| Gone. 13.07.2006 14:45 |
My Fellow Queen Fans. I have come accross the "Hot Space problem" about three years ago. I would love to hear your opinions about, whether you hate it, or love it...because it just so happens, that Hot Space is one of my top albums...why do some people hate it? |
| Carol! the Musical 13.07.2006 14:49 |
Maybe it's cause they're not into the disco thing they were experimenting with. I think it's a cool album! :-D |
| Nathan 13.07.2006 14:49 |
I like it. I listen to it quite often. It is a sign of just how great Queen are, if they can tackle a new area of music and produce a piece of work that some fans can like. It has some very catchy tunes as well as the great Under Pressure. |
| M a t i a s M a y 13.07.2006 14:49 |
SHIT |
| Joeker 13.07.2006 14:51 |
Oh lord not another Hot Space topic....I think we should sticky this along with a "Was Freddie Really Gay thing", a "which song is the best" and "whats the album thing" along with the "Why does everyone hate Queen", "Where is John Deacon", and "Paul Rodgers sucks" topics....argh |
| bitesthedust 13.07.2006 15:06 |
Personally all Album Discussion topics should be created/revived and made sticky on Serious. |
| Gone. 13.07.2006 15:09 |
oh...oops...lol...well i didnt know. |
| bitesthedust 13.07.2006 15:19 |
DeadOnTime<3 wrote: oh...oops...lol...well i didnt know.I mean they should be ! They're not, it's alright.... |
| flash! 28068 13.07.2006 15:24 |
I warmed to it almost immediately! I think this was because i'd seen Live at the Bowl before getting the album and developed a liking to the songs. I love it, some fabulous work... apart from the exception of Body Language perhaps (which still is very sexy and hearing Freddie's sexy, low voice and his sighing really is WOW!!) Yeah, it is different maybe because Queen, for once, were actually following a particular genre of music instead of usually going along with their own self-made style. Still doesn't deserve such a bad reception though as it has some fantastic, under-rated songs. |
| Gone. 13.07.2006 15:25 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote: I warmed to it almost immediately! I think this was because i'd seen Live at the Bowl before getting the album and developed a liking to the songs. I love it, some fabulous work... apart from the exception of Body Language perhaps (which still is very sexy and hearing Freddie's sexy, low voice and his sighing really is WOW!!) Yeah, it is different maybe because Queen, for once, were actually following a particular genre of music instead of usually going along with their own self-made style. Still doesn't deserve such a bad reception though as it has some fantastic, under-rated songs.Thank you! My point exactly! |
| eedodededededea 13.07.2006 15:28 |
Love that album |
| breakthru1989 13.07.2006 15:31 |
SORRY i don’t like hot space. |
| FreddieForeverNr1 13.07.2006 15:33 |
hot space is a great album so are all their other albums innuendo is the best though |
| Going Back 13.07.2006 15:41 |
great album imo |
| DreaminQueen 13.07.2006 17:54 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote: I warmed to it almost immediately! I think this was because i'd seen Live at the Bowl before getting the album and developed a liking to the songs. I love it, some fabulous work... apart from the exception of Body Language perhaps (which still is very sexy and hearing Freddie's sexy, low voice and his sighing really is WOW!!) Yeah, it is different maybe because Queen, for once, were actually following a particular genre of music instead of usually going along with their own self-made style. Still doesn't deserve such a bad reception though as it has some fantastic, under-rated songs.I dont have this album yet, but its the next one on my list to buy. And its because of the LIVE AT THE BOWL performances. And i love UNDER PRESSURE etc and i enjoy the music vids on GVH2 from this album as well... So I'm sure i like the album once i obtain it... The one thing i love about QUEEN is they never do the same album twice, yet stay true to their own sound. Yes HOT SPACE is a different album, but there are QUEEN-esque nuances in each song. |
| Micrówave 13.07.2006 18:23 |
I think the reason people hate this album is because they wanted The Game II. If they'd open their minds, they'd realize this was one of Queen's finest and what I would call a "Freddie Masterpiece". |
| MOANZONE TWAT 13.07.2006 22:53 |
As musicians, the album is great! But as business men, it sucks! A great musician can play alot of different genres of music well, but this isn't Queen's trademark sound. |
| Gone. 13.07.2006 22:55 |
YoungStratMan wrote: As musicians, the album is great! But as business men, it sucks! A great musician can play alot of different genres of music well, but this isn't Queen's trademark sound.I agree 100%! |
| Kensington Love 14.07.2006 02:52 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote: I warmed to it almost immediately! I think this was because i'd seen Live at the Bowl before getting the album and developed a liking to the songs. I love it, some fabulous work... apart from the exception of Body Language perhaps (which still is very sexy and hearing Freddie's sexy, low voice and his sighing really is WOW!!) Yeah, it is different maybe because Queen, for once, were actually following a particular genre of music instead of usually going along with their own self-made style. Still doesn't deserve such a bad reception though as it has some fantastic, under-rated songs.Very well said. I have always loved this album, particularly Body Language. I would love to have seen Freddie do that one Live! Grrrowwwl! |
| flash! 28068 14.07.2006 07:45 |
KensingtonLove(Darunkhanawala) wrote:I think he didn't do it because he'd know i'd be in the front row with a dribble bucket...perhaps.<font color=red>Flash! wrote: I warmed to it almost immediately! I think this was because i'd seen Live at the Bowl before getting the album and developed a liking to the songs. I love it, some fabulous work... apart from the exception of Body Language perhaps (which still is very sexy and hearing Freddie's sexy, low voice and his sighing really is WOW!!) Yeah, it is different maybe because Queen, for once, were actually following a particular genre of music instead of usually going along with their own self-made style. Still doesn't deserve such a bad reception though as it has some fantastic, under-rated songs.Very well said. I have always loved this album, particularly Body Language. I would love to have seen Freddie do that one Live! Grrrowwwl! |
| deleted user 14.07.2006 07:59 |
It is not as bad as a lot of people think. I wouldn't normally think much of disco stuff, but this is Queen we're talking about and they managed to do it Queen-style. The more I listen to that album the more respect I have for it. When I bought the album I remember thinking, "This really isn't as bad as the reviews said it was." |
| rocks. 14.07.2006 07:59 |
Love it, with the acception of Body Language, and I dont mind Dancer, bt not my favourite track. I could listen to Staying Power over and over and over.... |
| JeroenG 14.07.2006 12:42 |
Very well said. I have always loved this album, particularly Body Language. I would love to have seen Freddie do that one Live! Grrrowwwl!Queen has played Body Language live in the USA and Japan a few times. I definately do not dislike Hot Space. It is a nice album. I especially like Dancer, Back Chat, Calling All Girls, Las Palabras De Amor. I like less Cool Cat, Staying Power (but I absolutely love the live version!), Life Is Real and (yes really) Under Pressure... although I think the 1999 Rah Mix of Under Pressure sounds quite good! |
| another one diets the bust 14.07.2006 16:14 |
There are indeed some facts, that kinda 'explain', why many people are so worried about HotSpace. 1) TheGame was such a huge hit, that whatever would have been it's follow-up only could have 'looked' disappointing. 2) It was far more 'experimental' as many other Queen albums. It is almost completely disco-style, and for that it's not bad. When i was new to collecting Queen and just obtained most of their albums, HotSpace definately was one of my favs. StayingPower was quite exceptional to me and i think it may be the most underrated track on that album. LasPalabrasDeAmor is some nice piece of music too of course. If i was to judge it now, more than 15 years later, i don't know if i still would call HotSpace my favourite Queen album, but to me it definately is not the weakest. Maybe Queen would have done better, if they had chosen different singles from the album, at least for the European releases. |
| louvox 14.07.2006 16:16 |
After reading the comments on “Hot Space” I must say I disagree! 1. “Disco” is not a new gender of music. It had been around at least 10 years before, but it was called “Funk” 2. By the time Queen decided to experiment with it (Disco) it was already on the way out. 3. Instead of incorporating into Queen and making it their own, they simply copied what most had done already. 4. Most of the songs on that offering are weak by any standards. 5. The “live versions” I have heard of most of those songs are better than the studio version. 6. In my opinion Queen never really recovered after that disaster. They simply became just another Euro pop synthesizer band. |
| Mr. Deacon 14.07.2006 22:19 |
hot space....hm.. could be better.. hot space is there TRUE 80s album, life is real, body language, las palabras de amor, back chat, calling all girls, under pressure... these are exellent songs, other are... |
| Kensington Love 15.07.2006 00:32 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote:And I'd be right beside you with mine! ;)KensingtonLove(Darunkhanawala) wrote:I think he didn't do it because he'd know i'd be in the front row with a dribble bucket...perhaps.<font color=red>Flash! wrote: I warmed to it almost immediately! I think this was because i'd seen Live at the Bowl before getting the album and developed a liking to the songs. I love it, some fabulous work... apart from the exception of Body Language perhaps (which still is very sexy and hearing Freddie's sexy, low voice and his sighing really is WOW!!) Yeah, it is different maybe because Queen, for once, were actually following a particular genre of music instead of usually going along with their own self-made style. Still doesn't deserve such a bad reception though as it has some fantastic, under-rated songs.Very well said. I have always loved this album, particularly Body Language. I would love to have seen Freddie do that one Live! Grrrowwwl! |
| Chris L ♣ 15.07.2006 02:25 |
Personally, I like Hot Space. Queen was experimenting with a new genre of music and I think hardcore Queen fans weren't ready for the "new stuff" (Disco - Funk). But I "dig it". It was nice to see their versatility. Perhaps that's one of the reasons why Queen appealed to me. |
| another one diets the bust 15.07.2006 08:20 |
louvox wrote: [...] 5. The “live versions” I have heard of most of those songs are better than the studio version. 6. In my opinion Queen never really recovered after that disaster. They simply became just another Euro pop synthesizer band.i completely agree with 5, but only partially with 6. the "disaster" even began during the recording sessions for TheGame, when the decision was made to use synths for the first time and it got even worse when PlayTheGame became the first ever Queen single to feature a synth. and PlayTheGame to me is no way better than most of the HotSpace tracks. another crappy example of bad synth songs is IWantToBreakFree. not that it wasn't a chart success, but i never really liked that tune. in Europe Queen kept being successful, but in the US they almost completely dropped out of the charts. |
| Asterik 15.07.2006 09:50 |
Mircrowave! wrote: I think the reason people hate this album is because they wanted The Game II. If they'd open their minds, they'd realize this was one of Queen's finest and what I would call a "Freddie Masterpiece".The Game II. Lord deliver us from such mediocrity. |
| Asterik 15.07.2006 09:53 |
louvox wrote: After reading the comments on “Hot Space” I must 6. In my opinion Queen never really recovered after that disaster. They simply became just another Euro pop synthesizer band.Typical, narrow-minded response. Not entirely true- you should listen to Innuendo -that's if you'vee heard of it. Queen changed in the eighties to survive and generally did it well combining anthemic qualities of early works with generally subtle uses of contemparory synths. |
| deleted user 15.07.2006 12:10 |
I love Hot Space! I think, personally, all of the songs are great! I dunno why people hate it so much. The people that i know, call it a piece of garbage. It certainly isnt. My reply to them is "have you gone mad"? I love it! I think it is awesome! But i have to admit, it is not Queen's genre. But it worked for them, in my opinion. |
| Mr. Deacon 15.07.2006 17:17 |
hot space was there second commercial album , the first was flash gordon... there music in that time was commercial... maided for money... |
| deleted user 16.07.2006 12:00 |
The first time I listened to Hot Space, my poor little basement room became overcome by blistering heat. I had to change into a less modest set of pyjamas to accommodate. I decided that the album was entirely to blame and I haven't forgiven them yet. |
| JeroenG 16.07.2006 17:06 |
Mr. Deacon wrote: hot space was there second commercial album , the first was flash gordon... there music in that time was commercial... maided for money...How on earth could someone call the Flash Gordon album commercial?? If there's one Queen album that isn't commercial, it's Flash Gordon! It's not even a normal Queen album (by normal I mean: an album with songs) but a soundtrack for a movie. Two songs, the rest is music to fit with the movie. And although the music sounds nice, the release as they did it is far from commercial. |
| RETROLOVE 16.07.2006 22:13 |
kingarthur wrote: Oh lord not another Hot Space topic....I think we should sticky this along with a "Was Freddie Really Gay thing", a "which song is the best" and "whats the album thing" along with the "Why does everyone hate Queen", "Where is John Deacon", and "Paul Rodgers sucks" topics....arghHA HA HA HA!!!!!!! |
| RETROLOVE 16.07.2006 22:14 |
Hot Space might not have been a good studio album to some people, but it was seriously great live, ex: action this day, staying power, back chat...great live!!!!!! |
| Gone. 16.07.2006 22:21 |
I think Hot Space is a very underated album. It deserves some "respect". You have to admit that the songs arent BAD. I think they are awesome! I love all of em...except maybe body lang....it just doesnt work with me...... |
| Winter Land Man 17.07.2006 07:30 |
Hot Space would sell very well today, in the USA. It's what teenagers listen to... particularly females. |
| another one diets the bust 17.07.2006 11:03 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote: Hot Space would sell very well today, in the USA. It's what teenagers listen to... particularly females.Hot Space didn't sell that poorly in the US some 25 years ago, did it? UnderPressure became #29 in the US (and #1 in the UK) BodyLanguage even became #11 in the US The only 'major' US hit Queen had after HotSpace was RadioGaGa which made #16, no later Queen single even reached the US Top 40 any more. So Queen only 'recovered' in Europe, well some of the US single releases were quite odd choices... |
| Micrówave 17.07.2006 12:13 |
Unfortunately, I've picked up several copies in the "cut-out" bin over the years. No other Queen album made it there, not even Flash! But with Moogs and Oberheims, how could you not like it? Funny how those patches are the ones most sought after by keyboard players today! |
| Asterik 17.07.2006 16:25 |
Mircrowave! wrote: Unfortunately, I've picked up several copies in the "cut-out" bin over the years. No other Queen album made it there, not even Flash! But with Moogs and Oberheims, how could you not like it? Funny how those patches are the ones most sought after by keyboard players today!Yes, I thought the keyboards were quite well-played on Hot Space. |
| Winter Land Man 18.07.2006 16:11 |
another one diets the bust wrote:Except The Show Must Go OnMessenger Of Leah wrote: Hot Space would sell very well today, in the USA. It's what teenagers listen to... particularly females.no later Queen single even reached the US Top 40 any more. |
| another one diets the bust 18.07.2006 17:09 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:i wouldn't count TheShowMustGoOn as a single in it's own right, it was kinda double-A side single, and the song which made that single reach #2 in the US charts most probably was BohemianRhapsody.another one diets the bust wrote:Except The Show Must Go OnMessenger Of Leah wrote: Hot Space would sell very well today, in the USA. It's what teenagers listen to... particularly females.no later Queen single even reached the US Top 40 any more. same to TATDOOL which would never have made it to UK #1, if not being a double-A side single with BohemianRhapsody either. |
| Winter Land Man 18.07.2006 19:08 |
another one diets the bust wrote:I don't know. The Show Must Go On was only a cassette in the US, and it was the first track on the single. And it got a lot of attention since it's on a few of "Best of 1990s" albums... and VH1 plays it a lot on their shows.Messenger Of Leah wrote:i wouldn't count TheShowMustGoOn as a single in it's own right, it was kinda double-A side single, and the song which made that single reach #2 in the US charts most probably was BohemianRhapsody. same to TATDOOL which would never have made it to UK #1, if not being a double-A side single with BohemianRhapsody either.another one diets the bust wrote:Except The Show Must Go OnMessenger Of Leah wrote: Hot Space would sell very well today, in the USA. It's what teenagers listen to... particularly females.no later Queen single even reached the US Top 40 any more. People always tell me Bohemian Rhapsody was the first track on that US Cassette single, but it's not. It's The Show Must Go On with Bohemian Rhapsody, the Bohemian Rhapsody letters are smaller... and the first track on both sides is The Show Must Go On |
| another one diets the bust 19.07.2006 05:28 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote: I don't know. The Show Must Go On was only a cassette in the US, and it was the first track on the single. And it got a lot of attention since it's on a few of "Best of 1990s" albums... and VH1 plays it a lot on their shows. People always tell me Bohemian Rhapsody was the first track on that US Cassette single, but it's not. It's The Show Must Go On with Bohemian Rhapsody, the Bohemian Rhapsody letters are smaller... and the first track on both sides is The Show Must Go Onhm, i always thought the re-release of BohemianRhapsody in the US would have been quite similar to the UK one, except for it was coupled with TSMGO instead of TATDOOL. so if the running order on the US cassette single indeed has TSMGO first, then some sources definately list it wrong, as it's always listed BohemianRhapsody/TSMGO. maybe they got it wrong the same way i did. my collecting more concentrates on different songs and versions, not that much for different releases, and cassette singles are some strange things anyway ;) |
| Winter Land Man 19.07.2006 17:11 |
Yeah. I have a few of the cassette singles, and it was The Show Must Go On first, and Bohemian Rhapsody second. (Go to bottom of page to see US single track list) link I think there's even a promo single with just The Show Must Go On on it, but I haven't gotten that yet. The UK release of These Are The Days Of Our Lives was actually Bohemian Rhapsody for the first track, and then These Are The Days Of Our Lives for the second track, and it wasn't even a double A side. These Are The Days Of Our Lives could only be played when flipping the 7" single over. link The regular single for These Are The Days Of Our Lives was only available in the USA only. Never released elsewhere. link |