| radio_what's_new 03.08.2006 08:56 |
Don't now if it has been mentioned before; If you listen to the song Blag from Smile, after approx. two minutes Brian starts a guitar solo which sounds very similar to some things he does in Brighton Rock...Funny to see that Brian only has this one guitar solo, (during queen and solo and qpr tours) |
| Jjeroen 03.08.2006 09:18 |
Yeah, and it is nothing more then just strumming a muted open E-string in the same tempo! Btw... this is not the kind of post we're used to from you, radio_what's_new! ;-))) |
| Bobby_brown 03.08.2006 09:20 |
radio_what's_new wrote: Don't now if it has been mentioned before; If you listen to the song Blag from Smile, after approx. two minutes Brian starts a guitar solo which sounds very similar to some things he does in Brighton Rock...Funny to see that Brian only has this one guitar solo, (during queen and solo and qpr tours)He has been developing that solo for almost 40 years and i think he´s not happy yet! He will continue till the day he dies. Then we (fans) just have to listen to all the recordings of that song and choose the definitive version. I go for the Wembley 86. Take care |
| Jay Mantis 03.08.2006 09:33 |
Live Killers 1979 version. Holy shit if that is real without any overdubs then it's possibly the greatest version of all time! |
| radio_what's_new 03.08.2006 10:23 |
jeroen wrote: Yeah, and it is nothing more then just strumming a muted open E-string in the same tempo! Btw... this is not the kind of post we're used to from you, radio_what's_new! ;-)))I'll take that as a compliment then...Still makes me wonder what kind of posts you're used to from me ;-) |
| Daveboy35 03.08.2006 10:33 |
« Jay » wrote: Live Killers 1979 version. Holy shit if that is real without any overdubs then it's possibly the greatest version of all time!Yeah the best version i ever heard is the live killers version full of power, poise and great energy, and i don't think there's any overdubs on that track. |
| Jjeroen 03.08.2006 11:16 |
radio_what's_new wrote:I think this is the first post I see that does not contain any faul language! ;-)))jeroen wrote: Yeah, and it is nothing more then just strumming a muted open E-string in the same tempo! Btw... this is not the kind of post we're used to from you, radio_what's_new! ;-)))I'll take that as a compliment then...Still makes me wonder what kind of posts you're used to from me ;-) =Komende week Breezertje ananas scoren?!= |
| radio_what's_new 03.08.2006 11:46 |
jeroen wrote:haha you're right about that...;-)radio_what's_new wrote:I think this is the first post I see that does not contain any faul language! ;-))) =Komende week Breezertje ananas scoren?!=jeroen wrote: Yeah, and it is nothing more then just strumming a muted open E-string in the same tempo! Btw... this is not the kind of post we're used to from you, radio_what's_new! ;-)))I'll take that as a compliment then...Still makes me wonder what kind of posts you're used to from me ;-) =Als je van dat breezertje ananas een biertje maakt ben ik van de partij...Heb trouwens vette foto's in montreux gemaakt...= |
| The Real Wizard 03.08.2006 13:11 |
« Jay » wrote: Live Killers 1979 version. Holy shit if that is real without any overdubs then it's possibly the greatest version of all time!I fully agree... :) |
| error 03.08.2006 13:18 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Me too!« Jay » wrote: Live Killers 1979 version. Holy shit if that is real without any overdubs then it's possibly the greatest version of all time!I fully agree... :) |
| Rick 03.08.2006 13:29 |
Wow, nice find! Oh btw: ANATO means A Night At The Opera. Glad to help people! |
| Lisser 03.08.2006 13:30 |
I like that Brian does the same/similar solos on every gig. I like the tradition and history behind it, makes it more special. |
| kohuept 03.08.2006 13:42 |
He's admitted many times that he'd been working on the music for some time before it found it's place on SHA. |
| Penetration_Guru 03.08.2006 17:16 |
Three days ahead of you... link |
| The Fairy King 04.08.2006 05:45 |
Son & Daughter(BBC) has a similar solo. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.08.2006 06:13 |
One of the poorest guitar-solos known to man at that. Brian can do better. |
| MOANZONE TWAT 04.08.2006 16:33 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: One of the poorest guitar-solos known to man at that. Brian can do better.Oh god here we again with Mr. Premature, get a life! When you come up with something better, then you can make that statement. If it's so bad than why do millions of ppl enjoy it? You think that everyone should agree with your opinions, like if ThomasQuinn said it, it must be written in stone. If you dislike Queen, and the ppl here, why don't you just leave? It is as easy as that, but no you have to put down everyone in your path just because NOT everyone agrees with your ingorant BS. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.08.2006 17:23 |
YoungStratMan wrote:A) I can state an opinion. There's nothing more I did. I don't dislike Queen, that's your sick mind imagining things. If I did, would I say Brian could do better? No, I'd say he's shitty, but I didn't<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: One of the poorest guitar-solos known to man at that. Brian can do better.Oh god here we again with Mr. Premature, get a life! When you come up with something better, then you can make that statement. If it's so bad than why do millions of ppl enjoy it? You think that everyone should agree with your opinions, like if ThomasQuinn said it, it must be written in stone. If you dislike Queen, and the ppl here, why don't you just leave? It is as easy as that, but no you have to put down everyone in your path just because NOT everyone agrees with your ingorant BS. B) I can give you dozens of examples of better solos, AND I could write a better solo. Why? Because Brian made it extremely easy on himself, by making his solo 95% effects and 5% effort. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.08.2006 17:24 |
Seriously, a new level of insane has been reached. I'm being accused of totalitarianism because I say a specific solo sucks. I think that about puts your posts in perspective, YSM. |
| Serry... 05.08.2006 06:20 |
I agree with Caspar here. And to be honest - too many of Brian's "improvised" live solos are boring a little bit... On one night he plays it just because he MUST play long solo and on other night it could be 2-3 mins of masterpiece and then again 6 mins of boring noises (though I like some of such noises made by other guitarists sometimes)... |
| john bodega 05.08.2006 09:10 |
I'm going to interject and say that the solo at Brixton 2005 was too fucking short. Things like the long live solos - these are fun if you're the one playing them, if you're the one exploring the sounds and stuff. But I can totally understand why this shit might seem boring to an audience. |
| Bobby_brown 06.08.2006 10:33 |
I think that Brian´s live solo is a masterpiece. I seriously do!- Of course, if you´re not with the right mood to hear it, it becomes boring, but it dependes of the performance. His live solo doesn´t make sense on a LP stereo version (like live Killers) even though it sounds ok. But, if you hear him playing on the Wembley DVD surround them it clicks, and you go," so this is what he wanted us to hear!"- it´s a little bit like "ANATO" LP versus DVD. Until you hear it in the surround you only have listen to about 80% of it´s potentiality!! Every great guiar palyer like Satriani and Steve vai think of Brian as the Grand master of feedback, because they know how hard it is to master feedback on a live concert (try to master it on a stadium!). If it´s donne the wrong way, it will sound like shit! That´s why his solo from Wembley and Budapest (and others) sounds so incredible. And it´s really hard to play! Of course Brian makes it look easy but it isn´t, because he´s harmonising himself, so he has to be precise like a metronome! And it´s some hard work too, because you have to be synchronised, and he picked all the notes with his coin, the same time he´s vibrating the chords with his tremolo. It´s really dificult to pull this one out on a live show. To guive you an example: I read some time ago Marty Friedman (Megadeath)saying the song "A tout le monde" was very dificult to play, because the begining of the song it´s only the guitar arpegiating some chords. He says the suddenly you don´t have a drummer to set the rythm for you, so you have to be really focused to not loose the beat. He said that now he guives more credit to guitar players that have to do this on a live concert because now he nows how hard it really is!- He said that if he played the song 100 times, in 20 of it he would mess things up. So, i think that Brian really deserves some credit on this one. Take care |
| john bodega 07.08.2006 08:10 |
From someone who enjoys sitting down with a guitar for about 5 hours and, rather than repeating patterns and developing finger speed and agility; just playing whatever comes to mind and expressing how I'm feeling... I can totally enjoy these long solos he does. Really, it's good stuff. And as far as guitar feedback goes - it's hard to go wrong with a Brian May guitar, the things just feed back so well. I seriously got mine to do an opera singer voice the other day. I wet my pants. |
| Serry... 07.08.2006 10:17 |
That's just my opinion, guys. I agree with Roger here, it's just boring in most of the cases. If you'd make the poll what is the most skipped Queen track ever - it'd be live guitar solo though I'd never skip Roger's solo on timpani or "Let There Be Drums". Just listen to "Shine On Your Crazy Diamond" guitar solos - it's something for the mind and for the heart, but usually, not always of course, Brian's live solos for (as Zebonka wrote) "someone who enjoys sitting down with a guitar for about 5 hours". Have you ever heard how Brian ruined with his attempts to play solo in All The Way From Memphis on Hunter's concert in Austoria? Or how he played some useless guitar in Wonderful Life in 1988? He's the God when he plays what he knows or what he rehearsed before (most popular, not the best, but popular Brian's solos are not from the songs written by Brian: The Invisible Man, Days Of Our Lives, You Don't Fool Me etc.), but he can be very boring when he put his solo in the wrong place and in the wrong time. Just my opinion. And yes - I'm not a guitarist myself, that explains a lot I suppose :) |
| Bobby_brown 07.08.2006 10:55 |
Serry... wrote: That's just my opinion, guys. I agree with Roger here, it's just boring in most of the cases. If you'd make the poll what is the most skipped Queen track ever - it'd be live guitar solo though I'd never skip Roger's solo on timpani or "Let There Be Drums". Just listen to "Shine On Your Crazy Diamond" guitar solos - it's something for the mind and for the heart, but usually, not always of course, Brian's live solos for (as Zebonka wrote) "someone who enjoys sitting down with a guitar for about 5 hours". Have you ever heard how Brian ruined with his attempts to play solo in All The Way From Memphis on Hunter's concert in Austoria? Or how he played some useless guitar in Wonderful Life in 1988? He's the God when he plays what he knows or what he rehearsed before (most popular, not the best, but popular Brian's solos are not from the songs written by Brian: The Invisible Man, Days Of Our Lives, You Don't Fool Me etc.), but he can be very boring when he put his solo in the wrong place and in the wrong time. Just my opinion. And yes - I'm not a guitarist myself, that explains a lot I suppose :)I agree that to a guitar player his live solos make more sense than to a casual listner. I´m a guitar player myself, so it´s normal that i see things a little different. I was just analising the Brighton rock guitar solo in some venues. Like most musicians, Brian also has some pretty bad nights! But i agree with you about his improvisation skills. If he already played a song a million times he can improvise like hell, but if he´s playing it live for the first time, it can be hell for the audience : )) You just forgot to mention "Overkill" live with motorhead. One of the problems that Brian has is his self-esteem. I think he has a low self-esteem as a guitar player, and that can sometimes mess up his playing. On the other way, you have Roger Taylor wich has a very high self-esteem and he truly knows that he is above the average drummer. He knows he kiks ass, and he proves it when he plays live. And if you look carefully, when Brian is onstage with Roger he does the best performances. You can watch his solo performances and compare them with the recent Queen gigs. For some reason, when he sees the blond hair behind drums he just relaxes more, and act as everything is going to be alright! I think Roger really has a subconscious power on Brian that makes Brian playing better. It´s just my opinion. Take care |
| john bodega 08.08.2006 06:26 |
Indeed Serry - what I mean is that, I can totally understand why someone would find the long solos boring. They are, technically speaking. It's just fun to listen to someone else doing a guitar odyssey once in a while; like any experiment, there are probably bits where one goes "That worked" or "That didn't work". |
| thomasquinn 32989 09.08.2006 15:25 |
Bobby_brown wrote:I'm a guitar-player, but I still can't appreciate his guitar-solos nearly as much as I can those of for instance Richie Blackmore or David Gilmour.Serry... wrote: That's just my opinion, guys. I agree with Roger here, it's just boring in most of the cases. If you'd make the poll what is the most skipped Queen track ever - it'd be live guitar solo though I'd never skip Roger's solo on timpani or "Let There Be Drums". Just listen to "Shine On Your Crazy Diamond" guitar solos - it's something for the mind and for the heart, but usually, not always of course, Brian's live solos for (as Zebonka wrote) "someone who enjoys sitting down with a guitar for about 5 hours". Have you ever heard how Brian ruined with his attempts to play solo in All The Way From Memphis on Hunter's concert in Austoria? Or how he played some useless guitar in Wonderful Life in 1988? He's the God when he plays what he knows or what he rehearsed before (most popular, not the best, but popular Brian's solos are not from the songs written by Brian: The Invisible Man, Days Of Our Lives, You Don't Fool Me etc.), but he can be very boring when he put his solo in the wrong place and in the wrong time. Just my opinion. And yes - I'm not a guitarist myself, that explains a lot I suppose :)I agree that to a guitar player his live solos make more sense than to a casual listner. I´m a guitar player myself, so it´s normal that i see things a little different. |
| john bodega 09.08.2006 23:54 |
I would say that Brian's solos do go on for too long. That isn't to say that he doesn't do something good here and there, in amongst all the usual stuff. 'Appreciating' and 'liking' something are different things, anyway. |