| Roger's Beard 02.08.2006 11:20 |
fed up yet? link link |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 03.08.2006 07:50 |
Thank you very much for sharing your mixes. I like all of them, even if I have my favorites. Unfortunatelly, it seems that the mp3 version of "Was it all worth it" suffers from what I think to be CD ripping problems, and it bounces and even misses parts from 3min22seconds on. Could you try to rip it again and reupload it? I even downloaded it twice to be sure of the problem. Cheers and thank you once again, Ogre- |
| Roger's Beard 03.08.2006 09:40 |
Thanks for telling me. It looks like the disc I've kept it on has a fault as it even plays back with problems. There you go folks. After 8 years my Super Azo Dye Verbatim CD is losing its information! Doesn't bode well for the future of CD does it. 12 people downloaded and only one person spots the fault!!! I'll see about remaking this - good job it's a simple cut and paste job!! |
| ern2150 03.08.2006 14:20 |
link I couldn't find your original post for this so here it is. |
| _Bijou_ 03.08.2006 16:34 |
Please could someone be kind enough and e-mail me all the mixes at queengaga@hotmail.com Thanks |
| roy_fokker 04.08.2006 05:21 |
Thanks! your mixes are very nice, at least those ones I've listened to so far! There are changes, but not revolutions, and that's what happens when things are made.. with 'style'. I tried to make a little remix working on the Miracle's final part, but I think it's still a long way to go to make it really work.. anyway, if you want to listen to it, it's posted here in the fan mixes section. Any hint/opinion is welcome. Roy. |
| Roger's Beard 04.08.2006 07:29 |
Thanks Roy. I've downloaded that and I'll get it listened to later! |
| Adam Baboolal 07.08.2006 12:55 |
Nice edits, but I didn't see the point. Sounds more like someone's tinkering than any kind of edit or mix because it just misses things like the first chorus out. And 2:05, 3:04, 3:36 are very obvious edits. Peace, Adam. |
| Roger's Beard 07.08.2006 13:41 |
Adam - read my other postings and you'll see why the edits are obvious. They were done 8 years ago on a minidisc recorder making use of the Eye instrumentals which had literally just come out and not everyone had heard them - so it was something new. You also have to bear in mind that the internet was still a relatively new thing back then as well - so no file sharing and no forums like this one for meeting other fans who may have something you don't. Soundcards were crap in those days, most people still had 350mhz (or less!)CPUs in their PCs, a CD writer cost well over £200 and "mixing" software just wasn't an option! (Sheesh - I feel old now) Oh, and producing a mix between vocal and instrumental versions and missing vocals out IS the point, and they were well received at the time when "fan mixes" were a new thing. I've simply uploaded everything I did for others to hear because Bart Lammey used one of my tracks for his podcast... They may be rough by todays standards, but if they give "newbies" some ideas and starting points, then that's fine by me. Anyway - they've got to be better than the wank 1 remix of Love Kills....and that's official!! |
| Adam Baboolal 07.08.2006 13:59 |
pootle1 wrote: Soundcards were crap in those days, most people still had 350mhz (or less!)CPUs in their PCs, a CD writer cost well over £200 and "mixing" software just wasn't an option! (Sheesh - I feel old now)Uhm... I was recording and mixing with a pentium 100 back in 1995. Cool Edit 96 was also a great piece of software that Fickle is using today, otherwise known as Adobe Audition now. His mixes are more often than not, edit perfect. The fact that you used a minidisc recorder is the way you did it. A far easier way would have been to track down a minidisc unit with jog/shuttle wheel for precise edits. And hey, I'm posting my comments on what I thought. No need to go on the defensive cause if you look at it, I never said it was bad. If those bad edits weren't there I'd be saying it was pretty decent. Peace, Adam. |
| Roger's Beard 07.08.2006 16:44 |
I apologise if it seems like I was on the defensive, though I was to a degree. I just feel the need to explain to people why they're not quite right when so many people on here are doing wonderful mixes with better facilities than I had. I never had access to that software you mentioned - infact I never new it existed. My minidisc recorders DO have jog shuttles - which is why the mixes are as precise as they are. It's easier (for me) to edit to a beat I can hear, rather than staring at a waveform! The reason the edits stand out is the difference in sound quality between the Hollywood CDs and the Eye CDs (the latter having heavier bass) |
| Lord Fickle 07.08.2006 17:48 |
To be fair, most of my mixes were done not using the eYe, but the Karaoke CD / DVD set, and the existing alternative mixes or 12" versions, so in most cases, differing EQ wasn't too much of an issue. As I said (sort of) before, it is the edits which stand out in these older Pootle1 mixes. When I first started editing / mixing, it was on three Hi-Fi Stereo video recorders, using the separate A + B channels on two of them, to mix down to the third. It was basically channel splitting, but you could get each channel to come out of both speakers. I had some 'interesting' results, but many were spoiled by a sudden 'zzzzztt!' where the video tape broke up through re-winding and re-recording a zillion times over a small part of the tape, to get the perfect edit. My first 'real' mix (if you can call it a mix) was done with a two channel mixer, using cross fade, to record from two CD players to a CD Recorder, and the result was an edit of A Kind Of Magic, which was posted here many moons ago. My best ever mix of Invisible Man was also done that way, but was lost, and I have never been able to replicate it on a computer. My point is, you CAN make a perfect edit without using a computer, but it's bloody hard work! |
| Adam Baboolal 07.08.2006 18:17 |
Lord Fickle wrote: My point is, you CAN make a perfect edit without using a computer, but it's bloody hard work!I'll second that! And while we're sharing these retro mixing stories, I'll mention my first experience with music/mixing. It was pretty basic, but it worked and I still have the tape. Aww... So, basically, I was playing my brother's latest keyboard synth. This was when I didn't have a clue and didn't know any chords or notes of the keys. Basically, it must have been after the MIH album was released because, I did something that resembled track13. Anyway, I was playing around and found something that reminded me of RadioGaGa. I was psyched! And as I was playing around, I also did something like track13. Hmm... I put them together and got some other sounds to make the ending of the track13-like song. And even dubbed on Freddie's "fab" bit to complete the idea. Wow, I actually did something musical. Pretty good for a non-musical person. So, I then recorded each line to the tape deck and dragged the hi-fi tape deck to the computer room. I copied them from tape to the computer and compiled them on Cool Edit by using the mix paste function. It worked pretty well! Not that exciting, but hey, it was my first proper little recording/mix. I'll have to take a look for it actually. Peace, Adam. |
| Roger's Beard 07.08.2006 18:27 |
Oh my god, Fickle! It sounds like the Bo rhap tape story all over again! Come on then Adam - get that tape on here, no matter how bad it may be. Maybe we should start a new thread - "Our worst mixes ever". That could be quite a laugh! |
| Adam Baboolal 08.08.2006 04:19 |
lol, well okay then. It'll be fun to hear it again. But I wouldn't label it under worst mix ever. I'd put my recent friend's band mixes in that category. Anyone else get to work with people who don't have a clue, but you have to follow what they want things to sound like? Ended up sounding like poo on most tracks. I'm probably alone on that one, really. Peace, Adam. |
| Lord Fickle 08.08.2006 06:02 |
Actually, I can go back even further! I once made a Sweet "mega-mix" in the 1970s (showing my age!), using my Dad's ITT "music centre" (!), which was comprised of a record deck, cassette deck and tuner. I used the pause button on the cassette deck to stop and start each section of the recording, all done by ear. Obviously, to hear it now would be laughable, but at the time, I thought it sounded great, and I think that's where I got the obsession with creating the 'perfect' edit. I was probably about 12 years old at the time, and clearly remember getting a severe bollocking when one of my cassettes got mangled in the machine! Ahh.... those were the days, when music was REAL, and not created on a bloody computer! |
| ern2150 08.08.2006 20:28 |
My first mix was accidental -- my tape of Live Killers / A Day at the Races twisted, and so I have about half of Let Me Entertain You running backward, and then one of the crowd whistles fades backward into the opening chord of Tie Your Mother Down (hollywood remix.) I never tried that method again, but maybe I should some day :) Years later, in college, I found SoundEdit 16 or whatever it was called on the Mac. I then made "I Want It All" in mono with the Rocks (single) version mixed with the Acapella (Miracle) version. After that I tried Save Me / It's a Hard Life which turned out horribly and was deleted. |