QueenZone discussion #772059

Togg wrote: Go pay your respects, but don't mess it up for her and everyone that lives in the road, be respectful it's not a public memorial, it's private property.

Crazy LittleThing wrote: Please consider NOT spending the time/effort/money, and stay away from this private home.

Togg wrote: Freddie loved many places in his life, you should try to find some of your own.

Togg wrote: believe me I visited on the day of his death.

Burak Sepici wrote: I think it was very cool what was done to Freddie's house when he passed away ... turning the walls to a piece of art. But after 15 years he passed away spray painting or chalking anything on those walls are pure vandalism, whatever the reason

<font color="#CC66FF">xloveofmylifex wrote: i dont use spray paints because it makes it look all tacky but i do use a feltip or tepix just on the doors and the buzor and we just use chalk on the walls no big deal u no. but mary shouldnt take away the flowers and posters she should leave them because they make the door look nice and beautiful. yeah the spray paints ant good but the flowers and cards are! whats wrong with her? she cant take it that people still think of him and vist HIS house! her problem for staying at the house she could of moved but she didnt now she has to live with it all. shame on her really because she has so much coldness to the fans. freddie wouldnt of wanted that i bet he loved all his fans! i will conitue to write on the doors its my way of making a small tribute so YEAH whateverrrrrr mary!

<font color="#FF00CC">its_a_hard_life wrote:

Togg wrote: Freddie loved many places in his life, you should try to find some of your own.

I do have some favourite places. Hyde Park is one of them. The International Fan Club. Harrods. The Brixton Accademey. Wembley. And many more....

Thanks wrote:

Burak Sepici wrote: I think it was very cool what was done to Freddie's house when he passed away ... turning the walls to a piece of art. But after 15 years he passed away spray painting or chalking anything on those walls are pure vandalism, whatever the reason

I disagree with the first half. But more importantly, at what point does the switch occur? Is 5 years still art or is it vandalism by then?

Burak Sepici wrote:

Thanks wrote:

Burak Sepici wrote: I think it was very cool what was done to Freddie's house when he passed away ... turning the walls to a piece of art. But after 15 years he passed away spray painting or chalking anything on those walls are pure vandalism, whatever the reason

I disagree with the first half. But more importantly, at what point does the switch occur? Is 5 years still art or is it vandalism by then?

Ok, it was vandalism then too. But nobody was disturbed by it as far as I know, and the fact that even Queen featured the painted walls in their first video a few years after Freddie's death shows that they don't despise what had been done to the walls at the time.

The switch really occurs in my opinion when there's a new owner of the house, one who later has expressed that she is disturbed for what is *still* being done (a few years back) to the walls and the house.

Thanks wrote:

Burak Sepici wrote:

Thanks wrote:

Burak Sepici wrote: I think it was very cool what was done to Freddie's house when he passed away ... turning the walls to a piece of art. But after 15 years he passed away spray painting or chalking anything on those walls are pure vandalism, whatever the reason

I disagree with the first half. But more importantly, at what point does the switch occur? Is 5 years still art or is it vandalism by then?

Ok, it was vandalism then too. But nobody was disturbed by it as far as I know, and the fact that even Queen featured the painted walls in their first video a few years after Freddie's death shows that they don't despise what had been done to the walls at the time.

Roger used footage of Hitler in a video, and Gary Glitter appears on Magic Years. Do Queen not despise genocide & paedophilia also?

The switch really occurs in my opinion when there's a new owner of the house, one who later has expressed that she is disturbed for what is *still* being done (a few years back) to the walls and the house.

Well, the new owner moved in a couple of months later, so in your own opinion you've been a chavvy little vandal from day one. Please accept my congratulations at this impressive volte-face. Isn't it a bit odd that you couldn't figure it all out for yourself? Doesn't that concern you a bit?

Shadowlands wrote: Me? I'm just amazed that a 15 year-old, whose mother-tongue is English spells and writes so atrociously. I swore, reading the first few posts, that Vicky Pollard was a real person. "Yeah but no but yeah but no but wot-eva"

<font color=Violet>Poppy wrote:

Shadowlands wrote: Me? I'm just amazed that a 15 year-old, whose mother-tongue is English spells and writes so atrociously. I swore, reading the first few posts, that Vicky Pollard was a real person. "Yeah but no but yeah but no but wot-eva"

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

<font color=&#FF00CC">Lil*Queenie wrote:

<font color=Violet>Poppy wrote:

Shadowlands wrote: Me? I'm just amazed that a 15 year-old, whose mother-tongue is English spells and writes so atrociously. I swore, reading the first few posts, that Vicky Pollard was a real person. "Yeah but no but yeah but no but wot-eva"

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

You think that of practically everyone on this board Poppy.. 'You need to work on your grammer, young lady'...

'You need to work on your grammer, young lady'...

Thanks wrote:

'You need to work on your grammer, young lady'...

...and spelling. It's "grammar"

Thanks wrote: You are correct, there was a incorrect leap of logic I made in equating you with the original poster, possibly based on my own incredulity that there could be so many people who thought writing on walls was justifiable. I thus withdraw the "chavvy little vandal" allegation, and all subtexts that may have implied that you were guilty of any criminal offence. I still say that use of the footage in a Queen vid doesn't legitimise it though, and feel that the Hitler example is actually quite valid.

Thanks wrote:

'You need to work on your grammer, young lady'...

...and spelling. It's "grammar"

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: i think that perhaps it's_a-hard_life should spend more time in school and less time stalking people's houses. Human beings live in houses for several reasons - privacy being one of them. You wouldn't like someone hanging around outside your house. it's probably only Mary's extremely high tolerance levels and good nature that has stopped her having "stalkers" like you arrested. and if you really do go as often as you claim you do, you should have been arrested years ago! Try listening to teacher in school and you might learn how to spell and how to put grammatically correct sentences together...and on your way home from school one night pop into the local police station and ask the desk sergeant how many times you can hang around outside a house before it becomes stalking...i think you'll find that once the neighbours recognise you and are "nice to you" (your words) - probably because they are shit-scared - then it becomes stalking.

<font color="#CC66FF">xloveofmylifex wrote: i dont use spray paints because it makes it look all tacky but i do use a feltip or tepix just on the doors and the buzor and we just use chalk on the walls no big deal u no. but mary shouldnt take away the flowers and posters she should leave them because they make the door look nice and beautiful. yeah the spray paints ant good but the flowers and cards are! whats wrong with her? she cant take it that people still think of him and vist HIS house! her problem for staying at the house she could of moved but she didnt now she has to live with it all. shame on her really because she has so much coldness to the fans. freddie wouldnt of wanted that i bet he loved all his fans! i will conitue to write on the doors its my way of making a small tribute so YEAH whateverrrrrr mary!

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote: I visited Garden Lodge last year for the first (and last) time. I did write a message on the door but I don't think that is disrespectful to Mary Austin at all. The walls have been cleaned since the aftermath of Freddie's death but the door hasn't been replaced and the messages are still there. I don't know whether Mary Austin gets tired of people leaving bouquets outside the door or not but if people visiting feel they wish to leave flowers as a tribute to Freddie then that is their right. I'd imagine Mary is glad people still visit the house and pay their respects in a peaceful way, just I like did. I also observed a moment's silence upon arrival and took some photographs.

Burak Sepici wrote:

Thanks wrote: I still say that use of the footage in a Queen vid doesn't legitimise it though, and feel that the Hitler example is actually quite valid.

It's nice to see we're on the same grounds. About the Hitler footage, the song Nazis is about how they stink (and about stopping them if not doing anything else LOL). Naturally the video featuring Nazi soldiers and other Nazi-esque stuff backs up the message. In Heaven for Everyone however, it certainly doesn't seem as if they mean to say "look what you've done to Freddie's once lovely house, shame on you!". They show the footage as if to show the world how much Freddie was loved by his fans. It's just that they show the footage as if what had been done at the time was cool. Of course it doesn't legitimize painting on the walls, but it's certainly not the same as the Nazis video.

Thanks wrote:

bitesthedust<br><h6> The QZ gentleman... wrote: I visited Garden Lodge last year for the first (and last) time. I did write a message on the door but I don't think that is disrespectful to Mary Austin at all. The walls have been cleaned since the aftermath of Freddie's death but the door hasn't been replaced and the messages are still there. I don't know whether Mary Austin gets tired of people leaving bouquets outside the door or not but if people visiting feel they wish to leave flowers as a tribute to Freddie then that is their right. I'd imagine Mary is glad people still visit the house and pay their respects in a peaceful way, just I like did. I also observed a moment's silence upon arrival and took some photographs.

So it's ok because the although the wall has been cleaned, the door hasn't? Or is it ok because Mary doesn't complain about flowers being left?

bas asselbergs wrote: i have been INSIDE the house