| BUofM24 23.08.2006 10:14 |
This topic is for anyone who owns/uses the Brian May Pedal and wants to post links or actual demos from themselves. |
| Jjeroen 23.08.2006 10:26 |
I would... if only the thing would become available in Europe! |
| Adam Baboolal 23.08.2006 11:29 |
It's very welcome, I guess, but what was wrong with the original Digi thread? Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 23.08.2006 12:54 |
well I thought i would start a thread where people, instead of talking about the pedal, would use it and show others of what they think about it and why and use proof. I just think there should be people to show demos of the thing on QZ and not other sites. |
| Adam Baboolal 23.08.2006 14:02 |
link A very good example of WWRY. The best I've heard in fact. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 23.08.2006 14:34 |
that was amazing, hey does anybody who own it want to post THEIR OWN demos on QZ?? Doesnt matter about the quality of playing, just want to hear the tones. Obviously better playing would be better, but it is not that big of a deal because we all know we cannot replicate brian's playing perfectly. Original Demos would be awesome, i will try to post some ASAP |
| xxxpwxxx 23.08.2006 15:43 |
i just got mine last week and i am currently working on a little version of Scandal...so stay tuned!!!! =) |
| BUofM24 23.08.2006 17:22 |
sweet man i cant wait anyways how DO you post stuff up here cuz i got some stuff |
| jasen101 23.08.2006 19:04 |
I must say that i am very skeptical to say the least. The only way you can really get a good quality Brian May replication of sound is by a) having a vox ac 30 amp b) a red special or re-wired strat c) a good treble booster d) preferably a power soak of some kind so that you don't go deaf! To get enough distortion out of the tubes you should have the volume up to at least 70%. e)a phasing pedal and a chorus pedal The only good I can see the pedal doing is replicating the Deacy amp's tones. |
| john bodega 24.08.2006 00:23 |
"Doesnt matter about the quality of playing" It does. I heard a less than stellar playtest of this pedal; really, the tone is meaningless unless someone is doing the right thing to the strings. "preferably a power soak of some kind so that you don't go deaf!" Aw come on, use earplugs you fool! |
| john bodega 24.08.2006 01:58 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: link A very good example of WWRY. The best I've heard in fact. Peace, Adam.Now THIS is what I'm after! Fantastic. |
| Togg 24.08.2006 03:32 |
Well there you have it, good find Adam, that should help lay to rest some of the doubts about it's capabilities |
| AmeriQueen 24.08.2006 05:50 |
jasen101 wrote: I must say that i am very skeptical to say the least. The only way you can really get a good quality Brian May replication of sound is by a) having a vox ac 30 amp b) a red special or re-wired strat c) a good treble booster d) preferably a power soak of some kind so that you don't go deaf! To get enough distortion out of the tubes you should have the volume up to at least 70%. e)a phasing pedal and a chorus pedal The only good I can see the pedal doing is replicating the Deacy amp's tones.I was skeptical too, but the digitech pedal is the real deal. Digital technology is always on the move and I would forcast a future where any and every challenging sound will be digitaly possible to recreate. |
| john bodega 24.08.2006 06:08 |
That WWRY sample is pretty impressive. I wonder - were all the other tests done through a direct line into a sound card? Or was the sound being coloured by different brands of amp and sub-standard playing? |
| BUofM24 24.08.2006 07:38 |
that we will rock you demo is amazing... The pedal is for real. The tones are true but the thing is that everytime you switch a tone, you have to fix the knobs like the gain/treble etc. to get the right sound for each setting. Otherwise it rules and cant wait to hear some more demos |
| BUofM24 25.08.2006 12:58 |
How do you post demos up here? |
| Adam Baboolal 25.08.2006 13:58 |
Use link, etc. etc. Are you posting something nice? |
| BUofM24 25.08.2006 16:58 |
ya man we will rock you solo |
| BUofM24 25.08.2006 17:01 |
link here is the we will rock you solo... sorry not the GREATEST of recording software.. this is with brian may pedal |
| Adam Baboolal 25.08.2006 17:49 |
Really? I thought you said it would be something original, i.e. your own track? Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 25.08.2006 18:00 |
no no no i didnt mean like own track... i meant like do it yourself like post up what YOU play doesnt mean that you have to post whatever you make up... this is to test out the brian may pedal and its accuracy to how he sounds |
| Adam Baboolal 26.08.2006 06:42 |
It's the way you say it, even now. You should've said, post an mp3 of yourself playing one of the presets' track, i.e. Bohemian Rhapsody, Crazy Little thing, etc. etc. Your post before and above still sounds like you want to hear what people are doing with the sounds. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 26.08.2006 13:28 |
well it isnt even restricted to that, if you feel like it you CAN post your own stuff using the brian may pedal... Im sure people hear would rather hear what mp3's of borhap or WWRY etc. sound like with the pedal. But this thread isnt RESTRICTED to only queen riffs and solos. People can post what they want to post using the pedal is the only thing that HAS to be done |
| Adam Baboolal 26.08.2006 14:29 |
I'd rather hear what people are doing with the pedal. I've heard demo after demo now of the preset track uses. I wonder what it would be like in original tracks or even other Queen tracks. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 26.08.2006 14:36 |
adam do you have any suggestions for any queen tracks for anybody who has the pedal? |
| Adam Baboolal 26.08.2006 15:29 |
Ooh... let me see... Millionaire Waltz, Somebody To Love, Don't Stop Me Now, It's Late, Sleeping On The Sidewalk, Hammer To Fall, etc. etc. It'd be nice to hear some ideas being put into play. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 27.08.2006 00:11 |
ill give you a hammer to fall... can anyone find me a backing track to that song.. or would you rather just have the lead guitar and the rythm?? |
| Adam Baboolal 27.08.2006 09:16 |
I had a feeling you'd pick that one! |
| john bodega 27.08.2006 09:58 |
I tell you what, I can record some clean samples and then someone can run them through the pedal. Technically speaking - I can't really do that. My line in for my guitar jack doesn't do anything anymore (methinks it's borked) so the best I can do is record sounds from an amp. |
| BUofM24 27.08.2006 11:27 |
haha well i can play it's late... and im learning somebody to love... i just cant do them "perfect" now |
| BUofM24 27.08.2006 13:59 |
ya zebonka i can try to run them through my pedal record and post |
| jasen101 27.08.2006 17:44 |
re: the 'We Will Rock You' throught he digitech..yeah that sounds great and all...but, you're using a Brian May guitar! I think what a lot of people are wondering is how close they can get with, let's say, a Epiphone Les Paul...now that's what I'd like to hear! |
| Adam Baboolal 28.08.2006 05:34 |
jasen101 wrote: re: the 'We Will Rock You' throught he digitech..yeah that sounds great and all...but, you're using a Brian May guitar! I think what a lot of people are wondering is how close they can get with, let's say, a Epiphone Les Paul...now that's what I'd like to hear!In that case, look at the other Digitech thread... EDIT: Namely here - link |
| BUofM24 28.08.2006 16:42 |
if anyone downloaded mine, that is through a first act POS guitar... and i think it gets pretty damn close with that |
| BUofM24 29.08.2006 08:50 |
of all who have checked out my WWRY demo, that is with a first act guitar, and no amp through a guitar port. The settings on the pedal were Model 4, bottom ring turned all the way to single coil, top to the Red Special. Treble, both rings all the way up. Gain all the way up both rings. Tell me what you think about the sound |
| Adam Baboolal 29.08.2006 09:13 |
For me, it didn't sound right. Don't quite know. Maybe something about the weight of the guitar sound. It's not thick and.. something. Are those the stock settings for the sound you used? Or are they your own settings? Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 29.08.2006 09:41 |
They are my own settings, I basically fooled around a little bit to get a sound like his and I think its close. Adam, what do you propose I do to achieve a better sound? What needs to be added and/or taken away? I've gotten some better sounds recently that was recorded a week ago. Thanks in advance for the information |
| Adam Baboolal 29.08.2006 10:17 |
I don't know how I can help here because guitars and effects like this are difficult to nail. Mainly because I don't know how your equipment works/sounds. I'd need to sit with it, in person. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 29.08.2006 11:05 |
well i'll tinker with some stuff and see what I can come out with... by the way does anybody know about a hammer to fall backing track |
| Adam Baboolal 29.08.2006 14:55 |
More demos from folks on the other site - link Peace, Adam. EDIT: My mistake, they're just comparing the various Brian related sound products. |
| BUofM24 30.08.2006 07:58 |
Correct, I found a hammer to fall backing track... What tone on the pedal... or what model... fits the song the best in anyone's opinion?? |
| john bodega 31.08.2006 14:46 |
Something like the WWRY tone but with less chorus. Sorry I'm not much help, the last one I listened to was the live version. Hey can I put in a special request here? :P Could someone please sing into the harmoniser effect? It'd sound bloody weird, but do it anyway. Haha. |
| BUofM24 31.08.2006 15:10 |
haha wtf man, do u like need a microphone that hooks directly into the pedal... and where do you get that?? |
| john bodega 31.08.2006 22:11 |
It wouldn't need to be the world's best mic for a simple test, but there's loads of mics with a 1/4inch jack output. |
| Adam Baboolal 01.09.2006 07:24 |
You could just get a basic mic from RadioShack and plug it into the pedal. These are the things that make it interesting! Peace, Adam. |
| john bodega 01.09.2006 09:37 |
Haha true enough... see it's things like that, that one oughta try with a new pedal. Nevermind recreating solos.... Hey speaking of solos! link This is a pretty abysmal effort on my part, and there's no Red Special pedal involved (sorry), but I had the 4-track out at TAFE today and I couldn't help giving it a shot. That's my Burns and a Laney Tube Fusion amp. Not really 'the sound' but it's kinda nice. Note the big fuck up at the end where I go for the G string instead of the D. Haha. |
| BUofM24 01.09.2006 09:44 |
I thought that the BR solo tone was pretty accurate, id say 90%. If you were to get the Brian May pedal, i believe it would be spot on. I like the ending lol... Good playing though, right now im gonna try to record the solo and backing guitar for hammer to fall... stay tuned should be out in a few days |
| john bodega 01.09.2006 09:58 |
Thankyou... call it 'nerves', I've never been too stable when the red light comes on! A reputable guitarist once said a Laney offers some of the best natural distortion one might find. True enough, the Tube Fusion I've gotten addicted to at TAFE is pretty el cheapo compared to most bigger amps, but when you throw the volume up very very loud if offers a most pleasant kind of distortion. I find my Peavey Classic 30 offers a very warm creamy tone for chord work, but doesn't give quite enough Gain for the big solos I'm so fond of. Ideally, I'll get myself a Laney at some point in the future so I can have both! |
| BUofM24 01.09.2006 10:42 |
As you probably already know, the Brian May pedal is designed to be played through a 'clean' amp or even just a soundcard and speakers. Your burns and the May Pedal, i believe, will enhance your sound even further. I think it could be a very good investment on your part, if you are very into playing queen. |
| john bodega 01.09.2006 14:28 |
It is something I would dearly love to play around with, for certain. Though.. it looks a bit on the nose for me to have a Burns and not want to pursue Queen full time; I would like to try new stuff with the set up. (The playtest I did proved one thing though - a lot of the sound is in the fingers. Consequently, I didn't really attack the strings correctly at some parts, usually if I get it right the higher bits really do come across much stronger. As is, my one is pretty homogenised - but I was just trying to explain the amp sound). But for sure, Digitech Pedal sounds like a lot of fun. If I ever see one down here I'll definitely think about it. |
| BUofM24 01.09.2006 15:14 |
they dont sell the by you?? that sux. Im lucky i picked one up 15 minutes from me and the clerk there gave me his salespersons discount so i got it under 200 bucks with tax. I def cant wait to post some more demos after my vacation this weekend |
| The Real Wizard 01.09.2006 20:46 |
I have an Epiphone Les Paul and a Fender Princeton amp. I set the distortion to about 1, and use a Marshall Guv'nor pedal to smooth it out and add some sustain. This simple setup about sounds quite similar to Brian's tone at times. That said, I picked up the pedal off eBay for 200 bucks. I'll let you all know how it is when I get it. And to whoever said the style of playing has nothing to do with it... it has everything to do with it, and more. |
| john bodega 02.09.2006 01:26 |
Amen to that! |
| Adam Baboolal 02.09.2006 08:34 |
Good tone there Zeb! I'm starting to hear some folk say that the pedal is missing dynamics when playing. It's been said that it's probably because it's supposed to get the sound as a post effect. In a way, fair enough, but in another, not the best news. Peace, Adam. |
| Megamike The GREAT 02.09.2006 10:37 |
Well, I must say that this pedal is so versitle that you can do a LOT more than the Brian May sounds, and that is what drew me to it, sure I would love to make my Jackson sound like a red special.. which it does a GREAT job in doing. and when I hook the pedal into both mine and my roomates Vox VBM1s you get that nice 3 part harmony thing going.. but what I love doing is changing the pickup selector from HB (which my Jackson has 2 EMG humbuckers) to SC or RS and just listening to the change in sound it makes. right now my favorite patch is #7 heel, it has a LOT of reverb and if you mess with the gain and the control knob you can get it to sound awesome.. I spent over 6 hours just messing with the different sounds it can make through all the selections. and of course I had to play WWRY,KYA, TYMD and such.. our next venture is to piggyback (hook 2 Red Special pedals together) the pedals and see what we can make.. when we do this I will try to upload some of our sound clips on my website. |
| Adam Baboolal 02.09.2006 11:23 |
Mike Preston wrote: ...and when I hook the pedal into both mine and my roomates Vox VBM1s you get that nice 3 part harmony thing going...Logic tells me that that isn't going to sound right at all. Digitech say you should use a clean channel on an amp. I find that the VBM1's are not very good for this as they have a specific sound to them in the first place. Try it with a couple of cleaner amps and tell us how it is then! Completely forgot to post this... yesterday, I got a matching amp for my other Vox_C_RT30 and ran a Digitech GNX3 through both of them with the ping-pong delay doing the Brian stuff. Wow... really good definition between delays. And that was only 2 amps. Didn't even try my Brian guitar with it either. I have a third (AD50VT) that I could set to the center as a dry channel and just pump the delayed effects through those other 2. Peace, Adam. |
| Megamike The GREAT 02.09.2006 12:33 |
Well.. for something that shouldnt sound good it does... of course we are too poor to afford 2 AC30's.. but we are working on it.. lol... I have a small confession... I actually prefer my Jackson over the Burns Brian May.. yes it is true.. |
| john bodega 02.09.2006 12:48 |
That's not a confession, it's a preference :P Whatever suits you. There was a guy at my TAFE who couldn't bear to play the Burns for more than a couple of minutes because he didn't like the lacquered neck. I'm not a fan of such finishes, but I took to the instrument like a duck to water (I wouldn't have bought it unless I'd had so much fun with it in the shop). It won't suit everyone, eh? :D |
| Adam Baboolal 02.09.2006 13:32 |
Hey, I never said it would sound bad! Btw, something interesting here. I was reading up on the Valvetronix stuff before my recent purchase and found out something very interesting. The latest Vox VR30 model has the same speaker and valve-reactor circuitry in the valvetronix stuff. But it just lacks the effects and amp models. But in return, you're getting a cleaner path and nice sounding amp for cheap. It even has a genuine spring reverb! lol link And they're cheap at £135-145 considering what they're supposed to do - link Peace, Adam. |
| john bodega 03.09.2006 14:38 |
Zebonka12 wrote: That's not a confession, it's a preference :P Whatever suits you. There was a guy at my TAFE who couldn't bear to play the Burns for more than a couple of minutes because he didn't like the lacquered neck. I'm not a fan of such finishes, but I took to the instrument like a duck to water (I wouldn't have bought it unless I'd had so much fun with it in the shop). It won't suit everyone, eh? :DThis was said in reference to a post that comes *after* mine, thanks to that lovely bug of QZ. Grrr I hate that shit! |
| BUofM24 03.09.2006 14:49 |
heres the hammer to fall solo... all guitar parts played by me link |
| TRS-Romania 03.09.2006 15:43 |
can I honestly say something? ... you recording was not very good (understatement). Sorry |
| john bodega 04.09.2006 05:26 |
I'm less than fond of this test, it's a little cluttered. It really might've been better to keep it simple, if the pedal tones were what you were demonstrating. |
| BUofM24 04.09.2006 13:43 |
Then should i just play the lead guitar?? or what... |
| john bodega 05.09.2006 01:41 |
It might help. The levels on each guitar part aren't quite level enough for it to be pleasant listening, so perhaps you'd be better off first demonstrating the lead tone, then the backing stuff. |
| BUofM24 05.09.2006 12:53 |
Will do... P.S happy birthday freddie!!! |
| BUofM24 05.09.2006 13:26 |
Here is the solo with the WWRY tone.. link Here is the solo with the Brighton Rock Tone (no delay)link |
| Adam Baboolal 06.09.2006 05:54 |
Hmm... All I can say is that it sounds like something's wrong. The recorded sound reminds me of a pedal's direct output, before an amp, and getting that strange sound. Could you describe how you're recording the pedal please? And where's all that buzz coming from? Peace, Adam. |
| Togg 06.09.2006 06:47 |
Depending on how he's recording this he will get an enormous amount of amp hiss, the pedal accurately recreates the huge amp hiss from an AC30, if you have ever tried one at any volume at all you will know that in order for Brian to get those tones the engineers have to eliminate via gates and many other clever trickery the noise the amp makes first. I was astonished by the amount of hiss an AC30 can produce the first time I heard one. Brain must have to gate the hell out of them in order to get a clean sound. |
| BUofM24 06.09.2006 08:02 |
Ya I'm having a hard time reducing the hiss and also getting the same tone.... any ideas? |
| Togg 06.09.2006 08:19 |
There are lots of factors here, mic placement, mic choice, amp level etc etc You can try moving the mic around the speaker cone to see what difference you get, and certain mics are more susceptible to higher frequencies, If you have one a simple SM57 works pretty well on amp combos. If you don't have available any kind of gate or editing equipment, you are going to have to enlist the help of someone to fade the level up and down at the beginning and end of your recording, either on the amp or at the recording level input. Frankly you will not get rid of it without some form of gate and decent EQ. If you are simply pressing record and going with whatever you get, you will get it all warts and all. Welcome to the wonderful world of music recording! |
| Adam Baboolal 06.09.2006 13:09 |
My experience leads me to believe that it doesn't matter about noise unless it's pretty full-on which is how that recording above is. Get rid of that, and then it's all down to the person's playing. Gates are useful in some situations, but I've never used them for guitars. You can listen to the result of that thought in my MLHBS cover or the AWT cover. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 06.09.2006 21:04 |
Which could be heard where? |
| Togg 07.09.2006 03:35 |
Adam, have you ever played an AC30 full on? Listen to the start of both Return of the Champions and Super live, you can hear the amps humming/hissing before Brian walks on stage, it sounds like the Shuttle is about to lift off. They have to be used carefully but i have often used gates on A class amps. The built in gates on the early SSL desks were very good and they have just got better and better. For recording Brian in heavey mode at the Volume he plays they will certainly have used gates to remove unwanted noise early on in his career, of course these days Pro Tools will clean up all sorts of crap in post production. The problem our friend is having is that he basically has no way of getting rid of that sound from the amp, certain settings on the pedal emulate the crap coming from an AC30 and before you play a note you already have the mother of all hisses going on. |
| Adam Baboolal 07.09.2006 09:08 |
Sorry, but the idea that the noise HE has recorded is because of the pedal, I don't buy that for a second. Plenty other people here have put up samples and they're pretty clean. I know the noise will be there, but not like the noise we're hearing on BU's samples. We're talking about HIS noise, NOT the pedal's modelled aspects. They're fine. Peace, Adam. |
| Togg 07.09.2006 09:16 |
BUofM24 wrote: Ya I'm having a hard time reducing the hiss and also getting the same tone.... any ideas?Well i'm going by what he said, but i'm sure you know better Adam... |
| Adam Baboolal 07.09.2006 10:10 |
Togg wrote:Well, I'm talking about his recordings posted at the top of this page.BUofM24 wrote: Ya I'm having a hard time reducing the hiss and also getting the same tone.... any ideas?Well i'm going by what he said, but i'm sure you know better Adam... Who was arguing about the amp being noisy and loud? I just said that I'd never had that problem. Peace, Adam. |
| BUofM24 08.09.2006 14:09 |
I dont use any kinds of microphones to record guitar. I use guitar port, which is turns your computer and soundcard into an amp. I have a recording program to directly record from that. So it will pick up ANY kind of hissing that comes out of the speakers. Im trying to toy with it to reduce the hissing. I will try some new stuff and see what comes out |
| Adam Baboolal 08.09.2006 15:47 |
BUofM24 wrote: I dont use any kinds of microphones to record guitar. I use guitar port, which is turns your computer and soundcard into an amp. I have a recording program to directly record from that. So it will pick up ANY kind of hissing that comes out of the speakers. Im trying to toy with it to reduce the hissing. I will try some new stuff and see what comes outAh ha... there's your problem. It's recording everything? And just to be clear here, what do you mean it records "ANY kind of hissing that comes out of the speakers"? If you can get a free recording program from the web (Check the Fan Mixes forum Sticky thread) and use the ASIO driver that SHOULD come with a guitar port, you'll get a direct sound from the guitar port. I've never used one, but I was sure it had an ASIO driver. It didn't when it first came out 4 years ago, but should do now. *Goes to see* Yup! Here it is - link Again, I don't have one, but I would expect the ASIO driver to work for recording. And again, the fan mix forum has a thread with suggested free software for recording. Tell us how it goes! Peace, Adam. EDIT: I don't know if you can record with the guitarport. |
| Togg 11.09.2006 04:25 |
Now I will say that to be fair I have never used one, but I don't think this is going to produce a very accurate version of the sound evern when you do clean up the hiss. As I said I have never used one, but I have never been a fan of these gadgets that claim you can plug in and play straight into your computer, I am more than willing to be proved wrong here, but personally I don't think you can beat a good old Amp and Mic set up. |
| BUofM24 18.09.2006 13:57 |
i finally found it... the gate in guitar port!! |
| Adam Baboolal 19.09.2006 10:54 |
Togg wrote: Now I will say that to be fair I have never used one, but I don't think this is going to produce a very accurate version of the sound evern when you do clean up the hiss. As I said I have never used one, but I have never been a fan of these gadgets that claim you can plug in and play straight into your computer, I am more than willing to be proved wrong here, but personally I don't think you can beat a good old Amp and Mic set up.Totally agree. But I have to admit that the valvetronix ad50 I recently got has wowed me with it's modelling and amp setup. You found the gate function, huh? Don't know if that'll help with your buzzing problem, though the hiss will be a bit better for you. Adam. |
| Togg 19.09.2006 11:08 |
Yep, I have one of the first Line 6 pods, the sounds are pretty good, I think I used it a few times noodling around at home, but it's mainly gathering dust as I always seem to end up with my usual set up. Years ago I have (still have somewhere) a Zoom unit that clipped to your belt, it was claimed that Brian used one, I did in fact do some recording with it on a track, and i listened to that track a few days ago, still sounds ok but rather 80's. The Pod is fun and great for practicing at home, so I can see why people love them, I will be interested to hear how your recording goes BU. PS I still love the Bri pedal, it just makes me smile every time I plug in :-) |
| Adam Baboolal 19.09.2006 11:18 |
More samples from the other forum - link People on Youtube now - link |
| BUofM24 20.09.2006 13:56 |
ya the gate on the guitar port really helped a lot with the hissing... now it sounds great when I play!! finally, i was always wondering what that button would do |
| john bodega 21.09.2006 23:24 |
There's no justice... that guy with the Ibanez should send me his pedal. |
| Togg 22.09.2006 05:03 |
He played in the little known key of Lb I think! |
| john bodega 23.09.2006 00:55 |
I mean... more power to him. Never be too hard on a learning guitarist, because even in my short and colourful life I've seen 'em grow fast and get a lot better... But really ; can't he lend me the pedal until he knows what he's doing?? Nah, that's snobbery... I hope he has fun. I'll just have to slum it with the Behringer for now. |
| Togg 25.09.2006 06:29 |
God yes we all have to learn, but I have to say I would refraim from posting it on the web unless it was pretty dam great. But that's just me. |
| Adam Baboolal 25.09.2006 06:39 |
I think I'm the same! Adam. |
| john bodega 25.09.2006 07:08 |
So... anyone run a mic through one of these things yet? :D |
| Adam Baboolal 25.09.2006 15:52 |
You know, I called up my Sound Control Glasgow music store to query something getting fixed. I found out that they had a Digitech Brian May and I wanted to come in and try it. I was even going to take my Brian May guitar. Unfortunately, when I was ready to take the amp I wanted fixed, my brother said he wouldn't drive me there. And while I could try driving there (I'm not a regular driver! And don't know the way), it just seemed silly to drive, drop in the amp, try the pedal and really drive myself there just for those things. The reason I say that is because I could return the 2nd hand amp for a refund, which I chose instead of lugging it into Glasgow. So, it seems I'll have to wait... What's worse is that the guy on the phone seemed enthused when I said I'd bring my Brian guitar to try it out because he then said, "I can even hook you up to an AC30"... *sigh!* Adam. |
| john bodega 26.09.2006 00:34 |
Dude... you should've crawled there if driving wasn't your style! |
| Adam Baboolal 26.09.2006 06:22 |
We could've shared the weight of the amp! Nah, it was a pain to walk around with. I almost bought one online last night, just forgot to bid! Mainly because I could resell and get my money back quickly. It's a thought... Adam. |
| YourValentine 30.09.2006 21:45 |
btt |
| Togg 02.10.2006 04:53 |
Done any more recording BU? |
| BUofM24 02.10.2006 07:24 |
actually, I just bought a new amp which helped a lot. Im fooling around right now with the settings so I can get the best sound. Any songs that you want to hear, I can do my best to record how it sounds through the new amp I bought. |
| Adam Baboolal 02.10.2006 11:51 |
What amp did you get? |
| john bodega 02.10.2006 11:58 |
BUofM24 wrote: actually, I just bought a new amp which helped a lot. Im fooling around right now with the settings so I can get the best sound. Any songs that you want to hear, I can do my best to record how it sounds through the new amp I bought.There is one song I want to hear, it's called plugging a mic into the pedal. :P |
| BUofM24 03.10.2006 07:25 |
i got a line 6 spider II amplifier. The pedal sounds so clean and has little hiss more to come.. for the mike plugged into the pedal, i can do that be back soon |
| john bodega 03.10.2006 07:31 |
Line 6??? Your money! Nah, I'm being very unfair. Early in the year I had an affection for the Spider series, I was able to get 'em nice and loud and have a decent range of effects though. But you know... I got tired of it. The gain, the distortion just sounded so damn fake. I'd just killed my Crate GX40C for the last time, so I was getting used to the sound of amps with decent valves in 'em, and the Line-6 lost it's appeal to me. I'd have gone for a Laney! But all the same, Line-6s had a decent clean sound on 'em when I was playing with 'em (though I think the best clean sound that anyones ever demo'd to me was on a Fender amp at Kosmic last month). Have fun anyway, hehe. |
| Legy 03.10.2006 10:39 |
Line 6 Flextones are good amps. I've owned one for seven years and I've never had a problem. Lindsey Buckingham used a few Line 6 products for his last Fleetwood Mac tour. |
| john bodega 03.10.2006 11:12 |
Well I'm not about to shit on every model they sell... but in my experience, the Spider II amp is better suited to young dudes who like metal. It doesn't even feed back very well unless you put it to 'Insane', which just sounds phoney. |
| BUofM24 03.10.2006 13:47 |
haha your right it is a metal amp, but it plays the digitech pedal extremely clean. so I like it a lot, it also plays the bluesy tones and has nice phaser effects sine chorus effects etc. |
| john bodega 03.10.2006 14:00 |
It has a good versatility in the effects you can choose just on the amp itself - but you know...... it's not a big enough range for me. If I really want effects, I'll get myself a pedal. Hehe. But more power to you, they're certainly not a 'shit' amp I suppose! |
| Adam Baboolal 04.10.2006 05:00 |
Check this out... Sound Control is selling off the Vox VR30 amps at 99 quid! Now... I have been thinking of buying a certain amount for a certain delay effect.. ahem! Adam. |
| john bodega 04.10.2006 11:20 |
Spend! Embrace capitalism! |
| Adam Baboolal 04.10.2006 15:18 |
Btw, if you all search youtube at the moment, you'll find quite a few Brian May pedal tests. Just put in Digitech Brian and you'll get them. Avoid the guy at the summer Namm as he's, in a word, SHITE! Well... he's not that bad! Haven't listened to the Marcio guy yet, let's hope they're worth checking. I'll post back if they're not. Adam. |
| Adam Baboolal 04.10.2006 15:30 |
Marcio Sanches is really SHITE. A plethora of vids on there to demonstrate the pedal and this guy is unfortunately doing the playing. Sorry, but it is bad. I don't consider myself a particularly good guitarist, but by god, I'm better than that guy! Zeb's right, no f-ing justice... Adam. EDIT: After the Spread Your Wings disaster, it does get better. He's actually not bad at all, if a little f-ing show off-ish. |
| john bodega 04.10.2006 23:42 |
Hehe... well it does hurt to see a nice pedal not getting its full use, but hey - he'll get better right?? |
| Fireplace 05.10.2006 07:58 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Marcio Sanches is really SHITE. A plethora of vids on there to demonstrate the pedal and this guy is unfortunately doing the playing. Sorry, but it is bad. I don't consider myself a particularly good guitarist, but by god, I'm better than that guy! Zeb's right, no f-ing justice... Adam. EDIT: After the Spread Your Wings disaster, it does get better. He's actually not bad at all, if a little f-ing show off-ish.LOL! You two are like Waldorf and Statler from The Muppet Show. Loads of comments, but always from the sidelines. |
| Adam Baboolal 05.10.2006 08:21 |
Sidelines? Some people don't need to prove themselves. Adam. |
| john bodega 05.10.2006 10:41 |
Fireplace wrote:No... no, no sideliners here.Though you should see me panic when I see the little red light go on.Adam Baboolal wrote: Marcio Sanches is really SHITE. A plethora of vids on there to demonstrate the pedal and this guy is unfortunately doing the playing. Sorry, but it is bad. I don't consider myself a particularly good guitarist, but by god, I'm better than that guy! Zeb's right, no f-ing justice... Adam. EDIT: After the Spread Your Wings disaster, it does get better. He's actually not bad at all, if a little f-ing show off-ish.LOL! You two are like Waldorf and Statler from The Muppet Show. Loads of comments, but always from the sidelines. |
| Fireplace 05.10.2006 17:21 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Sidelines? Some people don't need to prove themselves. Adam.You're right Adam, you don't have to. Although I think it's time you start using your real name, Roy Thomas! |
| Fireplace 05.10.2006 17:24 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Ouch! There's a feeling I know all too well. I keep wondering how the palm of my hand is capable of producing so much water, especially when I don't want it to. Makes you slide up & down that fretboard effortlessly though....Fireplace wrote:No... no, no sideliners here.Though you should see me panic when I see the little red light go on.Adam Baboolal wrote: Marcio Sanches is really SHITE. A plethora of vids on there to demonstrate the pedal and this guy is unfortunately doing the playing. Sorry, but it is bad. I don't consider myself a particularly good guitarist, but by god, I'm better than that guy! Zeb's right, no f-ing justice... Adam. EDIT: After the Spread Your Wings disaster, it does get better. He's actually not bad at all, if a little f-ing show off-ish.LOL! You two are like Waldorf and Statler from The Muppet Show. Loads of comments, but always from the sidelines. |
| Togg 06.10.2006 03:58 |
Fireplace wrote:LOL, now I know where I've seen these two before!Adam Baboolal wrote: Marcio Sanches is really SHITE. A plethora of vids on there to demonstrate the pedal and this guy is unfortunately doing the playing. Sorry, but it is bad. I don't consider myself a particularly good guitarist, but by god, I'm better than that guy! Zeb's right, no f-ing justice... Adam. EDIT: After the Spread Your Wings disaster, it does get better. He's actually not bad at all, if a little f-ing show off-ish.LOL! You two are like Waldorf and Statler from The Muppet Show. Loads of comments, but always from the sidelines. |
| john bodega 06.10.2006 10:12 |
No pedal tests from me, I'm afraid, but I did upload an audio of the Red Special through a Laney amp. Last time, it was just the Bohemian Rhapsody solo - I threw in a couple of other things this time. link Again, big evidence of my pathological fear of recording lights.... but oh well! At least I had a bit of fun! |
| Donna13 06.10.2006 11:22 |
Wow! That was great! I loved the Somebody to Love solo in the middle - and the low notes at the end of your "overture" sounded just like Brian playing to me! |
| Togg 06.10.2006 11:25 |
Cool, I am a particular fan of the shirt, very Brian May circa 1976, in fact I think the shirt is a major factor in your playing style ;-) Seriously, good stuff the Laney sounds pretty nice, you even had me doing a jig for a while, I haven't sung a sea shanty since my days on the Victory, but that's another story... |
| john bodega 06.10.2006 12:03 |
Ahah, thankyou both.... I'm a big fan of the shirt myself! I must admit, I spent about 4 years absorbing all the Queen I could, and it's only this year that I've tried playing anything else. Needless to say, I do fall into the trap of doing Queen-ish things sometimes; it's like my default setting. Heh. Having said that; I'm glad you guys approve of the Laney. It's not 100% authentic sounds or anything, but the heavy gain seems to compliment the Burns pretty well. |
| Adam Baboolal 10.10.2006 07:29 |
Do you not use a treble booster, Zeb? Adam. |
| john bodega 10.10.2006 08:11 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Do you not use a treble booster, Zeb? Adam.Nope; I'm still at that stage where I'm outfitting meself, saving up... etcetera :D It's not something I've really pursued, though I've always liked my amps to have the treble all the way up. In earlier times I used to cut down the middle, but that (in hindsight) sounded like balls. In that Youtube recording I posted, it was just the Red Special and the Laney amp. There's the obvious change in pickup settings (the 'solo' stuff is the usual neck/middle out of phase, the chord work and later soloing was just all 3 pickups in phase). It was recorded from the other side of the room with an SM58 into a shitty four-track - much to my regret, as they've given us much nicer 4 tracks to work with lately. When my holidays are over I'll have to try some more recording. I'm a big fan of the Laney tube fusion amps.... a lot of people at my TAFE seem to dislike them for a 'muddy' sound, but with suitable amounts of gain applied they feel like a natural companion to the Burns. They sure as hell aren't as muddy as the Marshall Valvestate they have at TAFE, any road! |
| BUofM24 10.10.2006 13:58 |
How much does a red special cost, and where can you buy one besides ebay?? |
| Adam Baboolal 10.10.2006 14:03 |
1) £450-550 and 2) A music shop... |
| Bohardy 10.10.2006 17:16 |
Zeb, your unrelenting use of the word 'TAFE' forced me to finally Google it. I'm amazed I actually held out this long. I feel so enlightened and relieved... |
| john bodega 11.10.2006 00:02 |
Bohardy wrote: Zeb, your unrelenting use of the word 'TAFE' forced me to finally Google it. I'm amazed I actually held out this long. I feel so enlightened and relieved...All in the name of education! |
| Togg 11.10.2006 04:59 |
LOL me too, I finally resorted to Google on that one a couple of weeks ago! |
| john bodega 11.10.2006 06:35 |
Well.... you'd be singing the praises of ol' TAFE if you were there, trust me! It's a joyous place I tell you! |
| BUofM24 11.10.2006 17:07 |
Haha, I know you can get it from a music shop IN THE UK. People in America are ignorant of Queen's music and will not hold anything "Queen-like" in their stores. Are there any particular shops that are located both in the UK and United States, like a chain music store that sells the Red Special or does it mainly sell only in the UK |
| john bodega 12.10.2006 07:13 |
I feel your pain! I only got my Burns because I was extremely lucky. Some guy working in the local shop was selling his (he had it as an investment; didn't even PLAY the thing!) |
| BUofM24 19.10.2006 07:21 |
Anybody know a good music shop in the UK?? I'm kind of tired of looking around for one in the US. So I want to look in the UK at a good music shop. Any Ideas? |
| Togg 19.10.2006 07:35 |
Try this Not tried them yet myself but the prices don't seem too bad link |
| Adam Baboolal 19.10.2006 12:18 |
I was initially going to put an order into them before checking my gf's shop. Pretty good deal, considering. Adam. |
| BUofM24 25.11.2006 23:35 |
There hasnt been any demos posted lately, its been a long times since the release, has anybody else gotten the pedal, or found any new demos? |
| john bodega 26.11.2006 00:25 |
I still don't have one. Can't justify the expenditure at this point in time, but if anyone wants to send me one, give us a yell! |
| guild93 26.11.2006 03:30 |
I've been checking out a few of the pedal demo's and thought I'd add my own. It's A Winters Tale if interested. I didn't use the right pick and it shows a little but nevermind! Here goes: link |
| Adam Baboolal 26.11.2006 06:41 |
Nice to see some genuine chat about this pedal again. Nice new sounds to hear too! But I've given up on this pedal. It just doesn't offer someone like myself anything worth buying into. THE Tip for those guitarists here is to buy a Valvetronix amp (e.g. ad30vt £129) and treble booster (SharpFX retro booster £45). I guarantee you an excellent Brian May tone. And all for less than this digitech pedal will cost you here in the UK! Adam. |
| john bodega 26.11.2006 09:25 |
I have to say... my main interest in the Digitech is purely with the harmoniser. I've no real passion for getting the Deacy sound, and most other Brian May tones are achievable with, you guessed it, a Burns. Nah for me, I'm mainly interested with the harmoniser! |
| Adam Baboolal 26.11.2006 09:47 |
If it's just the harmoniser effect, surely there's a cheaper pedal or even a rack effect that can provide it. Maybe the digitech s200? I picked up one of those for my brother's birthday on ebay at £30. Adam. |
| xxxpwxxx 26.11.2006 10:52 |
i recently made a little recording of some guitar work from 'Party' ...but i don't know how to post it on here =( |
| Adam Baboolal 26.11.2006 11:29 |
xxxpwxxx wrote: i recently made a little recording of some guitar work from 'Party' ...but i don't know how to post it on here =(Try rapidshare.com for uploading. Or putfile.com, maybe. I used link for my file in the "Burns or BM" thread. |
| xxxpwxxx 28.11.2006 06:59 |
ok thanks to Adam i can now post my little diddy of the Party riff...i know it's not exact or anything but it just gives one an insight into the Red Special pedal...plus the 3-part orchestral harmonizer is really fuckin awesome... forgive me for the shitty quality too...enjoy link |
| BUofM24 28.11.2006 15:13 |
not bad at all pw pretty cool sounding, i like the layered harmonizer what kind of guitar are you using |
| xxxpwxxx 29.11.2006 07:20 |
i am using a gold-top 1968 Custom Les Paul...it's custom because it's one of the few Les Paul's that is equipped to have a tremelo bar on it... |
| BUofM24 29.11.2006 23:07 |
woww, never herd of it sounds like a great guitar tho i love les pauls havent seen a 68 though |
| xxxpwxxx 30.11.2006 00:50 |
oh it's a beaut...here it is again...this is a little diddy i wrote myself...i like to say that Brian is playing along haha. but this is the Brighton Rock solo tone (which i love)...and once again..the orchestral harmonizer...hope you like it! |
| xxxpwxxx 30.11.2006 00:50 |
oops...my bad....here it is link |
| BUofM24 02.12.2006 13:34 |
pretty cool stuff man keep rockin' away |
| BUofM24 20.12.2006 19:52 |
Anybody have anthing new? |
| john bodega 20.12.2006 23:28 |
I still don't have one of the pedals to play with. But I have a sitar, so if anyone's willing to come this way and help me do some Sitar >> RS Pedal tests, let me know! |
| inu-liger 21.12.2006 02:09 |
link Me playing along to Ayumi Hamasaki's "Depend On You" using a Stratocaster-type guitar, and the BM Pedal which I've recently acquired. |
| Adam Baboolal 21.12.2006 07:51 |
Dear lord... |
| john bodega 21.12.2006 09:03 |
Of all the songs you'd want to test the pedal with... Can you send me the thing? Just for a weekend? |
| inu-liger 21.12.2006 20:03 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Of all the songs you'd want to test the pedal with... Can you send me the thing? Just for a weekend?How much you wanna pay to rent the thing? :P (Technically, I am still making payments for this, the guitar, and some other equipment totaling about $900, so I couldn't lend it out for free) |
| john bodega 21.12.2006 21:51 |
<b><FONT SIZE=4>Inu-Liger</b> wrote:Hahah good point.Zebonka12 wrote: Of all the songs you'd want to test the pedal with... Can you send me the thing? Just for a weekend?How much you wanna pay to rent the thing? :P (Technically, I am still making payments for this, the guitar, and some other equipment totaling about $900, so I couldn't lend it out for free) Actually I'm thinking of going busking until I can afford one, because they've just showed up at me local music shop. Here's-a-hopin'! |
| inu-liger 22.12.2006 03:21 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Dear lord...What were you expecting...."Bohemian Rhapsody"? :P (Seems I can't do anything different here...) |
| inu-liger 22.12.2006 03:26 |
guild93 wrote: I've been checking out a few of the pedal demo's and thought I'd add my own. It's A Winters Tale if interested. I didn't use the right pick and it shows a little but nevermind! Here goes: linkThis is very nice! Good job :) |
| john bodega 22.12.2006 05:19 |
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| Adam Baboolal 22.12.2006 06:12 |
Why presume what I meant, Inu. Just ask me... Nice playin from yourself. But the sound just seems very blah. Kind of dry and digital. Did you record in 16 or 24-bit? Kudos for posting something. I think, while I'm still curious on how this pedal will feel to play, I don't see it sounding better than what I have. And I also believe, what I have, works out cheaper than getting the pedal here in the UK! Think of that what you will. Adam. |
| inu-liger 23.12.2006 01:20 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Why presume what I meant, Inu. Just ask me... Nice playin from yourself. But the sound just seems very blah. Kind of dry and digital. Did you record in 16 or 24-bit? Kudos for posting something. I think, while I'm still curious on how this pedal will feel to play, I don't see it sounding better than what I have. And I also believe, what I have, works out cheaper than getting the pedal here in the UK! Think of that what you will. Adam.16-bit |
| Adam Baboolal 23.12.2006 01:23 |
Ah HA! Thought it might. |
| Deacon Fan 23.12.2006 02:05 |
*cough* Actually... it was 24. But it's complicated. I actually recorded him :) He could do much better recording locally but I was listening to him on a .. what do you call those personal streaming audio things? Anyway, it was coming thru in stereo and close to 128k.. pretty good for a stream. But yes, he'd sound better recording locally direct into his computer :-P You have no idea how many times I had to hear this riff before that 'take' ;) I enjoy listening to him practice though.. he's a fantastic bassist and only had a guitar & the pedal for a few weeks now, so don't judge him too harshly :-P |
| Adam Baboolal 23.12.2006 08:37 |
The point being, Bubbles, is that the difference between 16 and 24-bit is a more open and lively feeling from DI'd instruments. I first noticed this 7 years ago when I recorded a sequenced part in 16 and then 24-bit. The difference in quality and feel was enough to pursuade me to always record in 24-bit. Hope that helps, Inu. Adam. |
| Deacon Fan 23.12.2006 10:12 |
Yeah, the problem here is that the stream itself was 16 bit, so it probably didn't improve anything having me record in 24.. and actually it was 48/24 but I later regretted it as I preserve these sessions on CD so I had to downsample it anyway. But.. this obviously wasn't an exercise in perfect technical recording.. he was just playing for me (and other friends actually this time) through a Shoutcast thing for Winamp, just for fun. I've suggested something to learn and it turns out he had the idea too.. so watch this space in the future for the coolest demo yet ;) |
| Adam Baboolal 23.12.2006 16:36 |
Are you being serious or are you just trying to mess with Inu's info? Streamed at 128kb and recorded at 24/48? And why did Inu say different? This has just become really confusing. Anyway, if you want to share this software, I could get a sample of my RS (clean split) and ask you to put it through the pedal for us? Yeah? Adam. |
| Deacon Fan 23.12.2006 18:06 |
He clarified to me that he said 16 because of the stream being 16. I'm not messing with Inu. It does seem I'm talking too much on his behalf though, so I'll shut up :-P That's an interesting idea about running a sample through the pedal though.. I'd like to hear that. Not sure what you mean about software though. You could just record something and post a flac or something, and I assume he could run it through the pedal.... But the software he uses to broadcast is at link Listeners only need Winamp and his address though :-P |
| john bodega 23.12.2006 23:07 |
"That's an interesting idea about running a sample through the pedal though.." For the love of Mike! Yes! I've been begging for that - if you can't find someone who likes singing enough to do so, then use a Freddie acapella. There are some good ones around. :P |
| Deacon Fan 24.12.2006 02:54 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "That's an interesting idea about running a sample through the pedal though.." For the love of Mike! Yes! I've been begging for that - if you can't find someone who likes singing enough to do so, then use a Freddie acapella. There are some good ones around. :P?? I meant guitar, not a vocal.. I figured Adam is offering to play a riff and record it, perhaps he could post it, and then Inu or someone else with the pedal could run it through the pedal. Heck, you could try recording something with your sitar and post it for this also ;) |
| Adam Baboolal 24.12.2006 07:09 |
You know what? It isn't going to work. Just thought about it and realised that if Inu didn't record himself, how is he going to playback my sample through the pedal and re-record it back to his machine? Adam. |
| john bodega 24.12.2006 08:45 |
Bubbles Puddifoot wrote:Haha another Zebonka leap in logic... but seriously, I reckon if one is to run samples through any kind of pedal, there's no reason to leave it at guitar samples.Zebonka12 wrote: "That's an interesting idea about running a sample through the pedal though.." For the love of Mike! Yes! I've been begging for that - if you can't find someone who likes singing enough to do so, then use a Freddie acapella. There are some good ones around. :P?? I meant guitar, not a vocal.. I figured Adam is offering to play a riff and record it, perhaps he could post it, and then Inu or someone else with the pedal could run it through the pedal. Heck, you could try recording something with your sitar and post it for this also ;) Hmmm! Sitar! Hehe. |
| Deacon Fan 24.12.2006 08:51 |
Well he COULD have recorded himself. I thought about it too, and while it might be tricky to play a file and record at the same time, it's possible.. but to make it even easier, the file could be burned to a CD and played from an outer player, through the pedal and recorded that way.. there's always a way to do stuff :) He's gonna be away a couple days for the holidays btw. I shoulda had him say something here so you'd know I wasn't messing with him. heh. |
| inu-liger 24.12.2006 17:51 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: You know what? It isn't going to work. Just thought about it and realised that if Inu didn't record himself, how is he going to playback my sample through the pedal and re-record it back to his machine? Adam.Hi. Actually, like Jeff said, I COULD have recorded myself, but I didn't have Goldwave or Adobe Audition installed yet on this PC. I DO have a way I can "record" your samples through the pedal from the soundcard, back to the soundcard...but I would need extra audio cable parts (particularly converters and splitters). If you want, I will do that for you, after the holidays. I just can't go out and buy the stuff at the moment, but if you want to record some samples in the meantime, go right ahead. Happy Holidays till then! -Richard |
| Deacon Fan 24.12.2006 23:51 |
There you have it :) BTW, guild93, I thought your Winter's Tale demo was excellent! |
| guild93 25.12.2006 06:34 |
Bubbles Puddifoot wrote: There you have it :) BTW, guild93, I thought your Winter's Tale demo was excellent!Aww thanks! :-))) |
| BUofM24 09.01.2007 18:56 |
anyone here own a red special? if so where did they get it from... I am trying to order one, and i cant find them anywhere except london. Nothing in America because Burns USA is bought out by some other guitar company... If anyone knows please tell |
| guild93 07.02.2007 03:58 |
ok I got bored a couple of days ago and chucked my attempt at the Brighton Rock solo on youtube link Not my best effort but hopefully better than the Dirty Sanches guys effort ;-) |
| Dan C. 07.02.2007 04:51 |
My brother bought one of these pedals not long after Christmas, and I have to say, It's quite nice! I love the 'Keep Yourself Alive' tones. |
| Adam Baboolal 07.02.2007 07:41 |
Very cool Dan! Just a little harsh sounding when turning the volume pot down, though. Adam. |
| john bodega 16.02.2007 06:44 |
Having been given an ME-50 for my birthday, I've got to ask - how does the harmoniser in the RS Pedal rank as opposed to the one in the Boss pedal? Granted, the RS one does three part harmonies, I'm pretty sure the ME-50 is only doing two part. I have to say... I like my new toy!! I hate pedals with digital interfaces on them (Xoom in particular). I prefer things with clearly labeled knobs. This thing has a lot of effects on it... sounds brill through my lousy Classic 30! |
| john bodega 03.03.2007 11:42 |
Boss ME-50 fun! link There's a resonance filter on this pedal, a quite synthesiser-ee kind of sound (in fact - a dead ringer for the "Who Are You" sound on an ARP). It's altered with a wah pedal. What I find is that if you leave the pedal at around halfway, it gives a Queen-ish kind of sound. Not that authentic, and probably not good enough for anyone with the real Brian May pedal... but I thought it was good for a laugh! |
| Adam Baboolal 03.03.2007 22:36 |
Hey, I was just posting this elsewhere! - link Just chiming in with something to share. It's not that interesting, just an example of the phase settings that were being suggested for BoRhap. Adam. |
| john bodega 03.03.2007 22:48 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Hey, I was just posting this elsewhere! - link Just chiming in with something to share. It's not that interesting, just an example of the phase settings that were being suggested for BoRhap. Adam.Hah awesome. I've been meaning to demo the things one can do with a Red Special, but I'm still a little unsure about what songs to use - and I certainly don't want to look like a (gulp) 'Youtube guitarist'. I hate those!! There is a guy that does Hendrix demonstrations on Youtube - definitely one of the more tasteful and informative dudes one will find there. |
| Adam Baboolal 06.03.2007 14:07 |
Hmm... you have a nice idea there Zeb. I'm more a sound person who can play some bits. So, I can demonstrate some bits. And you're one of those guitarists that can actually play! We could have a joint venture, e.g. I can throw in sound tips and you can demonstrate licks, etc. Maybe we should start a new thread. Hmm..? Adam. |
| john bodega 07.03.2007 08:33 |
Totally! I never pass up an excuse to drag all the equipment out, hehe. |
| Adam Baboolal 15.01.2008 20:12 |
Well...it was my birthday last Saturday and I'd asked for a certain guitar pedal since it wasn't too expensive. Unfortunately, I didn't get it till today and it's...BRILLIANT! Zeb and I certainly couldn't be sure of its potential use outside being a toy. But now I actually have it going through my equipment at home, I can hear some really excellent sounds. I'm running my BHM2006 (with KentArmstrong pickups instead of the stock Burns ones) into the Digitech pedal and it sounds great. I'm impressed by most patches. Not all, but close to being all. :) Does anyone want some demos of stuff? Adam. |
| john bodega 15.01.2008 23:32 |
Hey man that's awesome, I'd love to hear some stuff. I gave up my quest for the Brian May pedal when I got my ME-50, but it'd be great to hear, all the same. |
| inu-liger 16.01.2008 02:10 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Well...it was my birthday last Saturday and I'd asked for a certain guitar pedal since it wasn't too expensive. Unfortunately, I didn't get it till today and it's...BRILLIANT! Zeb and I certainly couldn't be sure of its potential use outside being a toy. But now I actually have it going through my equipment at home, I can hear some really excellent sounds. I'm running my BHM2006 (with KentArmstrong pickups instead of the stock Burns ones) into the Digitech pedal and it sounds great. I'm impressed by most patches. Not all, but close to being all. :) Does anyone want some demos of stuff? Adam.I do :) |
| Togg 16.01.2008 05:14 |
Glad you like it, not wishing to be cynical at all but I do seem to remember rather a lot of naysaying from you when it was released. I think I said at the time it was truely a great little product, but a number of people seemed more concerned with the price than whether it was good or not. I have to say I don't see how you could launch a product of that quality without it costing that much. Either way glad you are now enjoying it, I have had a lot of fun working with it and I certainly think it's the closest thing to Brian's tone without having to go to the expense of buying an AC30 etc. That being said, nothing will ever compare to the shear joy of an AC30 and a treble booster at full vol... |
| Adam Baboolal 16.01.2008 06:15 |
I'll try and do some stuff soon. I'm gutting out my laptop today, so can't record till it's all finished. Togg, I managed to get it for £99! And remember, all the stuff I heard turned me off buying it. Even asking for it on my birthday seemed a little risky. But I thought that I could recoop the money on ebay if I didn't like it. When I play through the pedal, it just makes me wonder how people can make it -sound- so bad! I've been messing a bit with the sounds and it's possible to get some nice tones. Winding down the volume on the BrightonRock patch with delays and playing lightly gets a wonderful clean sound. Very sparkly. Unfortunately, it didn't sound good through my AD50 amp. But DI'd it sounds wayyy better, I'm happy! Anyway, I'll be back...sometime. :) Adam. p.s. Replies in this thread are a little bit all over the place, aren't they?! |
| Togg 16.01.2008 08:15 |
I don't think it's so much that people made it sound bad, more that people find it difficult to capture the sound when recording, which lets face it is difficult unless you have a world class recording studio at your beck and call. Home recording is always somewhat limited, even when you do capture a good basic sound most people don't know how to use any processing effect without destroying it. |
| Legy 17.01.2008 17:19 |
ImdurC, what do you think of your Kents? |
| Adam Baboolal 17.01.2008 20:52 |
artemismoon wrote: ImdurC, what do you think of your Kents?Actually, they're pretty good. Very raw sounding in comparison to the Burns tri's. However, there are times when I play the ending from "Was It All Worth It" and the G chord ending doesn't have the same sound as the record. The Burns Tri's from before -did- have that sound. Apart from that, I'm happy with them. My next move is to get the Adeson's again. Maybe I'll be luckier with them this time. ;) Adam. p.s. still reinstalling my software - it may take a good few days. |
| john bodega 06.02.2008 01:09 |
Okay, so this isn't a Digitech demo, but I didn't want to let this thread die without a fight!! :) link I wanted to see if I could get a hollow, roomy sound by playing with the mic angles in Guitar Rig 2. |
| Adam Baboolal 06.02.2008 10:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Okay, so this isn't a Digitech demo, but I didn't want to let this thread die without a fight!! :) link I wanted to see if I could get a hollow, roomy sound by playing with the mic angles in Guitar Rig 2.That was brill Zeb! Sorry for not posting those demonstrations. I must admit, some of my enthusiasm for the unit has diminished a bit. But I still really like it. I may take a look at it tonight and see about doing the basic demos of the unit. That way, we can step through the process and peeps like yourself can request some other demos of the pedal. Btw, I also have a funny old man mask. Maybe I should make a video too! Can I join the club?! Adam. |
| john bodega 06.02.2008 11:19 |
All aboard the funny mask train, I say!! Haha I dunno what possessed me to wear the mask while playing the solo. It didn't actually make the playing difficult because I don't really need to look at the frets anyway, but FUCK it was distracting... and so HOT a thing to wear in an Australian summer. Time permitting, I'd love to hear demos of the pedal. I just thought I'd keep the thread bumped! :) |
| Legy 07.02.2008 15:46 |
Great stuff, guys! Adam, the Adesons are the holy grail of Tri-sonics, once you play them, you'll never want to play anything else again. |
| john bodega 20.02.2008 04:06 |
Another "Guitar Rig 2" jobby link Come on folks!! I can't do it alone! |
| Bohardy 20.02.2008 07:03 |
Great work Zeb. Where's the delay though?!... |
| john bodega 20.02.2008 10:12 |
Bohardy wrote: Great work Zeb. Where's the delay though?!...It's barey audible, I simply never put it up very high. It is in there, but a bit faster than the actual one. I just found it too distracting to listen to, hehe. |
| Adam Baboolal 21.02.2008 08:31 |
Zeb, that was superb! Loved it. I'd love to learn that track, but never know the way to play it. Especially the way you have which is very cool. Adam. |
| john bodega 21.02.2008 10:10 |
Cheers man! I feel a bit like doing the Winter's Tale solo, or maybe Invisible Man, or perhaps I Was Born To Love You... Winter's Tale jumps out at me the most, it's a personal favourite and I'd like to try and nail that sound using Guitar Rig. Killer Queen would be an obvious choice, now that the multi-tracks are there... it just makes me wish we had Brighton Rock!! Hehe. |
| Adam Baboolal 21.02.2008 11:21 |
I've been compiling the DigiBri tracks and trying to make them interesting to listen to. Adding in your input would be cool, i.e. I record AWT with the Digi and you record it with a GuitarRig patch. Whadya think? Nice comparison of software VS the Digi. Adam. |
| john bodega 21.02.2008 13:29 |
Good plan, I say What I'm doing at the moment is making a video of it for Youtube, but if it would be prudent for me to keep the sound of the solo by itself, I shall do so! It's pretty hard to get it sounding close using Guitar Rig. The mic position can get me part of the way, but it simply don't have a Deacy included with the amps! |
| john bodega 21.02.2008 14:09 |
Well, here it be : link As I suspected, not really 'the' sound. :/ Hmmm.. |