QueenZone discussion #854796

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: Who cares,its only MJ

M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: Michael is quite an outstanding singer.

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

Mr.Jingles wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

Somebody rape me for crying out loud.

Zebonka12 wrote: What a voice, and what a dancer - but really.... I find his music offensive to listen to because it becomes dated so easily. I really don't care if he fiddled with kids. If he did, his name has been dragged through the mud so much he'll probably never get near another kid again, haha. If he didn't, that's just sad I suppose. But it'll teach him that you can Love the children, but you can't "Love" the children.

<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think Michael Jackson is one big conspiracy.

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I thought he was supposed to be bankrupt?

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I thought he was supposed to be bankrupt?

LMFAO no he wasnt your just beliving everything you read in the tabloids and the media its not healthy for your brian

Mr.Jingles wrote:

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I thought he was supposed to be bankrupt?

LMFAO no he wasnt your just beliving everything you read in the tabloids and the media its not healthy for your brian

Which is another reason why MJ is a fuckin' hypocrite. He claims to care for all the children around the world, and yet look at all the extravagant luxurious shit he has at his Neverland Ranch. If Michael really cared, then instead of spending millions on all that crap he should give that money away to charity and save the lives of thousands of children who day by day die from hunger.

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I thought he was supposed to be bankrupt?

LMFAO no he wasnt your just beliving everything you read in the tabloids and the media its not healthy for your brian

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I thought he was supposed to be bankrupt?

LMFAO no he wasnt your just beliving everything you read in the tabloids and the media its not healthy for your brian

Which is another reason why MJ is a fuckin' hypocrite. He claims to care for all the children around the world, and yet look at all the extravagant luxurious shit he has at his Neverland Ranch. If Michael really cared, then instead of spending millions on all that crap he should give that money away to charity and save the lives of thousands of children who day by day die from hunger.

OMG Michael has given Billions to vairus chilrdrens chairtys incase you havnt known

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote: In what could be one of the biggest conspiracies in entertainment history, documents have been sent to Michael Jackson, and his representatives, which reveal a deliberate plan by some former attorneys as well as associates and advisors, to force Mr. Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy. The documents reveal that former attorneys actively solicited other attorneys, vendors and creditors to “join in a petition to place the client in involuntary bankruptcy.” Mr. Jackson who, on June 27, 2006, announced sweeping organizational changes, has instructed his legal team to investigate and file claims against those responsible for conspiracy, bad faith, and self dealing. These efforts may also result in civil and/or criminal charges, where appropriate. In addition, there is a strong possibility that these documents will be forwarded to the U.S. Attorney General for review and possible involvement. “Mr. Jackson is neither shocked or surprised by these revelations,” says Raymone K. Bain, Michael Jackson’s General Manager. “Based on the timing of events that have impacted his personal and professional life in recent years, he has long been suspicious that some of those whom he entrusted to act on his behalf, and to advise him with respect to his personal and business affairs, may not have always acted in his best interests.” Source: Raymone K Bain

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I thought he was supposed to be bankrupt?

LMFAO no he wasnt your just beliving everything you read in the tabloids and the media its not healthy for your brian

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Im sure the police go framing rich black men because they're just ignorant

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Im sure the police go framing rich black men because they're just ignorant

dont be ignorant,stop being ignorant,got your nose blanket,got your nose AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

<font color=yellow/> bismillah!!! wrote:

<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think Michael Jackson is one big conspiracy.

Michael Jackson is a pure talent

<font color=violet><b></b>Stormblõst wrote:

<font color=yellow/> bismillah!!! wrote:

<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think Michael Jackson is one big conspiracy.

Michael Jackson is a pure talent

i agree i love his voice =] but the trial was a conspiracy??

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

No... he's a product of child abuse, and the media has destroyed him. Don't believe what the media tells you. Maybe you should do some research into MJ's father, and then you might decide who should've been taken to court and thrown in jail. Nah, I'll just tell you here... When he was a teenager, his dad gave him female hormones to keep his voice high, because the Jackson 5 was so successful with "young" Michael in the front. His dad was the one who told him every day of his life that he had a big nose. MJ's insecurities hit the point of him feeling the need to have countless plastic surgeries done. Imagine how badly he must have been psychologically abused to the point that he wanted that much surgery done. These are just a couple examples. And people attack Michael, because the media ignores these facts about the man's past. If those things happened to you, you'd probably be pretty messed up in the head, too. Maybe after reading this, you'll show a bit more empathy.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

No... he's a product of child abuse, and the media has destroyed him. Don't believe what the media tells you. Maybe you should do some research into MJ's father, and then you might decide who should've been taken to court and thrown in jail. Nah, I'll just tell you here... When he was a teenager, his dad gave him female hormones to keep his voice high, because the Jackson 5 was so successful with "young" Michael in the front. His dad was the one who told him every day of his life that he had a big nose. MJ's insecurities hit the point of him feeling the need to have countless plastic surgeries done. Imagine how badly he must have been psychologically abused to the point that he wanted that much surgery done. These are just a couple examples. And people attack Michael, because the media ignores these facts about the man's past. If those things happened to you, you'd probably be pretty messed up in the head, too. Maybe after reading this, you'll show a bit more empathy.

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: That is a sad story but he is his own person and he chose to do what he did.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: That is a sad story but he is his own person and he chose to do what he did.

Empathy is a quality that builds over time. I didn't expect you to acquire it immediately.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

No... he's a product of child abuse, and the media has destroyed him. Don't believe what the media tells you. Maybe you should do some research into MJ's father, and then you might decide who should've been taken to court and thrown in jail. Nah, I'll just tell you here... When he was a teenager, his dad gave him female hormones to keep his voice high, because the Jackson 5 was so successful with "young" Michael in the front. His dad was the one who told him every day of his life that he had a big nose. MJ's insecurities hit the point of him feeling the need to have countless plastic surgeries done. Imagine how badly he must have been psychologically abused to the point that he wanted that much surgery done. These are just a couple examples. And people attack Michael, because the media ignores these facts about the man's past. If those things happened to you, you'd probably be pretty messed up in the head, too. Maybe after reading this, you'll show a bit more empathy.

<font color=orange><b>Freddies son</b wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: He's a rapist and should be dealt with accordingly

No... he's a product of child abuse, and the media has destroyed him. Don't believe what the media tells you. Maybe you should do some research into MJ's father, and then you might decide who should've been taken to court and thrown in jail. Nah, I'll just tell you here... When he was a teenager, his dad gave him female hormones to keep his voice high, because the Jackson 5 was so successful with "young" Michael in the front. His dad was the one who told him every day of his life that he had a big nose. MJ's insecurities hit the point of him feeling the need to have countless plastic surgeries done. Imagine how badly he must have been psychologically abused to the point that he wanted that much surgery done. These are just a couple examples. And people attack Michael, because the media ignores these facts about the man's past. If those things happened to you, you'd probably be pretty messed up in the head, too. Maybe after reading this, you'll show a bit more empathy.

Great post most people tend to forget that his dad used to beat him up and make fun off him when he was younger

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Still, you're responsible for your own actions; look at child abuse victims like Dave Pelzer, he's a respectable adult

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Still, you're responsible for your own actions; look at child abuse victims like Dave Pelzer, he's a respectable adult

A good example, but you make the assumption that everyone inherently has equal ability to overcome such trauma. That's quite the assumption to make, and I don't think any psychologist would agree with you.

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: It still does not excuse statutory rape; if this is really bothering Mr Jackson, wouldnt his father be the one to take it up with?

Freddies son wrote: Waah waah waah waah waah Waah waah, wah wah wah waah. Waah? Wah!

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: It still does not excuse statutory rape; if this is really bothering Mr Jackson, wouldnt his father be the one to take it up with?

Where is the proof that he committed rape? MJ has been a media target. Many times before, people have taken him to court, hoping he'll just pay them off. One time though, the trial actually happened, but people stacked the cards against him. For example, at one point they got someone to photograph MJ naked, in hopes that the kids would be able to recall any blemishes on his body. If the kid's memory matches the picture, then he's guilty, right? What total bullshit. Put yourself in the kid's shoes: if you're busy getting raped, the last thing on your mind is checking out the body of your rapist. It later came out that the photographer was a friend of the family, so obviously the kid was being dictated what to say. Anyone without *the bias the media wants you to have* can see how full of shit the entire process was.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: It still does not excuse statutory rape; if this is really bothering Mr Jackson, wouldnt his father be the one to take it up with?

Where is the proof that he committed rape? MJ has been a media target. Many times before, people have taken him to court, hoping he'll just pay them off. One time though, the trial actually happened, but people stacked the cards against him. For example, at one point they got someone to photograph MJ naked, in hopes that the kids would be able to recall any blemishes on his body. If the kid's memory matches the picture, then he's guilty, right? What total bullshit. Put yourself in the kid's shoes: if you're busy getting raped, the last thing on your mind is checking out the body of your rapist. It later came out that the photographer was a friend of the family, so obviously the kid was being dictated what to say. Anyone without *the bias the media wants you to have* can see how full of shit the entire process was.

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: Also, anyone with the slightest education in psychology knows that memory (yes, even your own!) is probably only 10% as useful or accurate as you think it is, especially with young children. It is VERY easy to lead someone (anyone - you, me, but ESPECIALLY a little kid) into a false memory, even without trying (i.e. telling a kid he was raped by Michael Jackson).

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Then you have to choose who you want to believe

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: Also, anyone with the slightest education in psychology knows that memory (yes, even your own!) is probably only 10% as useful or accurate as you think it is, especially with young children. It is VERY easy to lead someone (anyone - you, me, but ESPECIALLY a little kid) into a false memory, even without trying (i.e. telling a kid he was raped by Michael Jackson).

A very good point.

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Then you have to choose who you want to believe

Well, with plenty of negative bias against MJ in the media, I do my little part in showing people the other side of the coin. Playing devil's advocate doesn't necessarily mean I completly stand up for everything MJ has done.

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Thanks, Its kind of like the Mark Hoffa thing, we'll probably never know the truth

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: Thanks, Its kind of like the Mark Hoffa thing, we'll probably never know the truth

Yeah. But as long as people are made aware of the other side of the coin, then we can begin to have intelligent discussion about it, like we are here, rather than just judging the victim of media scrutiny and public ignorance. Again, he's not completely a victim, but he's already received more than he deserves.

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: But what about when he held his baby off that balcony? I mean, even if he was joking or doing that for the cameras (whatever); that didnt help my views on him at all

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: But what about when he held his baby off that balcony? I mean, even if he was joking or doing that for the cameras (whatever); that didnt help my views on him at all

I'm not denying he has done many stupid things that have contributed to his poor public image. But this has nothing to do with his name being attached to the words "homosexual" and "rape".