queen mercury 33542 12.09.2006 22:15 |
Hey guys! I was trying to download Brian's album, another world, on a site when a friend told me there is a code with a picture. My screen reader doesn't read immages. Are there any other sites I can download from that are free? Not downloading programs, but sites that I can get Queen stuff from? I'm a collector. Lol! Thanks. Queen Mercury |
DeeEmm 13.09.2006 04:23 |
Technically, downloading albums is illegal... |
Crezchi 13.09.2006 05:22 |
Queen Mercury wrote: Hey guys! I was trying to download Brian's album, another world, on a site when a friend told me there is a code with a picture. My screen reader doesn't read immages. Are there any other sites I can download from that are free? Not downloading programs, but sites that I can get Queen stuff from? I'm a collector. Lol! Thanks. Queen MercuryYou are NOT a collector, you are a thief! Did you know that downloading official material, then admitting to it here, can get you into alot of trouble? lol Why not go out and buy this cd? It is probably only around $5 used and $12 new. I mean come on. |
deleted user 13.09.2006 05:42 |
Queen Mercury wrote: Hey guys! I was trying to download Brian's album, another world, on a site when a friend told me there is a code with a picture. My screen reader doesn't read immages. Are there any other sites I can download from that are free? Not downloading programs, but sites that I can get Queen stuff from? I'm a collector. Lol! Thanks. Queen MercuryIf you are a collecter, wouldn't you want the original? I am collecting all the Queen stuff that I possible can, and I dont want burnt, downloaded or... what-ever the other thing is-copies. I'd rather the store-bought ones, and I know it means more money, and I dont get much of that, can't wait until the end of next year. |
The Fairy King 13.09.2006 06:16 |
I collect mp3's too!!! OHMYGAWDROFLMAOLOLLERCOPER!!!!!1111 |
hcrvelin 13.09.2006 06:19 |
Hello Mr. collector, All you need to do is to send your full name and address here and you will get whole album soon delivered to your inbox. It works! Just try! |
Deacon Fan 13.09.2006 07:22 |
Yeah like anyone among us hasn't downloaded something prior to buying it. Clearly she made a little mistake in mentioning what she was trying to get, but since I'm familiar with her situation I'll explain the real point of this.. It's Rapidshare and other sites use of confirmation codes making it impossible for blind folks to download ANYTHING from there, regardless of officialness. Like many of you I'm sure, this is something I'd never even thought about, but indeed the blind are able to use the internet and computers in general, yet there are obstacles such as this.. and it's not just for downloading.. many sites use the codes which show as images for even registering. Of course, I offered to download this and send it to her (since I don't have it yet myself) but she apparently doesn't wish to share the address so she ends up posting this and getting bitched at.. hehe. Haha Jackie, that's what you get for not sharing! Only kidding darling. Smile. |
Crezchi 13.09.2006 07:55 |
Mikahl wrote: Yeah like anyone among us hasn't downloaded something prior to buying it. Clearly she made a little mistake in mentioning what she was trying to get, but since I'm familiar with her situation I'll explain the real point of this.. It's Rapidshare and other sites use of confirmation codes making it impossible for blind folks to download ANYTHING from there, regardless of officialness. Like many of you I'm sure, this is something I'd never even thought about, but indeed the blind are able to use the internet and computers in general, yet there are obstacles such as this.. and it's not just for downloading.. many sites use the codes which show as images for even registering. Of course, I offered to download this and send it to her (since I don't have it yet myself) but she apparently doesn't wish to share the address so she ends up posting this and getting bitched at.. hehe. Haha Jackie, that's what you get for not sharing! Only kidding darling. Smile.Sorry but my comments had nothing to do with her being blind at all, and no i have never downloaded official material in any format for free! I think that anyone who does this is a thief, that is just my opinion, and the laws opinion, and most musicians opinion. |
SK 13.09.2006 08:04 |
Who cares? Let her download what she wants. mp3s are lossy anyways. Hell, Compact Discs in general sound horrible :p |
Deacon Fan 13.09.2006 08:33 |
I buy a lot of good Queen stuff after downloading it first. Nothing beats a full-length test drive. It's kind of like hearing something on the radio before buying it, or watching the video. MP3s make excellent promotional tools. If not for the MP3 of last year's Teo Torriatte remix, released only in Japan, I might not have bothered purchasing it. But hearing what a beautiful job they did I rushed right to hmv.co.jp and ordered a WWRY single which had it. I've spent $1910.28 on Queen-related releases since 2002. I've also sent tons of official material to friends in MP3 form, who then started buying the CDs. A true fan will indeed want to have the real thing in the best quality. I sure do. And when I see the lengths "they" will go to in order to make life hell for people who actually buy stuff.. copy protection that renders discs unplayable, unusable on portable devices.. DVD copy protection that results in errors on some players.. PURCHASED low-quality downloads that require complicated license acquisition, damn right I'm going to rebel against such nonsense. Illegal? Yeah.. being gay is/was illegal in many places too. Legalities don't necessarily equate to fairness or what's truly right. |
Joeker 13.09.2006 11:00 |
who cares...i download all the time, im not a collecter i just like the tunes |
Poo, again 13.09.2006 11:19 |
DeeEmm wrote: Technically, downloading albums is illegal...Too bad, isn't it? |
Micrówave 13.09.2006 11:31 |
Mikahl wrote: Yeah like anyone among us hasn't downloaded something prior to buying it.I have never downloaded anything prior to buying it. All my Queen CDs/LPs/CSs/8T/DVD/VHS are official releases. I sure wish I had some of the stuff you guys have, but that defeats the purpose of supporting the band you love. |
Serry... 13.09.2006 11:43 |
Thieves |
Deacon Fan 13.09.2006 11:52 |
Serry... wrote: ThievesQueen Productions? Yes. The recording industry? Yes. Some artists themselves? Yes. The people who buy a ton of their product yet download stuff free to try it out? No. |
Serry... 13.09.2006 12:02 |
Mikahl don't start useless discussion for the God's sake! When someone will be daily "download" your money from your purse - we'd back to this thread and then discuss, okay? |
martinusx 13.09.2006 12:48 |
Downloading is not illegal here in Holland, so you can't just say that people are thieves! Besides, downloading isn't thieving at all. When downloading the owner does not loose the item, it's still in his posession. When I'm not going to buy the music, they don't get my money anyway. Like I have the album, CD and DVD of "A Night at the Opera", I sure ain't buying the remastered 30th ann. edition also. I have a 1000 CD's and 250 DVD's, I only buy what I realy want, I download the rest. They got enough money from me! Copyright Infringement is the term, I believe. And I realy hate the fact that most albums I bought on CD have crapy sound and are replaced by better sounding remastered editions. |
Deacon Fan 13.09.2006 13:02 |
I'm sorry I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say Serry, but the discussion of downloading official materials is indeed useless. It's like politics, abortion, circumcision. These discussions get nowhere. Smart artists allow for free trading of their stuff once a copy has been purchased. There's a big difference between free and for profit. The world went on for years with people putting a copy of an album on a cassette for their friends, making "mix tapes" for their girlfriends, loaning albums to each other, listening to the radio, watching music videos.. all of these could just as easily be said to diminish sales. But I'll shut up about that whole subject. I've said what I feel though there's so much more that could be said. It'll have to be argued in court instead. I just hope I get my chance someday. I'll bring my receipts. :) |
Serry... 13.09.2006 13:05 |
Sometimes I think that communism is still alive... "They're rich! Lost of 5$ won't make them poor guys! Who cares?!"... I've already heard it somewhere... In Soviet Union... "The recording and artwork are protected by copyright laws. Using Internet services to distribute copyrighted music, giving away illegal copies of discs or lending discs to others for them to copy is illegal. By carrying out any of these actions it has the same effect as stealing music. Applicable laws provide severe civil and criminal penalties for the unathorized reproduction, distribution and digital transmission of copyrighted sound recordings." P.S. Dura lex sed lex |
Rick 13.09.2006 13:22 |
It's a shame that a Queen fan downloads Queen or Queen-related albums, which are released officially. For a try-out? Ah, c'mon. |
queen mercury 33542 13.09.2006 13:49 |
I don't download many things at all. I was just wondering what people thought about that site. It would be hard for a blind person to use the computer and find out that a code is a picture. I'm not trying to steal even if I downloaded something. Sorry for hating me! |
deleted user 13.09.2006 14:35 |
paul mccartney has a feature on his website that allows you to download music directly(for a price, of course)...but since brian's solo material isn't available on itunes, it might be nice if he did something like that. besides, if it were easy enough, it might encourage fans to download legally instead. this downloading thing is a tough issue. it's one thing to download something and then buy it later for the better sound, but the vast majority of downloaders don't care about sound quality, they're just looking for free music. and no matter how much you preach about the morality of it, the fact is that if people CAN download music easily and for free, they will. and record companies will still lose money. so it's better to start thinking of practical solutions for this...like the approach queen took to bootlegs, which was perfectly ingenious...i know one band(can't remember the name) offered their new album for free on their own website, as a sampler, and then put bonus tracks on the cd. i don't know if it worked or not. |
teleman 13.09.2006 14:43 |
martinusx wrote: Downloading is not illegal here in Holland, so you can't just say that people are thieves! Besides, downloading isn't thieving at all. When downloading the owner does not loose the item, it's still in his posession. When I'm not going to buy the music, they don't get my money anyway. Like I have the album, CD and DVD of "A Night at the Opera", I sure ain't buying the remastered 30th ann. edition also. I have a 1000 CD's and 250 DVD's, I only buy what I realy want, I download the rest. They got enough money from me! Copyright Infringement is the term, I believe. And I realy hate the fact that most albums I bought on CD have crapy sound and are replaced by better sounding remastered editions.Their music, which you freely download, is their intellectual property. It is not yours to take without fair compensation. Legally they do lose but the courts still haven't caught up to technology and aren't likely to. I'm on the fence about downloading. There's too much overpriced bad music. Downloading is one way to fight back but it also limits development of new music/artists. |
its_a_hard_life 26994 13.09.2006 15:48 |
Download what you want Jackie, it's your choice. I personally buy all of Queen's albums. But if it's too expensive or too hard to find because in some areas/countrys it is, then I would understand. :) |
verygood 13.09.2006 15:58 |
you donkey butts! the albums are cheap go out and buy them Or i'm going to have to report you to FBI or the CIA |
deleted user 13.09.2006 17:26 |
i have never seen any of brian may's solo albums in an american record store, not even the independent ones. there's just not a lot of demand. so they CAN be hard to get a hold of. that said, you could always order them off of queenonline or amazon... |
Crezchi 13.09.2006 17:41 |
<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote: i have never seen any of brian may's solo albums in an american record store, not even the independent ones. there's just not a lot of demand. so they CAN be hard to get a hold of. that said, you could always order them off of queenonline or amazon...Gee that's very strange because i saw Brian's Another World in WalMart just 2 days ago, and even they fill their shelves with Queen cd's & dvd's, i also go to alot of Record stores in my area, they have Brian, & Freddie's solo cd's, just the more newer ones, but they are clearly out there. I think that it is a sad day when you have to get an album for free instead of buying it, even if it isn't illegal in Holland or other countries doesn't mean that is it moral. I have purchased over 500 cd's and over 2000 dvd's and i have not 1 stolen or pirated cd or dvd in my collection. So i don't understand the reason why someone has to steal these artists money. They work very hard for that, it is their career and the way they make their earnings, imagine if some people decided to steal $5 or $10 from your earnings here and there! You wouldn't like that now would you? |
Penetration_Guru 13.09.2006 17:45 |
..or ebay. Seriously, there is no longer any country in the world where it is "impossible to buy" any Queen/solo album. Furthermore, blindness is irrelevant to the discussion this has turned into. Downloading material without paying for it is illegal in most countries, and unfair on the artist in ALL countries. While I would agree that downloading something on a trial basis does occur, and can be argued to be a sensible process given the cost of music these days, I would also say that such activity is only valid once per band. Once you know you like a band, you're more likely to "trust" their new album. Also, to go to a site populated by other afficianados of said group and publicise your lack of support for the band is (excuse the term) short-sighted. |
deleted user 13.09.2006 18:09 |
Crezchi wrote:well, that's great that the stores in your area are so broad, but it isn't like that everywhere. i've tried barnes and noble, borders, target, the silver platter, tower records...but i never even see freddie, brian or roger's name. i'm just saying i understand the temptation to just download it, though i agree it's wrong. stealing used to be harder than buying something, but it isn't anymore...that's the problem.<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote: i have never seen any of brian may's solo albums in an american record store, not even the independent ones. there's just not a lot of demand. so they CAN be hard to get a hold of. that said, you could always order them off of queenonline or amazon...Gee that's very strange because i saw Brian's Another World in WalMart just 2 days ago, and even they fill their shelves with Queen cd's & dvd's, i also go to alot of Record stores in my area, they have Brian, & Freddie's solo cd's, just the more newer ones, but they are clearly out there. I think that it is a sad day when you have to get an album for free instead of buying it, even if it isn't illegal in Holland or other countries doesn't mean that is it moral. I have purchased over 500 cd's and over 2000 dvd's and i have not 1 stolen or pirated cd or dvd in my collection. So i don't understand the reason why someone has to steal these artists money. They work very hard for that, it is their career and the way they make their earnings, imagine if some people decided to steal $5 or $10 from your earnings here and there! You wouldn't like that now would you? |
Crezchi 13.09.2006 18:21 |
<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote:one word, EBAY! I bought cd's when they were like $40! Back in those days when they were expensive, they are no longer expensive! I didn't steal them, even though i was in Junior HS and HS, i didn't have much money to spend, just from my summer jobs, but i would ever steal material. People are running out of excuses now days. Ebay is huge and you can get these cd's very cheap on there. Plus there are tons of online record stores that stock these.Crezchi wrote:well, that's great that the stores in your area are so broad, but it isn't like that everywhere. i've tried barnes and noble, borders, target, the silver platter, tower records...but i never even see freddie, brian or roger's name. i'm just saying i understand the temptation to just download it, though i agree it's wrong. stealing used to be harder than buying something, but it isn't anymore...that's the problem.<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote: i have never seen any of brian may's solo albums in an american record store, not even the independent ones. there's just not a lot of demand. so they CAN be hard to get a hold of. that said, you could always order them off of queenonline or amazon...Gee that's very strange because i saw Brian's Another World in WalMart just 2 days ago, and even they fill their shelves with Queen cd's & dvd's, i also go to alot of Record stores in my area, they have Brian, & Freddie's solo cd's, just the more newer ones, but they are clearly out there. I think that it is a sad day when you have to get an album for free instead of buying it, even if it isn't illegal in Holland or other countries doesn't mean that is it moral. I have purchased over 500 cd's and over 2000 dvd's and i have not 1 stolen or pirated cd or dvd in my collection. So i don't understand the reason why someone has to steal these artists money. They work very hard for that, it is their career and the way they make their earnings, imagine if some people decided to steal $5 or $10 from your earnings here and there! You wouldn't like that now would you? |
deleted user 13.09.2006 21:00 |
i'm not trying to justify it-i'm trying to look at the problem objectively. it's just too easy to download official material...i don't know a lot about computers, but it seems to me that bittorrent and its counterparts ought to be held more responsible for allowing copyrighted material to be downloaded off of their websites. it's right out there in the open, for anyone to grab, and yet no one seems to be doing anything about it...or at least not effectively...there's probably some legal loophole they're using. as several people's posts have demonstrated, many downloaders don't view downloading as stealing, because they're not actually hiding something under their coats and smuggling it out of the store. but just because this isn't your traditional conception of theft doesn't make it less wrong. |
Crezchi 14.09.2006 02:28 |
<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote: i'm not trying to justify it-i'm trying to look at the problem objectively. it's just too easy to download official material...i don't know a lot about computers, but it seems to me that bittorrent and its counterparts ought to be held more responsible for allowing copyrighted material to be downloaded off of their websites. it's right out there in the open, for anyone to grab, and yet no one seems to be doing anything about it...or at least not effectively...there's probably some legal loophole they're using. as several people's posts have demonstrated, many downloaders don't view downloading as stealing, because they're not actually hiding something under their coats and smuggling it out of the store. but just because this isn't your traditional conception of theft doesn't make it less wrong.Yes, but prostitution, crack, cocaine, marijuana, and other illegal things are also widely and easy access, but does that mean that we should buy it? I know it's a little different, but kinda the same lines as getting illegal things very easily. |
rosedewitt 14.09.2006 05:49 |
downloading official material IS NOT illegal, - when you own the original! you can download and have copies of it how many you like. but you have to own the original. however, no one can check if you own the original or not, so (unfortunately for queen or whoever earns the money for the cd's) you can do what you like. you can download queen stuff for example on: mininova.org torrent.to queenzone.com elblogdequeen.blogspot.com etc etc |
Crezchi 14.09.2006 05:51 |
rosedewitt wrote: downloading official material IS NOT illegal, - when you own the original! you can download and have copies of it how many you like. but you have to own the original. however, no one can check if you own the original or not, so (unfortunately for queen or whoever earns the money for the cd's) you can do what you like.When the FBI raided alot of College students dorm rooms all around the US, they found that 90% of them didn't own the original of what they had downloaded, so how do you get that conclusion? Downloading music and movies is a risky business and eventually you WILL be caught. |
rosedewitt 14.09.2006 05:55 |
what does means "a lot"? ten? twenty? maybe a hundred of students that they searched... so it's really improbable that they get in your house for a razzia. and i'm sure, no person, who downloads "illegal" cares about such razzias, because it's so improbable that they get the razzia in their own house. |
rosedewitt 14.09.2006 05:57 |
Crezchi wrote:you say it, - eventually....rosedewitt wrote: downloading official material IS NOT illegal, - when you own the original! you can download and have copies of it how many you like. but you have to own the original. however, no one can check if you own the original or not, so (unfortunately for queen or whoever earns the money for the cd's) you can do what you like.When the FBI raided alot of College students dorm rooms all around the US, they found that 90% of them didn't own the original of what they had downloaded, so how do you get that conclusion? Downloading music and movies is a risky business and eventually you WILL be caught. you don't have to risk that yourself, but you also can't tell anyone not to do it who wants to take the chance on it. |
Crezchi 14.09.2006 14:12 |
rosedewitt wrote:I don't have to risk it, i don't do it. And yes you are correct, i can't tell anyone not to do it, that's your choice. And to asnwer your comment on how many college students dorms, lol i wasn't 5 or 10, try over 5,000. If i can find the link i will share it with you.Crezchi wrote:you say it, - eventually.... you don't have to risk that yourself, but you also can't tell anyone not to do it who wants to take the chance on it.rosedewitt wrote: downloading official material IS NOT illegal, - when you own the original! you can download and have copies of it how many you like. but you have to own the original. however, no one can check if you own the original or not, so (unfortunately for queen or whoever earns the money for the cd's) you can do what you like.When the FBI raided alot of College students dorm rooms all around the US, they found that 90% of them didn't own the original of what they had downloaded, so how do you get that conclusion? Downloading music and movies is a risky business and eventually you WILL be caught. |
deleted user 14.09.2006 16:11 |
soooo...how come 90% of college-age students aren't in prison right now? |
rosedewitt 14.09.2006 16:19 |
lol... well ok it's your opinion. for example downloading a movie: a person who can afford to spent 20 euro for a movie won't do the work to download it in a poor video/audio quality, but buy the original with the nice cover etc. only a person who can't afford to buy it or to watch it in the cinema would download it. and such persons should also have fun to watch the movies they like, although they couldn't afford to get to it "legally". to accept this would be kind. i guess all the queen members don't care if their fans download their work or buy it. and another question: how many of the 5000 kids were arrested in prison?? i'm sure not 90% of them... not even 50%. |
deleted user 14.09.2006 16:23 |
rosedewitt wrote: and another question: how many of the 5000 kids were arrested in prison?? i'm sure not 90% of them... not even 50%.lol, we said the same thing...stats like that can be manipulated and blown out of proportion...that's beside the point, though, since it's probable that that many students DO illegally download, for reasons of income and ease and so on. but they don't typically get punished. |
corades 15.09.2006 01:06 |
I don't understand all the fuss around downloading if a person isn't going to make profit from it and downloads something for his own use. It's true, that those who can find and afford the originals won't bother to download copies. I know that some collectors sell copies of the official material and bootlegs, but I really don't think that they are making profit from it. I consider it not a buisiness, but sharing.Very few people are interested in buying these things. I myself bought a lot of stuff from such collectors, which I couldn't find in the shops and cannot order online because I don't have a credit card. And I am so much greatful to these people who shared.But what I could buy in a legal way, I did. Pirates is another thing. They spread thousands of copies and this I really consider stealing and a crime. |
deleted user 15.09.2006 02:25 |
I really don't care about this shit, If I want to download the stuff, I dont do it myself soo... |
Poo, again 15.09.2006 09:26 |
The wonderful Scottish band Franz Ferdinand are pro downloading. |
deleted user 15.09.2006 09:44 |
corades wrote: I myself bought a lot of stuff from such collectors, which I couldn't find in the shops and cannot order online because I don't have a credit card.it's possible to buy things online without a credit card. it's a little more work, though. |
violonbleu 15.09.2006 10:26 |
Don't bore more this poor guy; when you think very well about it, almost all the bootlegs that are shared among fans are not legally shared too, because it is Queen music...so...we are losing some time too when we discuss this point... |
its_a_hard_life 26994 15.09.2006 10:48 |
<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote:Nearly every site I know ask for Credit Card... What's the names of these sites that doesn't ask for Credit Card? Maybe they ask for your mobile number or phone bill and take money from there. A diffrent type of method to pay apart from Credit Card....corades wrote: I myself bought a lot of stuff from such collectors, which I couldn't find in the shops and cannot order online because I don't have a credit card.it's possible to buy things online without a credit card. it's a little more work, though. |
deleted user 15.09.2006 11:39 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:ebay lets you use money orders. bit more of a hassle, but it works.<font color="66CC00">macbethscrazywife wrote:Nearly every site I know ask for Credit Card... What's the names of these sites that doesn't ask for Credit Card? Maybe they ask for your mobile number or phone bill and take money from there. A diffrent type of method to pay apart from Credit Card....corades wrote: I myself bought a lot of stuff from such collectors, which I couldn't find in the shops and cannot order online because I don't have a credit card.it's possible to buy things online without a credit card. it's a little more work, though. |