| Queen Archivist 25.05.2006 17:20 |
Hello QZ people. Greg Brooks here with some things to point out if I may... 1. Some uninformed plonker on QZ suggested something about how can I have the audacity to come to QZ asking for help. Well, I DIDN'T. I sent my request to Jen ay BM.com and one of YOU guys posted it on QZ. Not me. I didn't know it was on here until tonight. 2. Some other pleb said that the Queen Archivist should know everything about Queen, including where in the world they had a No 1 single, and when, etc. WHY? Why should I know that? Do YOU all know every detail of that nature? If you do, you are a sad git. Get a life! 3. I only mentioned 'Radio Ga Ga' as a pure example. Was it No 1 anywhere in the world? If so, where? That song and any others. Most intelligent people understood that and replied accordingly. There was no agenda for some people in QZ to find. Just a simple question, which certain simpletons made into something other than simple!!!!!! Everyone else 'got it' just fine. 4. I am only trying to make the Queen project I'm working on as interesting and informative as I possibly can. FOR WHOM??? Pink Floyd fans? Stones fanatics? UB40 collectors? No... I'm putting in 14 hour days at the moment on Queen Singles, FOR YOU PEOPLE, as well as myself. But I get waylaid by certain dick-heads who have nothing constructive to offer at all. They are neither use nor ornament... just aggravating to all the rest of us. I'm looking into precisely who Produced each song, rather than just generically who produced each LP. I'm looking into exactly where EVERY single was issued in the world. And numerous other things... consulting with some very knowledgable Queen experts that would make some people on this site look EVEN more simple than they already do, and that's no mean feat let me tell you. It's only a minority of QZ-ers, I know - but boy are they THICK! Can't these people offer ANYTHING useful? SOMETHING useful must surely be lurking in the recesses of their empty craniums! They are supposed to be Queen fans after all. Right? They surely have more to offer than negative ill-informed whinging, or otherwise what is the point of having a site like this? WE have been ensuring that exactly the right mix, be it a 7" edit, early fade, radio version, segueway track, etc, features where appropriate, and NOT the LP version. We want to ensure that these recordings are precisely as went out on the original vinyl. THIS has occupied me and US for many weeks, to get it right.... so that the odd pleb on QZ has the fewest possible things to whinge about, and to bore us all to death with. This site is for QUEEN FANS, yes? How about sending me something useful, like 122 people have so far done this week, rather than complaining about trivial issues like about me having the audacity to "Come here and ask" - which i DID NOT do. Is it REALLY that gauling to ome of you that I don't know from memory EVERY Queen No 1 everywhere in on Earth? God, some people have empty lives and minds to match! 5. The QZ-er called TRS-Romania is clearly a top drawer shit-head. Why don't these people - few though they thankfully are - come and find me at the conventions, tell me their irritations to my face, rather than hiding behind this site, behind my back? Look me in the eyes when you complain, that's the least anyone should do - it's common courtesy. Why are you so utterly spineless? I've said this before, but still these creepy little crap-for-brains weirdos mouth it off on here, about me, and then hide. What do they do to BETTER the Queen catalogue and archive? Do they have any purpose to be alive, indeed? What have they ever done for Queen fans? 6. I invite ALL REAL fans to help us with good solid info and overlook the morons that only seek to hinder and whinge about nothing of any significance. Do something useful for Queen fans and for the betterment of Queen Singles, instead of your mindless feeble tittle-tattle. It is SO SO SO very boring. |
| Queen Archivist 25.05.2006 17:28 |
Yes, well said Greg. I whole-heartedly agree. There's some right silly sods on this site - among all the good and knowledgeable folk. By the way, Brooksie, you wrote 'ome' when you meant 'some' in your ranting monolgue.... before some dull cretin spots that and comments, because they have nothing better to do. Yes... well done. I back you 126%, and a bit more on Mondays!!! |
| S@turn 25.05.2006 17:45 |
and I thought that this had to be the topic for serious discussions :):):):) |
| Maz 25.05.2006 17:45 |
Sounds like an interesting project, though the implication that a "real fan" would not dare to criticize is unnerving. Surely this whole debate would be a non-issue if GB was not so combatitive toward QZ. It seems that we hear nothing from GB until the criticism gets to a thundering level, then he comes out swinging (either here or at QOL).
Take a step back, be a more active in the community, and I'm sure the discourse would improve. Otherwise, we go on track record.
One tiny comment, however, in an effort to be constructive:
Queen Archivist wrote: 4. I am only trying to make the Queen project I'm working on as interesting and informative as I possibly can.If so, then please explain the failure to correct certain errors in the recent edition to Queen Live. QZ has only received one side of that issue, and I'm sure that there would be many individuals more than interested in reading your comments. Otherwise, we go on track record. |
| Bohardy 25.05.2006 18:20 |
As Zeni alludes to Greg, much of the adverse opinion on this site of your 'research' stems from the fact that, had you been more forthcoming and less antagonistic to the more knowledgeable and respected members of this site, your updated version of Queen Live would have been a whole lot more accurate. Either fairly or unfairly, the (perhaps majority) opinion amongst the more established users of this site is that despite your official position, and all the benefits that entails, the work you've produced is still below the standard of what people here could (and in fact, have) achieve, despite having none of the resources at their disposal that you have. People here ARE willing to help you, and of course want to see great new Queen product (which for me, this new singles boxset sounds like it will be). But you don't do yourself any favours at all by only coming on here to post inflammatory comments, and by rubbishing the knowledge and opinion of anyone who happened to be born too late to appreciate Queen whilst they were around. |
| Suigi 25.05.2006 18:21 |
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum. Don't let the bastards grind you down. Greg, I've only been at this point for a year or three now, and I have no idea what you've done to tick off some of the people here. I support you in your work, but I honestly feel that re-releasing and re-re-releasing songs in compilations and bonus versions of albums is a bit of a money grab, and a wayward venture. The Queen Archives must be filled with true gems. Why can't us regular Q-Fans get something like the Freddie Mercury box, with all the spiffy demos and B-Sides and unreleased tracks and such? Not trying to be offensive, but I'd like to hear what's in the vault eventually. |
| radio_what's_new 25.05.2006 18:33 |
Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you expect? A statue? |
| Champipple 25.05.2006 18:43 |
Quote: "Greg, I've only been at this point for a year or three now, and I have no idea what you've done to tick off some of the people here." Did you read the same post I did? Assuming that Greg really did post this, it's appalling. I don't know much about Greg and the past relationship with Queenzone, but as a longtime Queen fan I'm disgusted with Greg's attitude toward fans displayed here. By his own accounts he's had 110 people help him out, and he comes on here and spews that garbage. He makes a lot of good points, but the venom and lack of respect is trashy. I'll not be buying anything with Greg Brooks name attached to it. Sorry. |
| ok.computer 25.05.2006 18:58 |
Incredible. And I thought *I* whined a lot. Hang on a minute...I do! However, I'm going to cut-and-paste from a post I put up in 2004. I think it sums up how I feel about the subjects of re-issues, box sets, and the whole "what's-in-the-archives" thing... Oh, I'm 34 now. Tempus Fugit, when one awaits the box sets. I'm actually frightened at the fact that I posted this TWO years ago. And now we're only getting...a SINGLES BOXSET???? Dear Greg I'm a regular reader/infrequent poster to this site. I've been a Queen fan since the age of six, and now, while still only 32, my tastes have diversified beyond recognition, though I still have a soft spot for Their Majesties. I know you're a busy man. I'm sure you've been hands-on with the excellent Milton Keynes DVD and CD. (And by the way, I had a copy of it on VHS from its original broadcast on the Tube (I think?) but I gotta know - just how DID you get rid of the duff vocal note on Fat Bottomed Girls??). I'm sure you've been busy with the Freddie box set all that time ago. I'm sure you've been very busy with a myriad other things, like the downloadable bootlegs on QOL. But Greg, it's nearly Christmas. Again. And another Christmas is going to pass without the "definitive" box set type stuff that's been rumoured for a very long time. A VERY LONG time. I'm not going to complain. I leave that to others on this site. But here, can we please please please please have some idea of what these boxsets might entail, and when they might be available? I have a couple of reasons for this. (1) I can't wait to get my mitts on them. (2) I'm not getting any younger, though I still do listen to Radio 1, in the privacy of my own home... (3) While Queen's popularity is immense at the moment, it can't last forever. And for this to be a commercially viable enterprise, and ergo, worth doing, you need to get your skates on. Truly, I am really keen to see the fruits of your labour, but doubtless if you read this when in bad form, I may only feel the vitriol and scathe of your reply. But purty purty please - put some of us out of our misery and let us know, what we in Northern Ireland call, the craic! Paul |
| rocks. 25.05.2006 19:21 |
Damn, I had a comment all typed out, which was actually quite nice and not rude at all towards anybody, then I realised I dont want to be involved. That said, Mr. Brooks, I would kill for your job, you lucky bastard. |
| MOANZONE TWAT 25.05.2006 19:26 |
I just wish that with my over $100,000 worth of Queen stuff i purchased throughout the years, and going to tons of concerts, buying cd's everytime they come out (even the not so good ones, and the DVD's that have the same compilied bs), i could get something like a rare concert on DVD, or maybe something rare on cd?? Isn't it owed to all of us deticated fans that have spent more on Queen than alot of ppl make in a years time? I have no disrepect to GB, but i just wish to stress the fact that us long time Queen fans want something new and good, not the same old bullshit like another volume to Greatest Hits or Greatest Video hits! We want old concerts & Rare unlreased material, i mean come on! And i do agree that GB shouldn't be expected to know every detail about Queen's #1's, ect., i have been a Fanatic for many of years, and knew Freddie, but i still don't know every damn thing about Queen, i wasn't in the band and neither was GB, and nobody has the time to sit all day and study Queen, and devote their whole life to Queen's discography, and Chronology. Just read things throughly before responding with hate mail about someone you DO NOT know personally. I don't know GB personally, i have met him, but i don't know exactly what everyone means when they make statements! Good day all, and try to refrain from flaming me for this, i have a life, so i really could care less what you write! :) |
| rocks. 25.05.2006 19:31 |
YoungStratMan wrote: I just wish that with my over $100,000 worth of Queen stuff i purchased throughout the years, and going to tons of concerts, buying cd's everytime they come out (even the not so good ones, and the DVD's that have the same compilied bs), i could get something like a rare concert on DVD, or maybe something rare on cd?? Isn't it owed to all of us deticated fans that have spent more on Queen than alot of ppl make in a years time? I have no disrepect to GB, but i just wish to stress the fact that us long time Queen fans want something new and good, not the same old bullshit like another volume to Greatest Hits or Greatest Video hits! We want old concerts & Rare unlreased material, i mean come on! And i do agree that GB shouldn't be expected to know every detail about Queen's #1's, ect., i have been a Fanatic for many of years, and knew Freddie, but i still don't know every damn thing about Queen, i wasn't in the band and neither was GB, and nobody has the time to sit all day and study Queen, and devote their whole life to Queen's discography, and Chronology. Just read things throughly before responding with hate mail about someone you DO NOT know personally. I don't know GB personally, i have met him, but i don't know exactly what everyone means when they make statements! Good day all, and try to refrain from flaming me for this, i have a life, so i really could care less what you write! :)I like you. :D I wont flame yah, I promise! I soo agree on wanting new stuff...damn, 100 000 on Queen, i wish I had your stuff. |
| Bohardy 25.05.2006 20:15 |
Pretty much everyone that's posted after me is missing the point: Greg doesn't control what gets released by QP. It's not up to him. Sure, he's had a hand in finding some of the content that's ended up on some of the relases, but there's not a great deal of point in apportioning blame or directing your vitrilo at him because the boxsets haven't been released yet. |
| PieterMC 25.05.2006 20:29 |
Oh dear Zeni.... you quoted Mr. Brooks. Don't you realise that everything that he typed was "Property of Queen Productions"??? I guess your screwed.... |
| ok.computer 25.05.2006 20:38 |
YoungStratMan wrote: [SNIP] I have no disrepect to GB, but i just wish to stress the fact that us long time Queen fans want something new and good, not the same old bullshit like another volume to Greatest Hits or Greatest Video hits! We want old concerts & Rare unlreased material, i mean come on! And i do agree that GB shouldn't be expected to know every detail about Queen's #1's, ect., i have been a Fanatic for many of years, and knew Freddie, but i still don't know every damn thing about Queen, i wasn't in the band and neither was GB, and nobody has the time to sit all day and study Queen, and devote their whole life to Queen's discography, and Chronology. Just read things throughly before responding with hate mail about someone you DO NOT know personally. I don't know GB personally, i have met him, but i don't know exactly what everyone means when they make statements! Good day all, and try to refrain from flaming me for this, i have a life, so i really could care less what you write! :)So you'll not mind anyone responding then. Nobody disagrees with your sentiment. Most of it anyway. But this man is probably being paid a consultancy rate to archive the Queen material. And for what? For the personal pleasure of the remaining three members? I doubt it. I think some of us are just questioning the validity of - what? - at least five years on the job, and very little to show for it. This stuff isn't going to get gifted to the V&A in London. God knows we've been teased and tantalised enough about what is and isn't in the dusty archives of Queen. I don't doubt it's a painstaking process. I don't doubt that if this guy is a professional archivist, he's working on non-Queen jobs too. Some of us HAVE flamed Mr Brooks in a reprehensible manner. Some of us, however, have questioned just what the hell is going on over at Queen HQ. Not all of us have managed $100,000 of expenditure on Queen. But a lot of us are very keen to shell out Freddie box-set-esque prices again for some genuinely fresh and interesting Queen material. I don't think that it's any bad thing for Mr Brooks to know that the bar has been set high for his task. |
| Pim Derks 25.05.2006 20:44 |
"No... I'm putting in 14 hour days at the moment on Queen Singles, FOR YOU PEOPLE, as well as myself. But I get waylaid by certain dick-heads who have nothing constructive to offer at all. " I'm sure you wouldn't be putting 14 hours a day in this project if you weren't generously paid for it. And that is exactly the problem: you keep asking everyone for help (for which no-one seems to get credited, regarding several stories i've heard of people correcting mistakes in Queen Live and not getting credit they deserve) while it's YOUR job and not OUR job to get this data. I'm sure there'll be lots of people willing to help if you wouldn't call them all the things you've called fans so far. And if you give people the credit they deserve. |
| MOANZONE TWAT 25.05.2006 21:14 |
Good response Pim. I have several probabally unseen video's on 8mm tape, and lots of concerts that are in pristine condition video & audio that i would be willing to possibly work something out with QP, but i want some material that is from the 'Infamous, & supposed' Queen vault! I would be willing to donate a pristine copy of Hyde Park '76, only if us fans get a 70's concert on dvd in return, besides the Hyde Park if i donated it. So if you read this GB, email me, maybe QP has an interest in this? If they already have it in Pristine Quality, then release it! I know there are plenty Awesome quality Video concerts that are there because i have several. |
| stateside fan 25.05.2006 21:18 |
hey Greg-why not come clean with the live killers info??? |
| Mr Faron Hyte 25.05.2006 21:20 |
Bohardy wrote: Pretty much everyone that's posted after me is missing the point: Greg doesn't control what gets released by QP. It's not up to him. Sure, he's had a hand in finding some of the content that's ended up on some of the relases, but there's not a great deal of point in apportioning blame or directing your vitrilo at him because the boxsets haven't been released yet.I don't blame him for the box sets not coming out. I blame him for talking to people like shit and generally being an asshole. I really feel sorry for his wife and children, assuming he has any. God help whoever has to live with someone like that. And if he thinks I'm going to pay for travel to and accomodation in the UK just to tell him he's an asshole to his face, he has an enormously over-inflated sense of himself. I wouldn't cross the street to pick his pocket. |
| rocks. 25.05.2006 21:31 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote:Oh, burn. Im not getting involved any which way, but, in the words of Fez, AH-burn!Bohardy wrote: Pretty much everyone that's posted after me is missing the point: Greg doesn't control what gets released by QP. It's not up to him. Sure, he's had a hand in finding some of the content that's ended up on some of the relases, but there's not a great deal of point in apportioning blame or directing your vitrilo at him because the boxsets haven't been released yet.I don't blame him for the box sets not coming out. I blame him for talking to people like shit and generally being an asshole. I really feel sorry for his wife and children, assuming he has any. God help whoever has to live with someone like that. And if he thinks I'm going to pay for travel to and accomodation in the UK just to tell him he's an asshole to his face, he has an enormously over-inflated sense of himself. I wouldn't cross the street to pick his pocket. |
| ok.computer 25.05.2006 21:32 |
Pim Derks wrote: I'm sure you wouldn't be putting 14 hours a day in this project if you weren't generously paid for it. And that is exactly the problem: you keep asking everyone for help (for which no-one seems to get credited, regarding several stories i've heard of people correcting mistakes in Queen Live and not getting credit they deserve) while it's YOUR job and not OUR job to get this data. I'm sure there'll be lots of people willing to help if you wouldn't call them all the things you've called fans so far. And if you give people the credit they deserve.You know what the most annoying thing is? He'll not even reply to argue his case on this. |
| ibanez122 25.05.2006 23:05 |
ok.computer wrote:lol, also its pretty bad that hes letting someting like a little bitching get to him - so that he has to make a thread on it. Its the fucking internet GB..get over it - people talk shit all the time. Id be a different story if it were face to face.Pim Derks wrote: I'm sure you wouldn't be putting 14 hours a day in this project if you weren't generously paid for it. And that is exactly the problem: you keep asking everyone for help (for which no-one seems to get credited, regarding several stories i've heard of people correcting mistakes in Queen Live and not getting credit they deserve) while it's YOUR job and not OUR job to get this data. I'm sure there'll be lots of people willing to help if you wouldn't call them all the things you've called fans so far. And if you give people the credit they deserve.You know what the most annoying thing is? He'll not even reply to argue his case on this. Pointless thread |
| luthorn 25.05.2006 23:18 |
YoungStratMan wrote: I just wish that with my over $100,000 worth of Queen stuff i purchased throughout the years, and going to tons of concerts, buying cd's everytime they come out (even the not so good ones, and the DVD's that have the same compilied bs), i could get something like a rare concert on DVD, or maybe something rare on cd?? Isn't it owed to all of us deticated fans that have spent more on Queen than alot of ppl make in a years time? I have no disrepect to GB, but i just wish to stress the fact that us long time Queen fans want something new and good, not the same old bullshit like another volume to Greatest Hits or Greatest Video hits! We want old concerts & Rare unlreased material, i mean come on! And i do agree that GB shouldn't be expected to know every detail about Queen's #1's, ect., i have been a Fanatic for many of years, and knew Freddie, but i still don't know every damn thing about Queen, i wasn't in the band and neither was GB, and nobody has the time to sit all day and study Queen, and devote their whole life to Queen's discography, and Chronology. Just read things throughly before responding with hate mail about someone you DO NOT know personally. I don't know GB personally, i have met him, but i don't know exactly what everyone means when they make statements! Good day all, and try to refrain from flaming me for this, i have a life, so i really could care less what you write! :)I second, third, fourth and infinite that!!! Well said my friend. No more no less. |
| john bodega 25.05.2006 23:44 |
Shouldn't it be easy to find all this info? It's Property of Queen Productions. (Yeah, I keep saying this, and yeah, I saw someone else do it earlier in the thread, but it's almost as funny as Heather Mills jokes). |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 00:36 |
Dear mr Brooks, Thanks for calling me a shit-head (and everything else) I won't communicate back to you in the same way, but you are clearly seeing the general opinion of many Queenzoners regarding your attitude towards people (and your vocabulary). If you would be so kind to let me know your business e-mail address so we can all look you straight in the eyes and everybody can clearly state their opinion towards you (can we send a copy to JB as well???) Stefan PS In normal business situations insulting your costumers would mean one thing: you would be fired! Think about it before you write anything like that again! |
| inu-liger 26.05.2006 00:49 |
Unfortunately, TRS, Greg is a freelance worker, so there's no way he could get "fired" from anything. |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 00:53 |
<b><FONT SIZE=4>Inu-Liger</b> wrote: Unfortunately, TRS, Greg is a freelance worker, so there's no way he could get "fired" from anything.Incorrect, dear Inu. The services of freelancers can be "no longer required" if those in charge feel his or her work (or attitude) is not met. |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 00:54 |
exactly Lester Stefan |
| Maz 26.05.2006 01:56 |
There are some good points in this thread that GB could easily address. As I said, the project sounds very interesting and has the promise of giving fans some great information. Instead, GB seems content to reply in that other thread and continue to call people names and insult fans. Let's discuss fan criticism and see if it's fair or not fair. Or, GB, you can continue to call people "planks," "plods" and wobblies and have people question your maturity. What I bet happens, however, is that more intelligent heads will lean on GB to just let the matter drop and he'll disappear once again. Pity. |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 03:07 |
To come back to Greg's first message saying: Quote: ". Some uninformed plonker on QZ suggested something about how can I have the audacity to come to QZ asking for help. Well, I DIDN'T. I sent my request to Jen ay BM.com and one of YOU guys posted it on QZ. Not me. I didn't know it was on here until tonight." End Quote The original message from Greg on Brianmay.com was: Quote: "COULD YOU ALSO PASS THIS EMAIL ON TO OTHER FANS/CONTACTS/EXPERTS YOU KNOW AROUND THE WORLD, PLEASE. PLEASE DO NOT SEND DETAILS YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN OF" End Quote So I did my job and some sarcasm at the end of my message ;-) ;-) Quote: "note: Greg is asking to write your answers at brianmay.com@clara.co.uk personal note: in my humble opinion it comes across as a partial joke... to ask us the fans to send him the information and the question "Was Radio Ga Ga a nr 1 hit ANYWHERE" made me laugh even more But since we support our dear mr Brooks, I hereby would like to ask you all to send him a nice e-mail to express our feelings towards his bright mind! " End Quote It seems some people do get winded up pretty quickly. But it does not matter too much. I politely asked mr Brooks anyway to contact me by e-mail. Since I am (a "bloody dutchman") living in Romania, I would be more than glad to come over personally to have a nice chat with mr Brooks (as he requested). So the next time I am in England Greg, I can give you a call and we go out for a pint of beer? Stefan a.k.a TRS-Romania PS my other nicknames are currently also: a cowardly shit a clear idiot a cowardly idiot a cowardly little nobody a spineless wonder a person without a back bone and real identity a crab under a rock a cowardly shit a cowardly shit the next day as well when I wake up a person with a big mouth an 11 year old an uninformed plonker dick-head a lurker in the recess of my empty craniums a person with an empty live (and minds) a top drawer shit-head an utterly spineless person a crap-for-brains weirdo a moron a mindles feeble tittle-tattle person an arse hole moaner (c) copyright: Greg Brooks (Property of Queen Productions) ;-) |
| Munchsack 26.05.2006 03:47 |
I don't think this really is Greg Brooks. You may notice that the same person posted just below. I suspect it is probably a Queenzoner using an alternate username who forgot to sign in as him/herself before making that reply. However, if this really is Greg Brooks, then I would like the record to show that I did post helpful replies in the other thread. |
| Togg 26.05.2006 04:14 |
If this really is Greg, I am staggered by his attitude and response, the man clearly has a big chip on his shoulder. Greg, if you want help from people this is not the way to get it, if you want respect, then think again, it has to be earned, and the fact that your material to date is so badly floored, yet you are not man enough to admit it and genuinely not to mention politely! ask knowledgeable fans for help, we would all be better off. Do you seriously think you are going to get any respect for writing something like that? Evey time I have heard you speak or seen you reply to an Queen fan it has been either rude, or at best behaving like a child that has been told off. If you want people to be able to speak with you direct 'face to face' then submit your email address! instead of hiding behind Jen! confront the criticism head on. I am appalled that anyone at Queen productions thinks you fit to handle this or any project for Queen. As a company director if any member of my staff posted something like that on the internet to the very people how buy the product, I would remove them immediately from their position. I shall forward your email to QP and Brian so that they may get a glimpse of your true personality. |
| The Fairy King 26.05.2006 04:25 |
Queen Archivist wrote: 5. The QZ-er called TRS-Romania is clearly a top drawer shit-head. GBI agree with you mister Queen Archivist. |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 04:34 |
if it's not Greg Brooks in the end, then it's a pretty good impersonator ;-). Anyway, in both cases I still invite him for a beer ;-) Stefan |
| Cwazy little thing 26.05.2006 04:38 |
For innaccuracy any blame can rest only with GB, and thats fair enough given the wealth of knowledge on here which is available. BUT Its not GB's fault the box sets we all want dont come out - he doesnt get to decide which projects get pursued... And I think that he was entirely justified to have a go at, and take a few potshots at anyone who did the same to him on the other thread. He made it quite clear he wasnt attacking most of us, merely the people who had only replied to that post to say something nasty, or irrelevant about innaccuracies or the absence of the box sets. In future, how abouts if theres a post like that QZoners just take a deep breath, and only reply to it if they have something useful, and relevant to say, rather than using it as another chance to jump on his back. Im not really taking sides here, but I think people are having a go more because of other things from the past, more than anything GB is doing this time. One thing I do feel strongly about is people not being credited for information or corrections - without doubt that is wrong, and I truly hope that anyone who sends information for the singles box will be credited appropriately (maybe in a "many thanks to" section in the booklet like a lot of albums have. |
| Rick 26.05.2006 04:42 |
In the end it is all 'Property of Queen Productions' :-). |
| freddie lives 28817 26.05.2006 05:31 |
Well I for one am pleased they've made a start and we're getting the B sides, extended mixes and remixes remastered and laid onto CD in the best quality possible. This means that the archive boxsets won't be full of B sides etc that will then limit the amount of archive stuff we're likely to get because EMI wants to limit the number of discs... Greg said at convention that the singles boxset was meant to be a 12 discer, but EMI have limited it to 10 discs. Thankfully that means we lose those horrid You Don't Fool Me remixes and the Rah mixes! I HAVE wondered what the heck they'd fill 10 discs with though, and now I seem to have that answer - every bloody possible edit of every single release ever made! Is that a bit TOO anal? Shame they're not spending the time remixing the B sides and extended versions to 5.1 mixes - that'd be of more interest to me than edits of singles. Anyway - each to their own - NO boxset will ever satisfy everyone, so we'll just have to see what Greg can do for us. Keep it up Greg - I know you'll get there eventually!! |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 26.05.2006 06:05 |
radio_what's_new wrote: Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you espect? A statue?Exactly what I was about to point out, Well said. (But you forgot 'dull cretin' and 'silly sods') |
| Rick 26.05.2006 06:11 |
BTW, Greg. I can offer you a job as paperboy, shall we change job? You'll get some fresh air, good for the oxygen-circulation in the brain, you know. ;-)) |
| Óli Gneisti Sóleyjarson 26.05.2006 06:30 |
I am always amazed at the way Greg Brooks communicates with Queen fans. One thing I have always wondered about, what is his qualifications for being an archivist? |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 06:36 |
To POPPY... who wrote... You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. There are too many people in the world like you... who detest others - people they have never met in their life, but whom will form an opinion of DETESTING THEM based on nothing very much. That's an awful burden to bare. I don't detest you Poppy. I have never met you. I do not detest anyone. That is an incredibly unhealthy way to conduct your life. You are not a very nice person, are you Poppy. Have a think about why you hate so easily. And try to be more tolerant. Shame on you! GB |
| AC 26.05.2006 07:21 |
Dear mr Brooks, I'm an Italian university student, a Queen fan since approx. 1997. I don't have the time and the money to come to England just to talk with you face to face. If your job prevents you from coming here in Italy to talk with me, why don't you email me at *DELETED*? We'll be able to talk via email and have an honest discussione, even if we can't meet face to face! I look forward to your email. AC |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 07:26 |
Greg, And if you visit AC in Italy it's just very close to Romania ;-) We have some very good English pubs like Whispers who have live sports on big screens ----- Coming Up! Live Sport at Whispers This Week SOCCER Saturday 27th 17.00 SkySports2 Barnsley v Swansea (League 1 play off final) 22.00 Br. Eurosport France v Mexico 22.30 TVR 2 Romania v Colombia Sunday 28th 17.00 SkySports2 Grimsby v Cheltenham (League 2 play off final) Tuesday 30th 22.00 SS3 England v Hungary CRICKET SKYSPORTS1 - From 12.30 - England v Sri Lanka 2nd RUGBY Friday 26th 22.00 SkySports1 Bradford Bulls v Salford (superleague) Saturday 27th 17.00 SkySports3 Sale v Leicester (Guinness Prem Final)*** 21.15 SkySports1 Wigan v St. Helens (superleague) Sunday 28th 17.00 SkySports3 England v Barbarians Monday 29th 15.00 SkySports2 County Finals 21.00 SkySports2 Salford v Harlequins A pint of Guinness (568 ml)will cost you around 2 GBP per glass (so we can have a few if we are on low budget) (link ) I will be looking forward to your positive response ;-) since I am too poor of a bugger to fly all the way to England ;-) |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 07:40 |
TRS-Romania... Stephan. i did already reply to you, but on another part of QZ. Sorry about that. i always seem to add to the wrong link - or thread thingy. I really don't follow these sites enough to know my way around. I come in and look around about twice a year. I HAVE replied to you. Basically I suggest, in that thread, that I don't want to write you on email or speak on the phone, as you suggested, or on QZ. I'm suggesting that we meet up in person so that you can air your views of me... professional and personal, to my face. In person is much better than in writing. That's the crux of what I said. Maybe you could find that thread and paste in here, if this is the right location, and that one isn't. Lets talk in person. GB |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 08:06 |
Greg, instead of barging in and calling Queen fans "dickheads" and "shitheads" and the like, a little tactfulness goes a long way. If I flew off the handle like you have because people talked about me like that, and called all my clients shitheads and dickheads, you can be positive I would be packing my supplies up and looking for a new job that very same afternoon. The same is true in most places - no matter how "modern-thinking" any corporation is, I just can't imagine a boss saying to his or her employee, "Well, you just called our most loyal customers 'dickheads' and 'shitheads'. You get a raise and a company car!" - and I find it appalling that someone officially tied to Queen would resort to that level without taking a moment to breathe and think their thoughts through rationally. You may have been joking, but I doubt it. You're backpedaling now, trying to play it off as a "haha my humor is better than yours, too bad most of you don't get it!" type of attitude, which is what people do when they know they can't take something back. If it was a joke, then we all must have missed your subtle yet high-brow humor - who knew that calling the very fans "sad gits" who possess the knowledge of every #1 single you need for this project while imploring them to "get a life", yet this is the very information from those "sad gits" that you need for this project, was now considered humorous? Well, score one for Greg Brooks! If this is how you treat most fans who even bother to question something, no matter in what respect it may be - and I'm sure it is, judging by your highly intellectual and, ahem, humorous responses on the QOL Q&A section that has mysteriously been erased - then you, sir, need to re-evaluate yourself and realize that you are burning the very bridges that you need to cross to gather the information necessary. Keep that in mind. Now, I'd LOVE to see you respond to this without resorting to childish nicknames. I'll even tell you what singles were #1 in the US if you do. However, seeing as you can't seem to address the rational thinking people in most of these threads, then I'm not going to hold my breath. |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 08:14 |
Dear Greg, You wrote: <QUOTE> Brian May expresses his thoughts on BM.com... do you all rally for HIM to be sacked if he says something unpopular or calls Seal Cullers or selfish restaurant smokers "arse-holes"? <END QUOTE> Brian is selfemployed, he can't be sacked.And if I don't like his comments or disagree with him or it is insulting what he says, then I simply don't buy his products. But you are being paid to do your work for them. That makes your situation a little bit more tricky...so watch your words a little bit! You wrote: <QUOTE> " well, wouldn't you hate to work in a place like that - where the directors did not permit open conversation, and sacked anyone who they deemed had spoken out of turn. That attitude is pre-historic" <END QUOTE> According to English Labour Law: The respondent (the employer) has to show that the dismissal was for a reason which is capable of being fair and must relate to the employee's 1. conduct 2. capability 3. redundancy 4. statutory ban 5. or "some other substantial reason" The claimant might dispute that the real reason was one of these and may, in particular, seek to argue that the reason related to a protected right. If they were to show that the reason did relate to a statutory protected right, rather than a potentially fair reason above, the dismissal would be automatically unfair. I would consider conduct as a reason for someone to consider that you crossed the line by calling me: a cowardly shit a clear idiot a cowardly idiot a cowardly little nobody a spineless wonder a person without a back bone and real identity a crab under a rock a cowardly shit a cowardly shit the next day as well when I wake up a person with a big mouth an 11 year old (since you are too far off my real age haha) an uninformed plonker dick-head a lurker in the recess of my empty craniums a person with an empty live (and minds) a top drawer shit-head an utterly spineless person a crap-for-brains weirdo a moron a mindles feeble tittle-tattle person an arse hole moaner You made these statements as Greg Brooks, the Queen Archivist (as your nickname shows). Seen in this light, any employer or company/person that hired you can see that the conduct regarding your insult were your personal ones but were also in relation with your job! Reconsider this Greg, you have the right to defend yourself upto a certain extend. But I am still the client of your employer! Subsequently that means that the language you are using is inappropriate and out of place. You can disagree with me or agree, and even if I have insulted you, then you should be aware that the insults you made can be seen as misconduct! This could be a reason to be sacked (let's hope that Brian has a good sense of humour as well ...;-)) And if I look back at what I said about you when compared what you said about me, then seriously , who is being more rude? And should you not take into consideration that you are being paid to do your job, not to insult your clients (who pay money to your "employer" to buy their products) About us meeting, if I would still be in Holland I would have gotten on a plane to have a beer and discuss our issues face to face. Unfortunately I am in Romania (because of work and my company).But then at least drop me a line about how to contact you ... I have to give you a compliment that the last post in this thread was a good proof that you ARE able to handle decent conversation ;-) I will await your response regarding my arguments in this message Stefan |
| Jjeroen 26.05.2006 08:32 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Greg, instead of barging in and calling Queen fans "dickheads" and "shitheads" and the like, a little tactfulness goes a long way. If I flew off the handle like you have because people talked like me about that, and called all my clients shitheads and dickheads, you can be positive I would be packing my supplies up and looking for a new job that very same afternoon. The same is true in most places - no matter how "modern-thinking" any corporation is, I just can't imagine a boss saying to his or her employee, "Well, you just called our most loyal customers 'dickheads' and 'shitheads'. You get a raise and a company car!" - and I find it appalling that someone officially tied to Queen would resort to that level without taking a moment to breathe and think their thoughts through rationally. You may have been joking, but I doubt it. You're backpedaling now, trying to play it off as a "haha my humor is better than yours, too bad most of you don't get it!" type of attitude, which is what people do when they know they can't take something back. If it was a joke, then we all must have missed your subtle yet high-brow humor - who knew that calling the very fans "sad gits" who possess the knowledge of every #1 single you need for this project while imploring them to "get a life", yet this is the very information from those "sad gits" that you need for this project, was now considered humorous? Well, score one for Greg Brooks! If this is how you treat most fans who even bother to question something, no matter in what respect it may be - and I'm sure it is, judging by your highly intellectual and, ahem, humorous responses on the QOL Q&A section that has mysteriously been erased - then you, sir, need to re-evaluate yourself and realize that you are burning the very bridges that you need to cross to gather the information necessary. Keep that in mind. Now, I'd LOVE to see you respond to this without resorting to childish nicknames. I'll even tell you what singles were #1 in the US if you do. However, seeing as you can't seem to address the rational thinking people in most of these threads, then I'm not going to hold my breath.My thoughts exactly, Lester! You're always good with words. Maybe you should write a book some day! :-) |
| radio_what's_new 26.05.2006 08:55 |
Indeed ;) I was trying to tell the same but my English sucks...... |
| Jjeroen 26.05.2006 08:58 |
radio_what's_new wrote: Indeed ;) I was trying to tell the same but my English sucks......And you're just a little bit more of a faulmouth! ;-))) |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 09:01 |
jeroen wrote: My thoughts exactly, Lester! You're always good with words. Maybe you should write a book some day! :-)You just may be on to something there! ;) |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 09:04 |
Lester it was well said ... I am just waiting for GB to respond also to my message Stefan |
| Ian R 26.05.2006 09:33 |
Greg, One question - have you been big enough to apologise to YourValentine for your totally unprovoked and unwarranted attack on her a couple of years ago, on this very forum? It was that sort of behaviour that disgruntled many people around here; the majority of which are reasonable, decent and knowledge. Act with a little humility, and people will start to respect you more. Regards, Ian Regan. |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 09:54 |
By the way Greg, we did talk to eachother on the phone before (somewhere in the course of 2003) but unfortunately I don't have your number anymore... :( |
| Crazy LittleThing 26.05.2006 10:05 |
Lester Burnham wrote:Hey Lester:jeroen wrote: My thoughts exactly, Lester! You're always good with words. Maybe you should write a book some day! :-)You just may be on to something there! ;) If you do decide to put pen to paper on this wild idea, this "book" thingie that Jeroen has suggested, you can probably get some assistance from the folks on QZ. Please let me know if you need anything. Cheers! ;) |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 10:15 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote:Why thank you, Crazy LittleThing! I always knew Qzers were intelligent and helpful! I certainly don't see any "dickheads", "shitheads", or "plebs" around here. Maybe once my book is published, I'll see things differently, but I tend to keep my ego in check most of the time anyway.Lester Burnham wrote:Hey Lester: If you do decide to put pen to paper on this "book" thingie that Jeroen has suggested, you can probably get some assistance from the folks on QZ. Please let me know if you need anything. Cheers! ;)jeroen wrote: My thoughts exactly, Lester! You're always good with words. Maybe you should write a book some day! :-)You just may be on to something there! ;) ;) |
| Roy ® 26.05.2006 10:21 |
Dear Mr. Brooks, you are not so nice to us. We are an very important group. We are buying the queenstuff what's gonna be released. You must realize that you are in an great position with acces to the Queen vaults. We are expecting from an queen archivist to get nice Queen stuff above water and to release it. We are not expecting an Queen archivist who is shouting and is not very nice to us. In fact we are paying you. We are to people wo buy Queen stuff and attending concerts. Without us Queen did not have the money to pay you. I also had to laugh when I saw the request on BM.com but I give you an answer about the Nr1 singles in the Netherlands. Most of the info you could find on the internet, try google. How do you want to check the info we are giving you, how do you no it's accurate ?????? If you could check it you dont have to ask us. So go do your work and don't be rude to eachother. This is my holy opinion. Cheers Roy |
| Jjeroen 26.05.2006 10:32 |
Roy ® wrote: Dear How do you want to check the info we are giving you, how do you no it's accurate ?????? RoyWell, you might just have more then a point here then you think... if I look at some of the names on the thank-you list in the Queen Live book (yes, Greg does give credits to fans in there) I am not surprised there are errors in the book. Yes, some people are very reliable and very honest but there are also some people on the list that are known for having a WAY too wild imagination when it comes to Queen's history... |
| Jjeroen 26.05.2006 10:34 |
Oh dear... the order of the posts are mixed up again... Could cause a lot of misunderstading in threats like these... MOD!? |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 10:37 |
jeroen wrote: Oh dear... the order of the posts are mixed up again... Could cause a lot of misunderstading in threats like these... MOD!?jeroen broke the internet! So where is our bull-in-the-china-shop Mr Greg Brooks now? Guess his intent was to stir shit up and then run away, as usual. Maybe all the logical explanations and reasoning were too much for him to handle. Oh yes, and Greg, if you're going to send slings and arrows, send them to the right people - Poppy wasn't the one who said she detested you. I believe it was someone else, but she happened to quote it. |
| Nathan 26.05.2006 10:40 |
I think we all need to calm down a little here, friends. First off, let's take a look at Mr. Brooks' profession. He is THE Queen Archivist and by that I mean the only one there is. Let's consider how much material Queen will have in their archives. They made fifteen studio albums from 1973-1995, with lots of unused tracks, demos and outtakes for each. Then we come to the live recordings. Didn't someone say that Brian May once stated that all concerts from 1976 (?) onwards were recorded? That makes for an awful lot of live recordings, all of which are probably in the archives. Now we get back to Mr. Brooks. I'm no expert on archivism (perhaps you can help me Mr. Brooks) but it sounds like he is in charge of these. Imagine how much he has to sort through just to get them in some kind of order. It would be wrong for us to expect him to know everything about every last song in there. However, there isn't really much excuse for the name-calling and insulting that's being passed back and forth through this thread. And I will admit I'm wondering when the next release will be. I'm not trying to take sides, I'm just trying to see where everyone is coming from. |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 10:43 |
Do you even know what people are complaining about? It has absolutely nothing to do with the archives. |
| Nathan 26.05.2006 10:46 |
Oh I know perfectly well what people are complaining about. It's about the singles, isn't it? |
| Jjeroen 26.05.2006 10:47 |
Sir Nathan wrote: I think we all need to calm down a little here, friends. First off, let's take a look at Mr. Brooks' profession. He is THE Queen Archivist and by that I mean the only one there is. Let's consider how much material Queen will have in their archives. They made fifteen studio albums from 1973-1995, with lots of unused tracks, demos and outtakes for each. Then we come to the live recordings. Didn't someone say that Brian May once stated that all concerts from 1976 (?) onwards were recorded? That makes for an awful lot of live recordings, all of which are probably in the archives. Now we get back to Mr. Brooks. I'm no expert on archivism (perhaps you can help me Mr. Brooks) but it sounds like he is in charge of these. Imagine how much he has to sort through just to get them in some kind of order. It would be wrong for us to expect him to know everything about every last song in there. However, there isn't really much excuse for the name-calling and insulting that's being passed back and forth through this thread. And I will admit I'm wondering when the next release will be. I'm not trying to take sides, I'm just trying to see where everyone is coming from.I don't think most of the slag is about what is released and what is not. It is merely about communication. And to be honest... purely based on seeing mr Brooks' rant inhere a couple of years back, reading his Q&A's on QOL and hearing his presentations at the conventions every year, I'm sorry to say, I also have the impression that he is not the most aimable man in Queenland... |
| Nathan 26.05.2006 10:49 |
I'm sorry. I was focusing on the part of his rant where he discusses the singles. But as I have said before, there was no need for that sort of language. If the situation is going to get resolved, a peaceful solution will need to be found. |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 10:52 |
Sir Nathan wrote: Oh I know perfectly well what people are complaining about. It's about the singles, isn't it?Yes, so where does the whole archiving thing come in to play? As far as I know, the vaults have been archived, and Queen Productions are waiting to release the best of the best when the time is right. This is about the flow of information and about Greg's manner of communication - as jeroen just said above me. So what if he has a tough job? Most of us do. If he's working "14 hours a day" on these singles box sets, then certainly some of that 14 hours consists of researching? What does a 14 hour day consist of, Greg? What exactly do you do that constricts your ability to research and contact official publications / magazines about what you need to know? As for a peaceful solution, that was in Greg's hands. If he had to say anything at all, he could have come in here and logically explained himself. However, he did what he does best and came roaring in like a hurricane with the childish namecalling and absurdities. He had the power to diffuse the situation with a rational, calm explanation, and he didn't. So if you're going to spread your pacificism, spread it his way, because he needs it the most. |
| Erin 26.05.2006 10:56 |
Queen Archivist wrote: To POPPY... who wrote... You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. There are too many people in the world like you... who detest others - people they have never met in their life, but whom will form an opinion of DETESTING THEM based on nothing very much. That's an awful burden to bare. I don't detest you Poppy. I have never met you. I do not detest anyone. That is an incredibly unhealthy way to conduct your life. You are not a very nice person, are you Poppy. Have a think about why you hate so easily. And try to be more tolerant. Shame on you! GBI just thought I would point out that POPPY didn't say she detested you. It was radio_what's_new. She merely pointed out that 'radio' missed a few of the insults you were throwing out on here. <font color=Violet>Poppy wrote:radio_what's_new wrote: Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you espect? A statue?Exactly what I was about to point out, Well said. (But you forgot 'dull cretin' and 'silly sods') |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 10:58 |
I pointed that out last page! ;)
But come on, Erin. That would require comprehension skills and a basic ability to process information. I mean, do you really expect a man who spends 14 hours a day on the singles box set to read and comprehend things that us "plebs" write? Who has the time for that! We're only helping pay his salary!
I wonder if Mark Lewisohn (Beatles archivist) ever talked this way to the legions of Beatles fans...
Fireplace wrote:I know a guy who knows a guy. $50, no mess, everything in its right place. You want I should talk to him?Sir Nathan wrote: I think we all need to calm down a little here, friends.Calm down? That's a disappointment! I was just about to propose we all chip in to hire a hitman! Anybody got a Sicilian cousin(no ethnic disrespect intended)? |
| Fireplace 26.05.2006 10:59 |
Sir Nathan wrote: I think we all need to calm down a little here, friends.Calm down? That's a disappointment! I was just about to propose we all chip in to hire a hitman! Anybody got a Sicilian cousin(no ethnic disrespect intended)? |
| Jjeroen 26.05.2006 11:02 |
LESTER BURNHAM Posted: 5/26/2006 10:52:23 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sir Nathan wrote: Oh I know perfectly well what people are complaining about. It's about the singles, isn't it? Yes, so where does the whole archiving thing come in to play? As far as I know, the vaults have been archived, and Queen Productions are waiting to release the best of the best when the time is right. This is about the flow of information and about Greg's manner of communication - as jeroen just said above me. So what if he has a tough job? Most of us do. If he's working "14 hours a day" on these singles box sets, then certainly some of that 14 hours consists of researching? What does a 14 hour day consist of, Greg? What exactly do you do that constricts your ability to research and contact official publications / magazines about what you need to know? As for a peaceful solution, that was in Greg's hands. If he had to say anything at all, he could have come in here and logically explained himself. However, he did what he does best and came roaring in like a hurricane with the childish namecalling and absurdities. He had the power to diffuse the situation with a rational, calm explanation, and he didn't. So if you're going to spread your pacificism, spread it his way, because he needs it the most. ================================ Well, the vault-issue that bothers a lot of people, is probably that they are worried about it being meistered properly. For instance: a lot of collectors that spent years of their lives analysing Queen's concerts through the years, have pointed out some errors in Greg's book. But instead of correcting them, they are still in tact in the new issue. To a lot of people the big problem is 'I know more then the official archivist WITH ACCESS TO THE VAULTS does, WITHOUT having access to the vaults!' Idea is that Greg spends a lot of time in researching stuff that a lot of fans already know. (Some believe this is the main reason that we are missing out on the release of the REALY interesting material). Now, if he had been a bit nicer to people and cooperated a bit more, together they might have come to something higher. But the situation now is, that a lot of serious people that realy know AND OWN a lot of Queen-realted material keep quiet. They think twice about walking up to Greg to share their knowledge and their rare recordings... |
| Erin 26.05.2006 11:03 |
Lester Burnham wrote: I pointed that out last page! ;)Ooops, sorry about that. I was just skimming through all of this crap and noticed that Poppy was being pointed out and basically insulted for no reason. |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 11:07 |
Erin wrote:S'ok, it got lost in the post order, but it's always good to be reiterated :)Lester Burnham wrote: I pointed that out last page! ;)Ooops, sorry about that. I was just skimming through all of this crap and noticed that Poppy was being pointed out and basically insulted for no reason. |
| Fireplace 26.05.2006 11:12 |
Lester Burnham wrote:$50? Sjeesh, life sure is cheap these days!Fireplace wrote:I know a guy who knows a guy. $50, no mess, everything in its right place. You want I should talk to him?Sir Nathan wrote: I think we all need to calm down a little here, friends.Calm down? That's a disappointment! I was just about to propose we all chip in to hire a hitman! Anybody got a Sicilian cousin(no ethnic disrespect intended)? Let's split the cost, and I'll throw in a copy of "Queen Live" for good measure. |
| Serry... 26.05.2006 11:29 |
Okay, Mr Brooks, I have one question for you too: when you for the last time have seen John (you named Brian, Roger, Jim as your bosses) and how's he doing? |
| john bodega 26.05.2006 12:04 |
John's in the vault with the rest of the stuff that is... (drum roll) Property of Queen Productions. |
| Suigi 26.05.2006 12:26 |
Greg, To get back to what I feel is the most important point, why ARE you wasting 14 hours a day on a singles compilation NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BUY. We HAVE the albums. We HAVE the singles. We HAVE the bootlegs. We DON'T HAVE a Queen boxset of unreleased tunes and demos. Hmmm...perhaps there's a sales opportunity there! |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 12:44 |
Erm, hold on there Suigi... I think a few of us are planning on purchasing this product. I, for one, am really excited about a singles box set, and I think most fans here are. I may already have most of the singles, but that doesn't mean I won't buy it anyway. |
| Bohardy 26.05.2006 13:33 |
Exactly. I'm also pretty excited about this release. And once again, if Greg's spending 14 hours a day working on this singles boxset, it's because QP have decided that this is the next Queen product to be released, and want his help on the project. There's no point moaning about the non-existence of the full boxset; that's entirly out of Greg's hands now. |
| Suigi 26.05.2006 13:59 |
I know, but someone's gotta start making a big stink about it. Otherwise, we may never GET that boxset unless people start ASKING for it. |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 14:02 |
Suigi wrote: I know, but someone's gotta start making a big stink about it. Otherwise, we may never GET that boxset unless people start ASKING for it.Yes, but you're raising a big stink to someone who has no control over it. Send your stink to Queen Productions and Jim Beach. |
| Flashman 26.05.2006 14:16 |
Such a pity that the archivist of our favourite band is an absolute wanker. Perhaps the job should have gone to a much more rounded and understanding individual - me for instance. 14 hours a day, my arse! Someone's taking the piss here. I could have knocked a box set up in about 10 minutes. Admittedly, the cover would have been done in crayon and there would have been some glaring omisions. Whole years for instance, but you wouldn't have noticed with a bit of Tippex, or a photo of a naked lady. I've got 'A Human Body' B-side on vinyl, y'know. That would have been a start. |
| Erin 26.05.2006 14:18 |
Flashman wrote: Admittedly, the cover would have been done in crayon and there would have been some glaring omisions. Whole years for instance, but you wouldn't have noticed with a bit of Tippex, or a photo of a naked lady.LOL! |
| Crazy LittleThing 26.05.2006 14:42 |
Flashman wrote: I could have knocked a box set up in about 10 minutes.Surely this isn't a euphemism for anything? |
| TRS-Romania 26.05.2006 17:15 |
Dear mr Brooks, I am still waiting for your constructive response to my last post in this thread ... I know you are working 14 hours a day (less , or more), but since you have been so active lately on Queenzone, could you reflect on my comments? Stefan |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 20:51 |
Stephan, You have written some very very boring stuff here today... honestly, it really is exceptionally dull reading by any standards. And you keep on about English LABOUR law, but no one in Englan has the vaguest clue what you're on about. "LABOUR' law???? Where did you get that from? Maybe you mean English Common Law, and even if you do, it's still very tedious to waffle on about laws you clearly know only 2 percent about. You writing down stuff you clearly found on a web site somewhere, or which some joker in a pub told you, doesn't make you the best company in the world. You also say that we once spoke on the phone!!!! i have no recollection at all - not one second of it. So you must have been equally riveting and fascinating then too. Did I actually talk back to you on that occasion? Maybe I was asleep. Do you think you could try and write something amusing or witty or constructive, or basically anything at all that we can read and have a laugh at? I got only one paragraph into your diatribe earlier on but genuinely lost the will to live, so just scanned the rest of it as quickly as I could. That's not a good omen for someone who spends as much time waffling on, on QZ as you do. You need to keep peoples' interest Steph old man, not bore them into coma. do you follow? TRS... does that stand for TEDIOUS REPETITIVE STEPHAN, or something else with TEDIOUS at the start? I see now the need for your nickname. Come on Stephan, be interesting. Write something TO me or ABOUT me, professional or personal, that is so fresh and original and sparkling with wit and sharpness, that all the QZ people congratulate you on such a brilliant thread... now that WOULD be a first for you, right? And no emailing your mates to ask them to respond in glowing terms, either... that'd be cheating. Your words so far have been exceptionally uninteresting, now come on and startle and amuse us. Do you have any charisma at all in you, desperate to escape? And no more English LABOUR law please, coz like your pin-sharp personality, it does not exist. ALSO... the Property Of Queen Productions things, which at least a dozen of you keep re-quoting, was funny the first few times, but any chance of something else now? something fresh and funny. ARE YOU LOT ALL SHARING the same book of 'jokes' or something? Be original. come on.... please say something new and funny and out of your own creative minds - not borrowed words. That isn't much to ask. Just think for yourselves... THOSE OF YOU THAT JUST COPY OTHERS, I MEAN... before you ALL ge arsey. The boring copy-cats know who they are. You can do it! Think ORIGINALITY. Think FUNNY. Think FRESH. Can you do that TRS? |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 21:01 |
FLASHMAN... Same goes for you too. You have all the wit and originality of Paul Daniels' Magic Show. Can't you think of something funny or creative to do or say either? you poor sod! What are you doing spending so much time on QZ for anyway? Your words are LITTERED all over QZ... clearly representing MANY MANY hours of you sitting there writing all your little things - collectively it must run to MONTHS of your life!!! Have you considered doing something more constructive than having a pop at me? There are MILLIONS of things better to occupy yourself with... really... MILLIONS. How dull must that be! I'm guessing there isn't much going on in FlashmanWorld, then. Don't despair. It can all change quickly. I hope it does for you too. If you had spent the time you spend writing on QZ doing something like.... er... writing a book or researching some rare aspect of Queen, or tracking down rare lost Queen gems, by now you'd be able to offer something useful... maybe. think about that. Do you have many friends Flasher Man? You have only one, don't you???? Come on, be honest. All those hours and hours of writing. You're not the most popular chap in town are you? I should take the mick really. You poor thing! |
| dsp128 26.05.2006 21:06 |
Well I just joined here today 'Greg' (if that's you) and Queen Arc. are the same person (I'm unsure as Greg originally posts as GB - which is usual for him for many years publically and privatetly, but as he signs GB maybe I'm wrong), but the writing style shares few similarities. Maybe now you've calmed down or had a beer/wank (deletes as appropriate), but the thing is, regardless who you are, the post purporting to come from Greg and signed GB is an dreadful representation as a Queen related person, and I've had my share of being a total git on the net over the years. Having read the whole 5 boring pages of it so far, it seems that there is some history between JSS and GB that isn't public, and maybe some misunderstanding. It seems neither believes the other for what ever reason and both seem to think they are superior, but JSS seems to have the upper hand in politeness, reasoning and genuine honesty, and I for one would feel better if he were the Queen Arc. than Greg even though I know GB to be a huge fan and I've even met him at the Convention (1996 I think), and know he has his heart in the right place as far as archiving, he just doesn't seem to have the ability to control his emotions. It must be a stressful job to do. 14 hours a day working for Queen - it sounds like a dream job, but I bet it isn't and I hope it's just the stress and the real GB will eventually retired to Ibiza as he's always wanted too. Will the Real Slim Greg Brooks Please Stand Up. PS. Is there a website where we can see a list of John S.Stuarts rarities - I'm interested in what he's got and Queen haven't. |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 21:13 |
Okay, Mr Brooks, I have one question for you too: when you for the last time have seen John (you named Brian, Roger, Jim as your bosses) and how's he doing? ................................................... You are wrong. I didn't name ANYONE as my boss at all. I only mentioned those people as being open minded. I am SELF EMPLOYED. How many more times??? This means I am MY OWN BOSS. Do you understand the concept of SELF employment? You work for yourself. YOU are YOUR OWN BOSS. Do you comprehend this now? Please say you do. It really is very simple - like.... no, let's not go there! We did 'SIMPLE' last night. I have 'clients' whom I do work for. Queen is one of them. This really is not difficult to get your head around once you start doing your own thinking and ignore the sheep who all follow one another on QZ, saying, "THEY SHOULD SACK HIM." I could sack myself. I might do that one day, and give myself an ENORMOUS reduncy package because i obviously deserve it, don't I Serry. SELF employment. Got it now? |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 21:15 |
Serry... I haven't seen John. And I don't know what he is up to. I genuinely don't. GB |
| Bohardy 26.05.2006 21:18 |
I think, in my late night semi-drunken haze, that I've seen the light. Greg is no more than a banterist, much like Dudley Fufkin or (to a much lesser extent) Fatty. I can actually see the intended humour in the posts now, rather than the unwarranted attacks on people he has no understanding of or basis upon which to judge them. I'm 'getting' your humour now Greg (or am I just drunk?). But I'm not getting your insistence that unless anybody here replies in a witty and novel fashion, you're gonna slip into a coma because your nerve-receptors haven't been excited enough. What's wrong with replying in a measured, serious and thought-out tone, to what is a fairly (in this 'world') serious issue? What's wrong with Stephan's responses to your demands of him? How is he supposed to meet you face-to-face without prior quasi-anonymous contact and arrangement, either through here, email, or the telephonic medium? |
| Queen Archivist 26.05.2006 21:27 |
Roy ® wrote: some people are very reliable and very honest but there are also some people on the list that are known for having a WAY too wild imagination when it comes to Queen's history... ______________________________________________________________ TO ROY.... Don't worry. I am well aware that there are MANY great people out there - real Queen experts and very honest people with much integrity and respect for others. I honestly DO NOT judge everyone by the tiny minority of morons i encounter on QZ sometimes. Most people on QZ are ok and good people - albeit they are a bit touchy and over sensitive (I can talk!!!!), and they don't like taking back what they dish out. Most people are fine, and that's why I have now had over 170 POSITIVE & USEFUL emails about Queen worldwide No 1's, and only NEGATIVE CRAP on this site from a few dull buggers that always whinge with things like... "WHY DON'T QUEEN EVER ASK US THE 'REAL FANS' ADVICE, ON PRODUCTS, SO THAT IT COULD ALL BE BETTER?" "THEY NEVER ASK US... AND WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT EXPECT WILL BUY THIS PRODUCT." But when i DO ask them, ask advice to better the Queen Singles box, they whinge at that too and call me lazy. They are complete wasters. That is the kind of mentality you find too often in the odd QZ pleb. I offer the chance to chip in ideas and useful data for the BEST POSSIBLE Queen product, and they squander it. There are great people emailing me. Good on them. Not everyone is a whinging tedious pain in the hind quarters. GB |
| rocks. 26.05.2006 22:33 |
Greg Brooks, if this is you, I said this in the other thread, but you seem not to have read it, but anyhoo, why are you wasting your time on these erm...what was that word you used..god, there were so many, cant remember any of them now, but wasting time on the apparent arse's that you think some of us are, and just get off? Im not telling you to, do whatever you want, I personally dont mind you here, but you seem to be causing yourself unnecesary stress, grief, whatever you want to call it. |
| dsp128 26.05.2006 22:55 |
Maybe the admin should check his IP to confirm if it is him or an imposter. Surely someone working "14 hours a day", has no time to post here like this ? |
| rocks. 26.05.2006 22:58 |
dsp128 wrote: Maybe the admin should check his IP to confirm if it is him or an imposter. Surely someone working "14 hours a day", has no time to post here like this ?thats what I thought... |
| Lester Burnham 26.05.2006 23:20 |
edit: actually, it's not worth it. |
| john bodega 27.05.2006 00:06 |
Maybe it's really John Deacon. Whatever, I'm sure GB is human like most of us (teehee) but he's not being terribly professional. I wouldn't let this guy within a mile of my old junk, let alone anything I ever recorded. |
| Serry... 27.05.2006 00:24 |
Queen Archivist wrote: Serry... I haven't seen John. And I don't know what he is up to. I genuinely don't. GBThank you Mr Brooks! About the rest what you wrote by answering on my question: English is not my native language and the best word from own dictionary to describe Brian, Roger and Jim towards you was "the bosses", I'm sorry if I choose the wrong one. dsp128 wrote: Well I just joined here today 'Greg' (if that's you) and Queen Arc. are the same person (I'm unsure as Greg originally posts as GB - which is usual for him for many years publically and privatetly, but as he signs GB maybe I'm wrong), but the writing style shares few similarities.He's already been here under 'GB', so he can't use this user name if he doesn't remember password. This is why I'm "Serry..." not "Serry" - I forgot password for "Serry" and can't use this nickname. Though a couple of months ago I found my old password :) |
| S@turn 27.05.2006 02:18 |
it is a bit confusing, two threads with the same content, but we manage and yes Stefan I read both ones, so I shall repeat shortly here what I wrote at the other side First of all, it is like ever amazing (and not in a nice way) to see all kind of people that have nothing else to do then try to boost their own -sick- ego in commenting and attacking people in person. If it is realy you Greg, I should think that you should treat possible clients (what Stefan said so correct) with a bit more respect. But you choose to lower yourself to show us some attacks as well. I must say, it is easy to do so, but it is not helping the discussion or your reputation. Ignore the people who are just NOT funny and who here dare to say things that they never should dare to say in the face I should very much like to find out what the results will be of your discussion with Stefan-TRS The points of view are clear, if you skip the fuzz, it is time for a constructive follow up of this And in that case I advise all QZ ers to do what I did not, and that is to keep the discussion pure so that the point of the subject get an answer there are enough subjects where you can show how funny and original you are, and where you even can say nasty words about the celebrities that we all adore, else we should spend our time with doing other things |
| Flashman 27.05.2006 04:52 |
Queen Archivist wrote: FLASHMAN... Your words are LITTERED all over QZ... clearly representing MANY MANY hours of you sitting there writing all your little things - collectively it must run to MONTHS of your life!!!Here, there's no need for all that - I've only made about 10 posts this year. Still, that's probably more posts than you've had shags in your life, you illiterate simpleton. |
| Ready_Coddie 27.05.2006 05:15 |
GB is self employed? cool... Everyone, we must start downloading all the DVDs and albums from torrents and such, save the money and send it to Brian... He could hire a literate archivist then for a change |
| Serry... 27.05.2006 06:57 |
Mr Brooks, one very simple question: can you talk about your job in Queen Archive and about that Archive itself or not? (Maybe it's confidential information, who knows...) If yes - is it possible for us - Queen fans - to ask the questions about what's there and what's not? No "please recommend them to release this or that" requests, just short and simple questions. There is a lot of myths and legends about Queen Archive, so instead of bitching with some QZers - you confirm or destroy those myths and make for us more clear what you can and what can not. |
| Pim Derks 27.05.2006 07:02 |
I doubt Greg is allowed to say much more than he has said so far at the various conventions. I think he once mentioned that QP want to keep certain things a surprise. I have to say it would be kind of boring when we (finally) get the boxes but we already know everything there is on it. Imagine opening the box, scanning the tracklist and suddenly coming along Stone Cold Crazy (Alternate Piano Version, RT Vocals) or something :D |
| Serry... 27.05.2006 07:10 |
Yes, I agree, Pim. But I'm more talking about general things: "yes we have master tapes/complete recordings of all recording sessions for all studio albums, except ADATR (for instance), we have 354 complete live recordings in soundboard quality, yes we have complete professional video of Knebworth etc., There Must Be More Too Life Than This remixed by JD is a myth etc."... Maybe we're expecting too much from that Archive... Or vice versa :) |
| Jjeroen 27.05.2006 07:49 |
Serry... wrote: Yes, I agree, Pim. But I'm more talking about general things: "yes we have master tapes/complete recordings of all recording sessions for all studio albums, except ADATR (for instance), we have 354 complete live recordings in soundboard quality, yes we have complete professional video of Knebworth etc., There Must Be More Too Life Than This remixed by JD is a myth etc."... Maybe we're expecting too much from that Archive... Or vice versa :)Well, he basically does answer those kind of questions! And he has said over and over again that we expect too much about what is in the archives both when it comes to live- and studiorecordings. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 27.05.2006 09:31 |
Queen Archivist wrote: To POPPY... who wrote... You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. There are too many people in the world like you... who detest others - people they have never met in their life, but whom will form an opinion of DETESTING THEM based on nothing very much. That's an awful burden to bare. I don't detest you Poppy. I have never met you. I do not detest anyone. That is an incredibly unhealthy way to conduct your life. You are not a very nice person, are you Poppy. Have a think about why you hate so easily. And try to be more tolerant. Shame on you! GBAs Lester and Erin pointed out, I didn't say that, I just quoted it. Actually Mr. Brooks, maybe you should apologise to me, because you did say that I'm 'not a very nice person' and you know, that hurt. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 27.05.2006 10:44 |
<font color=Violet>Poppy wrote:She only picks on people 3 times her age every few weeks. You were just unlucky this time.Queen Archivist wrote: To POPPY... who wrote... You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. There are too many people in the world like you... who detest others - people they have never met in their life, but whom will form an opinion of DETESTING THEM based on nothing very much. That's an awful burden to bare. I don't detest you Poppy. I have never met you. I do not detest anyone. That is an incredibly unhealthy way to conduct your life. You are not a very nice person, are you Poppy. Have a think about why you hate so easily. And try to be more tolerant. Shame on you! GBAs Lester and Erin pointed out, I didn't say that, I just quoted it. Actually Mr. Brooks, maybe you should apologise to me, because you did say that I'm 'not a very nice person' and you know, that hurt. |
| Nathan 27.05.2006 10:56 |
Poppy is in fact a really nice person. |
| Queen Archivist 27.05.2006 11:18 |
To Poppy... In YOUR 'thing', I read, from you... ............................................................. Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you espect? A statue? ..................................................... Now you tell me that those words came from elsewhere, but YOU quoted them Poppy. YOU used them in YOUR thread. That means that you agreed with the sentiment. Otherwise why would you have quoted it???? I don't owe you an apology. YOU quoted that "I detest you" thing, and now you are hurt that I came back at you over it. You can't have it both ways. YOU quoted it at me, so you have to live with it. "I detest you" is a spiteful and stupid thing to write or quote to me or anyone. This is just a music related site after all. Then you say that "it hurt" what i wrote to you. You amaze me. I don't set out to hurt anyone, i hate that word and the whole concept of one person hating/detesting another... especially when you have never met me - or if you have you do not know anything about me. YOU quoted it. And even quoting such a thing, in my opinion, doesn't make you a very nice or sensitive person, on the face of it, does it? Go on, pick fault with that, instead of apologising. GB |
| Queen Archivist 27.05.2006 11:27 |
FLASHMAN... Touchy touchy! Ooooh! I struck a nerve with that, didn't I. People like you always lash out with things about "shagging", or the lack of it, when they cannot think of something clever, witty or cutting to say. You're another one who dishes it out but cannot take it back without getting all hot under the collar. Calm down you silly goose. You know what they say about people who go on about OTHER people and sex, don't you???? and you mentioned it completely and totally out of context. Are you one of those bedsit Billy No-Mates, Flashman? I'll send you something nice in the post. OK. GB |
| That guy who digs energy domes 27.05.2006 11:33 |
Queen Archivist wrote: To Poppy... In YOUR 'thing', I read, from you... ............................................................. Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you espect? A statue? ..................................................... Now you tell me that those words came from elsewhere, but YOU quoted them Poppy. YOU used them in YOUR thread. That means that you agreed with the sentiment. Otherwise why would you have quoted it???? I don't owe you an apology. YOU quoted that "I detest you" thing, and now you are hurt that I came back at you over it. You can't have it both ways. YOU quoted it at me, so you have to live with it. "I detest you" is a spiteful and stupid thing to write or quote to me or anyone. This is just a music related site after all. Then you say that "it hurt" what i wrote to you. You amaze me. I don't set out to hurt anyone, i hate that word and the whole concept of one person hating/detesting another... especially when you have never met me - or if you have you do not know anything about me. YOU quoted it. And even quoting such a thing, in my opinion, doesn't make you a very nice or sensitive person, on the face of it, does it? Go on, pick fault with that, instead of apologising. GBSeriously dude, she's 17. Grow the fuck up |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 27.05.2006 11:42 |
Queen Archivist wrote: To Poppy... In YOUR 'thing', I read, from you... ............................................................. Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you espect? A statue? ..................................................... Now you tell me that those words came from elsewhere, but YOU quoted them Poppy. YOU used them in YOUR thread. That means that you agreed with the sentiment. Otherwise why would you have quoted it???? I don't owe you an apology. YOU quoted that "I detest you" thing, and now you are hurt that I came back at you over it. You can't have it both ways. YOU quoted it at me, so you have to live with it. "I detest you" is a spiteful and stupid thing to write or quote to me or anyone. This is just a music related site after all. Then you say that "it hurt" what i wrote to you. You amaze me. I don't set out to hurt anyone, i hate that word and the whole concept of one person hating/detesting another... especially when you have never met me - or if you have you do not know anything about me. YOU quoted it. And even quoting such a thing, in my opinion, doesn't make you a very nice or sensitive person, on the face of it, does it? Go on, pick fault with that, instead of apologising. GBOkay, this message board thing is obviously new to you. This is what I said - Exactly what I was about to point out, Well said. (But you forgot 'dull cretin' and 'silly sods')With reference to this - radio_what's_new wrote: Dear Mr Brooks, I wonder what mr. Brian May, who is known for his kind way of communicating to his fans, and who pays your salary, should think of you...You are calling people who dare to have an opinion: -Plonkers -pleb -dick-heads -Simple people -shit head -weirdos -morons You should be ashamed of yourself...I detest you. Grow up, and learn to receive feedback. What did you espect? A statue?Now, maybe I should have edited the 'detest' bit because I don't detest you, although I'm starting to dislike you. I was simply agreeing with this persons first point. Clear enough for you? |
| john bodega 27.05.2006 12:44 |
Is it the industry standard to start 3 different threads to tell the fans that they suck? |
| rocks. 27.05.2006 13:09 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Is it the industry standard to start 3 different threads to tell the fans that they suck?wondering that myself...and he's calling us unprofessional and unconstructive. Well, to be fair, he did only start two, if that is Greg Brooks, who seems to be ignoring all the speculation that its him... Whatever, I dont care. Carry on, all you plebs :P |
| aaaaaaaaaaa 27.05.2006 13:46 |
lol it really has been fun reading this thread...i still can't believe thats the real GB. no wonder we haven't seen anything new and creative released from queen in ages...this dude is a professional self-employed(yeah right, if it wasn't for queen you'd be sucking **** in some pub)idiot! |
| deleted user 27.05.2006 14:19 |
jeroen wrote:So I shouldn't have mentioned Urk '83 right?Roy ® wrote: Dear How do you want to check the info we are giving you, how do you no it's accurate ?????? RoyYes, some people are very reliable and very honest but there are also some people on the list that are known for having a WAY too wild imagination when it comes to Queen's history... |
| Jjeroen 27.05.2006 14:24 |
You didn't make the list, dude... I'm sorry, man... ;-) |
| deleted user 27.05.2006 14:30 |
Well indeed Queen releases aren't great and we haven't got a lot of them. I also think that Mr. Brooks insults aren't the best tactical move (and yes I understand this place get's you on the nerves (most of us have an IQ equal to that of a steak, but in the store I work I always have to be nice towards the customer no-matter wether their insulting me or spitting me in my face). But I think we can rather offer him our help, explain our plans about good releases, than insulting. And I hope he will take our opinions serious, so together we can make beautiful Queen DVD's. I am offering my help (I believe I also know some number one's): drsdaja@msn.com |
| john bodega 27.05.2006 14:32 |
Oh. 2 threads, the 3rd being TRS'. Maybe I owe GB an apology! I'll think about it as soon as he uploads Face it Alone. |
| John S Stuart 27.05.2006 19:26 |
Three days of biting my tongue - and I am still really sad to read this. I thought that one of the things QZ did really well was to pool our resourses, and push the Queen envelope forwards. Some of the more serious discussions in here, have been among the most informative in the Queen WORLD, and I have always thought that this was the place I came to 'learn'. Infact, this site has been MORE informative and accurate than the 'official' sources. This is because we CAN speak our minds - without censorship, or breaching Draconian vows of Masonic proportions. It is a pity that such entrenched views have been drawn up on both sides. I personally believe, for what it's worth, that by joining forces, both the official and 'unofficial' apostles - could between them, create the most magnificent Queen Bible - ever. However, as this will always be a one-way street, I guess that divisions are no more than to be expected. Therefore, to address the balance Greg, I offer you a personal challenge. No tricks, no cons, and nothing up my sleeve. In good faith, why don't you begin a new thread? A serious question and answer session - wherein you answer some REAL questions - honestly seriously. This is not meant as a pissing contest - more of a juvenille 'you show me yours - and I'll show you mine'. You can not seriously expect the good faith and support from such a tight-knit community, without flashing a little bit before-hand, do you? |
| Under Pressure 27.05.2006 21:15 |
WhatMustHeThink wrote:Carry on, all you plebs :PWhy do I get the feeling that's going to catch on? |
| M a t i a s M a y 27.05.2006 23:23 |
Greg, no matter how hard you try I WON'T let you suck my cock sorry, pal it's not gonna happen |
| The Real Wizard 28.05.2006 03:46 |
Flashman wrote: Admittedly, the cover would have been done in crayon and there would have been some glaring omisions. Whole years for instance, but you wouldn't have noticed with a bit of Tippex, or a photo of a naked lady. Zebonka12 wrote: Maybe it's really John Deacon. Flashman wrote: Here, there's no need for all that - I've only made about 10 posts this year. Still, that's probably more posts than you've had shags in your life, you illiterate simpleton.lol! Three brilliant posts, all on the same page. |
| john bodega 28.05.2006 06:58 |
HAHA I forgot I wrote that. |
| rocks. 28.05.2006 09:17 |
Under Pressure wrote:WhatMustHeThink wrote:Because Im brilliant :PCarry on, all you plebs :PWhy do I get the feeling that's going to catch on? |
| cmsdrums 28.05.2006 18:47 |
I'm just amazed that, if as GB says he wants to get as much info from all sources as he can, that he didn't post his request for help on this forum, as well as on bm.com - that seems a bit bloody stupid doesn't it? e.g. - If you wanted to find out something about KISS, you wouldn't solely ask the webmaster of Ace Freheley's website to post a request for info, but you'd put your request on all (or at the least the premier) fan/collector sites, wouldn't you? This, in the case of Queen, is QZ, so why not post your message here as prominently as possible, or if you don't want help from anyone at all on QZ just because of past personal battles with a small number of members, then why not just use the fantastic sources you already have that supposedly make everyone on QZ seems stupid? Common sense??? |
| Daburcor? 28.05.2006 20:43 |
I may have missed something, but, why do so many people here have such a problem with Greg Brooks? I've been wondering that for some time... |
| Saint Jiub 28.05.2006 20:52 |
Dan - Zeni posted these links in another topic about Greg's prior history at QZ. link link link link link link |
| Daburcor? 28.05.2006 21:04 |
Ah, I see why I didn't know. I never read posts that are that long. It's too tedious. Either way, it all seems petty to me... I mean, aren't we better than this? |
| Saint Jiub 28.05.2006 21:35 |
There were plenty of Queenzoners who tried to act as peacemakers, but GB was more interested in the mudwrestling. He ignored JSS's olive branch. Is Queenzone better than this? Not really. GB has attacked many QZ's over the last two years, I do not think completely ignoring GB's is the answer either. I would not be too concerned about GB, as he thoroughly enjoyed winding things up here, and he is probably still enjoying reading QZ and admiring the havoc he perpetrated. |
| Mr Faron Hyte 28.05.2006 23:30 |
His lack of professionalism would be breathtaking but for the quality of his published work, which tends decidely toward the amateurish, as does his behavior. So in that regard, I suppose it all makes sense. |
| CAB STOKER GROUSING 29.05.2006 12:40 |
Queen Archivist wrote: I'm looking into precisely who Produced each song, rather than just generically who produced each LP.Will you give yourself a co-production credit for every song this time aswell like you did for the freddie mercury boxset? |
| CAB STOKER GROUSING 29.05.2006 12:51 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: There were plenty of Queenzoners who tried to act as peacemakers, but GB was more interested in the mudwrestling.Does this surprise you? Reminds me of his "Q+A" section on QOL, where he avoided every single decent question and CHOSE to answer dumb questions with sarcastic replies. He seems to think he is above critism aswell ("how sare you put me down, what have YOU done towards a Queen release!") - which is a bit like saying someone who has never been in a band can't say a certain drummer or guitarist is crap. |
| dsp128 29.05.2006 13:53 |
I see the Chad's Hanging again. |