QueenZone discussion #853885

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: an effort must be made by both mods and members to turn this place back into the last haven of common sense in the digital Queen world it once was.

Mircrowave! wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: an effort must be made by both mods and members to turn this place back into the last haven of common sense in the digital Queen world it once was.

I think Barbara's put up with quite a lot these last two years. Even you, Mr. Quinn, are guilty of bringing questionable material to Queenzone. But your final paragraph really sums it up. I think it is up to us, the users, to make it worthwhile here. Believe me, I appreciate "good fun" as well, but often it gets taken too far. When we don't think before we post, we're as guilty as the 13 year olds using this board to say "penis" and madly laugh at themseleves 3 hours afterwards. And using Qzone as "therapy" for your dating problems probably isn't a good idea either. If you can't meet a woman without using a computer, take your problems elsewhere!

YourValentine wrote: I think the idea of a "nonsense forum" might work, I have sent Richard an email and asked his opinion. It would give us the chance to "clean up" the other forums without actually deleting or censoring the crappy posts. People might learn how annoying their threads are when they keep being moved to a "trash forum". It could be a compromise that gives us some breathing space. The fan mixes forum is an example how a decent forum can look like. It's not moderated but the users respect each other and share their hobby in peace.

YourValentine wrote: I think the idea of a "nonsense forum" might work, I have sent Richard an email and asked his opinion. It would give us the chance to "clean up" the other forums without actually deleting or censoring the crappy posts. People might learn how annoying their threads are when they keep being moved to a "trash forum". It could be a compromise that gives us some breathing space. The fan mixes forum is an example how a decent forum can look like. It's not moderated but the users respect each other and share their hobby in peace.

<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: Yay! Eat your heart out Quinn!! My idea will be implemented! ;)

Penetration_Guru wrote: A nonsense forum only works if the idiots are willing to stick to it. And the problem is that most of the idiots don't think that what they post IS nonsense

<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: Can't all the "old users" create some interesting topics sometimes? I may be wrong, but I think the best way to "fight" those threads we don't like is posting threads we like. If every "oldie" started one interesting topic every week, this board would be much better, wouldn't it?

<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: Yeh Barb great job! *cough* General Queen Discussion: What if Freddie was a flying horse? reviving the caption thread :-D Just out of interest? 3 cool guys.. Freddie's Alive you wish Freddie was your lover? What if... What if Freddie was not gay?? You May Be an Obsessed Queen Fan If... I don't think these threads fit in there.

Zeni wrote: You label those who disagree with your political or world views as ignorant and facsist and you suggest that they should be taken out back and shot, then you claim that QZ's problems are due to a lack of moderation? QZ's lack of moderation has given you several chances, Caspar; most boards would have kicked you to the curb months ago. If the attitude on QZ is to change, it has to come from the posters themselves, not just moving out excess baggage to a new forum. A Nonsense forum, most likely, will help make things managable, but it won't automcatically mean QZ gets better. As long as certain poisonous attitudes masquerading as "enlightenment and education" remain unchecked, people will think twice before posting. If you really want to help QZ, Caspar, stop jumping down the throat of everyone you disagree with. Of course, that means checking this so-called "tough guy" attitude you have and admitting when you are wrong sometimes.

Bobby_brown wrote: Can someone explain me what has happened here? I know that the last days, some members were "erased"- Alex solan, KillerKing840 (by mistake). Who were the other ones? What has happened that caused all this? i don´t come to the personal forum very often, but i would really like to know what discussion has caused all this! Take care

Haystacks Calhounski wrote:

Zeni wrote: You label those who disagree with your political or world views as ignorant and facsist and you suggest that they should be taken out back and shot, then you claim that QZ's problems are due to a lack of moderation? QZ's lack of moderation has given you several chances, Caspar; most boards would have kicked you to the curb months ago. If the attitude on QZ is to change, it has to come from the posters themselves, not just moving out excess baggage to a new forum. A Nonsense forum, most likely, will help make things managable, but it won't automcatically mean QZ gets better. As long as certain poisonous attitudes masquerading as "enlightenment and education" remain unchecked, people will think twice before posting. If you really want to help QZ, Caspar, stop jumping down the throat of everyone you disagree with. Of course, that means checking this so-called "tough guy" attitude you have and admitting when you are wrong sometimes.

Well said.

Dan Corson wrote:

Haystacks Calhounski wrote:

Zeni wrote: You label those who disagree with your political or world views as ignorant and facsist and you suggest that they should be taken out back and shot, then you claim that QZ's problems are due to a lack of moderation? QZ's lack of moderation has given you several chances, Caspar; most boards would have kicked you to the curb months ago. If the attitude on QZ is to change, it has to come from the posters themselves, not just moving out excess baggage to a new forum. A Nonsense forum, most likely, will help make things managable, but it won't automcatically mean QZ gets better. As long as certain poisonous attitudes masquerading as "enlightenment and education" remain unchecked, people will think twice before posting. If you really want to help QZ, Caspar, stop jumping down the throat of everyone you disagree with. Of course, that means checking this so-called "tough guy" attitude you have and admitting when you are wrong sometimes.

Well said.

I concur.

<font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:

Dan Corson wrote:

Haystacks Calhounski wrote:

Zeni wrote: You label those who disagree with your political or world views as ignorant and facsist and you suggest that they should be taken out back and shot, then you claim that QZ's problems are due to a lack of moderation? QZ's lack of moderation has given you several chances, Caspar; most boards would have kicked you to the curb months ago. If the attitude on QZ is to change, it has to come from the posters themselves, not just moving out excess baggage to a new forum. A Nonsense forum, most likely, will help make things managable, but it won't automcatically mean QZ gets better. As long as certain poisonous attitudes masquerading as "enlightenment and education" remain unchecked, people will think twice before posting. If you really want to help QZ, Caspar, stop jumping down the throat of everyone you disagree with. Of course, that means checking this so-called "tough guy" attitude you have and admitting when you are wrong sometimes.

Well said.

I concur.

Ditto.

<font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:

Dan Corson wrote:

Haystacks Calhounski wrote:

Zeni wrote: You label those who disagree with your political or world views as ignorant and facsist and you suggest that they should be taken out back and shot, then you claim that QZ's problems are due to a lack of moderation? QZ's lack of moderation has given you several chances, Caspar; most boards would have kicked you to the curb months ago. If the attitude on QZ is to change, it has to come from the posters themselves, not just moving out excess baggage to a new forum. A Nonsense forum, most likely, will help make things managable, but it won't automcatically mean QZ gets better. As long as certain poisonous attitudes masquerading as "enlightenment and education" remain unchecked, people will think twice before posting. If you really want to help QZ, Caspar, stop jumping down the throat of everyone you disagree with. Of course, that means checking this so-called "tough guy" attitude you have and admitting when you are wrong sometimes.

Well said.

I concur.

Ditto.

<font color="red">The Audacity of Kelley wrote:

<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: Yeh Barb great job! *cough* General Queen Discussion: What if Freddie was a flying horse? reviving the caption thread :-D Just out of interest? 3 cool guys.. Freddie's Alive you wish Freddie was your lover? What if... What if Freddie was not gay?? You May Be an Obsessed Queen Fan If... I don't think these threads fit in there.

Okay, I just wanted to make it clear that the "What if..." thread I created was a joke since I seem (mostly) incapable of posting anything to make people in the other nonsense threads clam up, and I thought being silly was more productive (and fun) than getting mad. Sorry if I'm overly defensive but this is because I agree with almost everything that other people here are saying, and I'm pretty miffed with how - in just the time I've been here - there's been an increase in "spam" threads. Personally, I don't mind the "caption threads" and the "group hug" threads. I do think that "What if Freddie wasn't gay" and "Have you seen THOSE tapes" and other such things are pointless (in a bad way), but I wouldn't ask for them to be deleted or moved. I mean, I don't like the "___ Appreciation" threads, but I know many people do - and they don't hurt me by existing, I just don't read them.

<font color="lime">KillerKing840 wrote: Can't all the "old users" create some interesting topics sometimes? I may be wrong, but I think the best way to "fight" those threads we don't like is posting threads we like. If every "oldie" started one interesting topic every week, this board would be much better, wouldn't it?

fatty wrote: I like the idea and I think I'll be very happy there. fatty.

Bohardy wrote: Unfortunately I also think Queen are to blame for the current state of the boards. The resurgence of the Queen name in the last few years has generated many new young fans. Nothing much was going on in the Queen world when most of us old-timers first started loitering here, yet the recent activity has created an influx of teenage Queen fans that are net savvy and seemingly unable to string a sentence together. If the band had been laid to rest in a dignified manner a decade ago, the boards here would still be in the idyllic state that they were in at the turn of the century.

<b><font color=000000>?Poppy? wrote: In some ways I think all of you are almost too inclined to blame the ‘teenie boppers’ for the decline fo this board. Fair enough, it is mainly their doing but not all. I think if you want the board to become a better place you’ve got to stop blaming others and actually do something about it yourselves. I think you also have to remember that not all the teenagers here are the ‘Brian is soooooooo HOT!!!!1’ types and some of them actually enjoy participating in serious discussions about the band. Also, I find it slightly ironic that some of the oldies can point fingers when you often participate in threads that just say ‘Vagina aah yeah’ which doesn’t show much maturity and certainly isn’t setting an example. And it’s not just teengagers starting the pointless threads, there are adults on here that act like 12 year olds, (one comes to mind immediately..) So rather that sitting here writing essays about how ’immature’ and ’braindead’ these teens are why don’t you actually create some intelligent threads? *Edit* I've also noticed that some of the people who have posted in this thread have obviously only come out of 'hiding' to answer this thread, it shows, people are quite happy to sit here and complain about it but haven't actually made the effort to do anything about it.

Mr. Scully wrote: There's no solution. You can keep the board full of spammers and teenagers posting bullshit OR use moderation / censorship. Both options are wrong. The board is literally full of shit these days but at least I got rid of my addiction to QueenZone :-) I used to visit the board like 50 times a day, nowadays it's once per two days...

<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: Why bother if they will hijack the thread with nonsense? Which happens all the time.

Sure the brat pack isn't the only one to blame, you're right about that. There's just no unity on this board. The adults have their flaws too, sure. You can't have a totally serious Personal Section, then it would be too boring. But there's a difference in posting fun threads or using the board as a bloody chatbox.

Edit* People are trying to make this board a better place, i 've had some suggestions too. There are some peeps on here that like to stir things up just a little bit, we are aware of that.

YourValentine wrote: long time running

<b><font color=000000>?Poppy? wrote:

<b><font color="green">The Fairy King wrote: Why bother if they will hijack the thread with nonsense? Which happens all the time.

If everyone has that outlook then the board can only get worse. Perhaps if everybody did ‘bother’ then it may become a better place.

Sure the brat pack isn't the only one to blame, you're right about that. There's just no unity on this board. The adults have their flaws too, sure. You can't have a totally serious Personal Section, then it would be too boring. But there's a difference in posting fun threads or using the board as a bloody chatbox.

I agree, it would be boring, but to be fair, your very own ‘Queenie above you thread’ is just an invitation for them to spam up the board with their pointless posts.

Edit* People are trying to make this board a better place, i 've had some suggestions too. There are some peeps on here that like to stir things up just a little bit, we are aware of that.

True, let’s hope it improves then.

Togg wrote: I am not exactly sure what has been going on but I think I have the gist of it. As for my two pennies worth, I personally think we do need more moderation here, however I guess a nonsense forum might help. I am fed up with the crap that gets posted here and I also get fed up with prats like Greg coming here purely to get folk arguing, he should know better but sadly he doesn't and we should know better for allowing it. Most of the time no moderators works well, however there is a point at which it just makes this board a joke, having to wade thought pages of crap and rubbish from the likes of Greg just make it impossible to find genuine people sometimes with a real love for the music we all claim to support. As I said I'm not too sure what happened as I've been travelling again, however I am sure it was not before time...

<font color=blue>Rick wrote: Why not put the older QZ members/the more serious members in the moderation team?

Mircrowave! wrote: *passes Midol to every Qzone member* How bout if you don't like the post, just ignore it.

Serry... wrote: Penetration_Guru, ThomasQuinn, Bobby_Brown

Mircrowave! wrote: Yes, but has somebody actually contacted the offender NICELY and asked them to stop? Kill 'em with kindness, I say. Obviously someone like say Matias May*, who chooses profanity every other word, must have some sense of decency. Or am I really just beating a dead horse here? A police force can't be the only answer! * author of the "Flying Horse" thread in the GENERAL DISCUSSION area

<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: I think fairy king would be a good one

Jenny Talia wrote: revolution

Jenny Talia wrote: .... I also nominate Lester and Lisser, their names sound pretty (and they smell yummy)

wstüssyb wrote: If we nominate a mod, it should NOT be some one every one likes...Mods are not to be well liked, but people who will help make the place better, if you can actually do that here, which I think will not happen with Mods.

wstüssyb wrote: If we nominate a mod, it should NOT be some one every one likes...Mods are not to be well liked, but people who will help make the place better, if you can actually do that here, which I think will not happen with Mods.

pma wrote:

YourValentine wrote: long time running

Long 'distance' running, you're now partially confusing it with my other hobby 'Long time loving' (ie. Me luv u long time)

iGSM wrote: Creeps, there are some ungrateful fuckers. Shut the fuck up and eat the cunting cake.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

iGSM wrote: Creeps, there are some ungrateful fuckers. Shut the fuck up and eat the cunting cake.

Cake can do that? Wow, QZ is the best. You learn something every day... and it's only a bit past midnight!

iGSM wrote: Creeps, there are some ungrateful fuckers. Shut the fuck up and eat the cunting cake.

Janet wrote:

wstüssyb wrote: If we nominate a mod, it should NOT be some one every one likes...Mods are not to be well liked, but people who will help make the place better, if you can actually do that here, which I think will not happen with Mods.

Quite true William. And I am wondering, if there was indeed a moderator or two appointed, would people even be willing to agree and abide by their decisions? I can remember Pieter being appointed mod several years ago, only to be treated like someone who committed Murder One when he banned Haole. It was completely rediculous.

Lester Burnham wrote: I appreciate the nominations, but I'm not very level-headed and would go ban-crazy on all the idiots here... I think a nice set of rules to follow would be great, much in the same way that the Serious Discussion forum has a set of rules. The rules could consist of: 1. No MSN-style chats here 2. No AOL spelling 3. No random thoughts, QZers above you, etc. Stuff like that. Maybe also have a screen similar to when you post in Serious Discussion that reinforces the rules.

Erin wrote: If I was a moderator, QZ might be cut down to about about 10 or 15 posters..;-P Muhahahahaa