QueenZone discussion #776514

ibanez122 wrote: my take: Im a part hispanic myself, but how do you justify millions of people that shouldnt be here having any sayso about what their rights are? What about all the people that come to america and file to become american citizens? They have to wait years and years to be declared legal, but yet all the illegas want to become legal pretty much overnight - not cool. PLus, they didnt complain and hold these bullshit rallies untill this stuff was brought up. Plus, them missing work is not goning to hurt our economy any. There are tons for Americans that need jobs, so theres really no loss.

Mr.Jingles wrote: Hispanics should be given amnesty and a chance to become citizens as long as they're willing to ban reggeaton. If they want citizenship they must give something in return.

Mr.Jingles wrote: Hispanics should be given amnesty and a chance to become citizens as long as they're willing to ban reggeaton. If they want citizenship they must give something in return.

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote: The ones we should ship out are the ones who open crack houses and smuggle drugs. All others should get immediate amnesty

<font color=#FFD700>Let Us Be Purple wrote: Well Did anyone go to the immagration rallies like I did?

ibanez122 wrote: Plus, them missing work is not goning to hurt our economy any. There are tons for Americans that need jobs, so theres really no loss.

Mr.Jingles wrote: Try working in a farm at 90 degrees outdoors for less than the minimum wage for 10-12 hours a day.

Mr.Jingles wrote: It sickens me to see people with an Irish, Italian, and other European backgrounds who are so strongly anti-immigration but for once don't stop to realize that their grandparents came here in the exact same way. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's the sad truth.

Mr.Jingles wrote:

ibanez122 wrote: Plus, them missing work is not goning to hurt our economy any. There are tons for Americans that need jobs, so theres really no loss.

But those are exactly the jobs that nobody else wants to take. Try working in a farm at 90 degrees outdoors for less than the minimum wage for 10-12 hours a day. Of course, we can't make 11 million people legal residents all of sudden. It's just impossible. Seriously speaking, I do agree that some amnesty should be given to those who have been living here for the longest time (and can proove it), and more important who can speak english. Truth of the matter is that millions of people came in the exact same way from Europe in the first half of the 1900s. The difference is... it's much easier sending someone back across the Rio Grande, than sending back across the Atlantic. It sickens me to see people with an Irish, Italian, and other European backgrounds who are so strongly anti-immigration but for once don't stop to realize that their grandparents came here in the exact same way. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's the sad truth.

The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think you should all get out of America and give the place back to the Indians... lol.

<font color=green> M@tt wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

ibanez122 wrote: Plus, them missing work is not goning to hurt our economy any. There are tons for Americans that need jobs, so theres really no loss.

But those are exactly the jobs that nobody else wants to take. Try working in a farm at 90 degrees outdoors for less than the minimum wage for 10-12 hours a day. Of course, we can't make 11 million people legal residents all of sudden. It's just impossible. Seriously speaking, I do agree that some amnesty should be given to those who have been living here for the longest time (and can proove it), and more important who can speak english. Truth of the matter is that millions of people came in the exact same way from Europe in the first half of the 1900s. The difference is... it's much easier sending someone back across the Rio Grande, than sending back across the Atlantic. It sickens me to see people with an Irish, Italian, and other European backgrounds who are so strongly anti-immigration but for once don't stop to realize that their grandparents came here in the exact same way. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's the sad truth.

That is complete bullshit Jingles. Just because your Mexican, don't think for a second that any hard working 'American' but I think you mean white man, wouldn't want to support his family in any way he can. So enough with the 'no one would work those jobs' bullshit.

The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think you should all get out of America and give the place back to the Indians... lol.

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote:

The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think you should all get out of America and give the place back to the Indians... lol.

We conquored them fair and square

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote:

The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think you should all get out of America and give the place back to the Indians... lol.

We conquored them fair and square

We?

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote:

The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think you should all get out of America and give the place back to the Indians... lol.

We conquored them fair and square

jcrawford79 wrote: Some of these comments seem to be really uninformed. I grew up in southeast Missouri/northeast Arkansas where farming is an integral component of the local economy. My family has ran a family owned farm operation for several decades. Those who say that American citizens are willing to work these jobs are not familiar with my area, and possibly other areas as well. When an American applies for a job in the farming industry, they often make demands. They want to operate the machinery but not do the manual labor, such as pitching watermelons, chopping cotton, etc. The only people who are willing to do this work are the local Hispanic population. And the comments about employers' illegal hiring processes being the root of the problem is not fair. Someone has to do the work and if no one but illegal immigrants are willing, then what other choice do they have? Additionally, their safety is no more of an issue than that of the other farmhands. When they're injured, they're taken to the local ED where the farm owner typically pays all expenses. Statements founded upon uneducated opinions are often more destructive than outright lies.

<font color=green> M@tt wrote:

jcrawford79 wrote: Some of these comments seem to be really uninformed. I grew up in southeast Missouri/northeast Arkansas where farming is an integral component of the local economy. My family has ran a family owned farm operation for several decades. Those who say that American citizens are willing to work these jobs are not familiar with my area, and possibly other areas as well. When an American applies for a job in the farming industry, they often make demands. They want to operate the machinery but not do the manual labor, such as pitching watermelons, chopping cotton, etc. The only people who are willing to do this work are the local Hispanic population. And the comments about employers' illegal hiring processes being the root of the problem is not fair. Someone has to do the work and if no one but illegal immigrants are willing, then what other choice do they have? Additionally, their safety is no more of an issue than that of the other farmhands. When they're injured, they're taken to the local ED where the farm owner typically pays all expenses. Statements founded upon uneducated opinions are often more destructive than outright lies.

Absolute crap.

<font color=green> M@tt wrote: They get FREE health care. They get FOOD STAMPS and all the benifits that working men and women can't afford. So don't start your Columbian tirades with me Jingles. Your not worth my time.

Mr.Jingles wrote:

<font color=green> M@tt wrote: They get FREE health care. They get FOOD STAMPS and all the benifits that working men and women can't afford. So don't start your Columbian tirades with me Jingles. Your not worth my time.

How do they get free health care? To get health care and assistance through food stamps you need to have social security, which illegal immigrants don't even have for the main reason that they are ILLEGAL. They could perhaps provide a fake ID, for which I agree they should be prosecuted and deported. ...and what the hell those that have to be with me being Colombian? I'm just giving my point of view regardless of my ethnic background. I'm not taking sides on this issue, as I believe both sides are wrong. As I mentioned before I don't agree with deporting each and every one of the 11 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S. today, and I also don't agree with allowing residence to all of them. Personally I think that illegals who expect to become legal residents need: - To pass an English aptitude test - To have no criminal background (leave alone being an illegal immigrant) - To have proof or how long they've been living in the U.S. (Purchase receipts and all that stuff). - and letters of recommendation from American citizens. It might take a while to make all of this work, but I think it would be worth it for those who deserve it.

<font color=green> M@tt wrote:

jcrawford79 wrote: Some of these comments seem to be really uninformed. I grew up in southeast Missouri/northeast Arkansas where farming is an integral component of the local economy. My family has ran a family owned farm operation for several decades. Those who say that American citizens are willing to work these jobs are not familiar with my area, and possibly other areas as well. When an American applies for a job in the farming industry, they often make demands. They want to operate the machinery but not do the manual labor, such as pitching watermelons, chopping cotton, etc. The only people who are willing to do this work are the local Hispanic population. And the comments about employers' illegal hiring processes being the root of the problem is not fair. Someone has to do the work and if no one but illegal immigrants are willing, then what other choice do they have? Additionally, their safety is no more of an issue than that of the other farmhands. When they're injured, they're taken to the local ED where the farm owner typically pays all expenses. Statements founded upon uneducated opinions are often more destructive than outright lies.

Absolute crap.

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote:

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote:

The Millionaire Waltz wrote: I think you should all get out of America and give the place back to the Indians... lol.

We conquored them fair and square

We?

By 'we' I mean Custer, Shermann and Sheridan

<font color=green> M@tt wrote: It is when you know the real facts. The people he is speaking of are professional people. They operate machinery, they don't work in fields. I know first hand the problem this causes here where I live. There are many people I know that need jobs, and would be willing to pick blue berries, strawberries, corn...the list goes on. Why can't they? The jobs are taken by the mexicans you people are so fond of. Like swarms of locust they come in and take the jobs. Leaving little or none for those who LIVE in this country who have every RIGHT to be employed. They need money to clothe, feed and house their families. And they can't because of the millions of illegals that flood this place by the day. They get FREE health care. They get FOOD STAMPS and all the benifits that working men and women can't afford. So don't start your Columbian tirades with me Jingles. Your not worth my time.

queen4ever2 wrote: Not all Mexicans are like that, you're just insulting all of them.

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote: Do you not realize that there is 11 million of you? IF you want to say something, get a hunting rifle. You could do a lot of damage

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote: Do you not realize that there is 11 million of you? IF you want to say something, get a hunting rifle. You could do a lot of damage

I can see they're teaching you a lot of American family values at Young Republicans. The good thing is that when you do things to push forward the extreme right wing agenda, chicks at Young Republicans will let you touch their boobs... ...at least according to 'Family Guy'.

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote: Do you not realize that there is 11 million of you? IF you want to say something, get a hunting rifle. You could do a lot of damage

I can see they're teaching you a lot of American family values at Young Republicans. The good thing is that when you do things to push forward the extreme right wing agenda, chicks at Young Republicans will let you touch their boobs... ...at least according to 'Family Guy'.

They well outnumber the army and you know that we would do almost anything to prevent a riot

magicalfreddiemercury wrote: I find it amazing that law-abiding Americans who criticize illegals in this country are considered racist, ignorant or bigoted. Simply amazing.

<font color=green> M@tt wrote: Isn't it odd Thomas that you, living in the Netherlands know so much about the States and what people go through here. You are the ignorant one because you have no clue what this sort of thing is doing to communities and families. And people are right. I never said ALL mexicans are bad, or illegal. However, the ones that come come here to get into the drug trafficing and smuggling, the ones that come to get a free ride, and the ones that work under the radar of the taxpaying community need to be sent back. The borders need to be closed. For the purpose of weeding out the good from the bad. Thats really what this is all about anyway. So get off your high horse, and give the words 'bigot' and 'racist' a break. Unless you know what you are talking about.