| RETROLOVE 19.10.2006 00:34 |
Does anybody know many octaves Roger could lift his voice? |
| YourValentine 19.10.2006 07:19 |
Moved to the General forum. Am I the only one ho loathes these horrible marquees? |
| Rick 19.10.2006 08:45 |
YourValentine wrote: Moved to the General forum. Am I the only one ho loathes these horrible marquees?No. I also hate those sharp/bright colours, like yellow. |
| Katicas..(L) 19.10.2006 10:28 |
i love dark colours like black. best colour in the world! |
| Sebastian 19.10.2006 10:57 |
Recorded: low D to high E (without falsetto), and to high C with falsetto But it doesn't mean he couldn't get higher than that... |
| Al TurHao 19.10.2006 14:08 |
Sebastian, when you say High C, you mean one tone above the Bb he sang in the opera finale (for me, for meeeeeee") of BohRhap? If so, where did he sang that high C? |
| Al TurHao 19.10.2006 14:10 |
Oh... and the high E (Without falsetto), is it the same note Freddie sang in Innuendo ("till the eeend of time") ? Anyway, examples are appreciated. Thank you very much. ;) |
| deleted user 19.10.2006 16:44 |
By "High C", you mean C5 ? - the C above middle C. I'm just mentioning since someone - especially a female - might think of "High C" as C6. "C5" is called "Tenor C" or "Tenor High C". Which is pretty damn high. To be honest, I'm a little confused. Because Sebastian, you said High E in head voice, High C in falsetto. Do you mean High E as E4 ? And the High C as C5 ? Hearing Roger on "Bohemian Rhapsody" with the B4 (flat), I wouldn't suppose he could get to C6... O_o But... then again, I've always thought he was really a woman... Also, what do you mean by Low D ? I would imagine a D2 (The D above the C two-octaves below middle C). But possibly D3 ? I don't really know - I would have thought Roger could sing lower than me, but maybe it's just his husky voice ? |
| Sebastian 19.10.2006 16:59 |
> Sebastian, when you say High C, you mean one tone above the Bb he sang in the opera finale (for me, for meeeeeee") of BohRhap? Yes I mean two semitones higher than that - 'Seaside Rendezvous', trumpet part. > and the high E (Without falsetto), is it the same note Freddie sang in Innuendo ("till the eeend of time") ? I think the one in 'Innuendo' is Eb, so Roger's E is higher. He hit it, for instance, in 'More Of That Jazz' (the final "no MORE"), without falsetto. > By "High C", you mean C5 ? - the C above middle C. I should have said "overhigh C" then :) And Roger could sing very low too - listen to him in 'I Wanna Testify'. The low D (D1) is found in 'Action This Day' (he does octave vocals there). |
| deleted user 19.10.2006 17:59 |
> Sebastian, when you say High C, you mean one tone above the Bb he sang in the opera finale (for me, for meeeeeee") of BohRhap? Yes I mean two semitones higher than that - 'Seaside Rendezvous', trumpet part.Alright I think we're using different notations, you and I. That is what I call C5. Because the one in BR is a Bb4 in the system I use. Are you using European Notation or something ? I think the one in 'Innuendo' is Eb, so Roger's E is higher. He hit it, for instance, in 'More Of That Jazz' (the final "no MORE"), without falsetto.The one at the end of Innuendo appears to be a Eb4. The one Roger hit is indeed E - a semitone higher. And Roger could sing very low too - listen to him in 'I Wanna Testify'. The low D (D1) is found in 'Action This Day' (he does octave vocals there).A D-1 I believe, would be my D3... Huh... I'm not sure AT ALL. I'm terrbily confused... haha, don't mind me ! HERE : link Does that look like his range ? The Low-D to C ? I think we're using different notations, so I'm not sure. :D |
| Sebastian 19.10.2006 20:56 |
Low D ('Action'): 73.42 Hz Low A ('Ride The Wild Wind'): 110 Hz High E ('Jazz', 'Car'): 659.26 Hz High Bb ('Bo Rhap'): 932.33 Hz Overhigh C ('Rendezvous'): 1046.50 Hz |
| deleted user 19.10.2006 22:55 |
Sebastian wrote: Low D ('Action'): 73.42 Hz Low A ('Ride The Wild Wind'): 110 Hz High E ('Jazz', 'Car'): 659.26 Hz High Bb ('Bo Rhap'): 932.33 Hz Overhigh C ('Rendezvous'): 1046.50 HzOh, I think I see where I got confused... It seems I'm using a diffent "Middle C" then everyone... :P I was using C4 as middle C while the web-site (and, it seems, everyone else on the face of the planet) used C3. So... For anyone who cares : This a piano coloured with the frequencies listed, below it is Freddies (just for fun) : link ADDENDUM : The yellow one is Middle C. I'm not sure I belive that Roger Taylor was even in posession of testicles, or if he was, they were malfunctioning. |
| Sebastian 20.10.2006 08:47 |
Fred did a low C in 'Leroy Brown', and a low E in 'All God's People'. |
| Rikke 20.10.2006 13:50 |
Roger said himself, that he believed he was on a high F in Bo Rhap. Gotta test that... |
| teleport8 20.10.2006 14:55 |
Yes it is F |
| deleted user 20.10.2006 15:23 |
How do you test it ? Because I keep getting about 938.298 Hz (which is the Bb nearly two octaves above middle C) for the "For Meeeeeeee" at the end of the "opera section". Of course, this is VERY un-scientific and consists of me matching his note and recording that (and then analysing the pitch) and also playing a machine-generated Bb alongside it. Yes, I don't have wonderful software, and thats about all I can do. But I've repeated the "test" several times and keep getting the same note. By "high F" which one do you mean ? The one at 698.456 Hz (above Tenor C) ? Or 1396.91 Hz (Above Soprano C) ? The former sounds too low and the latter too high. |
| Killer Queenie 20.10.2006 15:30 |
I read somewhere (on wikipedia I think) that on '39 Brian wanted Roger to sing REALLY high but he refused and I think the highest he went was an A or something...I can't quiet remember though... |
| teleport8 20.10.2006 15:45 |
on 39 it's the G# above the F, but it sounds pitched to me |
| Killer Queenie 20.10.2006 16:24 |
I have only just started to learnt note values in music so at the moment, it means nothing to me! =]] |
| teleport8 20.10.2006 16:57 |
i'm just guessing as well |
| deleted user 20.10.2006 17:08 |
I think you're right - about the note at the start of '39. I'm getting a G#, too - at about 848.077 Hz. So... that's the G almost two octaves above middle C. |
| FreMe 22.10.2006 07:52 |
When the hell did we enter russia :S |
| Poo, again 22.10.2006 08:44 |
And this is why Roger IS a woman. |
| Sahin 23.10.2006 11:27 |
a soprano high C may be possible when we remember Roger's falsetto ability. But i don't see a LOW D possible .. it's a bass note and just can't remember if it's been hit in any song of queen by any member? |
| Poo, again 23.10.2006 11:39 |
Sahin wrote: a soprano high C may be possible when we remember Roger's falsetto ability. But i don't see a LOW D possible .. it's a bass note and just can't remember if it's been hit in any song of queen by any member?Yes, low D doesn't seem quite right. Or why do I even care? |
| Killer Queenie 23.10.2006 14:56 |
cue my music teachers!!! |
| Sebastian 23.10.2006 15:46 |
On 'Action' it is hit (D1), since Roger does octave vocals there, one of them goes down to a D2, another to D1. |
| RETROLOVE 23.10.2006 16:24 |
YourValentine wrote: Moved to the General forum. Am I the only one ho loathes these horrible marquees?I love my marquees, but its making me dizzy, so ... I'll turn it off :( |
| RETROLOVE 23.10.2006 17:00 |
Does anybody knows the high note that he hits during the start of Lap of the gods? |
| deleted user 23.10.2006 17:25 |
RETROLOVE wrote: Does anybody knows the high note that he hits during the start of Lap of the gods?It seems like an A or a Ab or something around there. The one right below Soprano C. My brother screams like that... |
| Sebastian 24.10.2006 08:58 |
Lap Of The Gods is a high A (880 Hz), which is really high but something both Roger and Freddie hit several times (Black Queen, Great King Rat...). |
| Rikke 24.10.2006 16:51 |
Well, I tested it on my piano? :b |
| FriedChicken 25.10.2006 04:42 |
I think its different for vocals than it is for instruments. And I also think it changes from country to country. Middle C on piano is C3, but on vocal it's C2, I guess. Lowest note on a normally tuned guitar is an E3. That would mean a bass is E2. If Roger sang a D2 he sang lower than a bass. |
| deleted user 25.10.2006 16:09 |
^ REPLY TO THE POST ABOVE ME (Quoting took up needless room, in my opinion). I was confused by the numbering - but it's like this... This thread is dominated by calling Middle C "C3" (on a piano I have always learned this is C4). A C3 with this notation and a C4 with the piano notation I learned would be the same note. Which I guess is why Hz are employed to avoid confusion. So, the "D2"/"D1" (depending on system used) is the D that is almost two octaves below Middle C. This is certainly reachable for some men - and is in the range of the typical Bass singer. Listening to "Action This Day" - I can hear a low rumble (presumably the Bass D) along with the Tenor-range D dominant notes. It sounds "right" to be called a 73.4162 Hz note to my ears - sounding like a machine-generated tone of that frequency. The only thing I would wonder is how the Bass-range D was produced (technique-wise). |
| Sebastian 25.10.2006 18:29 |
Maybe he'd just woken up, or he had drunk loads of beer. |
| FriedChicken 26.10.2006 05:03 |
When you just wake up it's impossible to sing an octave lower than your normal voice. Even when you have a bad cold it's hard to sing over 5 semitones lower. |
| Poo, again 26.10.2006 09:12 |
I just wonder how these guys can have vocal range covering like... several octaves, falsetto excluded. Is it due to vocal training? Does anyone know how to expand your vocal range? |
| Sebastian 26.10.2006 10:15 |
Actually it's not something exceptional: Roger's range spanned about two and a half octaves (excluding falsetto and the aforementioned D1 which is indeed a special case), which is indeed a little larger than an average singer's, yet nothing superhuman whatsoever. The greatest qualities in Taylor's voice are the fact that he's powerful, has a very nice quality, is very versatile and is 99.99% of the time in perfect pitch. |
| FriedChicken 26.10.2006 12:15 |
nonsence, he was superhuman. all 4 members were Gods. Especially Freddie... He was like the Zeus of Queen |
| deleted user 26.10.2006 15:22 |
<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I just wonder how these guys can have vocal range covering like... several octaves, falsetto excluded. Is it due to vocal training? Does anyone know how to expand your vocal range?If you are wondering for yourself - learning how to use your head voice will probably greatly expand your range if you have not perviously been using it. By learning how to do this I've personally "unlocked" a full ovctave. If you don't have access to a music teacher, those "Day-dah" thingies that Freddie does are damn good for getting in the head voice. |
