| deacyamp 17.06.2006 02:40 |
I relly adore queen songs and guyz and really love their 70's songs ( one bye one ) . but the album " hot space " makes me angry. if I see one of the guyz someday (Brian,Roger or even John!) , i would talk about it and would ask "why your minds was in lowest level while you were making 'Hot Space' ? " . . . well , musicvideos of the album cant compare with the rests . Roger's solo album in the same year is very better than the Band's album . oh shit ! if john didn't write the only listenable song , "back chat" , the album had nothing to listen for a REAL QUEEN FAN . I've known many Queen Fanz in queenzone. but 70% of them don't realise what I mean .you know? they are queen fan 'cause they like queen songs . there are not many REAL QUEEN FAN really. look i don't hate the album .what i'm saying is : this album is not Comparable with the rest albums and i think they were not serious about writing. (their minds were down) . i wish i could erase "hot space" from Queen's discography. haha ! |
| Winter Land Man 17.06.2006 03:02 |
I enjoy Queen because they are versatile. Fuck you if you think versatility sucks Nothing wrong with that album, in fact some countries consider it their best album. I'm glad they did it, and I'm sure Freddie was too. Try new things, why not? Why not write songs similar the ones you listen to? That's the music Freddie and John listened to at the time, so fuck you if you have a problem of writing something they want to write. It's not your music, it's theirs. You are correct, this album is not comparable. This happens to be Queen's best DANCE album. Different genre. But remember, this album did have rock songs as well. It'd get boring listening to the same style music all the time. I like Hot Space better than Queen II... I guess I'm not a real Queen fan, just because I like a certain Queen album you don't like. Hey, Queen did different styles of music... rockabilly, rock, hard rock, love ballads, vaudville, operatic rock... and disco and soul. I happen to like this album best due to the dance tracks. You might say it's not as rockish as all their other albums, but I don't give a fuck. That's not why I like this album. I like something to dance to. And I like Queen's versatility. Sorry that you can't give them credit for writing an album that wasn't the same as every other album they did. |
| Adam Baboolal 17.06.2006 06:06 |
Once again, Hot Space gets a right bolloking! It ain't THAT bad. I agree that it's not the best, but there are a good handful of songs on there that I like. Peace, Adam. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 17.06.2006 06:42 |
I really don't understand why people hate Hot Space so much, yes it's different to anything they'd done and not necessarily their best, but I'd always take Hot Space before A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle and The Works. There are some bad songs on there, like 'Cool Cat', but then so does almost every Queen album. |
| osmondbear 17.06.2006 08:29 |
I think its a great album. I like most of the songs there. (Peace man! People have different tastes) |
| deleted user 17.06.2006 09:32 |
I prefer the 70's songs. But I love the others, too. |
| rocks. 17.06.2006 09:33 |
I started a topic on this in serious, it got quite good.. I love Hot Space |
| it was electric7 17.06.2006 10:12 |
I think Hot Space is a great album, but not really for "Queen." |
| flash! 28068 17.06.2006 10:49 |
It may not be totally Queenie... but i still really like it. When i bought it i couldn't stop listening to it for weeks! So yes, alot of the songs are very good, unique and catchy...with the odd exception of Body Language (which isn't one of their best) However, i don't know why so many Queen fans hate it. Yes, it may not be totally within the usual 'Queen genre' and may contain one or two weak tracks... but it still deserves recognition for the rest. "It's only a bloody record!!!" lol They didn't lose their rock n roll feel. |
| Huge*Queen*Fan 17.06.2006 10:55 |
ok i havent heard it yet but im working my way 2 get it! but like Freddie said, they were only trying out some stuff because of the era type thing, and Brian said that the album was poorly timed but o well! |
| mercury20 17.06.2006 10:58 |
Hot Space was meant to be a totally fresh album-a kind of funk direction if you like.The big problem was the reception in the U.s.A who were really expecting something similar to The Game which was such a huge hit over there.Queens policy was to try new and fresh ideas rather than stick to the same format but you can't please everybody as freddie used to say.Anyway,some of the tracks are really strong like Life Is Real and especially Las Palabras De Amor and it was probably released at the wrong time if that makes any sense! Michael Jackson is on record saying that Hot Space influenced Thriller and you can see where George Michael got some of his vocal style from as well.You are of couse entitled to your opinion but to say that it is shit may upset certain Queen members-You sound like a critic! OK then it is not one of Queens masterpieces but it is still creative and different and it is interesting that in the U.s it is now quite well received since the remasters-perhaps a re release of Break free is due eh? Hope you like the other albums......Goodnight! |
| Aquillas 17.06.2006 12:38 |
Hot Space is a great album!!! The videos are quite good too!!! I can't understand why so many people disconsider this album...only because it's mainly based on other genres of music besides rock? Hey, don't go..."criticising all you see"!!! |
| Going Back 17.06.2006 12:50 |
if you don't like it, don't buy it or hear it, for me it's great, love every song there. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 17.06.2006 13:03 |
I don't LOVE Hot Space and I don't HATE Hot Space. :P |
| 7Innuendo7 17.06.2006 14:32 |
side two is totally fine, Under Pressure is the best one there, but I also like Calling All Girls and Life Is Real. Las Palabras de Amor is really great-- that's how Queen pushes the envelope best, a song in Japanese, a song in Spanish, there's gotta be some French and Farsi in their catalogue somewhere...The Cool Cat demo w/David Bowie is worth having as a real bonus track. BUT side one-- ohh..."Staying Power" live such as MK Bowl and "Action This Day" really sound more "Queen" -- why? imho the horns for example on the album version (though good on their own, and Arif Mardin's got a lot of songs to his credit) don't stack up to Freddie's own vocal improv as we hear on MK Bowl. Vocal improv= more Freddie, more Queen. I like it that John played rhythm guitar on "Staying Power" live, with keyboards bass, that's also Queen breaking free from the previous album's material. But the arrangement that shows up on the Hot Space album doesn't seem to capture the engery of the live version for me either. Same for "Action This Day." No it's not the worst thing that's been done, although Robbie Williams' attempt at WATC rivals only William Hung's WATC. Which might be the more fabulous of the two, but that's another thread. Yes there are some catchy melodies on side one HS but gimme the live version please! |
| deleted user 17.06.2006 14:35 |
I love Hot Space!!! How does that mean im not a 'real Queen fan'!?!? I would've thought i was moreso because i love ALL their albums!!! |
| jcrawford79 17.06.2006 15:53 |
My second favorite Queen album.....and off to the gallows for anyone who says I'm not a real Queen fan for having that opinion, as the original poster implied. Well, actually he didn't imply it....he explicitly stated it. |
| deleted user 17.06.2006 18:13 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote: 'I like Hot Space better than Queen II... I guess I'm not a real Queen fan, just because I like a certain Queen album you don't like.' Well I happen to prefer Queen II to Hot Space and all their 80's albums. I do still like A Kind of Magic and some of the songs on the Works and hot space but my musical taste gears more towards their mystic 70's approach than their funky 80's approach. That was the thing about Queen. They catered for almost everyone's musical tastes. Plus could you imagine if Queen had stubbornly stuck with the music they were making in the early 70's right through to the 1991 'Innuendo' album. There would be no album. They would not have sold a record. They had to move with the times. Hot Space was just them trying out the new craze seeing if it suited Queen and if not then fine they would continue to experiment. If you think Hot Space is shit then fine but other people may like it that doesn't make them or you any less a Queen fan! |
| bgordon88 17.06.2006 18:26 |
The album is full of good songs and good music .... period. It's not ANATO and may not be to your taste but that's all. So many people call a particular type of music shite if it's not to their taste and in the end that's very disrespectful of the talent and efforts of the people involved. I mean Abba were not to my taste but they weren't shite. |
| user name 17.06.2006 19:16 |
Flash Gordon is the worst Queen album. End of. |
| Freddie89 17.06.2006 19:25 |
I don't know why so many people hate Hot Space. To be honest I think it's quite a good album. I think all of the songs are good on it!!! |
| Winter Land Man 17.06.2006 21:54 |
My music tastes dont fit everything on Queen II |
| deacyamp 18.06.2006 02:00 |
" this is me again ." Great Comments. look; I didn't say that i hate hot space . just said when Freddie, Roger ,John and Brian are gathering together to make an album beside each other , the album must be great like the rests. the songs in Hot Space are not bad. but Queen is more great than those songs. "just look at all those hungry lyrics we have to listen . " lyrics are not good like the rests either. one of the SO MANY reasons i love Queen is they do new things in each album and don't do the same they've done in previous work. it's very good. music like Hot Space is not rare in the world of music. once again i say that i dont hate the songs like Under Pressure(great) or Back Chat . hey if you want to listen to dance music with lyrics which convey sexual topics , there are many bands and artists you would like them.we want Queen for Concept Albums. |
| john bodega 18.06.2006 02:05 |
Life is Real = good. Under Pressure = good. Las Palabras = pretty, but you know, it worked better when called Teo Torriate. The rest I'm not so fussed about... it's only a bloody record. |
| deleted user 18.06.2006 06:40 |
I think some people don't like Hot Space because it isn't Queen's usual rock style, and some fans obviously prefer other albums. Personally, I don't think Hot Space deserves all the bad comments - it's just different... and there are some great songs like Put Out The Fire. I sometimes feel like listening to Hot Space simply because I've listened to all the other albums and I feel like something different. :) |
| bitesthedust 18.06.2006 08:15 |
yawnsville... It's a pity that Lester stopped his Album Discussion topics and that they are not Sticky on the Serious forum... At least those discussions are reasoned and thought out. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 18.06.2006 08:36 |
bitesthedust wrote: yawnsville... It's a pity that Lester stopped his Album Discussion topics and that they are not Sticky on the Serious forum... At least those discussions are reasoned and thought out.Are you not capable of making your own Discussion threads in the serious forum? ....Just a suggestion. |
| deleted user 18.06.2006 09:06 |
Personally, I think there are a lot of worse albums out there than Hot Space. The thing about Queen is that they never really released a truly terrible album. Some are stronger than others of course, but Hot Space is not a pile of shite. There are some good songs on it. To the topic starter - just because you don't like the album and others might feel differently about it to you, does not give you a good reason to say that they are not real fans. That's actually a pretty stupid thing for you to say. Over and out. |
| bitesthedust 18.06.2006 09:23 |
<font color=0099FF>Poppy wrote:What's the point? Every album should have 1 thread, as opposed to an infinite amount discussing the same old thing.bitesthedust wrote: yawnsville... It's a pity that Lester stopped his Album Discussion topics and that they are not Sticky on the Serious forum... At least those discussions are reasoned and thought out.Are you not capable of making your own Discussion threads in the serious forum? ....Just a suggestion. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 18.06.2006 09:43 |
bitesthedust wrote:I guess you're right. Although any thread that has the makings of being a good thread will become full of shit if put on the general discussion..it's just the way it is..<font color=0099FF>Poppy wrote:What's the point? Every album should have 1 thread, as opposed to an infinite amount discussing the same old thing.bitesthedust wrote: yawnsville... It's a pity that Lester stopped his Album Discussion topics and that they are not Sticky on the Serious forum... At least those discussions are reasoned and thought out.Are you not capable of making your own Discussion threads in the serious forum? ....Just a suggestion. |
| bitesthedust 18.06.2006 10:54 |
yes...agreed.... |
| Bohemian MAY-niac/Deaconite 19.06.2006 01:45 |
I love ALL of Queen's albums!! Queen was certainly not afraid to try venturing into other genres of music and their sound was so unique. That's why I love them so much. "Hot Space" was a good album. My favorites are "Back Chat", and "Calling all Girls". |
| louvox 19.06.2006 16:46 |
To Deacyamp: I agree with you. “Hot Space” is their worst offering. I would go as far as to list it on the top ten worst albums of all time. I can see that you are an ardent Queen fan as I am. I was truly disappointed when I first heard this load of crap. Take away “Under Pressure” of this and all you have left is a bunch of weak badly recorded tripe. Queen had such a unique sound and style. One could spot one of their records a mile away. Take away Freddie’s voice from most of their later recordings and you could tell them apart from the rest of those crappy bands of that era that never realized disco was dead or that over used a synthesizer to death. Instead of incorporating new styles or technology into Queen and making it their own, they simply choose to mimic what others had done. Unfortunately they continued this trend all the way through the end of their careers. I know they are some who will defend this album as then trying something different, but trying something different doesn’t necessary make it good. Most of those who defend this album are in Europe where Queen could have simply farted on a record and they would have praised it as pure genius. I sentiments reflect most of USA fans opinions on this matter. Don’t get me wrong they had some wonderful moments later on, but they were few and far between. It’s little wonder Queen never bothered to return to the USA. I guess they could face the music. Louis |
| deleted user 19.06.2006 21:07 |
I dont mind it but that cool cat song must die! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.06.2006 21:21 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Las Palabras = pretty, but you know, it worked better when called Teo Torriate.Yeah for some reason I never really liked Las Palabras that much. The video is boring too, they all look too overdressed... |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 19.06.2006 21:22 |
<font color=orange>Fight From The Inside wrote: I dont mind it but that cool cat song must die!What about the Crazy Frog? At least Cool Cat is cooler then the Frog! ;-P |
| M a t i a s M a y 19.06.2006 21:45 |
HOT SPACE: HOT SHIT Staying Power: Queen trying to be the Bee Gees, and failing Dancer: Nothing at all Las Palabras de Amor: just a nice song Cool Cat: awful, freddie sings out of tune, it's horrible Body Language: disgusting song Calling All Girls: stupid sond, so damn stupid Put Out The Fire: another rock song by Mr May Life Is Real: just a silly song Back Chat: just a VERY silly song Action This Day: just a silly song Under Pressure: great song, love it! BWAHAHAHA |
| deadbird 19.06.2006 22:15 |
"i beleive "Hot Space" album is the worst of all ( shit )" Oh. Okay. I don't. Sorry you hate something. Its crazy what you can do at that point though: not listen to it. Yeah! Then you dont have to whine about hating somthing that doesnt need to affect you, and can move on to something constructive consuming your concerns and be beneficial |
| Winter Land Man 19.06.2006 22:42 |
<font color=red><b><i>M a t i a s M a y wrote: HOT SPACE: HOT SHIT Staying Power: Queen trying to be the Bee Gees, and failing Dancer: Nothing at all Las Palabras de Amor: just a nice song Cool Cat: awful, freddie sings out of tune, it's horrible Body Language: disgusting song Calling All Girls: stupid sond, so damn stupid Put Out The Fire: another rock song by Mr May Life Is Real: just a silly song Back Chat: just a VERY silly song Action This Day: just a silly song Under Pressure: great song, love it! BWAHAHAHAFreddie didn't sing out of tune. There's no such thing as out of tune, if the singer wants it that way. Then it is his way. Maybe it's the way the song is supposed to be? |
| XiaoZhu 19.06.2006 23:42 |
Dear Topicstarter, to say it is in your opinion the worst of all Queen albums is okay. But to call it "shit" is a bit rough. What is "shit"? We know, the album came out in 1982. Maybe you don't like most of the early-80s stuff, not important if it is Queen or not. I think that Hot Space has a good sound, some good songs, of course some weaker songs too (like any other album on the planet). But Life is real, Words of Love, Under Pressure or Back Chat are not that bad to call a whole album "shit". What do you think of Flash Gordon? Or Mr Bad Guy? Or Roger's Fun in Space? The Cross' Shove it? Michael Jackson's Thriller? Pink Floyd's The Wall? All released in the early/mid 80s. IMO those albums are not better than Hot Space. I personally don't like Flash Gordon, and I help myself by not listening to it... Greetings from China Xiao Zhu |
| deadbird 20.06.2006 00:17 |
guys, have a cow-- i enjoy the music! I dance to it! I jam to it! thats because I dont slow down in life and ask myself to hate things before I just allow myself to like them WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE REASONS WHY. And that rules that your from china. Hi! I'm from America. |
| deleted user 20.06.2006 05:47 |
I actually remember reading in Guitarist magazine when I first got into Queen that it was a terrible album, but I went out and got it anyway because I'm such a die-hard. I found that although I didn't like it as much as others, it wasn't actually as bad as I had read it was. In fact I think I've listened to it more times that I've listened to The Works, and the same magazine told me that was a much better album. |
| deleted user 20.06.2006 07:27 |
I love Queen very much and i think its cool that they can do diffrent styles off Music take Hot Space for example a few good disco songs on their so not the worst Queen album in my Opinon i think its Flash Gordon |
| M a t i a s M a y 22.06.2006 02:55 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:You're wrong. When something is out of tune, it's just out of tune. It's not the way the singer wants to sing it, because you can't sing out of tune if you know how to sing in tune... Freddie always sings perfectly in tune, except in this sad song.<font color=red><b><i>M a t i a s M a y wrote: HOT SPACE: HOT SHIT Staying Power: Queen trying to be the Bee Gees, and failing Dancer: Nothing at all Las Palabras de Amor: just a nice song Cool Cat: awful, freddie sings out of tune, it's horrible Body Language: disgusting song Calling All Girls: stupid sond, so damn stupid Put Out The Fire: another rock song by Mr May Life Is Real: just a silly song Back Chat: just a VERY silly song Action This Day: just a silly song Under Pressure: great song, love it! BWAHAHAHAFreddie didn't sing out of tune. There's no such thing as out of tune, if the singer wants it that way. Then it is his way. Maybe it's the way the song is supposed to be? |
| john bodega 22.06.2006 13:14 |
M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>The Rainmaker wrote: HOT SPACE: HOT SHIT Staying Power: Queen trying to be the Bee Gees, and failing Dancer: Nothing at all Las Palabras de Amor: just a nice song Cool Cat: awful, freddie sings out of tune, it's horrible Body Language: disgusting song Calling All Girls: stupid sond, so damn stupid Put Out The Fire: another rock song by Mr May Life Is Real: just a silly song Back Chat: just a VERY silly song Action This Day: just a silly song Under Pressure: great song, love it! BWAHAHAHAHaha... well. No. Life is Real is a good song. And Cool Cat is only as atonal as *someone's* rendition of Bijou! :P But I must agree, certainly not their best album. I'd only go for two or three songs here, the rest I can do without. |