| DeeEmm 21.10.2006 18:38 |
I fear that this may have been bought up or established already, but I haven't really seen it elsewhere so, here goes. As we all know, Queen (the album) ends with a demo version of Seven Seas of Rhye and the intention was to begin Queen II with that song, creating a linking effect. Last night, whilst listening to Queen II's version of the song, I heard the weird bit at the end and the stuff involved seaside... ...and I began thinking, is this an intentional link to the first song of SHA, Brighton Rock? The distortion effects sounds quite similiar, and the lyrics seems to hold some sort of resemblance... Can someone provide me with answers? |
| John S Stuart 21.10.2006 19:15 |
Use the 'search button' - this is another FAQ. I'm not being rude, just helpful. Everything I need to know, Mr Google tells me so... |
| MickyVee 22.10.2006 07:46 |
At the beginning of Brighton Rock, you can hear somebody whistling the "Oh I do like to be beside the Sea-Side" bit of the song. ..So there you go. |
| Raf 22.10.2006 08:38 |
The final bit of Seven Seas Of Rhye was sung by a bunch of people who were in the studio when the song was being recorded. The beginning of Brighton Rock is an existing song. So, if you can actually notice a connection between them, you're mental. |
| mircal 24.10.2006 00:38 |
<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: The final bit of Seven Seas Of Rhye was sung by a bunch of people who were in the studio when the song was being recorded. The beginning of Brighton Rock is an existing song. So, if you can actually notice a connection between them, you're mental.And can i ask where you got this info? And actually you can hear a guy sing at the begginging of B.R.... so... i must be mental to. |
| innuendo1991 26.10.2006 19:59 |
Just a second... how can you be mental seeing this link?? It's there! Seven seas of Rhye ends with 'Oh I do like to be beside the seaside' and Brighton Rock opens with someone singing that very same tune. I think you'll find unless you have no sense of music (But listening to Queen means you can't be a complete idiot unless you're just a sheep). The link is as plain as anything!! |
| Raf 27.10.2006 20:14 |
I'm telling you, the Brighton Rock intro is an existing song which was not written (and not performed either) by Queen. As soon as I find any site with this info I'll post it here. |
| Raf 27.10.2006 20:30 |
Oh, see what I found here on QZ:
Carousel (Fairground Intro) Unreleased: EMI "Inhouse funfair effects & March" (Feature in the film "House On The Hill")link And John S Stuart probably can confirm it himself. And maybe he (or any other "expert") could confirm that the last bit of Seven Seas Of Rhye was recorded by lots of people who were in the studio on that day. |
| Champipple 27.10.2006 23:16 |
I believe I hear the link too. Maybe they used an existing piece of music and overdubbed on top it? On second thought... Queen and overdubbing. Nonsense! :) |
| i-Fred 26.01.2007 00:34 |
Yes i do think there is a link.... And that last part is from a song called i do like to be beside the seaside. Written and composed by John A. Glover-Kind (1907).. |
| Wiley 26.01.2007 03:57 |
I haven't heard that fair effects clip in its original version but I surely can hear someone whistle the "I do like to be beside the seaside" tune in the intro to Brighton Rock so there is obviously a connection. I'm pretty sure this is an overdub. Actually, I believe that Queen II was supposed to begin with Seven Seas of Rhye (as Queen I ended with an instrumental version of it) in some stage but then the idea was dropped. Wiley |
| rhyeking 26.01.2007 18:40 |
I have this carousel track from that effect LP in question. The first 20 seconds or so are used on Brighton Rock. HOWEVER, at the 14 seconds into the carousel effects there is NO whistling. The whisting was added by Queen and is indeed the "How I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" tune. If anyone wants this FX track, I'll send it to you privately, just email me. Oh, and another connection we all know about between the first three album is Rhye: Seven Seas Of Rhye...(Queen), The Seven Seas Of Rhye (Queen II), and Lily Of The Valley's lyric "To tell the King of Rhye he's lost his throne." Rhyeking |
| thomasquinn 32989 27.01.2007 10:44 |
<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: Oh, see what I found here on QZ:If you were any less stupid, you'd have figured this out for yourself.Carousel (Fairground Intro) Unreleased: EMI "Inhouse funfair effects & March" (Feature in the film "House On The Hill")link And John S Stuart probably can confirm it himself. And maybe he (or any other "expert") could confirm that the last bit of Seven Seas Of Rhye was recorded by lots of people who were in the studio on that day. This deals with the SOUND EFFECTS, not the whistled part. The SOUND EFFECTS (of a FAIRGROUND, hence the TITLE) were taken off a studio-record of sound effects that was lying around and made its way into their hands. They overdubbed it with THE WHISTLING and a small bit of guitar to make it into the intro of Brighton Rock. |
| thomasquinn 32989 27.01.2007 10:46 |
rhyeking wrote: I have this carousel track from that effect LP in question. The first 20 seconds or so are used on Brighton Rock. HOWEVER, at the 14 seconds into the carousel effects there is NO whistling. The whisting was added by Queen and is indeed the "How I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" tune. If anyone wants this FX track, I'll send it to you privately, just email me. Oh, and another connection we all know about between the first three album is Rhye: Seven Seas Of Rhye...(Queen), The Seven Seas Of Rhye (Queen II), and Lily Of The Valley's lyric "To tell the King of Rhye he's lost his throne." RhyekingThat doesn't really count as any more than a Freddie-connection. "Rhye" was his imaginary world when he was little. |
| john bodega 27.01.2007 22:32 |
rhyeking wrote: I have this carousel track from that effect LP in question. The first 20 seconds or so are used on Brighton Rock. HOWEVER, at the 14 seconds into the carousel effects there is NO whistling. The whisting was added by Queen and is indeed the "How I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" tune. If anyone wants this FX track, I'll send it to you privately, just email me. RhyekingYou even HAVE the thing?? How obscure is that!!! |
| rhyeking 28.01.2007 02:56 |
Pretty obscure, I'd say. I was hanging a light in the auditorium at my high school when the sound crew played a cassette of effects and that was on it. For a about 14 seconds I thought, "Sweet, Brighton Rock!" When the song didn't start and the carousel music kept going, I realized it was the raw FX track. I should have got a copy of it then, but I forgot about it and wasn't a hardcore fan at the time. When I started collecting Queen song versions, I had that memory on the back of my mind as something to keep an ear out for. I'd begun working professionally in the theatre industry by then and if I thought of it, I'd glance through FX CDs to see if that track was there. I never did find it that way. About a year ago a Queen-collector buddy of mine sent it to me after I mentioned the high school story. |
| john bodega 28.01.2007 05:42 |
That is darn fortuitous! |
| Bobby_brown 28.01.2007 15:25 |
rhyeking wrote: I have this carousel track from that effect LP in question. The first 20 seconds or so are used on Brighton Rock. HOWEVER, at the 14 seconds into the carousel effects there is NO whistling. The whisting was added by Queen and is indeed the "How I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside" tune. If anyone wants this FX track, I'll send it to you privately, just email me. Oh, and another connection we all know about between the first three album is Rhye: Seven Seas Of Rhye...(Queen), The Seven Seas Of Rhye (Queen II), and Lily Of The Valley's lyric "To tell the King of Rhye he's lost his throne." RhyekingSince your mail is not avaiable, if the offer still stands i would love to hear the track. Take care |
| Bobby_brown 29.01.2007 10:09 |
rhyeking wrote: I have this carousel track from that effect LP in question. The first 20 seconds or so are used on Brighton Rock.Thanks man, i receive the mail and it´s fantastic to hear that song. I just can´t help to feel that Brian is coming in with his riff at any time ; )) Take care |
| ITSM 29.01.2007 21:41 |
Please be kind and e-mail this to me too :) It would be great! itsm@hotmail.com |
| rhyeking 29.01.2007 22:28 |
Share and share alike, that's my motto! There's a special circle of Hell reserved for people with rare stuff who don't share. I've spent my hard-earned on finds and frankly, it benefits the whole of Queen-fandom to spread that mojo around. I don't buy that "it's worth less if everyone has it!" mentality. If every has it, everyone can enjoy it and the world is a better place for it. There's also a special circle of Hell for people who talk in theatres (live and cinematic both), idiots with laser-pointers, and doctors offering advice we didn't ask for. Peace out, yo! Rhyeking |
| john bodega 29.01.2007 22:59 |
An admirable philosophy, there are some African nation states that could learn from this attitude!! I'd love to hear the track, if you're still sharing it. I've an e-mail zebonka@gmail.com Thanks for the information about the thing, it's funny. It could've been any obscure carnival track, it just happened to be that one. Hah. |
| kosimodo 30.01.2007 07:20 |
Rhyeking.. u having that bit makes me smile!! What fun it must have been finding out!! And thanx for sharing it with the rest of the world! For those is a special place made in heaven;) |
| thomasquinn 32989 30.01.2007 07:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: An admirable philosophy, there are some African nation states that could learn from this attitude!!And it doesn't end there either. Oh, by the way: the term 'nation state' is obsolete nowadays; it refers to the 19th century ideal of a completely independent (and self-sufficient) nationalist state with as little international diplomacy as possible. Nowadays, we have arrived at a twofold consequence of this: internationalism and regionalism, although they seem mutually exclusive at first sight. |
| john bodega 30.01.2007 08:53 |
Indeed - me 'n' my hodgepodge terminology... |
| ern2150 30.01.2007 09:09 |
Anyone thought about isolating the whistle, given the Queen track minus the stock track? ... |
| Bobby_brown 30.01.2007 15:42 |
rhyeking wrote: Pretty obscure, I'd say. I was hanging a light in the auditorium at my high school when the sound crew played a cassette of effects and that was on it. For a about 14 seconds I thought, "Sweet, Brighton Rock!" When the song didn't start and the carousel music kept going, I realized it was the raw FX track. I should have got a copy of it then, but I forgot about it and wasn't a hardcore fan at the time. When I started collecting Queen song versions, I had that memory on the back of my mind as something to keep an ear out for. I'd begun working professionally in the theatre industry by then and if I thought of it, I'd glance through FX CDs to see if that track was there. I never did find it that way. About a year ago a Queen-collector buddy of mine sent it to me after I mentioned the high school story.Do you know the year of the FX LP? Take care |
| vadenuez 31.01.2007 14:12 |
Rhyeking, if you're still sharing it, I'd really love to hear it! Vadenuez@yahoo.com |
| DeeEmm 31.01.2007 15:40 |
Same here! That would be great, thanks! Email m-lee@ihug.co.nz |
| rhyeking 31.01.2007 21:44 |
Hey, I just fired off a bunch of emails with the track to everyone who asked. Sorry it's late, I wasn't online for about 48 hours. I didn't abandon anyone, don't worry. Anyone else? Please allow a few days for delivery as I don't always visit here daily. Rock on, brothers and sisters! Rhyeking |
| john bodega 31.01.2007 22:15 |
Thanks again for this! It's crazy to hear it without.... Queen on it. |
| rhyeking 31.01.2007 22:48 |
It's totally weird not hearing Queen. I always start whistling when it's "supposed" to come in and humming the guitar (not at the same time, though). Someone asked about the actual LP. I don't actually have it, nor have I ever seen it. The closest I came was described in that high school anecdote, when it was played in the auditorium (I guess they were running through different effects sounds). I know it was not directly off the LP and was likely a cassette. Where they got it I don't know. This was around 1993, so CDs existed, but weren't so prevailant. I've since heard many FX recycled on numerous CDs, so this one is probably floating around out there. I will bow before anyone who actually finds a copy of this LP, or at least buy them a beer. |
| i-Fred 31.01.2007 23:28 |
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| i-Fred 31.01.2007 23:28 |
shemp wrote:thats nice |
| The Fairy King 01.02.2007 06:53 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Exactly.<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: Oh, see what I found here on QZ:This deals with the SOUND EFFECTS, not the whistled part. The SOUND EFFECTS (of a FAIRGROUND, hence the TITLE) were taken off a studio-record of sound effects that was lying around and made its way into their hands. They overdubbed it with THE WHISTLING and a small bit of guitar to make it into the intro of Brighton Rock.Carousel (Fairground Intro) Unreleased: EMI "Inhouse funfair effects & March" (Feature in the film "House On The Hill")link And John S Stuart probably can confirm it himself. And maybe he (or any other "expert") could confirm that the last bit of Seven Seas Of Rhye was recorded by lots of people who were in the studio on that day. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.02.2007 08:35 |
rhyeking wrote: Hey, I just fired off a bunch of emails with the track to everyone who asked. Sorry it's late, I wasn't online for about 48 hours. I didn't abandon anyone, don't worry. Anyone else? Please allow a few days for delivery as I don't always visit here daily. Rock on, brothers and sisters! RhyekingYes please! casparmulders (@) hotmail.com. I'll try to make that isolated Queen-version, if possible. |
| john bodega 01.02.2007 08:51 |
ern2150 wrote: Anyone thought about isolating the whistle, given the Queen track minus the stock track? ...Well.... I've tried subtracting mp3 from mp3 before, it's not pretty. (In an effort to make an acapella of "A Winter's Tale", I wound up removing some of John Deacon's bass). And given that this sample is actually a notch lower than Brighton Rock in pitch... it'd be a hell of a tough job. |
| Groucho Marx 28.11.2010 20:13 |
I was also surprised to hear the CAROUSEL/FAIRGROUND NOISE while listening to an Edgar Broughton Band album released May 1973! It's part of a four-song medley, "Face From A Window / Pretty / Hi-Jack Boogie / Slow Down". It has some music playing over it as well as some extra shouting. After the song fades out there is some crowd noise and a telephone bell. Maybe from the same sound effects album? Who knows. Anybody else heard this one? |
| Simulator 28.11.2010 21:30 |
What is the song Brighton Rock starts with and which band was playing that ? |
| FriedChicken 29.11.2010 00:43 |
No, it was completely a coincidence that during the recording sessions of Brighton Rock, they asked someone to come in to whistle 'I do like to be beside the seaside" It was a total surprise to Queen when they pressed the masters. |
| GinjaNinja 29.11.2010 10:38 |
The sound effect is called "Carnival Midway" and is available on the CD "Authentic Sound Effects Volume 3". You can find it here: link It was originally found on the first LP volume of "Authentic Sound Effects": Authentic Sound Effects Vol 1: Sound Effects Elektra EKL 251 (Mono) EKS 7251 (Stereo) - Released: 1964 Production: Jac Holzman |
| Groucho Marx 29.11.2010 11:45 |
Thanks! I was actually trying to find all the info listed! |