QueenZone discussion #792276

Queen Archivist wrote: ON PAGE 7 of the "GREG BROOKS REPLIES - addressing the issue of whinging weirdos" thread, you will find.... ………………………………………………………………………… ALEX SOLAN Greg, no matter how hard you try I WON'T let you suck my cock sorry, pal it's not gonna happen Cum on?give him a chance?his begging on his knees ………………………………………………………………………… From Me... GREG BROOKS, QUEEN ARCHIVIST. This is the calibre of SOME of the people that are members of QZ. I rest my case. This is the sort of Cretin, dick-head, pleb, moron, I was talking about and describing the other day, when loads of you got all angry and defensive, and disliked my vocabulary!!! But… there it is, see for yourself. There are some complete idiots on here polluting your airwaves, and you do nothing to squash them out. How can you expect to be taken seriously by me or anyone else? You should spend some of the time you spend having a go at me and my non-existent wife and children, filtering out these losers. This is why I cannot take QZ seriously. Can you blame me? GB

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote: A series of 1970's shows would be greatly appreciated by most fans I'm sure, who would rather listen to It's Late and Liar than Radio Ga Ga and Tear It Up.

WhatMustHeThink wrote:

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote: A series of 1970's shows would be greatly appreciated by most fans I'm sure, who would rather listen to It's Late and Liar than Radio Ga Ga and Tear It Up.

*Dreams* That would be fucking great, it really would, but I dont think that an archivest gets any say over whats released, he just has to dig up the actual stuff I suppose. But that would be awesome, it really would. I havnt seen/heard It's Late live, that would make my day....

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote:

WhatMustHeThink wrote:

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote: A series of 1970's shows would be greatly appreciated by most fans I'm sure, who would rather listen to It's Late and Liar than Radio Ga Ga and Tear It Up.

*Dreams* That would be fucking great, it really would, but I dont think that an archivest gets any say over whats released, he just has to dig up the actual stuff I suppose. But that would be awesome, it really would. I havnt seen/heard It's Late live, that would make my day....

But Queen Productions and Greg Brooks obviously work together and must have an idea of what fans want...It's Late live is superb!

WhatMustHeThink wrote:

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote:

WhatMustHeThink wrote:

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote: A series of 1970's shows would be greatly appreciated by most fans I'm sure, who would rather listen to It's Late and Liar than Radio Ga Ga and Tear It Up.

*Dreams* That would be fucking great, it really would, but I dont think that an archivest gets any say over whats released, he just has to dig up the actual stuff I suppose. But that would be awesome, it really would. I havnt seen/heard It's Late live, that would make my day....

But Queen Productions and Greg Brooks obviously work together and must have an idea of what fans want...It's Late live is superb!

Got any links to a video? Perdy please? :)

Crockerdile wrote: Plus all this negativity about Greg's book... I mean really, why? it's a book for crying out loud! is it really worth getting that wound up over the order of songs played at some show or other that you probably didn't see, over twenty years ago. I've got a copy of the book, its an interesting enough read to dip in and out of, if I spotted any errors I'd be inclined to write to the writer, point out what's good about it and follow with what I think needs changing to improve it, to diss it as utter crap because of a few errors here or there seems a bit overly negative and a bit sad really....

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: So, it doesn't bother you in the least that the official Queen archivist's new book, with the help of Queen's audio/video vaults, still has 500+ errors? Considering the material and connections he has, his book should be nothing short of perfect. It should have been the comprehensive guide to Queen live. Instead, we have amateur and dedicated fans with websites that can offer so much more.

Crockerdile wrote: Hmmm, interesting question, does it "bother" me? Well, not amazingly no! it cost £7.95 and gives a nice flavour of the history of Queen's live work, a bit of narrative, some nice pictures, can't complain too loudly :o) 500+ errors you say, lets see, it runs to 293 pages, taking your word for it that's less than a couple of errors per page and given the sheer wealth of information on each page, that's not bad going!

Perhaps if these errors with the evidence to back them up got reported back in a constructive manner you'd have something better brought out in future.

But really, unless someone reckons they could write a better book from scratch and guarantee it will be 100% accurate, I don't think their in a position to go off on one about how awful they think it is.

Crockerdile wrote: 500+ errors you say, lets see, it runs to 293 pages, taking your word for it that's less than a couple of errors per page and given the sheer wealth of information on each page, that's not bad going!

Lester Burnham wrote: However, Crockerdile, I haven't seen your name around here before, and I'm not sure if you're new here or if you were just a registered lurker, but Greg's reputation on this board dipped considerably after another childish outburst a few years ago (probably around 2004). Somewhere else, someone has linked to his posts, and they were very pathetic on his part, so I can say that most of the words of criticism are justified.

Crockerdile wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: So, it doesn't bother you in the least that the official Queen archivist's new book, with the help of Queen's audio/video vaults, still has 500+ errors? .

500+ errors you say, lets see, it runs to 293 pages, taking your word for it that's less than a couple of errors per page and given the sheer wealth of information on each page, that's not bad going! Perhaps if these errors with the evidence to back them up got reported back in a constructive manner you'd have something better brought out in future. But really, unless someone reckons they could write a better book from scratch and guarantee it will be 100% accurate, I don't think their in a position to go off on one about how awful they think it is. :o)

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: ...would you be happy if you bought a Car Repair manual for a Ford Mustang and found out the content was for a VW Beetle?

Zebonka12 wrote: Another thread??? Christ... GB, you don't *need* to tell us that there's some fools around. It's an internet forum, it comes with the territory. But you don't make it any better by making more threads - in fact, you only make yourself look stupid, like Tom Cruise or something. Please, for the love of Mike, stop pushing more interesting threads off the front page.

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: two errors per page? - some pages are mainly pictures

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: two errors per page? - some pages are mainly pictures

Actually, I'm including pictures as being part of the errors! Dozens of the pictures are under the wrong tour/year. Greg even wrote in one of the prefaces that this has been corrected, but since many pictures are clearly in the wrong place, one can only conclude that Greg doesn't know how they dressed on each tour, and what each stage looked like. For instance, he's got a Hot Space picture of Brian in the Live Killers section (note the "Body Language" arrows on his shirt on page 143). There's a picture of Freddie with an acoustic guitar playing CLTCL in the Live Killers section, which is 9 months before they played that song on stage. There's a picture of Freddie in his Hot Space outfit in the Mexico 81 section (again, the Body Language arrows). I searched for ten seconds to find those three mistakes. He's got a picture of the "Pizza Oven" stage on the April 1978 page. Any intermediate Queen enthusiast knows how horribly wrong that is. The Pizza Oven was built for the Jazz tour, not the News Of The World tour. [SNIP] His grammar is often below high school level. This is the work of the hired official Queen archivist? I haven't even begun to scratch the surface, even with everything I've posted on this forum on the subject. I promise, when I've finally finished organizing my notes, I will post a FULL analysis of both of Greg's books, including the list of errors from the first book which were still not corrected in the second book. Maybe a few more people will see just how completely unfit he is for his job.

Shadowlands wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: two errors per page? - some pages are mainly pictures

Actually, I'm including pictures as being part of the errors! Dozens of the pictures are under the wrong tour/year. Greg even wrote in one of the prefaces that this has been corrected, but since many pictures are clearly in the wrong place, one can only conclude that Greg doesn't know how they dressed on each tour, and what each stage looked like. For instance, he's got a Hot Space picture of Brian in the Live Killers section (note the "Body Language" arrows on his shirt on page 143). There's a picture of Freddie with an acoustic guitar playing CLTCL in the Live Killers section, which is 9 months before they played that song on stage. There's a picture of Freddie in his Hot Space outfit in the Mexico 81 section (again, the Body Language arrows). I searched for ten seconds to find those three mistakes. He's got a picture of the "Pizza Oven" stage on the April 1978 page. Any intermediate Queen enthusiast knows how horribly wrong that is. The Pizza Oven was built for the Jazz tour, not the News Of The World tour. [SNIP] His grammar is often below high school level. This is the work of the hired official Queen archivist? I haven't even begun to scratch the surface, even with everything I've posted on this forum on the subject. I promise, when I've finally finished organizing my notes, I will post a FULL analysis of both of Greg's books, including the list of errors from the first book which were still not corrected in the second book. Maybe a few more people will see just how completely unfit he is for his job.

Good grief...is this true?