| Queen Archivist 02.09.2006 12:15 |
A QueenZoner wrote... ...there are a few ‘elite’ collectors who do indeed own oodles of rare audio and visual material. One collector whom we both know, privately owns film stock of an alternative Seven Seas Of Rhye promotional film – which has never been seen by the public – nor has his Bohemian Rhapsody video out-takes. I know these exist – (as well as many other alternative films and takes) as I have been privilege to a private screening. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS. I HAVE EXTREMELY GOOD REASONS FOR NOT BELIEVING THIS. THIS IS BULLSHIT INVENTED TO MAKE A POINT WHICH IS ALSO INVALID AND NOT WORTHY OF YOU. We both know these exist, NO WE DO NOT 'BOTH' KNOW ANY SUCH THING. YOU MAY THINK THEY EXIST, I DO NOT. THAT IS NOT BOTH OF US AT ALL. IT'S JUST YOU, AND YOU TRYING TO ATTACH BOGUS CREDIBILITY TO YOUR BULLSHIT. and we both know that ‘Hell would freeze over’ before Queen Productions were ever able to obtain such rarities, THIS IS JUST THE PREDICTABLE TAIL OUT I WAS EXPECTING. IT EFFECTIVELY MEANS THAT THE ITEMS YOU INVENTED WILL NOT HAVE TO BE, AS IT WERE, GIVEN IN EVIDENCE. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT YOU WOULD SAY, KNOWING THAT THEY CANNOT EVER BE PRESENTED. RIDICULOUS AND PUERILE COMMENT, AND TOTALLY TRANSPARENT TO ALL OF US.... OR THOSE OF US THAT CAN BEAR TO FACE THE REALITY THAT YOU DO GET THINGS WRONG, AND THAT YOU MAKE UP THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE CANNOT REFUTE.... BUT IN THIS CASE, I CAN. I'M TELLING YOU, DEAR MOANZONERS, THAT... 'Seven Seas Of Rhye promotional film – which has never been seen by the public – nor has his Bohemian Rhapsody video out-takes.' SIMPLY DO NOT EXIST. DO NOT GIVE THIS PERSON YOUR TIME OR EFFORT. DO NOT BE SO MANIPULATED. IT'S JUST ANOTHER STRATMAN TYPE OF SUNBURY CONCERT 1974 FILM INVENTION. THEY DON'T EXIST. THEY NO MORE EXIST, THAN THE PERSON WHO TOLD YOU THIS, BIG CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND ADMIRERS EXIST. THEY ARE ALL FIGMENTS OF IMAGINATION SUDDENLY PUT FORWARD TO IMPRESS YOU AND MAKE A POINT IN ANGER (OR FRUSTRATION) 'I have been privilege to a private screening.' "MY ARSE!" AS JIM ROYAL SO ELOQUENTLY PUTS IT. IF YOU BELIEVE YOU WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING. IF HE SAID THAT FOOTAGE OF FREDDIE MERCURY BEATING UP GARY GLITTER IN 1979, AT A PARK IN COVENTRY, AFTER A GIG, EXISTED, GOD, WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT TOO? PLEASE DON'T BE GULLIBLE ENOUGH TO TAKE THAT IN. |
| Serry... 02.09.2006 12:26 |
On MoanZone this is calling "spamming" or "attention seeking" (in some cases), don't start new thread if you want to reply to someone. Thanks in advance, Mr Brooks! |
| Lisser 02.09.2006 12:33 |
Which QZer said this stuff? |
| Serry... 02.09.2006 12:37 |
Lisser wrote: Which QZer said this stuff?So-called (by Mr B) "fan" also known as John S. Stuart in some circles... |
| Queen Archivist 02.09.2006 12:47 |
Serry. I don't want to rely to someone. I want to make a point, to impart something i know to be fact. Nothing more or less - hence this new thread. |
| Serry... 02.09.2006 12:50 |
I understood that, Greg. But as you see people who didn't read details of your discussion with John in other threads can't understand what do you mean and about whom you're talking about. Put a link at least to what you refer in your statement... |
| john bodega 02.09.2006 12:50 |
This is why I dislike the internet. Actual solid-gold verification is so hard to come by. I'd like to trust anyone who comes along, but really... I've gotten used to just assuming everyone is a liar, until some kind of proof is coughed up. Nothing personal. |
| Lisser 02.09.2006 12:51 |
Serry... wrote:Thanks Serry, that tells me all I need to know then.Lisser wrote: Which QZer said this stuff?So-called (by Mr B) "fan" also known as John S. Stuart in some circles... |
| david (galashiels) 02.09.2006 13:18 |
i wana see fred kicking the shit out of garry glitter lol |
| John S Stuart 02.09.2006 14:05 |
John S Stuart wrote: ... face the fact that many rare and hidden gems will NEVER see the light of day - not because of unwilling, selfish or even greedy fans - but because as a faceless entity, QPL are the ones who treat that very same fan base no better than sh*t - and unless that bridge is spanned by something a bit more concrete, far more rarities will be driven underground than ever possibly imagined. Greg: (Notice how I can use YOUR name), For years I have written on this board, and for years I have made all sorts of predictions and leaked all sorts of information, therefore regular readers will be able to decide for themselves whether I am a good source of information or whether I fictionalise - and frankly I care not one jot either way. But you are correct, I would not share with you the steam from my proverbial sh*t, not because it does not exist - but because I can. And if this makes me a bad person - so be it, and if you wish to deny the existence of this based on you own prejudices, then again, that is not my problem either. Can you not see the damage you are doing by isolating genuine people? Earlier last year you reported one gentleman "jumped up and down each time he saw you", and while I believe that to be a gross exaggeration - do you REALLY know what stuff that gentleman has? NO: you do not. Do you know what I own: NO you do not. So please do not come on here and try bluff your way with "if you have it show me the money", because that rouse is well past his sell-by date. |
| John S Stuart 02.09.2006 14:06 |
Sorry - repetition. |
| John S Stuart 02.09.2006 14:06 |
Sorry - repetition. |
| Penetration_Guru 02.09.2006 15:49 |
Is it me or is there a hell of an echo in here? |
| YourValentine 02.09.2006 16:05 |
It is you |
| YourValentine 02.09.2006 16:05 |
you |
| Nathan 02.09.2006 16:07 |
No comment. |
| John S Stuart 02.09.2006 16:24 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Is it me or is there a hell of an echo in here?Sorry, I have no idea how that happened. It was not deliberate. |
| kdj2hot 02.09.2006 16:24 |
Gregs back, yay. Maybe it can get exciting around here again. |
| TheGame 02.09.2006 16:39 |
Isn't it possible to avoid this, yet again the same people argue. I'm tired of this. |
| John S Stuart 02.09.2006 17:58 |
TheGame wrote: Isn't it possible to avoid this, yet again the same people argue. I'm tired of this.YOU’RE tired?! You should try it from my end mate - it's absolutely exasperating! |
| Asterik 02.09.2006 18:10 |
you know what, I'm going to completely change tack and give Mr Brooks a chance here. |
| Adam Baboolal 02.09.2006 19:08 |
I mean no disrespect to anyone here and this little note is purely a thought. These rarities that will never see the light of day remind me of those paintings that hang in the private vaults of individuals, never to be seen. I dislike it very much and think the same in the realm of Queen rarities. If ALL rarities don't eventually show up, I think that's horrible. This isn't to mean that I'm one of those people who wants it all and wants it now! No. I just like to believe that these things won't be lost to those who hold onto them. And I certainly wouldn't be happy to know that there are people out there that don't wish Queen would be able to recover important items. I don't think QPL deserve anything good or bad. I guess if you have bad blood with them then that's where it might stay. Sad that, though. Peace, Adam. |
| Indo77 02.09.2006 19:20 |
The Earl's Court 7/6/77 material that leaked a while back was crap quality but obviously was leaked from somewhere. So is there a full crap quality version? QP obviously have the master tape of the decent stuff. It is dreadful people horde this material for themselves. It's quite Elitist. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 02.09.2006 20:05 |
For the people who don't like other people hoarding rarities, and believing them to be elitists, chew on these words which I've changed very, very slightly: "Also, you might want to explain why YOU did not purchase something, ANYTHING, to become a Record Collector yourself. You could have done, but you didn't. You are one of those people that criticises others but without ever doing anything yourself, aren't you. You tedious person." If Greg Brooks has no trouble with people collecting, neither should any of you. |
| dont try suicide 02.09.2006 21:37 |
alright, let the games begin. it's arguing time! COME ONE, CALL ALL TO SEE THE GREATEST QUEEN FANS BATTLE IT OUT TO THE ULTIMATE DEATH BY WAY OF INTERNET TYPING! FIRST UP WEIGHING IN AT A MIGHTY 186LBS IS MR. GREG BROOKS. HIS CHALLENGER AND ARCH RIVAL IS IS THE ONE AND ONLY JOHN S. STUART. WHO WILL WIN? WHO WILL DIE? STAY TUNED TO FIND OUT TONIGHT! |
| DreaminQueen 02.09.2006 21:59 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: For the people who don't like other people hoarding rarities, and believing them to be elitists, chew on these words which I've changed very, very slightly: "Also, you might want to explain why YOU did not purchase something, ANYTHING, to become a Record Collector yourself. You could have done, but you didn't. You are one of those people that criticises others but without ever doing anything yourself, aren't you. You tedious person." If Greg Brooks has no trouble with people collecting, neither should any of you.I'm not going to side with anyone here. As it is unsubstantiated by said collectors who say they have it, and Mr. Brooks says that they do not exsist. But who am i to say either way? No where. But I can understand both sides of it, and as a reply to the above statement this is simply a counterview from a younger fan (myself), to help you chew the fat a bit more, so to speak... "Yes, you have the right to collect, as does anyone. No disputes here. But what about us younger fans, who wish to become collectors, but don't have the resources to do so? Obviously, you were able to come into contact with someone who held these rareities. But if you hold them to 'never see the light of day' (as you like to say) then whats out there for us younger generation to seek out if these big collectors hold everything? Do what you want with your property, as its none of my business to tell you what to do with it, just simply a view from someone who would have one hell of a time coming across these things. And be not mistaken, I'm not saying that you did not work hard to find them, but it almost seems a shame to let hard work never see the day light for others no?" And it is a bit frustrating knowing the possibilities of such things are around, but will not be viewed, but I'll have to just accept it, and i see no reason to scream and insult anyone over it, because it wont change anything, except create a rift between fans, over something that brought us together in the first place. Maybe its naive for me to say, but thats how i feel about it. It also is a bit tiring to see grown adults arguing over these things. I can see why everyone would be frustrated, and perhaps personal things come into play which are none of my business as well. But instead of working together and those who "collect" the "rareities" along with QPL to bring the fans what they want, it amounts to nothing but clawing eachothers eyes out. Perhaps these collectors who keep it for themselves would actually have MORE respect within the community for sharing what they found, rather than seemingly "weilding power" over other traders et al?? Ok, enough of my life takes on this. I mean no malice for anyone, simply a new take from someone whos not directly involved in said squabbles. Thanks for your time. *Dreamin |
| Crezchi 03.09.2006 00:10 |
donttrysuicide wrote: alright, let the games begin. it's arguing time! COME ONE, CALL ALL TO SEE THE GREATEST QUEEN FANS BATTLE IT OUT TO THE ULTIMATE DEATH BY WAY OF INTERNET TYPING! FIRST UP WEIGHING IN AT A MIGHTY 186LBS IS MR. GREG BROOKS. HIS CHALLENGER AND ARCH RIVAL IS IS THE ONE AND ONLY JOHN S. STUART. WHO WILL WIN? WHO WILL DIE? STAY TUNED TO FIND OUT TONIGHT!I haven't been around here very long, but i am sorry to say this but.. This fighting is very boring and childish! I don't know neither person, but i know OF them both. On a popular name fight, Greg Brooks would win. On a personality fight, John S Stuart would win. Why can't Greg Brooks quit being a smart ass to people & give us fans useful information, and why can't John S Stuart quit whining about something that happened over 5 years ago and quit spamming QZ with repeated messages about Greg? Please understand this isn't a personal attack on either person, i do not know them, i am just kind of agravated already. |
| john bodega 03.09.2006 00:28 |
Ya know, if everyone shared everything, this wouldn't be a problem. Ha-ha. No one would be accused of lying about what they have or don't have, QP would have an easier time of finding things to put on new releases. Unfortunately no one would be able to brag about what they've got anymore, but bragging is for football players, not Queen fans. |
| Crezchi 03.09.2006 01:27 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Ya know, if everyone shared everything, this wouldn't be a problem. Ha-ha. No one would be accused of lying about what they have or don't have, QP would have an easier time of finding things to put on new releases. Unfortunately no one would be able to brag about what they've got anymore, but bragging is for football players, not Queen fans.Exactly, plus the fact that if everyone shared everything, there would be nothing to buy! |
| John S Stuart 03.09.2006 07:02 |
I think some of the above press has been a tad unfair. As for my own take: For years I have been writing on this board. I have always been happy to do my own thing, and to contribute fairly to other posts. I do not need to sell this, as I hope my record, (and the search button) speaks for itself. Yet, sometimes on occasion, I will contribute positively only to be shot down in flames by Greg. On other occasions, he has started (for no obvious reason) only what I can describe as hate mail to flame me for the fun of it. How do you think this makes me feel? I do NOT dislike the man. I do NOT know the man. Each time he appears, HE begins the problems. Each time a problem kicks-off, I extend an olive branch, which for some reason only infuriates him more, but I am damned if I will turn the other cheek, every time he kicks off at me. If this was indeed a fight, I would like it noted, that I do not start them, nor do I attack. I do use self defence – as why should I allow him to continually strike at me? Perhaps a bigger man could walk away, but I am only flesh and blood after all. (Besides, I would be interested to see how other readers were to react if they to were continually provoked after trying to write positive informative replies). There is NO queenzone rivalry, and there is not grudge or bad blood on my part. I do complain that I feel QPL are very amateurish for such a large company, but surely I am allowed the freedom to hold to that opinion? This is not a whining ‘feel sorry for me mail’, rather my point is, do not believe that some fierce John S. Stuart vs. Greg Brooks rivalry exists – because it does not on my part. If this appears like spamming, I apologise, but I too am a guest in here, I feel comfortable here, and I too learn like everyone else. When Queenzone gets it right – it gets it right big time. So perhaps the way forward is simply for both of us to ignore each other I personally feel that is a backward step for all I believe, but for my own sanity, (and the sake of others), it may be time to draw a line in the sand and say ‘enough is enough’. (To Greg: I wish you well, I wish you continued success and happiness, and whatever you are really searching for, I hope you find it). |
| Sebastian 03.09.2006 08:08 |
Certainly it's a difficult matter John (although it shouldn't), and I admire the fact that you haven't thrown the towel despite all the misunderstandings. But I do think all of this has been useful, at the end of the day you can note how many people have contributed with (each time bigger and each time better) Queen-related features that many other artists can be (and should be) jealous of: concertographies, picture hall, cuttings, archives, etc. And you've strongly contributed to virtually all of them, which reflects the fact that you have demonstrated that we can do something instead of waiting for more and more shitty products, or nice-package-nothing-inside issues. If you want to ignore Greg, it's your choice. But don't let his comments affect you. As I said before, it's time you cut put in better use: write some more ultimate collections, walk your dog, lift some weighs, paint a fresco ... those are more productive activities than trying to teach a pig to sing. |
| brENsKi 03.09.2006 11:49 |
John, one way to shut Mr Brooks up for keeps... he is always saying how this needs proving or that needs proving...so do it...but don;t give him anything he can use here's what i'd suggest...compile a nice two-minute sequence of stuff that is rare - that HE says you don't have...mix it all together...ie 5 secs of hangman studiospliced into say 5 secs of whatever live gigs he says you don;t have...that way...you shut the doubters up and Mr Brooks can go challenge Young Strat Bollox again... my guess is all Mr Brooks is after really is some freebies for the archive with no effort expended...well this way...you get to show him what you have...in a way that is's still highly collectable...ie no-one get hold of anything meaningful...but at the same time undeniable proof of existence and ownership is established beyong all doubt.. go on John, shut the man up for keeps |
| TRS-Romania 03.09.2006 12:19 |
Brenski, I think your suggestion is quite a nice one. Al though I might think that John is entitled to refuse this request. On the other hand a few 5-second snippets wouldn't hurt John or his collection/rarities, but would definitately end the battle that (in my opinion) Greg has been creating/fueling over the last couple of months. John, you are entitled to do what ever you think is right, and I do not want to pressure you to release a few 5 second snippets, but maybe IF you'd decide to do so, you will have Greg in the corner. Maybe this is not your intention, but it would stop most of the "arguments" on Queenzone between you and mr Brooks... I will await your opinion Stefan |
| Josh Henson 03.09.2006 12:23 |
Hey Greg, is the box set still set for a 2070 release to coincide w/ Queen's 100th anniversary? |
| Jay Mantis 03.09.2006 13:50 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: John, one way to shut Mr Brooks up for keeps... he is always saying how this needs proving or that needs proving...so do it...but don;t give him anything he can use here's what i'd suggest...compile a nice two-minute sequence of stuff that is rare - that HE says you don't have...mix it all together...ie 5 secs of hangman studiospliced into say 5 secs of whatever live gigs he says you don;t have...that way...you shut the doubters up and Mr Brooks can go challenge Young Strat Bollox again... my guess is all Mr Brooks is after really is some freebies for the archive with no effort expended...well this way...you get to show him what you have...in a way that is's still highly collectable...ie no-one get hold of anything meaningful...but at the same time undeniable proof of existence and ownership is established beyong all doubt.. go on John, shut the man up for keepsYeah I suggested something like that a while ago as well. It would certainly provide proof once and for all, there's no doubt about that. |
| IvoDutch 03.09.2006 14:01 |
the bitterness and hatred here make me sad. Why can't you guys work this out? Why start all the discussions over and over again? There are thousands and thousands of Queen fans waiting for some new stuff to come out. Why take all the rare stuff into the grave? It's just not worth it. John, if you say you have very rare footage of Queen I believe you. But what's the point of keeping it all for yourself? You can make a lot of fans happy, you know... Maybe Greg made some mistakes in the past, but I believe his intentions are good. If we want some good unreleased stuff on the next official releases, we'll need to help Greg out. Just my thoughts on a sunday evening. |
| TRS-Romania 03.09.2006 15:52 |
Ivo, You totally miss the point. John has spent a lot of time/money and effort in getting the material he has. He either traded, bought or in other ways found the gems that we haven't seen or heard about yet. Since these recordings are from his private collection, I find it very normal that he does not just share them with us just for the sake of sharing or making the majority happy. What I suggested was to put maybe some snippets of certain songs for us to hear, in order to have some people (who seem to doubt John) realise that in fact certain material does excist Again, a few snippets in my opinion would not hurt John's collection of recordings (as a trader/collector), but it would put an end to the herassement of GB towards JSS This is just my humble opinion. Let's see what John says ... Stefan |
| YourValentine 03.09.2006 16:09 |
Great post, John, we can be proud to have you on the notice board. I hope the respect of the QZ members for you means something to you. |
| Lisser 03.09.2006 17:09 |
John, How about a 1 minute snippet of your Hangman acetate with "property of JSS" said every 5 seconds or so through out? ;) |
| Donna13 03.09.2006 22:30 |
My take on this. QPL have paid collectors in the past and have thus set a precedent for paying for some material. This can only add value to the collections still in "pre-negotiation". Hopefully, collectors will want to sell to QPL for the benefit of the Queen fans, and for the benefit of those who are more emotionally involved and who are getting a little older now (Brian, John, Roger, Mary, Freddie's mom and sister). This benefit must be weighed (by the collectors) against the future trade value of the collections. If the collectors are fairly compensated in the near future, all will win. To facilitate the purchasing of collections, Greg might consider working on a set of guidelines (not set in stone - but as a starting point) to smooth out his negotiating efforts regarding certain classes of items. Greg's job seems like enough work for a small staff, not one person. I hope it will be less difficult (all negotiations) going forward. |
| Saint Jiub 03.09.2006 23:54 |
John, HANG on in there, MAN ... Somwhow, I think a five second clip would cause more problems than it would solve ... Really, it is hard to believe in Greg and QPL - unless one is gullible and believes in empty promises (the past six years have been mostly uneventful if one excludes recycled product). |
| Crezchi 04.09.2006 00:47 |
There is NO way to satisfy Greg Brooks in my opinion. He will continue to think that he knows everything about Queen, UNTIL they fire his ass! Like i said, John will win any fight because of his character, and Greg will lose because of his. |
| Togg 04.09.2006 05:23 |
Personally I am at a loss to know who is right and who is wrong here, however, what saddens me is that fact that there are tapes lying around in both collections that will never get air time among the general Queen community of fans. I understand that collectors spend years chasing down rare copies of material and therefore are reluctant to share them, I understand that Queen have tapes they would rather not release to the public, however, tapes in particular of live recordings are effectively already out there and it is sad that they try to keep them locked away. The internet has done many things some good some bad, it has however, been generally good for music fans, allowing never before heard material to surface. Long may it continue, long may we all be fortunate enough to hear songs we up until now have only read about. Fans, genuine fans don't mind the quality of recording they just like to hear there favorite artist doing something new. Long live dodgy releases on the internet, down with private collections on both sides!! |
| john bodega 04.09.2006 05:32 |
I say go the route of choppy low-bitrate samples. The idea that it'll only make people beg for the full length version doesn't make much sense - I heard a 30 second sample of "The Call" here once and I was satisfied (as that was the only part of the song I really enjoyed anyway). Seriously. 30 seconds. 10 seconds. 5 seconds. Doesn't matter. It'd be *really* funny if GB were confronted with that kind of incontrovertible evidence. He'd have to back down and *maybe* things could carry on with a bit more civility. I mean really, who likes arguing? Once everyone knows what's out there and what isn't, it's not an issue anymore and there's no more bullshit speculation. |
| Terence 04.09.2006 09:05 |
nobody can say whether theres footage out there or not unless you actually own the footage like some people do,or you was in on the shoot/production of the video/montage,the outtakes of borap could be either a series of stills put together or actual footage,this shot is a not seen in the video,does this class as an outtake? i think its a great time to be a queen collector,btw i saw thank god its christmas in a local charity shop for £ 35 :( link |
| Queen Archivist 04.09.2006 13:21 |
John Stuart.... Yet, sometimes on occasion, I will contribute positively only to be shot down in flames by Greg. On other occasions, he has started (for no obvious reason) only what I can describe as hate mail to flame me for the fun of it. How do you think this makes me feel? GB: Grow up, John. You sound like a 12 year old. You are big enough and old enough to take these things on the chin. Stop trawling for sympathy. You do this often and I mention it often, but still you need to gather sympathy. How do you think this makes me feel? Who cares, John? Nobody cares how things on QZ "makes you feel" or how they make me feel, or anyone else on QZ feel. It's hard luck if comments offend me or hurt me, and the same is true of you. Hard luck John. Why should you be any different? You make it seem as if how YOU feel is so very important, that it should be every QZ-ers top priority. Honestly John, just grow up a bit and take it on the chin. There have been 5 or 6 instances, that I can remember with my poor memory, of you invting sympathy and support, because you don't like how my words, or those of others, have made you feel. No one other than you and your closest QZ shadows genuinely cares. Get over it. |
| Queen Archivist 04.09.2006 13:23 |
ASTERIK SAID: you know what, I'm going to completely change tack and give Mr Brooks a chance here. Go on then. Where is this change of tack? |
| Queen Archivist 04.09.2006 13:28 |
donttrysuicide wrote: alright, let the games begin. it's arguing time! COME ONE, CALL ALL TO SEE THE GREATEST QUEEN FANS BATTLE IT OUT TO THE ULTIMATE DEATH BY WAY OF INTERNET TYPING! FIRST UP WEIGHING IN AT A MIGHTY 186LBS IS MR. GREG BROOKS. HIS CHALLENGER AND ARCH RIVAL IS IS THE ONE AND ONLY JOHN S. STUART. WHO WILL WIN? WHO WILL DIE? STAY TUNED TO FIND OUT TONIGHT ********** GB: This is FUNNY. Hoorah for someone with something original and amusing to say. Nice one Suicide. You made me laugh out loud. Now don't spoil it with something less original. Leave it at that. By the way... I would win. Of course I would win. It's no contest. But John would win the sympathy vote, obviously, which he'd love. |
| Queen Archivist 04.09.2006 13:48 |
JohnStuart'sValentine.... I mean YourValentine wrote. John, we can be proud to have you on the notice board. I hope the respect of the QZ members for you means something to you. Yes. And I second that. We love you John, you are the best. You are great and fab, and not remotely boring, and QZ is very lucky to have you here with your vast knowledge of the Queen tapes and out-takes which you know about, but which members of the band have never heard of. John is the fabbest of the fab and long may he bore.... long may he be here every day of the rest of his existence, adding.... things to every thread, until the last day of his life arrives and he has contributed to 124, 664,890 threads. God love him and bless him and guide him and bless his cotton socks. |
| TheGame 04.09.2006 13:57 |
Your "comeback" Greg was quite nice this time, but now you've done it again. Can't you two lovebirds take this fight in private? I guess asking you Greg to be more serious on this board is just plain stupid. |
| smileexpert 04.09.2006 14:23 |
I thought I'd chime in here. Like alot of people on this messageboard, I am the sort who will only believe it when I hear/see it. That goes for the Sunbury video, Hangman acetate, and for alot of these rarities that people 'claim' to own or others which apparently exist. So - I (as always) will side with Greg on this one. and will add my vote to the 'prove it' campaign. Why should we believe anyone on this messageboard without substantial proof...?? Oh by the way...I have a lock of Brian's hair...I won't take any pictures of it, because I don't need to. Altho I would be willing to make a trade. (HA!...who believes me??) |
| Jjeroen 04.09.2006 14:39 |
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| Lisser 04.09.2006 16:16 |
J, I wouldn't ever decide to end my friendship with you over something like sharing my master tapes with QPL or you sharing your master tapes with them. I really doubt your other friends here would either. :) |
| Jjeroen 04.09.2006 16:32 |
You said right, Lisser. Indeed, FRIENDS would not ;-) But friends are rare. Especially when it comes to collecting and/or trading. x |
| John S Stuart 04.09.2006 16:36 |
IvoDutch: "John, if you say you have very rare footage of Queen I believe you". Can I point out that I did not say - nor do I own any rare footage. The only footage I have - would be owned by Queen Productions anyway. As for audio rarities, I own a few, but I do not have a copy of 'Face It Alone', or some of the other tracks that have been 'distributed' in here, besides, compared to Greg's all time favourite collector, my collection pales into insignificance. |
| Penetration_Guru 04.09.2006 17:41 |
I disagree with the word "insignificance" - I believe I have a reasonable idea who we're referring to and I'd imagine that the two collections are just differently targetted. This would most simply be illustrated by asking JSS if, when buying material at public auction, he often found himself up against the same rotund gentleman. Some people collect foreign picture sleeves, some collect press packs, some collect every issue of Bo Rhap, etc etc |
| Saint Jiub 04.09.2006 22:07 |
GB's "Queen on film" topic went along smoothly until Greg went apeshit, when John indicated his relevent experience of being paid, but being treated badly by QPL.
Mr. Scully wrote: OK, I don't have any decent copy of SSOR but I do have a question: Queen (Productions) always ask, always get but never give. Fans always offer help but I don't remember anybody getting a single penny or a damn backstage pass. So what can you offer in exchange for such rare recordings? I'm sure there's some sort of a budget for this sort of things. Money? Recordings? John S Stuart wrote: To be fair Martin, I was paid by Queen Productions for the inclusion of 'Ibex' on the FM Box set, but my master tape was not returned (stolen at source was the official response), and I was never compensated in any way for the loss. (Not even with a free CD!). An apology (or even an acknowledgement from someone higher tha GB) may have helped - but the offer was never made. I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit - but it is my 'pension fund', and everyone knows where it is - and that is the real surprise - I flash my wares like a baboon in heat, and not once has anyone other than GB even considered to make the call. Quite strange indeed. Queen Archivist wrote: God! I get so bored with you, John Stuart, hijacking any and every thread you can with your continual moaning about the same old things. Please shut up. This thread has NOTHING to do with Ibex. Life on QZ does NOT revolve around you, you'll be shocked to hear. PLEASE stop going on about your bloody Ibex tape. It was 6 entire years ago now. We lost your tape, we apologised, we paid you, you took the cash, you were invited to the Freddie box launch, you came, you bored us senseless, you mingled, you loved it, you told me you loved it. Now... get over it. You are such a moaning old woman John. You say that no one at Queen, other than me, ever contacted you. Correct. TAKE THE HINT. Ask yourself why that might be. There are good reasons why I was the one who got lumbered having to act as middle man. Work it out, it isn't hard. I'M NOT RESPONDING ANY MORE TO YOU JOHN, BECAUSE YOU ARE SO VERY TEDIOUS AND REPETITIVE AND STILL BITTER, AND IT IS SO TIRESOME AND EXHAUSTIVE. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN TO STOP GOING ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT HAPPENED 6 YEARS AGO. IT IS UNTRUE TO PRETEND QPL DID NOT APOLOGISE. I CAN PULL OUT THE EMAILS TO PROVE YOU WRONG - AND YOU KNOW IT. NOW, WOULD YOU KINDLY FOXTROT OFF AND LEAVE THESE THREADS ALONE - YOU SAD BITTER LITTLE INDIVIDUAL. I'm trying to get on with more constructive and MUCH more interesting things, with people who are neither boring or bitter. Now then, Mr Scully..... your question is next...link |
| Asterik 05.09.2006 12:44 |
Queen Archivist wrote: ASTERIK SAID: you know what, I'm going to completely change tack and give Mr Brooks a chance here. Go on then. Where is this change of tack?I'm staying silent for now aren't I? |
| Bambi 06.09.2006 21:48 |
sighhhhhhhhhh..... |
| TRS-Romania 30.09.2006 17:54 |
Greg Brooks has a problem which is: Dissocial-Narcistic-Paranoid- Antisocial Personality Disorder Personality disorder, usually coming to attention because of a gross disparity between behaviour and the prevailing social norms, and characterized by - very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression - callous unconcern for the feelings of others - gross and persistent attitude of irresponsi- bility and disregard for social norms, rules and obligations - persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights - perceives attacks on his or her character and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack - displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions - shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated _expression of emotion - shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes - markedly dysharmonious attitudes and behaviour, involving usually several areas of functioning, e.g. affectivity, arousal, impulse control, ways of perceiving and thinking, and style of relating to others |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2006 22:53 |
Hahaha... this is awesome. Spam, spam, SPAM!!! |
| john bodega 01.10.2006 05:43 |
TRS-Romania has a problem which is: Dissocial-Narcistic-Paranoid- Antisocial Personality Disorder Personality disorder, usually coming to attention because of a gross disparity between behaviour and the prevailing social norms, and characterized by - very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression - callous unconcern for the feelings of others - gross and persistent attitude of irresponsi- bility and disregard for social norms, rules and obligations - persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights - perceives attacks on his or her character and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack - displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions - shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated _expression of emotion - shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes - markedly dysharmonious attitudes and behaviour, involving usually several areas of functioning, e.g. affectivity, arousal, impulse control, ways of perceiving and thinking, and style of relating to others |
| dont try suicide 01.10.2006 18:32 |
i can't believe how stupid all of you are. greg brooks has stated this plenty of times but every one of you fails to make the connection. the original version that weezer did of "my name is jonas" was lost, but now it has resurfaced. greg is in the process of talking with brian and roger about the inclusion of it for the queen box sets. it's up to brian and roger if they're going to release it. |