QueenZone discussion #854646
Mercury and Me question
| vinny2256_ 08.08.2006 14:15 |
I've just finished reading this and found it ok on the whole with some nice pictures but I have a question or so. At the back of the book in the blurb it states at the end "For Hutton that day marked the beginning of a living nightmare." I really don't see how it was such a nightmare. I felt that Jim's writings on the relationship between Mary and himself was incomplete and somewhat biased. Why did they just start disliking each other so much? If Freddie wanted to leave Mary the house, why couldnt Jim respect that? What did he expect? And how the hell would he expect to maintain the house if Freddie did give it to him. Mary was much more trustworthy in my opinion and Freddie was aware she had to raise a family so the house wouldve been much better for her. Jim's whole anger thing over Mary icing him out of the house seems like a touch of bitter jealousy to me. My lack of trust towards Jim comes from how he viewed the moods and streams of thoughts of Freddie and those around him. Sometimes he just states things like "Freddie and so and so never talked any more after that". Plus his lack of emotion when he saw Peter Freestone in Freddie's house. On the whole it lacks emotion and 'thoughts of the time' as well as rationality. Vin |
| flash! 28068 08.08.2006 14:24 |
I reckon he was jealous. He also portrayed his real view on Mary when talking about Freddie's ring. "Mary could say some clumsy things, but perhaps she said them without thinking. One day she suggested that we should ask Freddie to take off the wedding ring that I'd given to him, as when her mother had died her fingers had swollen badly." "The ring stays on, Mary," I said. |
| rocks. 08.08.2006 15:45 |
vinny2256_ wrote: Plus his lack of emotion when he saw Peter Freestone in Freddie's house. On the whole it lacks emotion and 'thoughts of the time' as well as rationality. VinHi, im still debating wether or not to read the book, would you mind elaborating at all on the lack of emotion you mentioned above? I've heard so many things about this book that i'm wondering wether or not its worth going out and looking for. |
| corades 08.08.2006 15:54 |
I really don't want to hurt Jim, as I don't like to hurt anyone, but I think he was jealous and the lack of emotions probably comes from their relationship being shallow. I don't think Freddie and Jim shared much in common, Jim is just a simple guy while Freddie was rich, famous, independent, busy, he travelled a lot. They were never equal in anything, and most probably if Freddie didn't get sick their relations would end sooner or later. I think Jim loved Freddie, and what I listed above, plus Freddie's deeper trust and affection towards Mary made Jim feel uncomfortable and jealous. And in the end he only got a proof of it, but it's painful for him to admit it. He was probably angry even at Phoebe and Joe because they often didn't think of him as Freddie's serious love, and maybe Freddie himself showed him the signs of it-manipulating him and treating him like his other two servants. Well, actually I think there is not a lack of emotions, there's a lack of sincerity. |
| deleted user 08.08.2006 18:33 |
I have been told that Jim doesn't know the meaning of TMI so I really don't want to read it and scar myself for the rest of my life as I am nly very young |
| rocks. 08.08.2006 20:23 |
corades wrote: I really don't want to hurt Jim, as I don't like to hurt anyone, but I think he was jealous and the lack of emotions probably comes from their relationship being shallow. I don't think Freddie and Jim shared much in common, Jim is just a simple guy while Freddie was rich, famous, independent, busy, he travelled a lot. They were never equal in anything, and most probably if Freddie didn't get sick their relations would end sooner or later. I think Jim loved Freddie, and what I listed above, plus Freddie's deeper trust and affection towards Mary made Jim feel uncomfortable and jealous. And in the end he only got a proof of it, but it's painful for him to admit it. He was probably angry even at Phoebe and Joe because they often didn't think of him as Freddie's serious love, and maybe Freddie himself showed him the signs of it-manipulating him and treating him like his other two servants. Well, actually I think there is not a lack of emotions, there's a lack of sincerity.Oh...that seems like a good way of putting it....sorta painting him like an emotional victim too though. |
| 7 seas of Rhye 08.08.2006 22:01 |
<font color="Pink">The Show Must Go On wrote: I have been told that Jim doesn't know the meaning of TMI so I really don't want to read it and scar myself for the rest of my life as I am nly very youngYeah, I heard that too. I'm afraid I'll buy it and then my mom will want to read it and freak out. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 08.08.2006 22:28 |
7 seas of Rhye wrote:TMI regarding sex? No worries. I think the most descriptive Jim gets is when he says, "He kissed me passionately."<font color="Pink">The Show Must Go On wrote: I have been told that Jim doesn't know the meaning of TMI so I really don't want to read it and scar myself for the rest of my life as I am nly very youngYeah, I heard that too. I'm afraid I'll buy it and then my mom will want to read it and freak out. |
| dtucra 09.08.2006 03:25 |
I'm debating too whether to buy it or not, cos it's reprinting now. I've watched an interview with Jim, given years ago. Shallow, as someone put it. Just couldn't get myself to figure how someone complex like Mercury ended up with him, but I guess it was the disease and the fear of ending up alone. What's TMI? Sorry for the ignorance, not native speaker. Mary... Freddie's will proved beyond doubt his feelings and thoughts. I understand the jealousy, but if we look back, who was the most constant faithful loving person, regardless of sex, in his life? He really had no choice if you asked me. And the family was out of question, for the house, I mean. |
| RETROLOVE 09.08.2006 03:47 |
dtucra wrote: |
| dtucra 09.08.2006 04:26 |
Yes, but the disease might have been a reason to keep going the relation, and not to end it the minute he got bored. Plus I don't know really, but was Freddie the one that infected Jim? Maybe he felt guilty. |
| such_a_jollification 09.08.2006 04:38 |
To help shed a little more light on this subject here is a quote from Freddie taken from an interview with journalist and friend, David Wigg in 1987: “I’m very happy with my relationship at the moment, and I really, honestly couldn’t ask for better. I’ve finally found a niche that I was looking for all my life." And here is a quote from Jim taken from Lesley-Ann Jones’ biography of Freddie first published in 1997: “At that stage, Freddie already knew that I was HIV positive. He knew that Joe Fanelli had Aids and would die soon. He had to be realistic. Had he left the bulk of his estate to me, here would it have ended up if I passed away?” However the above quote does seem a little confusing given that just a few lines earlier he had reportedly said: “The world still thinks he left everything to Mary. Why did he leave everything to Mary? Well, because he had promised her. A promise was something he never went back on. Pity she didn’t feel the same. I believe Freddie actually rewrote his will in the September or the October before he died. There seem to have been a few versions of the will though…” It also strikes me as slightly odd that Jim, at that time, told Ms. Jones that he hadn’t actually seen the complete will... Of course at the end of the day none of us were there so we'll probably never know the exact reasons behind everyone's behaviour in this matter, which is perhaps how it should be. All this speculation we (myself included) are currently engaged in seems slightly disrespectful. |
| deleted user 09.08.2006 04:48 |
dtucra wrote: I'm debating too whether to buy it or not, cos it's reprinting now. I've watched an interview with Jim, given years ago. Shallow, as someone put it. Just couldn't get myself to figure how someone complex like Mercury ended up with him, but I guess it was the disease and the fear of ending up alone. What's TMI? Sorry for the ignorance, not native speaker. Mary... Freddie's will proved beyond doubt his feelings and thoughts. I understand the jealousy, but if we look back, who was the most constant faithful loving person, regardless of sex, in his life? He really had no choice if you asked me. And the family was out of question, for the house, I mean.TMI=Too Much Information |
| Ayreon 09.08.2006 09:07 |
There are nice passages in the book though. Indeed, some thing you don't wanna know, but some things are worthwile. |
| dtucra 09.08.2006 10:18 |
TMI=Too Much Information Thank tou. |
| dtucra 09.08.2006 10:23 |
Thank You, I meant! Redoing a will doesn't necessarily mean that essential parts were changed. And as for the "niche" thing... it's the same man that kept saying for years that everything was alright. Remember that "Do I look like I'm dying to you?!". Well, no, Freddie, not like today, but anytime soon. We can't take for granted everything he said. Pretending he was doing well... |
| corades 09.08.2006 11:42 |
I agree it worth reading. It makes you think. “I’m very happy with my relationship at the moment, and I really, honestly couldn’t ask for better. I’ve finally found a niche that I was looking for all my life." -Was it a sincere answer, or one given just to sound right in the interview, we can only guess. If you were him, and you had some dignity, would you say to a journalist that you don't have anyone you really love in th end of your life? No one close, dear and right enough to leave even your considrable property? Finely, for what sake would you talk to a journalist at all, if not to spare some dignity, knowing that friends would talk about him afterwards, including that period of life when he was sick and vulnerable,and people, fans, would rather believe in his own words rather then theirs. Like everybody would, he wanted them to remember him in the most good way possible. Leaving property to a gay man, even if he loved him, would cause a huge scandal at that time, and his family would be ashamed. The family which doesn't need and wouldn't take care of his property right, as they were from another world. Then, what is left, if not to to leave everything to a responsible and caring woman, a real friend, who was faithful to him for all his life? It would satisfy the family and his death would be surrounded with less scandal. I think to get the whole picture on the stuation you need to listen the opinion of several people and only then to make a conclussion. I made my conclussion according to what Phoebe and the others had said or written; from Marry's not telling much about Freddie and not even mentioning Jim, despite Jim's unpleasant remarks about her in the book, and also from what Jim says years after the book was published. And finely, dids say more than words, isn't it? |
| such_a_jollification 09.08.2006 14:30 |
corades wrote: I agree it worth reading. It makes you think. “I’m very happy with my relationship at the moment, and I really, honestly couldn’t ask for better. I’ve finally found a niche that I was looking for all my life." -Was it a sincere answer, or one given just to sound right in the interview, we can only guess. If you were him, and you had some dignity, would you say to a journalist that you don't have anyone you really love in th end of your life? No one close, dear and right enough to leave even your considrable property? Finely, for what sake would you talk to a journalist at all, if not to spare some dignity, knowing that friends would talk about him afterwards, including that period of life when he was sick and vulnerable,and people, fans, would rather believe in his own words rather then theirs. Like everybody would, he wanted them to remember him in the most good way possible.I have no idea what the reasons/motives behind what Freddie said to David Wigg (or indeed anyone else at any other time) were. He may have been completely sincere or he may not. Only one person knew for sure whether what he was saying was the absolute truth or complete fabrication and that was Freddie himself. (Which is also the same for the rest of us). I, like most people, am not a mindreader. All I was trying to point out was that it is ultimately fruitless to speculate about matters that we ourselves are/were not involved in, as we run the risk of getting our 'wires crossed' and arriving at the wrong conclusions, which can be hurtful and injurious to those who were directly involved. |
| rocks. 09.08.2006 17:41 |
I just thought just now, mostly because Im currently re-reading Peter Freestone's book and he said that the only person who was his friend that ever mixed with his family was Mary, because she provided them with some sense of normality?? Maybe a factor of Freddie leaving the bulk of his estate to Mary was because he knew she could deal with his family properly and they wouldnt be nervous or anything, as well as the whole best-friend his whole life, etc... Whatever the reasoning behind Freddie's decision, it does look as if he made the right choice doesnt it. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 09.08.2006 18:22 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote: Whatever the reasoning behind Freddie's decision, it does look as if he made the right choice doesnt it.Yes. Absolutely. Smart man, I'd say. |
| deleted user 09.08.2006 18:47 |
My word. People are people. REAL people who actually exist. We haven't lived their lives. We weren't there. We're not there now. I haven't read the book, I don't know the guy. But I respect his right to be human. |
| rocks. 09.08.2006 19:17 |
<font color="red">The Audacity of Kelley wrote: My word. People are people. REAL people who actually exist. We haven't lived their lives. We weren't there. We're not there now. I haven't read the book, I don't know the guy. But I respect his right to be human.Well everybody has that right, but people are just wondering and they have a right to wonder also, no matter how pointless it is. |
| deleted user 09.08.2006 19:31 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote:Oh, I fully agree ! But, I still find the whole thing disturbing (I also find the fact that he wrote a book disturbing, for that matter. But, like I said, I don't know the whole situation, so I'm going to sit back and go on with my life). I appear to be easily disturbed. :/<font color="red">The Audacity of Kelley wrote: My word. People are people. REAL people who actually exist. We haven't lived their lives. We weren't there. We're not there now. I haven't read the book, I don't know the guy. But I respect his right to be human.Well everybody has that right, but people are just wondering and they have a right to wonder also, no matter how pointless it is. |
| rocks. 10.08.2006 01:43 |
<font color="red">The Audacity of Kelley wrote:Well, then are you disturbed that Peter Freestone wrote a book?WhatMustHeThink wrote:Oh, I fully agree ! But, I still find the whole thing disturbing (I also find the fact that he wrote a book disturbing, for that matter. But, like I said, I don't know the whole situation, so I'm going to sit back and go on with my life). I appear to be easily disturbed. :/<font color="red">The Audacity of Kelley wrote: My word. People are people. REAL people who actually exist. We haven't lived their lives. We weren't there. We're not there now. I haven't read the book, I don't know the guy. But I respect his right to be human.Well everybody has that right, but people are just wondering and they have a right to wonder also, no matter how pointless it is. |
| deleted user 10.08.2006 03:49 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Sure?7 seas of Rhye wrote:TMI regarding sex? No worries. I think the most descriptive Jim gets is when he says, "He kissed me passionately."<font color="Pink">The Show Must Go On wrote: I have been told that Jim doesn't know the meaning of TMI so I really don't want to read it and scar myself for the rest of my life as I am nly very youngYeah, I heard that too. I'm afraid I'll buy it and then my mom will want to read it and freak out. I got told he described it... YUCK |
| deleted user 10.08.2006 17:32 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote: Well, then are you disturbed that Peter Freestone wrote a book?Well, "disturbed" wasn't the best word (just a personal idosyncrasy). But, yeah, I guess I'm not big on biographies/things like that. I'm not saying "don't read them", it's just a personal thing. :) The reason I posted in the first place is because it seemed like this was devolving into "attack Jim" (like ones I've seen turn into "attack John, the crappiest Queen member"). I'm not denying that there may be a jealousy issue, or that they had a perfect relationship. But the, perhaps incorrect, feeling I got from the first page was just... :/ I mean, it IS possible that at least kinda liked each other and made each other happy an itty-bitty-smitty bit. And that they had a relationship which, like any other, wasn't perfect. Maybe I'm being too nice... |
| magicalfreddiemercury 10.08.2006 17:46 |
<font color="Pink">The Show Must Go On wrote:No doubt if he described "it", the book would have been a best seller and you wouldn't have to guess what was discussed in it because it would be common knowledge. The fact is, he doesn't describe "it". In fact, he doesn't describe much of anything in detail - except the main thing he shouldn't have described, IMO. Freddie's last moments.magicalfreddiemercury wrote: TMI regarding sex? No worries. I think the most descriptive Jim gets is when he says, "He kissed me passionately."Sure? I got told he described it... YUCK I wouldn't suggest getting this book, but my opinion has nothing to do with a "yuck" factor. |
| rocks. 10.08.2006 18:05 |
Well, in Peter Freestone described the "last moments" but I assume he did it in less detail and more tactfully... |
| Micrówave 10.08.2006 18:43 |
Where can you get this book? (for under $100!!!) |
| magicalfreddiemercury 10.08.2006 19:24 |
Mircrowave! wrote: Where can you get this book? (for under $100!!!)Have you tried ebay? link |
| deleted user 11.08.2006 00:03 |
they were fighting over Freddie but Mary won..kinda though but Jim and Mary just didnt get along.... |
| deleted user 11.08.2006 04:57 |
der, who would get along with Jim? In my opinion he is creepy, and I dont know what ahs made me think that as the first time I heard about him, I never thought he would be a normal, nice, not creepy guy |
| rocks. 11.08.2006 12:47 |
<font color="red">The Audacity of Kelley wrote:No, your'e not being to nice, nice enough...thats your opinion, i respect it...WhatMustHeThink wrote: Well, then are you disturbed that Peter Freestone wrote a book?Well, "disturbed" wasn't the best word (just a personal idosyncrasy). But, yeah, I guess I'm not big on biographies/things like that. I'm not saying "don't read them", it's just a personal thing. :) The reason I posted in the first place is because it seemed like this was devolving into "attack Jim" (like ones I've seen turn into "attack John, the crappiest Queen member"). I'm not denying that there may be a jealousy issue, or that they had a perfect relationship. But the, perhaps incorrect, feeling I got from the first page was just... :/ I mean, it IS possible that at least kinda liked each other and made each other happy an itty-bitty-smitty bit. And that they had a relationship which, like any other, wasn't perfect. Maybe I'm being too nice... |
| deleted user 12.08.2006 11:08 |
freddie use to cheat alot on jim. jim use to cheat too. wasn't really a fair relationship. |
| rocks. 12.08.2006 18:19 |
<font color="#CC66FF">xloveofmylifex wrote: freddie use to cheat alot on jim. jim use to cheat too. wasn't really a fair relationship.Yah, but Jim still got 500 000 pounds and a plot of land in ireland. |
| FreMe 12.08.2006 18:52 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote:Okay, I would not do what I just wrote.. :s<font color="#CC66FF">xloveofmylifex wrote: freddie use to cheat alot on jim. jim use to cheat too. wasn't really a fair relationship.Yah, but Jim still got 500 000 pounds and a plot of land in ireland. |
| Fireplace 12.08.2006 18:57 |
<font color="Pink">The Show Must Go On wrote: der, who would get along with Jim? In my opinion he is creepy, and I dont know what ahs made me think that as the first time I heard about him, I never thought he would be a normal, nice, not creepy guyYou are 13 years old. That means you have just about learned to pee on the loo. Exactly what kind of psychic powers give you such an insight in people you have never even met (or, self admittedly, heard about) that you can deem them "creepy"? None of us were there, and even though there was a shitload of money to be inherited, all involved were losers. They lost a friend and/or lover who is sorely missed, and who certainly deserved better than people fighting over people fighting over his estate, if you get my drift. Rant over. |
| rocks. 12.08.2006 18:57 |
<font color=FFFFOO>FreMe again :p wrote:You've sparked my curiosity...do tell :PWhatMustHeThink wrote:Okay, I would not do what I just wrote.. :s<font color="#CC66FF">xloveofmylifex wrote: freddie use to cheat alot on jim. jim use to cheat too. wasn't really a fair relationship.Yah, but Jim still got 500 000 pounds and a plot of land in ireland. EDIT: Fireplace...I think you're very right...but that doesnt stop the chatter. |
| Carol! the Musical 12.08.2006 22:49 |
I'm getting this book soon! :D |
| deleted user 13.08.2006 04:49 |
<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote: I'm getting this book soon! :DCan I borrow it... and not return it unless I decide that Jim is more of a creep than what I currently think (btw, I have a feeling that it is impossable for me to think that but, anywho) |
| deleted user 13.08.2006 04:52 |
Fireplace wrote: You are 13 years old. That means you have just about learned to pee on the loo.That is a very hard thing to do you know? Especially as a boy that is being brought up in Australia outback. |
| Fireplace 13.08.2006 05:12 |
<font color="Pink">The Show Must Go On wrote:LOL! OK, OK, I shouldn't have said that. Glad you took it in good humour. But think about it: if it's any of our business at all, why would what was good enough for Freddie not be good enough for us? Jim lived the good times, lost Freddie and contracted HIV. In my book, no amount of stash can compensate for that.Fireplace wrote: You are 13 years old. That means you have just about learned to pee on the loo.That is a very hard thing to do you know? Especially as a boy that is being brought up in Australia outback. |
| Carol! the Musical 17.08.2006 19:03 |
Yay, the book arrived yesterday around 4'o clock, and I read it. The ending made me cry so much! :'( |
| rocks. 17.08.2006 19:17 |
did you like it? |
| deadbird 17.08.2006 20:52 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote:Don't debate on reading a BOOK if youre that intrested. If you wnat all these opinions on if its GOOD or if its BAD.... Decide what you think by reading the book and forming an opinion yourself. Virtually nothing can go wrong.vinny2256_ wrote: Plus his lack of emotion when he saw Peter Freestone in Freddie's house. On the whole it lacks emotion and 'thoughts of the time' as well as rationality. VinHi, im still debating wether or not to read the book, would you mind elaborating at all on the lack of emotion you mentioned above? I've heard so many things about this book that i'm wondering wether or not its worth going out and looking for. |
| rocks. 18.08.2006 01:18 |
deadbird wrote:You make a very good point, but I still dunno if its worht going out and looking for, the only way i've found possible is to order it of amazon or ebay and there is no way im paying 100 bucks for it off amazon, and im only 14, therfor dont have a credit card and my mum wont let me use hers on ebay...WhatMustHeThink wrote:Don't debate on reading a BOOK if youre that intrested. If you wnat all these opinions on if its GOOD or if its BAD.... Decide what you think by reading the book and forming an opinion yourself. Virtually nothing can go wrong.vinny2256_ wrote: Plus his lack of emotion when he saw Peter Freestone in Freddie's house. On the whole it lacks emotion and 'thoughts of the time' as well as rationality. VinHi, im still debating wether or not to read the book, would you mind elaborating at all on the lack of emotion you mentioned above? I've heard so many things about this book that i'm wondering wether or not its worth going out and looking for. |
| deadbird 18.08.2006 05:26 |
ahhhh I see. money, moeny... dangit, I hate money. and that is sort of a ... "rare" book, huh? its out of print, isnt it? whatever. I'm not reading it today, (for the same reason as you.... i scrape my money to live) but maybe later in life when I feel like it. |
| rocks. 18.08.2006 12:47 |
deadbird wrote: ahhhh I see. money, moeny... dangit, I hate money. and that is sort of a ... "rare" book, huh? its out of print, isnt it? whatever. I'm not reading it today, (for the same reason as you.... i scrape my money to live) but maybe later in life when I feel like it.Good plan. :D Money, the root of all evil. *sigh* |
| Carol! the Musical 18.08.2006 21:10 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote: did you like it?Yes, I really did! |
| deleted user 19.08.2006 01:58 |
<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote: Yay, the book arrived yesterday around 4'o clock, and I read it. The ending made me cry so much! :'(Can you send it over here? Or write it down in an e-mail for me? hehe you rule Carol |
| rocks. 19.08.2006 08:34 |
<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote:No bitter feelings towards Jim and his supposed childishness? :-PWhatMustHeThink wrote: did you like it?Yes, I really did! |
| sunsh!ne 23.08.2006 19:17 |
You make a very good point, but I still dunno if its worht going out and looking for, the only way i've found possible is to order it of amazon or ebay and there is no way im paying 100 bucks for it off amazon, and im only 14, therfor dont have a credit card and my mum wont let me use hers on ebay...on amazon.co.uk you can buy the hutton book for GBP 4,99. |
| queen mercury 33542 25.08.2006 02:31 |
I don't want to hurt Mr. Hutton or Ms. Austin. So I'll leave it at this. Maybe Jim felt he had to get his feelings out in the open. It's hard to say what really went on in those days at Garden Lodge.Maybe Jim was jealousor felt hurt, and maybe Mary did too. We really don't know. |
| deleted user 25.08.2006 03:10 |
I want a copy of the book |
| carboengine 25.08.2006 15:17 |
I saw a tv interview of Jim Hutton after he wrote the book and thought, "What a sweet man!" When asked why he did it, he said he had been to Queen conventions and talked to fans, and many of them had misinformation about Freddie, such as he died alone, which wasn't true. I found Mercury and Me to be a true love story. Hutton had no interest in music before he met Freddie, and after he died, he had none again. Freddie used to call Jim, " 'My husband' ... sent me these flowers." It is not so easy watching someone you love live/die. Friends will be friends, right to the end. If that isn't love and loyalty, I don't know what is. Mary inherited a massively expensive property and furnishings, and with fans clamoring all about, I would imagine she had to protect it in whatever way she felt best even if that meant having Jim and Peter move out to the other house on the property, and then eventually move out of there before they were ready. Just think if you had people living in your home and they had friends over, etc., you would never know who was coming and going. It sounded like an extremely strained atmosphere. I've heard it said that Freddie was a recluse the last two years. I didn't get that impression from Jim's book. It seemed like they were going here, going there, flying here and there - just not in the public's eye. As far as too much information about the last days, well, yes, it is very painful to read, but yet again, Jim was clarifying who was there and that Freddie received the pain medications he needed, etc. After he died... "Later that evening Freddie's parents arrived and went to his bedside. Freddie looked so serene, ecstatic and radiant that they asked whether we had put make-up on his face. We said we hadn't." |
| corades 26.08.2006 13:14 |
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone can help me. I've found a scanned copy of "Mercury and Me" in internet but a part is missing in the middle. This missing part starts from "Freddie had mentioned Garden Lodge in passing, but the house was far more magnificent then I'd expected. But at that time, however, despite the beautiful London house, Freddie still thought of Germany as his main home." and ends with "February the 14th 1986 was our first Valentine’s Day together". Could someone please retell in a few words the events that happened in this this missing part? Or maybe someone even have it scanned and can share somehow? |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 26.08.2006 13:20 |
<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote: Yay, the book arrived yesterday around 4'o clock, and I read it. The ending made me cry so much! :'(I won't go too far on what happened to me while reading those last two chapters, but lets just say I couldn't stop crying for hours.... I have the book. I love it and I've read it 4 times now. |
| Carol! the Musical 26.08.2006 13:52 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote:Wow! 4 times! :-D I'm just rereading some of the interesting bits. Like all the times he shopped! xD<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote: Yay, the book arrived yesterday around 4'o clock, and I read it. The ending made me cry so much! :'(I won't go too far on what happened to me while reading those last two chapters, but lets just say I couldn't stop crying for hours.... I have the book. I love it and I've read it 4 times now. |
| Aril 27.08.2006 19:56 |
I STILL refuse to read that trash. I picked up a copy at a local bookstore when it first came out and paged through it. The brief bit that I read about Freddie's last days made me ill. How would you like it if someone wrote that private stuff about you? If he could have left it at his relationship with Freddie and not made it graphic to prove himself to everyone- it might not be so bad. This book was such an invasion of Freddie's privacy, and that it was done by someone who apparently loved him makes it even worse. I've said it before and I'll say it again- if I ever meet Jim Hutton, I'll poke him in the eye. |
| rocks. 27.08.2006 20:13 |
Aril wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again- if I ever meet Jim Hutton, I'll poke him in the eye.Not meaning to knock you from your high and mighty horse, surely, but dont you think you should read the WHOLE book before assuming that? |
| Aril 01.09.2006 21:03 |
Sorry to reply so late- many late work hours. The answer to your question is nope- not off my high horse yet. The bit that I read about Freddies last days was enough to know that Jim Hutton is a big fat fart who wrote a book to say "Look at me Look at me, I knew Freddie Mercury and did naughty things with him". Its one thing to write a memoir about someone you loved and had great times with- I've read many of them (about other celebrities), and I don't recall reading about personal private moments written in gory detail for the whole world to see. Sure, arguments, petty insults and the like have been described, we all know that memoirs don't always cast a favorable shadow. What possible use could we have to know that at the end Freddie was blind and pissing himself? Thats sad. |
| Dusta 07.07.2007 04:02 |
I am reading this book, now, and, so far, my impression is that the book is really about the ego of Jim Hutton. It is not what I expected. Still, I read on. |
| FreddieDearie 15.02.2019 02:54 |
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to add to it anyway. I too am totally confused why some people read "Mercury and Me" and find it truthful, nevermind a sort of "love story." There are sooooo many things that don't add up. Like, why was Jim keeping Freddy from falling over on the toilet and trying to carry him, when he was so OBVIOUSLY fragile? (We see what Freddie looked like during the "Days of Our Lives" video. It doesn't take much imagination how much frailer he was by October/November.) Seriously? They hadn't discovered a bed pan or portable urinal (OR ANY empty container for that matter) in 1991? And what happened to Freddie's bones? Jim says when he picked Freddie up, he heard a LOUD sound of cracking that he presumed to be his bones breaking. Did they tell the doctor, were they treated with splints? Why were they changing his clothes if his bones had broken? If it wasn't broken bones, WTF was it? How do you write a book suggesting Freddie's bones had been broken, and never tell the reader wtf happened? I hate to think this. But it's almost like Jim put that story in the book, to cover his ass, presuming he might be accused of not taking good care of Freddie I get the feeling like MUCH of the book was a CYA with him anticipating that some not very flattering details of him and his life at Garden Lodge may come out in the future That would certainly put a new spin on why Mary didn't let them stay in the house (If that story is even true.) |