mayniac316 21.05.2006 16:41 |
For those of you who don't live in the United States and have traveled here before, I was just wondering what your opinion was of the States? Any negative opionions won't offend me. I'm just curious... |
deleted user 21.05.2006 17:42 |
Ive never been to the US but it doesnt appeal to me much in all fairness.Id rather go to somewhere like Italy or France.I dont know why exactly.But if I do travel there I hope my opinion changes |
M a t i a s M a y 21.05.2006 21:13 |
Well I don't like it it's not against the people but against the goverment. I wish they all get cancer and die slowly, right in the way they deserve. CAPO E Best wishes * |
Sherwood Forest 21.05.2006 21:18 |
oh lord but seriously this topic isnt going to be very forgiving |
its_a_hard_life 26994 21.05.2006 21:41 |
I love London. :-) |
Lisser 21.05.2006 22:49 |
MatiasMay wrote: Well I don't like it it's not against the people but against the goverment. I wish they all get cancer and die slowly, right in the way they deserve. CAPO E Best wishes *Are you insane? Maybe it's just a language barrier, but you don't make any sense. |
Mr.Jingles 21.05.2006 23:02 |
I'm caught in the middle of two nations with bad stereotypes... It pisses me off when people think all Americans are fat, ignorant, hypocrites and right-wing nuts. ...and it also pisses me when people think that all Colombians are drug dealers, dishonest, and criminals. I say shut the fuck up and learn to judge people without generalizing based on what's spread through the media or word of mouth of those who have never been to a country they are daring to criticize. |
M a t i a s M a y 21.05.2006 23:45 |
Lisser wrote:DO YA WANT A PIECE OF ME!?!?MatiasMay wrote: Well I don't like it it's not against the people but against the goverment. I wish they all get cancer and die slowly, right in the way they deserve. CAPO E Best wishes *Are you insane? Maybe it's just a language barrier, but you don't make any sense. |
Lisser 21.05.2006 23:48 |
I work with a lady from Colombia Dan and she is freaking awesome!! She and I have become really good friends. She reminds me of Charo(sp?). She is teeny tiny, big boobs, dresses like a model, wears 5 inch high heels!! When she sees me each day she runs up to me and says, "ayeeee, hola senorita!" and hugs me. She always tells me she likes my outfits but it's in spanish. She's been here for about ten years. She tells me she doesn't understand why people are so rude here. I asked her what she meant and I wanted to know who was being rude to her. She said just people in general here aren't as nice as they are in Colombia. I think she is right, at least where I live. No one looks you in the eye, no one says hi when passing in the street. I dunno, I just get upset when I see her frustrated. She's such a cool person. I love to hear her talk!!! |
Mr.Jingles 21.05.2006 23:59 |
LOL I know what you mean Lisser. By personal experience I've seen that while in Colombia you even talk to the kid in your classroom that you hate the most, in the US you don't say a single word to the majority of your classmates. Sometimes you spend a whole semester not speaking a word to absolutely anyone in class. Also in Colombia (as well as in many Latin American countries) guys say "hi" female friends with a peck on the cheek. In America most girls would consider that as if you're actually hitting on them, and one small step from making out. |
Munchsack 22.05.2006 05:28 |
I have never been to the U.S., but I would like to go some day and see a lot of the big sites and so on. Although I really hate the government, too, but I hate the government here as well. Blair and Bush are messing up the world. I also hate how the settlers came in and stole the land from the Natives and killed them, basically. Obviously the people who live there now did not do that, but their ancestors did. So every time you call yourself an American, remember you are living on stolen land. But the thing I hate most about America is the way you ruined our language. Again, this is not the fault of modern America, it was the people who were there before you. I personally am not happy about the Scots speaking English, but at least we speak it properly. Sorry if the above rant looks as though I am having a go at America, I'm not. It is just the original settlers I have a problem with. Oh, and also the way Hollywood glorifies and changes everything to make it look better, like Custer's Last Stand, and Braveheart. I seem to recall there was a bridge at the Batlle of Stirling Bridge. Now that is a modern American problem. |
Munchsack 22.05.2006 05:29 |
But I'm sure it's a nice country. |
Jjeroen 22.05.2006 07:41 |
Land of the free - home of the weird... |
willem-jan 8923 22.05.2006 07:56 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I'm caught in the middle of two nations with bad stereotypes... It pisses me off when people think all Americans are fat, ignorant, hypocrites and right-wing nuts. ...and it also pisses me when people think that all Colombians are drug dealers, dishonest, and criminals. I say shut the fuck up and learn to judge people without generalizing based on what's spread through the media or word of mouth of those who have never been to a country they are daring to criticize.So basically you are a dishonest, fat, hypocrite right-wing drug dealer? ;) Actually I've never been there, so I can't judge the people. The ones I've met over here in Europe were all nice, so I suppose most of the people in the US will be as well. I just get the impression (from television/press/colleagues that went there) that the people in the US overestimate themselves. Somehow they call themselves free, but I think the political correctness is forcing people to act in a way that is far from free. But I'll be there in September, so I can judge myself. |
AspiringPhilosophe 22.05.2006 08:12 |
Munchsack <h6>The Paranoid QueenZoner wrote: I have never been to the U.S., but I would like to go some day and see a lot of the big sites and so on. Although I really hate the government, too, but I hate the government here as well. Blair and Bush are messing up the world. I also hate how the settlers came in and stole the land from the Natives and killed them, basically. Obviously the people who live there now did not do that, but their ancestors did. So every time you call yourself an American, remember you are living on stolen land. But the thing I hate most about America is the way you ruined our language. Again, this is not the fault of modern America, it was the people who were there before you. I personally am not happy about the Scots speaking English, but at least we speak it properly. Sorry if the above rant looks as though I am having a go at America, I'm not. It is just the original settlers I have a problem with. Oh, and also the way Hollywood glorifies and changes everything to make it look better, like Custer's Last Stand, and Braveheart. I seem to recall there was a bridge at the Batlle of Stirling Bridge. Now that is a modern American problem.I totally get what you mean. When I was in France (studying Franco-US relations at the height of the tensions), I felt like I constantly had to defend America, since I am an American. But to be honest I don't think America is all that great. I mean, it's not the worst, but it's not the best either. I think that's why a lot of people don't go abroad from America (only 1 in 4 people have passports). Granted some a just lazy, but others just don't want to spend all their time defending their country. I hope I don't have to do that when I get to Glasgow, I really don't want to do that. And if anyone from outside America reads this, remember one thing for me....PLEASE DON'T JUDGE US BASED ON HOLLYWOOD!! Hollywood is about as honest a picture of American culture as Braveheart was historically accurate about William Wallace (don't even get me started....great movie, historically crap). "Reality" TV? Same thing. And actually, Munchsack, you've hit on the reason why I refuse to teach history in K-12 schools in America. The whole slaughtering the Natives thing is never brought up until high school, and even then it's so sugar coated that it's not worth teaching anymore. I refuse to sugarcoat history. It's not pretty and it shouldn't be taught that way. But we can't change the past, either. Trust me, I wish we could (even though I'm only 3rd generation, my great grandfather was actully Welsh and came here after WWI). We have a tribe right here in town, and they get along great with the non-natives, even letting my university use their name as the name for the sports teams, so long as there isn't a racist logo to go with it (there isn't). All in all, great place to visit, but I really like Europe better. |
Munchsack 22.05.2006 08:38 |
I'm glad you agree with me and I understand exactly what you mean about defending your country. Whenever I go to other countries (England, especially) I constantly feel I have to defend Scotland, but there are things I can't defend, like the shit diet and the "24-hour drinking is compulsory" attitude in parts of Scotland (esp Glasgow). But Scotland has a very proud history and I am proud to be Scottish. When you come to Scotland, there are some nice parts of Glasgow as well as nasty ones. Stay away from the Gorbals and Ibrox and you should be fine. Also, you should visit Edinburgh. It is really nice and there are some great things to see and do there. |
Slap the P 22.05.2006 08:49 |
Well, I just came back from a short visit to outside Portland, Oregon. First of all I'd have to say it's a big difference between New York (the only city I've visited in US before) and the small village of Wilsonville outside Portland. So I guess you would get a different view depending on where you travel in that huge country. But the thing that strikes a visitor from almost any European country would be how BIG everything is. And the place where I went looked a lot like Springfield (the Simpson's). Cars and buildings, sidewalks and parkinglots are much bigger than what is necessary. It seems to be a very rich part of US with a lot of expandation. Everything is kept very nice and clean. In some ways I guess that Portland region reminds me of the northern part of Sweden. I would love to travel more through US and see more. So much of the music, books and movies I like describe places and events there. Walking through New York was like walking through my old hometown. Politicaly... I talked to a man who said, with tears in his eyes, he believes USA is heading for a civil war... Well, as a visitor you get reminded of the hard times right away as you try entering the country. I would never make the mistake of judging a people by it's government. I don't like Bush, and I know half of all americans (if not more) agree with me on that. Even if you don't agree there's still a chance we agree on other things so always try to listen before you shout. PEACE |
flash! 28068 22.05.2006 13:30 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: I love London. :-)Me too! :D |
deleted user 22.05.2006 16:46 |
I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!! |
Carol! the Musical 22.05.2006 17:03 |
<font color=scarlet>EmpressOfTheUniverse wrote: I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!!I know!! Once, my teacher went to the US, and she told people she was Brazilian. This one guy actually asked if people walked around naked and lived in forests. He was serious, too. Plus they were showing everyone how to fold an American flag. They asked her, "How do you fold YOUR flag?" "We don't fold our flag, actually." She said they just stared at her as if her country was uncivilized. I hate prejudice like that. :-( |
Mr.Jingles 22.05.2006 17:31 |
ChinesedogTorture wrote:Why doesn't that surprise me when even the President of the United States has no clue that there's black people in Brazil, too.<font color=scarlet>EmpressOfTheUniverse wrote: I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!!I know!! Once, my teacher went to the US, and she told people she was Brazilian. This one guy actually asked if people walked around naked and lived in forests. He was serious, too. Plus they were showing everyone how to fold an American flag. They asked her, "How do you fold YOUR flag?" "We don't fold our flag, actually." She said they just stared at her as if her country was uncivilized. I hate prejudice like that. :-( |
Carol! the Musical 22.05.2006 17:46 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Bush's stupidity has prooven us it has no bounds.ChinesedogTorture wrote:Why doesn't that surprise me when even the President of the United States has no clue that there's black people in Brazil, too.<font color=scarlet>EmpressOfTheUniverse wrote: I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!!I know!! Once, my teacher went to the US, and she told people she was Brazilian. This one guy actually asked if people walked around naked and lived in forests. He was serious, too. Plus they were showing everyone how to fold an American flag. They asked her, "How do you fold YOUR flag?" "We don't fold our flag, actually." She said they just stared at her as if her country was uncivilized. I hate prejudice like that. :-( |
Lisser 22.05.2006 18:03 |
MatiasMay wrote:Yes, I believe I do want a piece of you.Lisser wrote:DO YA WANT A PIECE OF ME!?!?MatiasMay wrote: Well I don't like it it's not against the people but against the goverment. I wish they all get cancer and die slowly, right in the way they deserve. CAPO E Best wishes *Are you insane? Maybe it's just a language barrier, but you don't make any sense. |
Bohardy 22.05.2006 19:01 |
I spent three months travelling from L.A. to New York in a camper-van. Those 3 months were quite probably the best 3 months of my life. This was due to a few factors, namely: - The variety of magnificent country and landscape that I saw - The fact that I was on holiday for 3 months - The fact that 95% of the (American) people that I met were incredibly kind, generous, hospitable and friendly. Before I went, I (along with my travelling companion) had a kind-of love/hate relationship with America. Being a European, on some level you're indoctrinated into finding the brashness and domineeringness of Americans to be loathsome, whilst at the same time, you can't help but be compelled by the country and people that effectively lead and dominate the planet. What happened during those 3 brilllant months in the States was that I and my mate gained a new-found respect for America, and more specifically Americans, that can only be properly achieved by spending time in the country itself. The country is truly amazing. The people (that we met in 20+ states) were overwhelmingly pleasant. And the European perspective on the country and its people is undoubdtedly unfair. As much as I (on some level) wanted to believed the stereotypes I had grown up with, the fact that I spent a quarter of a year travelling through nearly half the country and I met only nice, non-obese people, has to mean something. Being an American is like being a European. We Euroepans think it funny that most Americans don't have a passport or have only ever visited its two neighbouring countries. Yet when you visit the country and get first-hand experience of its size and scope, it becomes obvious why. The range in scenery and landscape is at the very least comparable with that of Europe, and the size of the place is similar too. How many Europeans travel outside Europe for their holidays? In summary: a beautiful and magnificently varied country, with a fantastic people. Fascinating. |
Erin 22.05.2006 20:02 |
Great post, Bohardy..:-) You've probably seen more of the US than me! |
Sonia Doris 22.05.2006 20:07 |
what about the USSR? |
Sonia Doris 22.05.2006 20:07 |
[sorry, double post again...] and btw... *waiting for a nice TQ reply* |
deleted user 22.05.2006 20:43 |
Bohardy, your summary of the US really brought a smile to my face. It's nice to see some positive feedback about my country when most of the feedback is negative. I'm glad you enjoyed your stay here and hope you can come again some day. :-)) Oh, and just out of curiosity, which states did you visit? |
M a t i a s M a y 22.05.2006 22:00 |
Lisser wrote:OH YEAH?MatiasMay wrote:Yes, I believe I do want a piece of you.Lisser wrote:DO YA WANT A PIECE OF ME!?!?MatiasMay wrote: Well I don't like it it's not against the people but against the goverment. I wish they all get cancer and die slowly, right in the way they deserve. CAPO E Best wishes *Are you insane? Maybe it's just a language barrier, but you don't make any sense. YOU NAZI! |
Crazy LittleThing 22.05.2006 23:23 |
Munchsack <h6>The Paranoid QueenZoner wrote: I also hate how the settlers came in and stole the land from the Natives and killed them, basically. Obviously the people who live there now did not do that, but their ancestors did. So every time you call yourself an American, remember you are living on stolen land.True of course. And from where did the settlers come? |
Crazy LittleThing 22.05.2006 23:29 |
<font color=scarlet>EmpressOfTheUniverse wrote: I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!!And this hate comes, presumably, from your extensive travels and experience in the United States and your personal interactions with the citizens therein? |
Crazy LittleThing 22.05.2006 23:39 |
Bohardy: Although I have no authority whatsoever to do so, I proclaim you Queenzone's own modern-day Alexis de Tocqueville. Cheers! |
Slap the P 23.05.2006 02:40 |
Yeah, Bohardy. Your post is really good. It might put things in perspective. Those posts shouting: "I heard from..." and "she said, he said" are interesting because they illustrate how we people draw conclusions with very few facts. Sometimes it can be very fatal. Mayniac316; you started this thread. Are you happy with what you're reading so far? |
M a t i a s M a y 23.05.2006 02:46 |
No |
YourValentine 23.05.2006 04:14 |
I think most "negative" comments are not about the people of the USA, it's mostly about the policy of the American government. Americans are really very tolerant and friendly. I only once visited for about 4 weeks and I have had very similar experiences as Bohardy. However, having grown up in Germany, where the USA has always been described as heaven on earth, there was a certain disillusion in some respect. For example they did have the glittering sky scrapers and huge bulidings but the power lines were above ground and the first thunderstorm switched off the power in all the glittering buildings. Since I was in Florida which is a hurricane country, I was very surprised about that. In other ways I was amazed like a child about the way how Americans make life easy and convenient. I think the it's the vastness and the pioneer spirit that makes the biggest difference between the USA and - for example - Europe. My country is about as big (small) as New Jersey but 80 million people live here and it's very similar in other European countries. We have to live with our resources, we cannot build a wood hut and when it collapses we build another one - like I saw in Florida where whole neighbourhoods were not rebuilt after a hurricane but simply left to rot away. Americans are generous and open minded because the country is so big and they are used to eat up the resources and not to conserve them while in Europe we are very concerned about the environment because everything is so much smaller and we have to share if we want to survive. While Europe always lost the most courageous people to emigration, Americans are the children of exactly these people who had the stamina to leave their countries to build a better life for their kids. Since I was a guest in a friends house when I was in the USA I had many good conversations with people there and I have to say they are just as critical about their own country as we are about ours and I never met a flag waving patriot telling me that America is God's country or something like that. |
deleted user 23.05.2006 07:56 |
I went to Florida about five years ago and it was magical. I'm going back next year. I had a great time. Don't know what the rest of the US is like though. But my new adopted city is London! I fell in love with it when I went over a couple of weeks ago. |
deleted user 23.05.2006 08:37 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote:yes but when i was in the states and i told them i was irish they expected me to be a red-headed drunk....<font color=scarlet>EmpressOfTheUniverse wrote: I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!!And this hate comes, presumably, from your extensive travels and experience in the United States and your personal interactions with the citizens therein? |
deleted user 23.05.2006 08:38 |
ChinesedogTorture wrote:Bush is as smart as an 3 year old on steriods.....Mr.Jingles wrote:Bush's stupidity has prooven us it has no bounds.ChinesedogTorture wrote:Why doesn't that surprise me when even the President of the United States has no clue that there's black people in Brazil, too.<font color=scarlet>EmpressOfTheUniverse wrote: I hate the way Americans treat People who are from Latin America or Native American....or any one with a bit of culture!!!!!!!!!!I know!! Once, my teacher went to the US, and she told people she was Brazilian. This one guy actually asked if people walked around naked and lived in forests. He was serious, too. Plus they were showing everyone how to fold an American flag. They asked her, "How do you fold YOUR flag?" "We don't fold our flag, actually." She said they just stared at her as if her country was uncivilized. I hate prejudice like that. :-( |
FreMe 23.05.2006 09:10 |
I´ve never been to Americ.. But if Im lucky I´ll study there some of next year, and some of the year after.. I would perfer London, But it was eather America or nothing.. But im still exited *shivers* :) |
Lisser 23.05.2006 09:24 |
YV wrote: "Since I was a guest in a friends house when I was in the USA I had many good conversations with people there and I have to say they are just as critical about their own country as we are about ours and I never met a flag waving patriot telling me that America is God's country or something like that." You'd find some people like that in some of the Southern, bible belt states. There are some people in those areas, not all, some that think America can do no wrong and we are God's gift to the planet. However, the majority of Americans are pretty realistic. Bohardy, I'm so glad you had a great experience here. I hope I can travel the world and experience what you have!! MatiasMay, can you go play over at QOL for a couple days? I've got a bad headache and I can't deal with you today. Your posts will fit in nicely over there. |
Erin 23.05.2006 10:23 |
the_hero wrote: My parents went too the Minneapolis area and maybe it's not the most spectacular part of America..I lived in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area for a year and don't think that is the best example of city or country life in the US. The most touristy thing is the Mall of America. Personally, I think Minnesota and all it's surrounding states are too damn cold and snowy to even be inhabitable by humans..;-) |
Erin 23.05.2006 10:27 |
Lisser wrote:YV should've come up to SC. She could've got a real taste of patriotism and redneckism..;-)YV wrote: Since I was a guest in a friends house when I was in the USA I had many good conversations with people there and I have to say they are just as critical about their own country as we are about ours and I never met a flag waving patriot telling me that America is God's country or something like that.You'd find some people like that in some of the Southern, bible belt states. There are some people in those areas, not all, some that think America can do no wrong and we are God's gift to the planet. However, the majority of Americans are pretty realistic. |
AspiringPhilosophe 23.05.2006 11:38 |
Erin wrote:Don't sugguest that! We don't need any more of that message getting sent out! It's coming out too much as it is with the conservative christians running the white house....Lisser wrote:YV should've come up to SC. She could've got a real taste of patriotism and redneckism..;-)YV wrote: Since I was a guest in a friends house when I was in the USA I had many good conversations with people there and I have to say they are just as critical about their own country as we are about ours and I never met a flag waving patriot telling me that America is God's country or something like that.You'd find some people like that in some of the Southern, bible belt states. There are some people in those areas, not all, some that think America can do no wrong and we are God's gift to the planet. However, the majority of Americans are pretty realistic. |
Erin 23.05.2006 12:17 |
CMU HistoryGirl wrote:T'was a joke. We aren't all conservative Christians down here, ya know...just a good 80-90%..:-PErin wrote: YV should've come up to SC. She could've got a real taste of patriotism and redneckism..;-)Don't sugguest that! We don't need any more of that message getting sent out! It's coming out too much as it is with the conservative christians running the white house.... |
AspiringPhilosophe 23.05.2006 13:03 |
Erin wrote:I know. I should have noted that I was laughing as I wrote that. :-)CMU HistoryGirl wrote:T'was a joke. We aren't all conservative Christians down here, ya know...just a good 80-90%..:-PErin wrote: YV should've come up to SC. She could've got a real taste of patriotism and redneckism..;-)Don't sugguest that! We don't need any more of that message getting sent out! It's coming out too much as it is with the conservative christians running the white house.... Sorry |
S@turn 23.05.2006 17:37 |
my experiences in the U.S. were nice. I met wonderful people, of course, therefore I was going there, and of course I met also some people of who we in Europe think that it are typical Americans (cowboy hat, white socks in sandals, eating big hamburgers, etc). It is a matter of what you want to see. The american flag that I saw in practically every house didnt bother me, but silly enough later, back home, some people told me that they found it so weird, patriotic. I looked at the pics and realized that the flags were there, well, I must say that I have lovely friends in the US, and it is of course ashame that the politics and some others make such a bad name for their country, but in fact that counts for many countries. If it comes to freedom of speech and on equal treatment of everyone, I see no difference. Here people also live in and from the street, that's there the same And assholes are everywhere, even in the US :) |
Bohardy 23.05.2006 19:19 |
To Erin and Miss James - Glad I brought a smile to your faces. I admit I'd forgotten I'd posted that, because it was made during one of those ill-advised visits to the Internet whilst being completely pissed. Still, at least I didn't make any typos (amazingly) and I stand by every word. Amanda - Off the top of my head: California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennesse, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersy, New York. I didn't get to visit your state and it's fabulous arch. And I do hope to visit again someday, this time doing the top-half of the country! Crazy Little Thing - Can't say I'd ever heard of Alexis de Tocqueville, but after checking him out on Wikipedia I say to thee "ithankyou". Slap the P - Thanks very much. Never underestimate the power of posting whilst your're drunk. Lisser - Me too. And I hope you get to travel too! As I said, I can understand why so many Americans don't wander too far from their country's borders, but it still saddens me that they don't. There's so much world out there... |
Slap the P 23.05.2006 19:41 |
Bohardy wrote: As I said, I can understand why so many Americans don't wander too far from their country's borders, but it still saddens me that they don't. There's so much world out there...You're right again! Wait a minute... Are you drunk again? |
deleted user 23.05.2006 21:04 |
Bohardy wrote: To Erin and Miss James - Glad I brought a smile to your faces. I admit I'd forgotten I'd posted that, because it was made during one of those ill-advised visits to the Internet whilst being completely pissed. Still, at least I didn't make any typos (amazingly) and I stand by every word. Amanda - Off the top of my head: California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennesse, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersy, New York. I didn't get to visit your state and it's fabulous arch. And I do hope to visit again someday, this time doing the top-half of the country! Crazy Little Thing - Can't say I'd ever heard of Alexis de Tocqueville, but after checking him out on Wikipedia I say to thee "ithankyou". Slap the P - Thanks very much. Never underestimate the power of posting whilst your're drunk. Lisser - Me too. And I hope you get to travel too! As I said, I can understand why so many Americans don't wander too far from their country's borders, but it still saddens me that they don't. There's so much world out there...- That's a pretty big chunk of the US - maybe with your next visit you'll see the rest of it! Be sure to let me know if you're ever in my area. Missouri has some beautiful land and a couple fun things here and there to do. :-) |
Maz 23.05.2006 22:24 |
Bohardy wrote: Off the top of my head: California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennesse, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersy, New York.I remember that you took the trip, but I don't remember when that was. I'm going to assume it was before I moved cross-country; otherwise, I would have enjoyed a little verbal sparring with a pedantic grammarian. Also, Tocqueville toured our prisons while visiting the US. One assumes Bohardy did the same. |
Lisser 24.05.2006 09:10 |
Zeni wrote:I'd bet a fiver on that!Bohardy wrote: Off the top of my head: California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennesse, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersy, New York.I remember that you took the trip, but I don't remember when that was. I'm going to assume it was before I moved cross-country; otherwise, I would have enjoyed a little verbal sparring with a pedantic grammarian. Also, Tocqueville toured our prisons while visiting the US. One assumes Bohardy did the same. ;) |
Bohardy 24.05.2006 14:13 |
If one prison and a run-in with the cops on Route 66 counts as "touring" then the drinks are on Lisser. It was bang-on 3 years ago Zeni. I too would have revelled in a linguistic tete-a-tete with a fellow stickler, but our path wouldn't allow us near them cold parts of the country where people say Ya instead of Yeah and pay people to kidnap their wife and bury people in the snow (which is where you reside/resided, Ya? I fear not, and that my American geographic knowledge has been exposed as rubbish). Plus I couldn't have run the risk of being out-pedanted by a woman. |