| Rotwang 08.05.2006 13:31 |
Will this be released in the U.S.? Any chance of rare stuff? |
| Micrówave 08.05.2006 16:25 |
You really think this is coming out Xmas 2006? Yeah, right! |
| Thanks 08.05.2006 17:18 |
Depends on your definition of "rare". If you don't have the Japanese edit of teo Torriatte, the US edit's of It's Late & Liar, the 12 mix on Pian/Pleasure, then yes, it's full of rare stuff. But there will be nothing unreleased. ps Microwarve - the words "box set" apply to anything released in a box, not JUST an anthology of Queen's unreleased material. |
| Nathan 08.05.2006 17:27 |
Oh man, so you mean I've been getting my hopes up for nothing? When oh when will I get the chance to obtain those B-Sides? That's all I need to complete my collection. |
| radio_what's_new 08.05.2006 20:27 |
What's the use of this box really? A lot of people already have the vinyl....Why don't they release a cool set with really rare stuff. I don't want a greatest hits extended version...tossers |
| AlexRocks 08.05.2006 20:34 |
Geeze. As far as I am concerned anything not available in the stores is considered rare. Especially if it hasn't been in stores for decades AND especially if they never were really all that easily available outside of their single releases...Radio_What's_New in some ways I can see your view but I think it will be nothing short of phenomenal for this group to have this type of compilation of all of this in one place. You must be old having everything! Lol! |
| Daburcor? 08.05.2006 20:54 |
Hell, I'm stoked about a singles box. It'll be nice to have all of that stuff in good quality and on CD. |
| Jakobe 08.05.2006 21:34 |
Dan Corson wrote: Hell, I'm stoked about a singles box. It'll be nice to have all of that stuff in good quality and on CD.I agree. |
| AlexRocks 08.05.2006 22:39 |
Apparently it won't be so much the singles in the form of each unto their own disc as it will be the single edits, b-sides, mixes, all released stuff but rare "crazy" stuff amongst ten discs. Otherwise it would be like fifty discs. Do anyone else even think that Hollywood Records are going to bother even releasing this in the U.S. of A. and if so does anyone really think they will release it in its original full form that the rest of the world will get it in? Say they better! By the way apparently it will be called "The Full Works". Even though there was already a box set released called "The Complete Works". Still it is a really cool title and I think that it will "work" (Get it? I am so clever! No pun intended of course!) just the same! |
| AmeriQueen 09.05.2006 00:33 |
Sounds like Queen. Tease us with a release of old Queen, but not the rare stuff long ago promised to us. It's another commercial exploit, offering likely remastered versions of b-sides all of us already have. Yes it is a selfish, commercial exploit designed to milk us. Yes it is BS to all of us who have been so patient. Yes it is wrong and we should send a message by not getting it. And yes... I say we knowing damned well that I will end up caving in and buying this new set the day it comes out. Normally, I would be super pissed at this shameless commercial decision, one of many Queen exploits(1st EP, Queen Rocks, Stone Cold Classics, etc.) However, since they toured this past year... I will just shut up and pull out my wallet again, hoping for top quality versions of stuff like (Human Body, Hijack My Heart and Soul Brother), not that we don't already have good enough versions floating around. In short, I wish they would have treated us with another live concert like a Houston '77, Earl's Court '77, Hammersmith '79, Budapest '86 or Hyde Park '76 or '2005. Oh well, there is always the new Q + PR album to hope for. |
| luthorn 09.05.2006 00:56 |
I do not buy anything unless it's NEW. The Night at the Opera - No way on earth I will shell out a penny on it. Any new live concert on DVD - I am more than happy to pay twice the going price. In fact if they release a Box Set of concerts on DVD and CD together, one per each tour of whatever material they have as long as it is complete, I would be willing to spend A LOT. |
| Nathan 09.05.2006 03:42 |
Do you know what I think? It will probably be like The Who's Singles Box Set or Black Sabbath's where there's about two, three or four songs per disc! I know I really desire the B-Sides, but I won't shell out money for 10 CDs when the songs I'm after will probably only fit on one. |
| Munchsack 09.05.2006 05:14 |
This is not exactly what I would have hoped for, but I am incredibly excited about this and I cannot wait. Most of the time I really hate Greg Brooks, but now I love him and I hope he is true to his word. Being only fifteen I never got a chance to buy the singles when they first came out, so I don't have the B-Sides. This is maybe an item that younger fans could benefit from more than the veterans. |
| Daburcor? 09.05.2006 05:55 |
"This is maybe an item that younger fans could benefit from more than the veterans." Nicely said! |
| Adam Baboolal 09.05.2006 07:19 |
Indeed, I'm really interested in getting it. I'm sure I remember that this was the plan to split things up, away from the box set. So, this is probably a good idea to let this stuff be separate. Of course, it makes perfect business sense as well. But I won't let that get me down like it will others. Peace, Adam. |
| Daburcor? 09.05.2006 08:27 |
"But I won't let that get me down like it will others." And it SO will. |
| DragonOnMyBack 09.05.2006 10:20 |
I guess I consider myself as a verteran having got most of the singles on vinyl (UK at least)plus the more recent ones on CD (Miracle onwards) but I am still pretty excited by this. I no longer own a turntable to play my 7" singles so it will be good to have all the different mixes,versions and B-sides(especially Human Body/Blurred Vision) on good quality CD. Of course the later singles and some of the B-side tracks are already available on CD but to have them all together will be great. I still want the rarities box sets though asap, and would have prefered them now and the singles later, but this is a good first step. And hopefully makes room for more of the rarer stuff when those box sets finally arrive. |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 09.05.2006 10:45 |
I think this is WAY better than the much of "nothing" we're used to. |
| deleted user 09.05.2006 13:00 |
You people are so sad. If you're not whining about Paul Rodgers, you are whining about the fact that the new release isn't what you wanted. BE GRATEFUL THEY'RE RELEASING ANYTHING. THIS IS 1000x BETTER THAN THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF ANATO! Are you the same people who whined at Milton Keynes being released? I remember the constant pathetic complaints about that all too vividly. |
| radio_what's_new 09.05.2006 13:12 |
No Thomas...I think you don't understand it. Queenproductions is promissing and cancelling box set releases for more than 15 years now. A lot of queen fans are around for a long time now. And much older than you are. And they bought all this so called "rare" stuff ages ago. Of course they can complain newer fans may be delighted with a b-side. But I don't give a flying shit. |
| deleted user 09.05.2006 13:20 |
Yes, but this is not THE box set, it's an extra, in a way. |
| MelinaMercury 09.05.2006 15:02 |
be good though hopefully |
| Boy Thomas Raker 09.05.2006 15:10 |
Good points radio_whats_new. If you were to flip Thomas' post around and make it read like this... "You people are so sad. You're thrilled about Beyonce and Britney for a cola commerical, and you are thrilled about the fact that Stone Cold Classics is everything you wanted. Especially repackaged for the fifth time. DON'T BE GRATEFUL THEY'RE RELEASING ANYTHING. THIS IS 1000x WORSE THAN THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF BORN TO RUN OR DARK SIDE OF THE MOON! QUEEN PRODUCTIONS ARE MILKING YOU WITH THE SAME PRODUCT FOR 15 YEARS NOW!" If Thomas' statement read like that, you'd have the POV of a lot of old time (and new) Queen fans who would like to see the definitive retrospective of their favourite band before THEY die. If that makes me, or us, pathetic, c'est la vie. Personally, I think accepting the crap like GH3 or Stone Cold Classics, which I don't buy BTW, is pathetic. IMHO of course. |
| Sebastian 09.05.2006 15:42 |
I hate most compilations, they ruin the concept of the band. For instance those "Early Days / Later Days" Led Zeppelin things, those made people to get them and never listening to wonderful tunes like 'How Many More Times' and 'Going To California'. Before the first Queen Greatest Hits, any person interested in the band (without being a fan) would buy 'A Night At The Opera' or 'News Of The World'. For those who see a package fulfilled with the same singles plus a score of rejects as the second coming of Jesus, good for them. I don't critiscise Queen Productions, I just think they're a bunch of tarts. |
| Adam Baboolal 09.05.2006 17:35 |
BHM 0271 wrote: If you were to flip Thomas' post around and make it read like this... "You're thrilled about Beyonce and Britney for a cola commerical, and you are thrilled about the fact that Stone Cold Classics is everything you wanted. Especially repackaged for the fifth time.Absolute tosh! I've said it many times before, making assumptions are the worst thing can do. And to those of us who are interested in this singles box, and are happy, we're targeted for being enthusiastic? Those above mentioned things are a poor argument as 9 times out of 10, the same people interested in this box, don't care about those releases. Thomas' post certainly didn't come across in an over the top way. Whereas your turnaround does. Roll out a new excuse for being angry at QP and fans that embrace things like the singles box. It comes across as being against these kind of fans. Peace, Adam. |
| radio_what's_new 09.05.2006 18:23 |
BHM 0271 wrote: Good points radio_whats_new. If you were to flip Thomas' post around and make it read like this... "You people are so sad. You're thrilled about Beyonce and Britney for a cola commerical, and you are thrilled about the fact that Stone Cold Classics is everything you wanted. Especially repackaged for the fifth time. DON'T BE GRATEFUL THEY'RE RELEASING ANYTHING. THIS IS 1000x WORSE THAN THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF BORN TO RUN OR DARK SIDE OF THE MOON! QUEEN PRODUCTIONS ARE MILKING YOU WITH THE SAME PRODUCT FOR 15 YEARS NOW!" If Thomas' statement read like that, you'd have the POV of a lot of old time (and new) Queen fans who would like to see the definitive retrospective of their favourite band before THEY die. If that makes me, or us, pathetic, c'est la vie. Personally, I think accepting the crap like GH3 or Stone Cold Classics, which I don't buy BTW, is pathetic. IMHO of course.Couldn't agree more with you BHM 0271 And Adam I have to tell you this: Did you read my post? I am only saying that people have the right to complain about shitty releases...I will explain it one more time because you just don't seem to get the point If people are happy with it ...good for them... But Thomas doesn't have to tell people like myself, who have been a fan for more than 15 years and bought a lot of 7 inches, that I don't have the right to complain...Queen released a lot of liquid shit after made in heaven and that is such a shame...They could have done it so much better... |
| Thanks 09.05.2006 18:25 |
Even though I have almost everything that would be on this box, and even though it will surely miss something, and loads of old pieces of vinyl will become a lot less collectable and valuable, I still say it's a lot less shitty than other releases.... |
| radio_what's_new 09.05.2006 18:32 |
Thanks wrote: Even though I have almost everything that would be on this box, and even though it will surely miss something, and loads of old pieces of vinyl will become a lot less collectable and valuable, I still say it's a lot less shitty than other releases....Using the argument that this release isn't as shitty as others is such a NON-ARGUMENT. less shitty is still too much SHIT |
| Adam Baboolal 09.05.2006 19:37 |
r.w.n, I had no reason to re-read what you wrote because I wasn't referring to you in any way. Therefore, I never needed to look at what you were saying in the first place. And who the heck said you can't complain? No-one said that. No, Thomas didn't either. Funnily enough, his post was about releases that weren't bad being slagged off. He never you said you couldn't express your opinion about them. He was merely making the point that this seems to happen even when a great release like Live at the Bowl comes out. It just gets tired and boring, in his opinion. And quite frankly, when you pointed your post out to me, it made me wonder, why, when my original post was about the tardy post made by BHM. Nothing to do with yourself. Peace, Adam. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 09.05.2006 21:31 |
Adam, are you on crack, or are you still mad at me for my comments on MIH where I said it was manipulative? Because if you believe that Thomas' comments of "You people are so sad. If you're not whining about Paul Rodgers, you are whining about the fact that the new release isn't what you wanted. BE GRATEFUL THEY'RE RELEASING ANYTHING. THIS IS 1000x BETTER THAN THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF ANATO!" aren't over the top, what with his use of CAP LETTERS TO MAKE HIS POINT, and my hypothetical reply is, the answer is you're on crack. RWN gave a totally decent argument, Thomas tells me I'm "sad" because I think QP is releasing shit. I've never said Thomas is sad for buying or supporting the band. My argument is, he, you, or I have no right to tell people what is right or wrong. Releasing this stuff holds back the box set. If people don't understand commerce that's cool. But flooding the market with compilation after compilation means that with more Queen "product" on the market that people can relate to (see Stone Cold Classics), there is less incentive to release product that the minority (fans who own more than the singles and greatest hits albums) would like to see. Buying Stone Cold Classics or this new B-sides thing doesn't make you or Thomas sad, so can you please explain why suffering in silence is supposed to be a noble gesture and make the fans who wish to see a true box set less sad? |
| AlexRocks 09.05.2006 22:23 |
Yes you see this would be about the 13th box set. So there have been box sets just not clear as to what they initially promised 15 years ago. At that time I assumed something like the "Led Zeppelin" four c.d. box set from 1990 that collects most of their songs from their original studio l.p.s. Some sort of four c.d. set like that. I am glad at this point that that hasn't been done though maybe in the future at some point. The reasoning behind hesitating on releasing certain things is because they don't want to flood the market, they want the original l.p.s to sell as well as possible before putting other versions or just more stuff out. It has to be strategic amongst what they have released AND to watch other artists and learn from their success and mistakes. It's all good. Let's see these are the Queen box sets released so far... 1. "The Complete Works" 2. "Magic Years" VHS video box set set 3. "Greatest Hits I & II" Limited Edition box set in green box 4. "Greatest Hits I & II" Limited Edtion box set in black box 5. "The Queen Collection" Limited Edition box set of "Classic Queen", "Greatest Hits", and "Queen Talks" + "Thank God It's Christmas" track. 6. "Box Of Flix" 7. "Box Of Trix" Limited Edition fan club only release. 8. some box set of a single from "Made In Heaven". 9. that huge box set of all Queen c.d.s in a frame thing 10. the limited edition singles collection on c.d. from the late 1980's 11. the first limited edition collection of remasters from Japan 12. the second limited edition collection of remasters from Japan 13. "The Crown Jewels" ...and of course there is "The Freddie Mercury Solo Collection". And frankly all of this could be boxes of turds but with this many releases even though many were limited editions make Queen stand out far and above most any other groups out there. Hardly anyone else could have done all of this...and I am thankful for each and everyone of them... |
| Nathan 10.05.2006 01:42 |
Now that I've had time to think, why don't we wait for an official tracklisting before we make our minds up? This new set could surprise us, you know. |
| YourValentine 10.05.2006 06:04 |
I don't think I have all single edits which will be on this box. For me it's very simple : if the CDs are copy protected, I am not buying them - if they are decent audio CDs with no copy protection I will buy them. As to Thomas Quinn - ignore his spitting rage, he has a problem. You just cannot expect a normal contribution from him without him insulting other users. |
| Daburcor? 10.05.2006 07:03 |
Nicely put YV... On both counts. Thomas, why must you be so constantly venomous? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.05.2006 08:18 |
In fairness, YV and Dan, apparently Thomas' posts were okay and lacking in venom, while mine was provocative and 'over the top.' I humbly apologize ;D |
| Sebastian 10.05.2006 09:13 |
To be fair, I don't think anybody's got the right to complain, unless QP force you to buy their shitty releases. If you don't like Greatest Hits (e.g. me) or hate absurd releases like Rare Live (e.g. me) you can simply not buy them. |
| Cwazy little thing 10.05.2006 09:44 |
I think some people on here are overreacting, and frankly theres a lot of dummy spitting going on. QP have released some shit over the years, no doubt, but perhaps not as much as some might argue. The likes of GH3 can be seen as trying to introduce new fans to Queen, in the hope that they might explore further, or at least gauge the market for the potential of new releases - the 90's werent exactly the best period for rock music. Stone Cold Classics on the other hand is totally pointless, given the availability of the GH's, and is indeed a milking situation. This new box set - where does it fall? Well - there will be tracks on there which are no longer available, and that itself means that professional quality versions of these are worth having to some people, like myself. Although I do object to buying tracks I already have again, even if theyre singles edits, there are countless bands who have done this sort of thing, because it sells - there is a market for it. That market probably isnt most hardcore fans, but lets be honest, you dont have to buy it, and what people are annoyed really has nothing to do with this product or its quality - its because what we would all like is "THE box sets", with all the rare stuff we dream of. So really - this new product is worthwhile, even to some serious Queen fans, who would like stuff like B-sides all in one place, rather than having to search round the net for versions which are poorer quality, or lifted from Vinyl, complete with Crackles. If you have to criticise, be sure its for what this is, not because of what it isnt. |
| radio_what's_new 10.05.2006 09:48 |
Sebastian wrote: To be fair, I don't think anybody's got the right to complain,Everybody has a right to complain....We call this freedom to express your own opinion./freedom of speech. And it is a natural right which is written down in practical every constitution on earth (Unless you were livin' in the ussr from stalin or the chile from pinochet ;) |
| Serry... 10.05.2006 10:40 |
If it would be complete - that's great, though I'd better buy GVH3. But something makes me think - it won't be complete and it won't have good package with detailed booklet. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.05.2006 10:50 |
I'm pretty sure that every forum on every web site ever created is set up to encourage discussion, therefore there will be disagreements, and complaints. This is our soapbox much like Brian has his. I like the rational disagreements on this board, and love learning new things. If I think that QP makes horrible choices, it doesn't change or affect my life, but I'm entitled to voice my displeasure, and not buy their product. If others love their choices, they're entitled to voice their happiness and buy their product. No one is right or wrong most times, it's just our point of view, and most of the time it's Stepfords who get pissed when people disagree with the Queen spin on things. |
| Sebastian 10.05.2006 13:23 |
Yes, sorry, I didn't express myself correctly. What I meant is that while everybody's got the right to criticise a release (that's why it's a forum, you're right), QP don't "owe" us anything. They're making dreadful compilations, but they're not forcing anyone to buy them. They're not thieves, they're merely a bunch of tossers. |
| Adam Baboolal 10.05.2006 13:27 |
BHM 0271 wrote: Adam, are you on crack, or are you still mad at me for my comments on MIH where I said it was manipulative?What's that all about? Peace, Adam. |
| Saint Jiub 10.05.2006 19:31 |
I am considering getting this to improve my vinyl versions. It is not horribly exciting, but it beats Queen+PR live (DVD & CD), Stone Cold Classics, or the aNatO rerelease (DVD & DVD-A) |
| Bohardy 18.08.2006 20:19 |
Just thought you might all like to know that there's no use getting excited about seeing this boxset this Christmas. As I understand it, the release date had already been put back to spring 2007, although it's now recently been shelved for a lot longer, and most likely won't even be out in 2007. Good old QP, eh? |