theCro 09.08.2006 23:37 |
From what i've heard, Knebworth 1986 - last Queen concert ever, original recording tape was sold to private collector! Can someone tell me more about this or it's bullshit, also there seem to be guy who swears that he seen it on his own eyes- live at knebworth great quality ... |
akindofmagic 10.08.2006 02:19 |
F*ck private collectors... they are the cancer of the giant bands.... always wanting stuff for themselfs, disrespecting the band wishes and fans desires.Private collectors should deliver the stuff they stole to the bands to make it available to the fan community! |
Mkls 10.08.2006 03:06 |
its true - actually i hear a DVD is coming, as QP managed to buy back the master tape! I also hear from "reliable sources" that Sunbury 74 might be the extra DVD - although the footage might not be up to standard for release. |
Togg 10.08.2006 07:16 |
Sorry to burst your bubble but your relyable source to full of it! |
Mkls 10.08.2006 08:29 |
its called *sarcasm* |
deleted user 10.08.2006 09:16 |
its not bullshit, i bought it and im watching it right now |
Lester Burnham 10.08.2006 09:16 |
akindofmagic wrote: F*ck private collectors... they are the cancer of the giant bands.... always wanting stuff for themselfs, disrespecting the band wishes and fans desires.Private collectors should deliver the stuff they stole to the bands to make it available to the fan community!How do you think studio quality versions of 'Self-Made Man', 'My Secret Fantasy', 'Robbery', 'Polar Bear', demos from The Miracle, Innuendo, and Hot Space, 'Silver Salmon', 'Feelings Feelings', and 'Feel Like' (to name but a few) got out? Do you think that was because Queen Productions kindly said, "Ah, so this is what the people want!"? |
thomasquinn 32989 10.08.2006 09:35 |
Miklos wrote: its called *sarcasm*No, it's called *idiocy*. |
onevsion 10.08.2006 09:43 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:'Miklos wrote: its called *sarcasm*No, it's called *idiocy*. Shut up Thomas! Just shut up. |
zephead2112 10.08.2006 10:11 |
According to Brian's recent comment on his site, no audio feed was set up at the Knebworth gig (basically a mistake on somebody's part) so it has gone forever. As I said, this is according to Brian but we can always live in hope that something was captured. I'd definitely like to see the footage at least, as I was at the gig. Happy days....... Cheers, Keith. |
on my way up 10.08.2006 10:22 |
Like I posted in the other topic about knebworth.What about the footage from the freddie mercury inserts on the tribute dvd?there is footage on there that was shown on the big screens so they must have at least the big screen footage.How can they otherwise put it on that tribute dvd? That could still be a cool extra on the budapest dvd:-) |
gnomo 10.08.2006 12:42 |
BHM said: "There is a little bit of documentary footage in existence, also shot at the time separately, by Rudi and Hannes, I think" HTH |
BUofM24 10.08.2006 12:52 |
Actually, technically, there is footage of the concert, but only by somebody who shot the big screen showing the concert. So if you want to see the concert so bad then just get that, decent video quality, very good audio for audience recording |
Jjeroen 11.08.2006 04:42 |
Lester Burnham wrote:Fuck it Lester - some people will NEVER understand.akindofmagic wrote: F*ck private collectors... they are the cancer of the giant bands.... always wanting stuff for themselfs, disrespecting the band wishes and fans desires.Private collectors should deliver the stuff they stole to the bands to make it available to the fan community!How do you think studio quality versions of 'Self-Made Man', 'My Secret Fantasy', 'Robbery', 'Polar Bear', demos from The Miracle, Innuendo, and Hot Space, 'Silver Salmon', 'Feelings Feelings', and 'Feel Like' (to name but a few) got out? Do you think that was because Queen Productions kindly said, "Ah, so this is what the people want!"? They all want their stuff NOW NOW NOW! No, we cannot wait for that recording to help unearth even MORE material... we want it NOW!! |
Benn 11.08.2006 09:54 |
Private collectors are the LIFEBLOOD of the collecting comunity. It is because of them that interest in live material started. Had the first Dylan bootleg not been released at the end of 1969, we may never have had the interest in live material that exists now. Bands play live so that their audience can experience them NOW and IN THE PRESENT. Concerts were not, in essence, played to be listened to 30 years hence. Just because someone holds on to a recording of a show that other people would like them to hear does not make them evil, does it. They are just lucky to be able to have the recording. Giving it back to the band's management would not necessarily necessitate an official release either - it would just mean that it would go from one "collection" to another. More power to the private collectors in my view - long may they reign an hold on to what they have! |
wstüssyb 11.08.2006 13:45 |
Some one posted here a bit ago tape from Genesis studio that had Queen-Knebworth on them, looked to be film tapes, I guess no info really came from that. |
Pim Derks 11.08.2006 14:22 |
// According to Brian's recent comment on his site, no audio feed was set up at the Knebworth gig (basically a mistake on somebody's part) so it has gone forever. // That ofcourse is bullshit. At least part of the show was professionally recorded, how else could they include parts of it on Live Magic (and the bside to Under Pressure in 1999, the Knebworth Mix of UP). |
Rick 11.08.2006 14:35 |
I'm sure that a complete professional audio recording exists. |
InnuendoMay 11.08.2006 15:09 |
<font color=blue>Rick wrote: I'm sure that a complete professional audio recording exists.Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't QP record ALL shows from 1974 onwards? And isn't most of Live Magic from Knebworth? I have seen some of the Professional footage from Knebworth (put on here in a documentry a few months ago) so why only film parts of it? And also, how would the film crew know what to film to capture the best bits of the concert ahead of time? It makes no sense not to have filmed the whole thing! Just my two cents anyway! |
John S Stuart 11.08.2006 15:15 |
Pim Derks wrote: According to Brian's recent comment on his site, no audio feed was set up at the Knebworth gig.. At least part of the show was professionally recorded, how else could they include parts of it on Live Magic (and the bside to Under Pressure in 1999, the Knebworth Mix of UP).That is indeed correct: Queen: Live Magic Edited CD/ LP EMI CDP 7 464132 Recorded: Wembley Stadium, Knebworth Park, and Nepstadion, Budapest. Released: UK 1st December 1986 Produced by Queen / Trip Khalaf Engineered by John 'Teddy Bear' Brough One Vision - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 Tie Your Mother Down - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 Seven Seas Of Rhye - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 A Kind Of Magic - Budapest, 27 July 1986 Under Pressure - Budapest, 27 July 1896 Another One Bites The Dust - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 I Want To Break Free - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 Is This The World We Created - Wembley, 11 July 1986 Bohemian Rhapsody - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 Hammer To Fall - Wembley, 12 July 1986 Radio Ga Ga - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 We Will Rock You - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 Friends Will Be Friends - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 We Are The Champions - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 God Save The Queen - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 Under Pressure Medley UK 7” Promo - Knebworth, 9 August 1986 My guess is that the full version does exist, but is NOT 'good enough' for Queen quality control. That said, I think I also agree that I would prefer a concert from a different era - than yet another version from the Magic tour. |
Mkls 11.08.2006 15:47 |
1. Brian spoke about the video recordings. Not audio. See below Justin S Smith answer to audio tapes: "I saw this stuff on the WWW a while ago. These were simply tapes that I sent to "The Farm" (the Genesis studio) to have copies made. They are indeed the Knebworth multi-tacks of which we have a complete set, plus copies. I had been asked to mix the Knebworth version of Under Pressure for an internet bonus download or something (I think it eventually got put out on a CD) and needed the copies for this reason. Why somebody took a snap of them while they were there is not known - I'll ask the guys at the studio." link 2. Audio exist, multifeed video does NOT. |
Bobby_brown 11.08.2006 15:48 |
Remember when someone spotted the tapes at the Genesis studio for them to remaster the sound for the single release of "Under Pressure"? Well, after that i´ve already read Greg Brooks saying that there isn´t the complete recording of the show. But the guy who remaster the show said that Queen Productions has sent him the tapes from the complete show. If greg Brooks is indeed right about this, this is probably one of the biggest mistakes in Queen history. No video, and not the complete audio!? From a fan point of view, i can tell that it´s very frustating! Take care |
InnuendoMay 11.08.2006 15:55 |
I'm with Rick on this, there mustb e complete audio, as we have both One Vision and God Save The Queen from the concert, and a lot of the songs in the middle, so i think that means they recorded the whole concert! Hopefully! |
Bobby_brown 11.08.2006 18:33 |
Miklos wrote: 1. Brian spoke about the video recordings. Not audio. See below Justin S Smith answer to audio tapes: "I saw this stuff on the WWW a while ago. These were simply tapes that I sent to "The Farm" (the Genesis studio) to have copies made. They are indeed the Knebworth multi-tacks of which we have a complete set, plus copies. I had been asked to mix the Knebworth version of Under Pressure for an internet bonus download or something (I think it eventually got put out on a CD) and needed the copies for this reason. Why somebody took a snap of them while they were there is not known - I'll ask the guys at the studio." link 2. Audio exist, multifeed video does NOT.We were writing the same thing at the same time! Take care |
NTL 12.08.2006 05:52 |
Brian is now saying that no video exists because someone forgot to hook up a machine to record it, however a while back Brian mentioned on his site that they DO have the video but it was recorded direct from the screens which meant they could not do an edit, so was not good enough for release. Maybe they do have the video but dont want it released, so Brian is now putting a lid on it by saying it does not exist at all. |
on my way up 12.08.2006 06:00 |
NTL wrote: Brian is now saying that no video exists because someone forgot to hook up a machine to record it, however a while back Brian mentioned on his site that they DO have the video but it was recorded direct from the screens which meant they could not do an edit, so was not good enough for release. Maybe they do have the video but dont want it released, so Brian is now putting a lid on it by saying it does not exist at all.I think the same. I really believe they have the footage from the big screens because several shots from the big screen can be seen on the freddie tribute-dvd!!Watch the inserts closely and you'll see freddie greeting the audeince in armystyle!!That shot comes from knebworth and was shown on the big screen. If a recording doesn't exist , where does that footage come from? |
on my way up 12.08.2006 06:02 |
Also , there is a compilation of footage from GSTQ and some of it is from Knebworth!! It's easy to see because freddie's pants was different compared to budapest and wembley |
Mkls 12.08.2006 06:09 |
Can you tell me exactly where u see the multicam Knebworth footage on the FM DVD??? |
YourValentine 12.08.2006 06:48 |
Yes, I would like to know that, too. I think the Knebworth footage in the documentaries and FT was taken from the additional footage DoRo filmed. Like for example Radio Gaga on "Rare Live" was not taken from the big screen material, either. I think that the footage for the big screen would not be really usable for a DVD, it was only close ups all the time, who would want to watch this. (me, obviously but that's another story) |
on my way up 12.08.2006 07:38 |
Miklos wrote: Can you tell me exactly where u see the multicam Knebworth footage on the FM DVD???It are 2 shots they used on the fm-inserts. Watch the (I think 3th)insert you can see in that clip that freddie greets the audience like they do in the army!then watch your recording from the big screen just after bohemian rhapsody then you'll see it's the same shot. There is good footage from GSTQ available to in the last insert. Watch it closely and you'll see it is put together from 3 different shows. |
on my way up 12.08.2006 07:42 |
YourValentine wrote: Yes, I would like to know that, too. I think the Knebworth footage in the documentaries and FT was taken from the additional footage DoRo filmed. Like for example Radio Gaga on "Rare Live" was not taken from the big screen material, either. I think that the footage for the big screen would not be really usable for a DVD, it was only close ups all the time, who would want to watch this. (me, obviously but that's another story)I agree. The footage from the big screens isn't good enough to get a release like they did with wembley. But!!it would be great on a dvd like the one from led zeppelin. Maybe we will never know. |