2 people, and not even being balanced about it. I don't want to talk further with John. Life is too short and whether you believe it or not he WILL NOT ever tell it like it is. He only gives an edited version which makes him seem like the victim, and me, or others that oppose his views, as the bully, and you fall for it. You are easily manipulated YV. Please stop to consider this possibility. I have met with John, spoke to him in person. Have you????? Have you done that Barbara???? I have tried to get along with John, but i smply cannot. It would possibly be in my interest to, but still I cannot. Furthermore, other QZ-ers see exactly my point. I am NOT alone in this. Others too find him utterly infuriating. You have to recognise this, albeit he is a friend of yours. My message to him is NOT incredible. It is a common sense solution. You seem to love anything at all that i say, that gives you an option to verbally attack again. Yes John is a respected member of QZ, and so on. I never questioned that. I just said, asked him, to please not write to me any more, for good reasons. The ganging up on him thing, IS incredible. All you are doing is exactly what John wants you to do. Like I say, you are being manipulated - even in the way you respond to my comments, shows this. Barbara... if 12 people all told you this, you would not listen. You are so entrenched with your irritation of me that you have a blind side. |
| Queen Archivist 30.10.2006 11:21 |
YV... "You won't succeed in ganging up on him." OK BARB. I WON'T GANG UP ON HIM AGAIN. POOR JOHN... GREG BROOKS GANGING UP ON HIM ALL THE TIME. LUCKY HE HAS YOU TO RESCUE HIM ALL THE TIME IN YOUR BALANCED AND IMPARTIAL WAY. YWAN YAWN. Next week you'll get bored and find another toy and QZ will return to normal. HOW EXCITING FOR YOU ALL. John Stuart will still be here OH YES, YOU CAN BET ON THAT. YOU CAN BET YOUR HOUSE ON THAT. JOHN WILL BE IN QZ NEXT WEEK, EVERY SINGLE DAY. HE COULD NOT WALK AWAY, EVEN FOR A MONTH, EVEN IF HE WANTED TO. HE NEEDS YOUR APPROVAL TOO MUCH BARB... AND YOU RUSH IN AND GIVE IT, RIGHT ON CUE EVERY TIME. and he will still share his knowledge YES BARB. YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND I AM ALWAYS WRONG. I WISH I COULD UNDERTAND JOHN LIKE YOU OBVIOUSLY DO. and he will still be a respected member of QZ. YES BARB. JOHN IS GREATLY RESPECTED. A GREATLY RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE QZ COMMUNITY. JOHN IS VERY MUCH RESPECTED AND I AM NOT. I KNOW. YOU ARE RIGHT. I MUST WRITE 100 TIMES, JOHN IS A RESPECTED MEMBER OF QZ... CHANGE YOUR RECORD FROM TIME TO TIME, YV. THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE. BE COMPLETELY IMPARTIAL AND BALANCED, WHETHER YOUR WRITING ABOUT A FRIEND, DISLIKED ARCHIVIST, OR WHOMEVER. AND DON'T BE SO EASILY MANIPULATED LIKE YOU ARE. |
| Togg 30.10.2006 11:51 |
To throw my two pennies in here... I would say that I personally feel Greg's suggestion to effectively stay away from each others threads seems the most sensible solution, so long as you both do that. It is obvious that the two of them are not going to get along so why bother trying? I realise that I may get a choice selection of mud thrown at me for this as I too have on many occasions attacked Greg for his comments, however, over the past few days he and I seem to have reached a point where we can communicate well, and I think Queenzone would benefit from him being around so long as he communicates in the way he has been recently (to me at least) Both have a lot to offer in different ways, but the bickering needs to stop, we all love Queen here so there is common ground, can we not try to make it happen. I have enjoyed speaking to Greg recently and have been interested in his recent threads, I realise that I have been the one to attack him on several occasions but not without cause (I my view at least) If we can put that behind us I would hope others can too, we can all benefit from communication between Greg/John and Queenzone so it seems sensible to try. It may not last but it's worth a go, I have been guilty of prejudging him too often over recent months so for that I am sorry, I have also seen some stupid comments from both sides, but at the end of the day it would be of benefit to all of us if we can all communicate in a more positive adult way. Greg annoys the hell out of me from time to time, but I am sure I do the same to others so what the hell does it matter. Queenzone is a great place to come and discuss the band we love, what a shame it is that the only official QP member on here cannot communicate effectively here, for whatever reason whomever's fault, lets MOVE ON. |
| YourValentine 30.10.2006 11:54 |
You can switch the truth as long as you want but we all have seen that John has tried everything to avoid fights but you keep insulting him. You say it's not my business but that is wrong. I am a regular poster here and I care about the board. No, I never saw John Stuart and he is not my friend. He is a person who happens to share the same hobby and I enjoy what he has to contribute which is a lot. He has always been polite and friendly to me and that is all I need to know on the internet. If you do not want me to meddle into what is your private issue with John - then PLEASE DO NOT take it to this message board. I cannot believe that a grown up person is totally unable to distinguish between personal and factual issues. Maybe you think it's all that funny and sometimes it is but mostly it's just annoying. It's cool when you answer some questions as you did lately but that is tainted by your incredibly immature attitude. A message board is an open forum and all members post where they want. You do not tell people to stay out of certain threads - a thread is open for everybody to join the dicussion. Also, the website is the property of Richard and we are all guests here. You would not carry your personal fights into the living room of someone else, would you? So, if you have an issue with John I recommend you solve it in a private email. |
| Queen Archivist 30.10.2006 13:10 |
YV. You ignored the main and sensible point I made. JSS and I don't along, so I suggest we avoid each other. It's very simple. Everyone on QZ would then be spared our bring exchanges. It's not deep or profound, just sensible. you will never ever ever ever agree with me anything to do with John because, as you say, he's always been polite to you, and an informative with Queen info - which Iwould not doubt. But it's totally irrelevant to the main point. You are an intelligent person but with an incredible reluctance to widen your thinking to see my perspective. It's just not in you. You are unable to simply be 100% impartial, and until you can be that your replies to me will lack that element of common sense. You make good valid points, but always there is that conspicuous absence of total impartiality which would give your comments a fair balance. I see other QZ-ers willing to say things that might not be conducive to supporting their respected fellows or friends, but they say it because it's the whole rounded truth. You never approach my comments, Barbara, in exactly the same unbiassed way, and attitude, that you approach other peoples' comments. If you did we would make much better progress. I think that you genuinely believe you are impartial; that you treat me like everyone else, but the evidence does not support this. Just look at your review of the Freddie book. you did not approach that as you would approach a book compiled by John Stuart. You would never ever in this world say that John's work is utterly useless. Come on now, admit it. If you will be big enough to admit this, then that is a clear illustration of you NOT being impartial, but weighted against me. Think about it. You just don't like me, or dislike me, but you approach me with an attitude that effects your comments. |
| MDNA 30.10.2006 13:25 |
Just my oppinion, but total imparciality as you define it is impossible in my oppinion. And I do agree with YV for that matter. |
| Micrówave 30.10.2006 13:30 |
Well, here's my view: I think the bickering should continue. It can be, at times, quite funny. I'm still laughing at the "John SS" comment. I have come to enjoy both John's and Greg's posts. I think I "get" their humor. It would be pretty boring if they were a couple of Queen nerds talking about B-sides from the basement of the science building. Keep slogging away, boys!!! I really don't think they hate each other. It's more like Felix and Oscar. Hello Fatty???? The Odd Couple in the Queen Archive room???? I don't know if you take requests... |
| Queen Archivist 30.10.2006 13:39 |
MDNA... "And I do agree with YV for that matter." A MASSIVE SURPRISE THERE. |
| MDNA 30.10.2006 13:49 |
Queen Archivist wrote: MDNA... "And I do agree with YV for that matter." A MASSIVE SURPRISE THERE.This reply only came to confirm something I already bellieved to be true, you totaly disregard any apinions that are contrary to yours, regardless of the subject. And furthermore are completely unable to take bad criticism for your work (and I'm not refering to the pseudo critics that are not more than a list of insults, but rather honest and constructive critics) There is one question I would like to se answered though, was your Queen live book published in Portugal? I have heard so much about it (both good and bad) that I am curious to actualy read it. |
| Leaky Luke 30.10.2006 14:27 |
There is absulotely no way to let it all rest is there... John posts something, greg posts a firing post towards John, all the people take sides again.. Pathetic. |
| John S Stuart 30.10.2006 16:40 |
Just a few interesting notes... |
| John S Stuart 30.10.2006 16:42 |
Greg: I have tried, I have really tried to avoid confrontation, but I am fed up with your constant lies, innuendos and childish name calling.
You do NOT know me. So please do not say that you do. I know my Doctor better than I do you - and I really do not know him at all - as I only see him once every few years!
We met very briefly c6 years ago, and most of that time was spent watching a movie. Now, you wish to create the impression that I am all about hate, Jealousy and a bitter individual.
This is so untrue, and ironic, because all you charge against me - is what you project about yourself.
John S Stuart wrote:
You begin numerous anti-threads in my name, you tried to belittle the FREQUENCY of my postings - before it was pointed out that you too had posted just as often. Finally, you even (incorrectly) had a pop at my literacy skills.
John S Stuart wrote: If I take the number of my posts (3024), and divide that by the number of days I have been registered (1922), you will see that this works out at an average of 1.573 postings ...per day... YOU registered on Thursday, May 25, 2006, and have posted 215 mails during a 156 day period. This means that you too post on average 1.4 mails per day also.FREQUENCY has NOTHING to do with VOLUME. I may have posted more mails, but at present we both post around 1.5 mails per day. Queen Archivist wrote: 4000 v 190 is very clearly NOT equal. What a ridiculous comment. It shows how emberrassed you must be by that vast difference. It further shows the mammoth time you spend here rather than with the wonderful family you tell us you enjoy. Queen Archivist wrote: GB: You are correct that the spelling is 'holier', but you are wrong about the question mark. I referred to YOU as 'John holier than thou Stuart'. This is clearly NOT a question. Only questions end with a question mark. If you're going to correct me, which is fine, get it right matey. John S Stuart wrote: So to correct YOU once MORE, what YOU SHOULD have CORRECTLY written was:I say there, John HOLIER than thou S. Stuart.... YOU KNOW WHEN you wrote... "As long as I have my loving wife, family and a fantastic job to surround me, this Queen malarkey is nothing but a passing interest."?This is because the phrase "You know when...?" is rhetorical and suggests (but may not expect) an answer. As such, the correct punctuation is indeed a question mark - even if that question mark is outside my original quotation - as it demonstrates how you have modified to suit your own needs. Queen Archivist wrote: Also... my commenting about your punctuation was tongue in cheek, you silly man. Where is your sense of humour? My spelling is abysmal. I know that. I'm in no poition to seriously criticise - but only to do so in fun. I was joking with you, you miserable git...Oh yes very funny - ha, ha!! That was supposed to be a joke was it? Oh yes. I must have forgot to laugh. Nothing but more lies designed to make you look good at the expense of someone else. You then give advice to some young man because he disagrees with you. Queen Archivist wrote: WilliamFraser, you are a mean spirited sod... How about raising your game, you nasty sod?Greg, how about you raising your game? How about you saying something positive for a change? I really do not understand why you need to be so negative. You do know that if you would just let go of all that negative energy, you will live longer? |
| Fireplace 30.10.2006 17:03 |
John S Stuart wrote: I really do not understand why you are so negative. You do know that if you would just let go of all that negative energy, you will live longer?Did you HAVE to share that with him? |
| Bobby_brown 30.10.2006 18:02 |
MDNA wrote: There is one question I would like to se answered though, was your Queen live book published in Portugal? I have heard so much about it (both good and bad) that I am curious to actualy read it.Yes it was. I bought that book around 1995/96 and it still is my favourite of all Queen books. Apart from the set lists, for me the Bootleg reviews at the end of the book were priceless! It made me want to buy "the Creme de la Creme" of all bootlegs (as Greg names it!) "Opera Omnia" wich unfortunelly i never did (I have the mp3 now), and most important - it made me avoid some bootlegs, because now i could compare the dates of the shows with the dates and venues on the bootlegs. So, i´ve found - and still find- the book very interesting and informative. It made me realize that i wasn´t alone in my obsession for Queen (this was before the internet- at least for me!). Take care |
| MDNA 31.10.2006 04:44 |
Thanks Bobby for your kind answer. As for Opera Omnia being the Creme de la Creme of Queen Bootlegs I must disagree. It is only a 4 (?) disc compilation of songs played live bu Queen. I'm not even sure it includes date and venue for all those performances. I much prefer to have complete concerts (Japanese bootlegs being the best in my oppinion). And to make things clear, I absolutely believe that his book when first published was no doubt the best that could be done at the time, and credit has to be given to him for undertaking that mamoth task. What people don't accept so easaly is that he allowed a "revised edition" to be issued without making sure that at least correcting all the information that was proved to be incorrect. |
| Queen Archivist 31.10.2006 10:03 |
John (Stuart)... I'm not going to read all that stuff you pasted. Sorry, but I really honestly have no interest for the reasons I carefully outlined yesterday. I started to read it, got to the third sentence then lost interest. I thought, "Why am I reading this? It's repetitive. John has said ALL this before. Nothing new. Same old tone and direction. just skip this and read something else." I felt immediately that it was right for me. I don't think you are all about hate and bitterness. I never said that. I just said PART of you is envious, jealous, bitter (call it whatever you will)... and that definitely is the case. You also are economical with the truth... that is one million percent true, and I don't care who thinks otherwise. I have had 10 years-odd email with you, telephone calls, and I met you in person. I base my opinion on a VERY FAIR ten year overview and history. You are a very knowledgeable chap. A good Queen fan. But I cannot get along with you for the reasons I also carefully outlined. You can write a reply if you like, but with respect I will not be reading it. You may think that childish, and perhaps it is, but it will be best for me personally, because you so frequently get up my nose. You have a rare knack. I think it's best all round. I further suggest you'd do much better not reading my stuff either. Less stress and annoyance for you too. You will only take bits of it wrongly, as always, and it's all so tedious for everyone - you too, and especially me. I just can't ever get through to you, penetrate your inpenetratable thick and closed to my perspective skin. I know that I never will. I no longer feel the vaguest inclination to try. I just want a peaceful-ish existence on the rare times I come to QZ, and that means not trying to get thru to you. I'm back to work this week, listening to the Queen live tapes - which need thorough logging. This will occupy me for several weeks, and I find it HUGELY theraputic, as well as fascinating. This is a better way for me to spend my time, I think you will agree, than instead bickering with you and getting nowhere fast. I'm sure QZ-ers would prefer this too. I wish you well. Genuinely. |
| Queen Archivist 31.10.2006 10:05 |
I spelt inpenetrable wrong, I know... |
| Jjeroen 31.10.2006 11:05 |
double post |
| Jjeroen 31.10.2006 11:06 |
I think most of us lost interest in reading all these posts... ;-) ANYWAYSSSS back to the things that DO interest all of us: Greg, what's that with those live tapes you mention? Which tapes are you listening to at the moment (if you can tell) and (if it's not 'just' for the archiving of them) with what possible purposes? |
| Bobby_brown 31.10.2006 11:11 |
MDNA wrote: Thanks Bobby for your kind answer. As for Opera Omnia being the Creme de la Creme of Queen Bootlegs I must disagree. It is only a 4 (?) disc compilation of songs played live bu Queen. I'm not even sure it includes date and venue for all those performances.Soundwise, it was! You get all the songs Queen have ever played live in the best sound possible. Ten years ago, you couldn´t put your hands on the March 74 performance of the Rainbow outside the traders community (at least i couldn´t!). That was a compilation, but compared with the sound of the other bootlegs, that was pure heaven. For today´s standards you can say that it wasn´t nothing special, but ten years ago, where would you find Hammersmith 75, or Tokyio, etc? For me it wasn´t easy at all, that´s whay i agree that it was indeed one of the best bootlegs around. Today, with all the sharings on the Internet we don´t see things as they were in the past! Take care |
| Penetration_Guru 31.10.2006 12:50 |
I wonder if Greg's allowed to tease us with answers to the following...purely in order to maintain levels of interest and to promote discussion... 1. How many different concerts do Queen have an archive of (independent of any audience recorded ones)? 2. What year is the earliest one from? 3. Roughly how many have you listened to so far? Hopefully nothing too controversial in there... |
| Queen Archivist 31.10.2006 13:51 |
I wonder if Greg's allowed to tease us with answers to the following...purely in order to maintain levels of interest and to promote discussion... 1. How many different concerts do Queen have an archive of (independent of any audience recorded ones)? I REALLY DON'T KNOW. BUT I WILL WHEN THEY'RE ALL LOGGED. NOT AS MANY AS EVERYONE THINGS. JUST THE USUAL KNOWN OONES MAINLY... WITH A FEW SURPRISES. 2. What year is the earliest one from? FROM MEMORY 1973. 3. Roughly how many have you listened to so far? NOT MANY. WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN REALLY INTO THE LIVE STUFF TO THE DEGREE WE HAVE THE STUDIO STUFF. THAT WILL CHANGE... DUE IN PART TO THE ADVENT OF DVD, I GUESS. Hopefully nothing too controversial in there... |
| theCro 31.10.2006 16:36 |
DUE IN PART TO THE ADVENT OF DVD, I GUESS. Hopefully nothing too controversial in there...what dvd are you about? |
| Roy ® 31.10.2006 17:47 |
Queen Archivist wrote: 3. Roughly how many have you listened to so far? NOT MANY. WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN REALLY INTO THE LIVE STUFF TO THE DEGREE WE HAVE THE STUDIO STUFF. THAT WILL CHANGE... DUE IN PART TO THE ADVENT OF DVD, I GUESS.So we could expect an live DVD soon ??? |
| Fireplace 31.10.2006 20:20 |
theCro wrote:That would be DVD in general, which means no specific DVD is indicated. Don't get your hopes up!DUE IN PART TO THE ADVENT OF DVD, I GUESS. Hopefully nothing too controversial in there...what dvd are you about? |
| Penetration_Guru 01.11.2006 12:58 |
Cheers Greg. |