| eenaweena 13.08.2006 08:09 |
i don't know if this was asked before, but i just want to ask again... do you guys think that innuendo was somewhat a premonition of what was going to happen to freddie? i mean come on... listen to innuendo's lyrics. and... the show must go on... and i'm going slightly mad! and to think that "TATDOOL" is a song of reminiscing... he might have reminisced stuff before he died... just asking. i wanna know what you guys think. :D |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 13.08.2006 08:10 |
Well.. He knew he was dying, if that's what you mean? |
| Serry... 13.08.2006 08:47 |
I think you need to research about who wrote TATDOOL and TSMGO... |
| Poo, again 13.08.2006 09:19 |
Serry... wrote: I think you need to research about who wrote TATDOOL and TSMGO...Or you could check out my old conspiracy thread. :P |
| Carol! the Musical 13.08.2006 09:55 |
Well, it was obvious he knew he didn't have a lot of time left. |
| bohemian 11513 13.08.2006 12:25 |
<font color="Black"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ...do you guys think that innuendo was somewhat a premonition of what was going to happen to freddie?...Just listen to BoRhap and you know it all... 16 years ahead of time! :-) |
| eenaweena 14.08.2006 00:28 |
well, yeah. bo rhap. but then... isn't that like his... sitch? i mean, he was confused and all at that time about his sexuality, etc. but tsmgo and tatdool.... it's really like a dying message. i mean, it doesn't have to be the writer istelf leaving the message... maybe God/Allah/Ahura Mazada (for the zoroastrians) was inclined to make queen write those songs just to give the message... :D |
| The prophet's song 14.08.2006 01:00 |
I just finished watching a Queen doco and Brian said they made innuendo knowing that there wasn't much time left, and he pointed ot you can tell by the songs on it, so there you go. |
| Daburcor? 14.08.2006 01:18 |
Freddie's dead!? |
| Want To Live Forever 14.08.2006 02:08 |
He knew he was infected since the 80's, a lot before The Miracle. Maybe thats why Brian wrote The Show MGO, and Brian, Roger and John agreed to do Delilah. Maybe. The truth is that while recording Innuendo, Queen knew that it was going to be the last time they were together in a studio to record an album. Sad isn't it? you can feel that in the whole album. Just Listen to Bijou, or the great Innuendo song itself. I personally love that album. Peace. |
| eenaweena 15.08.2006 02:03 |
probably, yeah. he knew he was going already. buti was just thinking... how come they knew that innuendo was gonna be their last? a life span of a person with aids can be unpredictable... just look at magic johnson. he's still alive, and he's got aids. why'd they write such... sad, reflect-y songs already, when they couldn't have exactly predicted what was going to happen? i might be answering my own question in the following sentence. was it because freddie was becoming thinner and thinner by "the miracle"? |
| -innuendo- 33028 15.08.2006 03:21 |
oh, innuendo the album... i thought you guys talkin about me..haha |
| Bambi 16.08.2006 00:03 |
Do ya think? |
| eenaweena 16.08.2006 01:22 |
-innuendo- wrote: oh, innuendo the album... i thought you guys talkin about me..hahangyahaha! that's okay. i get lost sometimes too. :) |
| Want To Live Forever 19.08.2006 02:06 |
<font color="Black"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: probably, yeah. he knew he was going already. buti was just thinking... how come they knew that innuendo was gonna be their last? a life span of a person with aids can be unpredictable... just look at magic johnson. he's still alive, and he's got aids. why'd they write such... sad, reflect-y songs already, when they couldn't have exactly predicted what was going to happen? i might be answering my own question in the following sentence. was it because freddie was becoming thinner and thinner by "the miracle"?When they got into studio to record Innuendo, Freddie was ILL, not just had AIDS, he was ill and going down. Theres people like Magic Johnson and many others doing alright this days, but Freddie was living his last days, he knew it, the doctors knew it and the rest of Queen knew it, that's why this album is like that, there's no coincidence. The fact is that Freddie and the others knew he didnt have much time left, not only that he was infected or he had AIDS. Maybe the doctors told him how much time he had left. Do you know that nobody dies directly from the virus or AIDS? the virus fux your entire immune system and you can die of anything that a healhty person wont die from it. Freddie sadly died form pneumonia, because there was no cure for him, and in his case it could have been anything, cuz a person with aids can die of any sickness, it just goes more and more complicated till the end. |
| eenaweena 19.08.2006 02:14 |
Want To Live Forever wrote:oh... i see.. thanks for clearing that up for me!!! :D<font color="Black"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: probably, yeah. he knew he was going already. buti was just thinking... how come they knew that innuendo was gonna be their last? a life span of a person with aids can be unpredictable... just look at magic johnson. he's still alive, and he's got aids. why'd they write such... sad, reflect-y songs already, when they couldn't have exactly predicted what was going to happen? i might be answering my own question in the following sentence. was it because freddie was becoming thinner and thinner by "the miracle"?When they got into studio to record Innuendo, Freddie was ILL, not just had AIDS, he was ill and going down. Theres people like Magic Johnson and many others doing alright this days, but Freddie was living his last days, he knew it, the doctors knew it and the rest of Queen knew it, that's why this album is like that, there's no coincidence. The fact is that Freddie and the others knew he didnt have much time left, not only that he was infected or he had AIDS. Maybe the doctors told him how much time he had left. Do you know that nobody dies directly from the virus or AIDS? the virus fux your entire immune system and you can die of anything that a healhty person wont die from it. Freddie sadly died form pneumonia, because there was no cure for him, and in his case it could have been anything, cuz a person with aids can die of any sickness, it just goes more and more complicated till the end. |
| AmeriQueen 19.08.2006 04:54 |
I think the lyrics were surprisingly not his when you think they must have been. But, yeah... Innuendo was made with the knowledge that it was likely the end. So was Made In Heaven(other than the remake songs of the past), and even The Miracle might have had Freddie's condition in mind. I think Freddie wasn't about direct lyrics, but more so about lyrics that could have multiple interpretations and more importantly lyrics that have a timeless, broad stance to define the songs, not any outside thoughts, themes or meanings. |
| deleted user 19.08.2006 07:16 |
DO YOU PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A 13 YEAR OLD CRY!?!?!?!?!? because you have 8'( :'( I shall go and cry in the corner now, thanks alot 8'( :'( |
| eenaweena 19.08.2006 07:44 |
sorry.. |
| -fatty- 2850 19.08.2006 17:51 |
Freddie's final message was in fact printed in the Kensington Gazzette on the Thursday following his death. It read; "Signed copy of Driven By You by Brian May for sale, never been played £3.00 O.N.O. P.O Box 3677, London." fatty. |
| Fireplace 19.08.2006 17:57 |
fatty wrote: Freddie's final message was in fact printed in the Kensington Gazzette on the Thursday following his death. It read; "Signed copy of Driven By You by Brian May for sale, never been played £3.00 O.N.O. P.O Box 3677, London." fatty.That's total and utter pish, Fatty. It was £5.00. Freddie knew his antiques. |
| Carol! the Musical 19.08.2006 18:07 |
<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: probably, yeah. he knew he was going already. buti was just thinking... how come they knew that innuendo was gonna be their last? a life span of a person with aids can be unpredictable... just look at magic johnson. he's still alive, and he's got aids. why'd they write such... sad, reflect-y songs already, when they couldn't have exactly predicted what was going to happen? i might be answering my own question in the following sentence. was it because freddie was becoming thinner and thinner by "the miracle"?Of course Freddie knew he didn't have much time left. In fact, he was the one who decided to stop taking his medicine, in protest to his doctors. The only thing he took was pain killers. |
| ~im a fool~ 19.08.2006 19:52 |
in my opinion, freddie knew he was dying and he knew that there was nothing to do to stop it. it quite simple really, he was depressed. ha. when im depressed the stuff i write is pretty um 'end of the world' sounding. you know what i mean. |
| deleted user 19.08.2006 20:20 |
Um, Roger wrote TATDOOL and Brian wrote TSMGO... |
| ~im a fool~ 19.08.2006 20:25 |
<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: Um, Roger wrote TATDOOL and Brian wrote TSMGO...wha ??? |
| eenaweena 19.08.2006 22:46 |
<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: Um, Roger wrote TATDOOL and Brian wrote TSMGO...i know they did, but what i meant was... did fate make them write those songs? seems like it's not fate. they're already seeing evidence of the end. :D |
| deleted user 19.08.2006 22:59 |
<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote:Yeah, I think they knew Fred didn't have long and they decided to make songs that would make me cry...<font color=purple>Miss James wrote: Um, Roger wrote TATDOOL and Brian wrote TSMGO...i know they did, but what i meant was... did fate make them write those songs? seems like it's not fate. they're already seeing evidence of the end. :D And yet I love those songs.... I dont think I make much sense alot of the time... |
| deleted user 20.08.2006 01:04 |
I think this thread smells |
| eenaweena 20.08.2006 02:55 |
<Font Color="pink">Feed The World wrote: I think this thread smellsout of respect, dude, if you think this thread smells, then don't post here. plain and simple. don't waste your energy on something that you think is... well, bad. i don't want to start a fight with you. so, yeah that's about it. :) |
| deleted user 20.08.2006 10:28 |
It doesn't have to do with fate. They wrote those songs the same time as when Freddie's health was getting worse. So they knew exactly what was taking place. If this were fate, they would have written those songs years before Freddie's health declined and then they would have, supposedly, known what was going to happen to Freddie. I'm the first one to tell you that it is very easy to read into Queen's music - especially when you are new to it. But hey, in the end, it is *just* music. |
| you_rock_my_socks06 24.10.2006 04:13 |
Great King Rat is more so because its about a man in his forties who dies of a sexually transmitted disease cos he slept around too much. Exactly what happened to Freddie |
| mike hunt 24.10.2006 04:26 |
It wasn't freddie's, it was more like queens final message. TSMGO and TATDOOL are brian and rogers message and tribute to freddie while he was still alive. Slightly mad was obviously freddie's experience going thru the pain of his illnes. "it finally happened" the illness has finally taken over my body. "and there you have it." |
| Scott_Mercury 25.10.2006 08:40 |
Let's keep in mind... Freddie wrote more than 50% of the Innuendo album. 1) Innuendo 2) I'm going slightly mad 3) Don't try so Hard 4) All God's People 5) Delilah 6) The Hitman 7) Bijou (yep, even the guitar solo is Freddie's..played by Bri of course) So, to just call TSMGO Brian's or TATDOOL Roger's is probably wrong... Freddie was on a roll... his last creative stand before his death. Now, I don't doubt that Brian introduced TSMGO to the group, and TATDOOL was indeed Roger's original idea.... but we're way stupid to think that Freddie didn't throw Freddie-isms into both of these songs. No way did he just look at the lyric sheet... listen to the pre-conceived chord changes, and say "Sounds good, lets roll with it" Really pisses me off when Brian used to say "There at the end, Freddie was just like, bring me anything darlings, and I'll sing it." (He's said this shit no less than in 5 intervies from about 92-96) This makes Fred sound like a dumbass invalid the last year of his life, who couldn't put a thought together. Fact: Up until the end... Freddie was still the ringleader/chief songwriter/leader of the band that he had always been the main creative force in. Not taking anything away from the other 3. They were talented enough to create the anchor to make it possible for Fred to be a creative force... especially the in the 70's, and during Innuendo. |