|I'm sure I'll get a lot of heat for this but does anyone think this album is extremely overrated? I think it is. I'm not saying it's bad because it's not. I just do think it measures up to some of Queen's other works, with the exceptions of The March Of The Black Queen, White Queen, and Seven Seas Of Rhye. Queen 1 is better imo as are A Night At The Opera, A Day At The Races, Sheer Heart Attack, The Game, The Miracle, and Innuendo. It still ranks higher than Jazz, Made In Heaven, News Of The World and A Kind Of Magic. I also prefer The Works and Hot Space to this one as well.
not counting procession as I think it's a good opener.
Father To Son - I think is a very weak track to kick off an album (first lyric of the album). If you want good album starters, try Brighton Rock, Innuendo, Radio Ga Ga, One Vision, Keep Yourself Alive, or Death On Two Legs
White Queen - as I said before this is one of the shining stars of Queen II. Excellent song!
Some Day One Day - Brian's weakest song by far on a Queen album. Want better? Try Sail Away Sweet Sister, Long Away, '39, and All Dead All Dead
The Loser In The End - I kind of like this song actually but don't think it really flows with the other tracks too well.
Ogre Battle - This is a very good rock song. I should have mentioned this one as one of the good points of Queen II.
The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke - This song I kind of like. An interesting song. Freddie had many of these - Seaside Rendezvous, Bring Back That Leroy Brown, Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon, My Fairy King, The Millionaire Waltz, etc...
Nevermore - The only problem I have with this (not really a problem though) is that it should be longer. Very good song, and a great interlude to the next track.
The March Of The Black Queen - 5 stars. If it wasn't for Bohemian Rhapsody, this song may have been their defining moment of the 70's. Awesome.
Funny How Love Is - Intersting how you can have the best song off the album followed by the worst song. Terrible, way too repetitive. Gets annoying after awhile.
Seven Seas Of Rhye - Nice song. Good release for a single although it didn't do much for them, it wasn't until the next single Killer Queen that they got much airplay. Good song though.
Now before you threaten to kill me let me say again that I like this album. I just think it is too overrated and doesn't measure up to some of their other albums. It has its good moments but overall I don't see it as one of their best. I'm sorry guys. Don't hate me. I love Queen!
|why do you always write the same things, you already mentioned a few times this isn't one of your fav albums!.. I disagree with you, Queen2 has some of the most creative sounds created by queen and father to son is a great opener. The only song I don't like is "loser in the end" the rest is brilliant. everyone tries to compare queen2 and the game or the works, but I say that's impossible. They were two different eras and sounds, both great for their time.|
|Fantastic album! If they had the Prophet's Song on it, it would be even better.|
|I think it's just the opposite. This album is very underrated. Only die-hard Queen fans recognise its greatness while the avarage rock-listener don't know anything about this album (save 7seas). And that is really a shame.
One more thing: You evaluated the songs separatelty. In this case, the album as a whole is more than sum of its parts.
|I think the topic-writer is entitled to his/her personal taste, but I do wish to add that he/she is 100% ignorant when it comes to music, and I am glad that this person is not a reviewer. Although RS magazine could do with this one, he/she'd fit right in with the rest.|
|You just opened up a can of worms here. Many people - including myself - consider this to be one of the best Queen albums of all time. Even though you said you only like three of the songs, your "review" indicates that you actually DISLIKE only three of the songs - 'Father To Son', 'Some Day, One Day', and 'Funny How Love Is'.
The album isn't meant to be listened to as a collection of songs, but more of a thematic piece. You can't just say to yourself, "Well, I feel like listening to 'White Queen' right now," but it's something that needs to be listened to from start to finish. It should also be remembered that the band were in an experimental phase after their first album, so anything went, even if it got a little overindulgent at times. But that's what makes the album so fucking good, and it disappoints me that they never continued in a similar vein.
|Totally agree lester it's a masterpiece of an album, experimental, OTT, and full of pomp just the thing if you want a cohesive album to gel together.
The only downside on this album is LOSER as it does not fit the mood of the album IMO it feels disjointed to me, im not saying it's a crap song because it isn't it's just a definite filler track to end a cracking side 1.
It will always remain my fave album.
|For me it's definitely "Queen II" and then "Innuendo". Outstanding pieces of Art. But that's personal of course.
However, imo it is not overrated, apart from everyones personal taste. It's just more talked about, because it is SO different from everything they did before ("Queen" is far less Prog and far less structured) or after. This is metal-art-prog-rock-classic... :-)
And a lot of people happen to like it a lot. But first and foremost it is unique in their catalogue, no matter if you like or not. So nope, not overrated.
|What? Queen II is nearly underrated!|
|Queen II is one of Queen's greatest albums. Case closed.|
|So you think that The Game is better than the masterful, ethereal, hard rocking extravaganza that is Queen II? How the heck can you compare Rock It Prime Jive with March Of The Black Queen, dated synthesisers and new wave hogwash against organic instrumentation and meticuluous attention to detail? The Game is an album of mostly mediocre pop songs, no rock, no creativity. The sound is cheap, tinny Mack rubbish against a great layered production for Queen II. Lyrically I'd rather have Nevermore than Don't Try Suicide any day. Innunedo may be better but The Game- you must be joking.|
|it was electric7
|I think that Queen II is underrated accually.|
|If it was overrated, we would've had countless reissues, two DVD-A releases, and a 30th anniversary package in its honor. And yet... here we are.|
|The Freddie Bigotes
|Simply....No More Words....
The Best Queen Album ¡¡¡¡¡ For Sure ¡¡¡¡
|sorry mr. Producer!!!!
go and tell this to Brian!!!!!
I´m sure he kick your ass
|The Real Wizard
|Obviously the topic starter has no clue about "active listening" as a way of appreciating the flow of a progressive album. This is the closest to prog Queen ever got. It is a work of sheer genius. Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I guess everyone can't appreciate music that goes beyond the confines that generally define pop-oriented music.
Queen II is extremely underrated. I know of very few people who have heard of anything aside from SSOR. In my opinion, Queen II is not only one of the greatest Queen albums ever, but one of the greatest rock albums ever.
Lester Burnham wrote: If it was overrated, we would've had countless reissues, two DVD-A releases, and a 30th anniversary package in its honor. And yet... here we are.LMAO! Don't forget the Fairy Feller's Master Broadway Show!
Queen II is not about the songs - it is about performance and production.
|Queen II is conceptual album. And the best!|
|Carol! the Musical
drwinston wrote:Hey, The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke would be a great idea for a Broadway performance! Think about it...Lester Burnham wrote: If it was overrated, we would've had countless reissues, two DVD-A releases, and a 30th anniversary package in its honor. And yet... here we are.LMAO! Don't forget the Fairy Feller's Master Broadway Show! Queen II is not about the songs - it is about performance and production.
|Queen II is overrated, but by fans only. When you look at all those Best Rock Album polls, you won't find there QII. Instead there will be ANATO, SHA, sometimes Innuendo. I remember that "Q" magazine rated all Queen's albums once and they gave QII two stars (out of five). Personally, I think that QII is a very interesting record, but a bit over the top;) I appreciate all the ideas put on that lp, all Queen's creativity, but it's just too much for me. Besides, the first side is not so good, is it?|
|I love this album, it's one of their greatest albums, IMHO,much better than ANATO, at least for me.
Freddie's compositions are just incredibly original, complex, experimental, great harmony work and the progressive concept of the album itself just gets me. I have to say I prefer Freddie's black rather that Brian's white side of the album,although I love the white queen and its harmonies and angelical like choirs, the fairy feller's master stroke, TMOTBQ, Nevermore, Ogre battle....WOW. And procession is just the best imaginable opening...just captures the essence of an intro to a long greatly told musicly told story.
And I knoe I didn't write them in the original order and Funny how love is is not her nor Seven seas of Rhye. These two I find under the level of the rest.
Just for me.
|it was electric7
|I think Queen II would be even better if Some Day One Day,and Loser In The End were replaced by Great King Rat and Doin All Right.|
|Well, over-rated get real!! This album was a progression and movement from the first but shaped what we love about Queen and that was Freddies flamboyance vocally and lyrically-it defined the Queen persona. Someone said SSoR didn't chart very well I'm sure it was top ten (someone will correct me if I'm wrong).
I agree with those who say you can't really compare with successive albums-the odd track-King Rat, MotBQ,BR,PS,Innuendo, SMGO-but they did mix it and either follow trends or completly buck them...the famous story of FM bumping into Mr Savage(Sid Vicious)when NOTW was being finalised.
Nope not over-rated and am I the only one who likes loser in the end-think the sentiment behind the song is brill-Just love it!!
|It was necessary. It was Queen.|
|i'm glad people are defending this album in this topic. Let me state again that I do like this album. I meant it was overrated as an album. However I do like some of the songs. Again, I like Queen II. Just so everyone knows, I'm going to listen to my Queen II cd tonight and maybe I'll appreciate it more. I appreciate everyone's opinion except quinn because he always has to attack my opinions and throw his two cents worth of bull s*** in there. Obviously some people think this album is great and some don't. I don't think it's their best so I said so. Other people do think it's their best so they said so. Hence the meaning of an opinion. Get it?|
|I just love when retarded fans give their song by song review of albums. :P|
|This has actually always been one of my LEAST favorite Queen albums.
I have tried listening to Queen 2 so many times...perhaps more then some of you who think this album is their best, and quite honestly, I still don't "get it"....
...and mind you, Queen is my favorite band by a landslide.
|You were kidding when you said you prefer The Works and Hot Space to QueenII?ha ha good one.And as far as being over rated how can that be? no one knows the album exists out side true Queen fans .Personally it's my favorite.|
|Best Queen album of all time
Best songs, amazing sound
only one hit
beyond our little minds hehe
|i say the song your user name is dedicated to is more over rated than Queen II
(i say this because i really do believe that Bo Rhap is over rated, even though its great and really has a lot of complicated musical layers to it, i still feel it is not the best of Queen's work and Queen II is my favorite album ;))
|I cannot agree with you about the album being overrated. As a whole I like the album very much and as a whole I certainly rank this albus being one of my favourites.
However, the album contains a few songs a absolutely dislike. I cannot stand listening to loser in the end, it has this 'cowbell' like sound in it, which I really hate. The other song I stronly dislike is funny how love is, indeed there are too many repetitions. I'd rather see this song lasting two minutes or so and nevermore twice as long...
|Yeah, I think it is overrated. It's good, but IMHO not as good as people seem to think.|
|Quite simply the best Queen album, bar none.|
|I think, by the general public, it's very underrated. It was my #7-ish purchase of Queen CD-ness. I didn't know anything about it and was wary about waiting the week to get something so obscure.
Now, Queen II is one of my favourites. I couldn't say what one is really my favourite - it's all about how I'm feeling. At the moment, I've got no choice to listen to QII over and over since half my Queen CD's were confiscated due to a dreadful curtain-opening mishap.
I wouldn't say QII is their "best" musical work. First, I just don't know enough about music/theory/thing to judge that. I do think that the musical "idea" of "March of the Black Queen" is 'smoother' in "Bohemian Rhapsody" (don't know what the dickens I'm talking about, but MotBQ always reminded me of BR, just a little less "polished" and "together".). And second, I like other, later, albums just as much. There is no run-away victor in my personal taste and opinon.
It's all up to the person. You don't have to like an album because other people do, or dislike it for the same reason.
|Everybody can have their opinion according to their taste. One can prefer We Will Rock You to Bo Rhap, but everyone (I hope) agrees that Bohemian Rhapsody is musically better.
Well that's it with Queen II. Musically, it's a winner, one of the richest and finest albums by any rock band that you can hear. But then again, you don't have to prefer QII, to The Works because of this...
But stating that it is overrated? That's simply false.
|Queen II is the shiznit|
|Baa, I don't actually pick favorite songs or l.p.s. Obviously I suppose some are better than others compared to artist to artist but I myself love quite all the Queen l.p.s about the same...yes that includes "Queen II", "The Game", and "News Of The World" though again I can't say which are better.|
|how can an album be overated if it's never mentioned by the average rock fan!...overated albums include nirvana's nevermind or guns n roses albums.|
|i don’t think so.
it is one of my fav.... queen albums.
the whole album is a great way to listen too.
but that’s my oppinnion.
it’s like marillion misplaced child hood 1985 and
brave 1994 you must listen to the whole albums
then the songs come to live and mean someting.
it’s not to compare marillion and queen but
if you listen to these albums from beginning ti end they get a feeling.
only a few songs wont do much justice.
my top 5 queen albums are
1 A NIGHT AT THE OPERA,1975
2 QUEEN 2,1974
4 THE MIRACLE,1989
5 A DAY AT THE RACES,1976
|Queen II takes the listener on a journey that stimulates the imagination and challenges many ideas music lovers born after 1976 have about music and what albums and songs can do. Queen did not simply record a bunch of songs and slap them on some vinyl and call it done. They carefully and painstaking sculpted a audio experience while pushing the limits of the technology and recording techniques of the time. That sounds so cliche a thing to say, but it is true. The flow of the songs is virtually uninterrupted, creating pieces that are more like classical movements then simply "the next song on the album".
1st Movement: Procession-Father To Son-White Queen (As It Began)
2nd Movement: Someday One Day-Loser In The End
3rd Movement: Ogre Battle-The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke-Nevermore
4th Movement: The March Of The Black Queen-Funny How Love Is
Finale: The Seven Seas Of Rhye
The album is grandiose and borderline conceptual. It's not for everyone, but to simply call it "Overrated" is to wantonly ignore the artistic skill required of both the band to create such a work and the listener to appreciate it.
Not everyone who loves music needs theirs to be in bite-sized portions. A full-course black-tie banquet with class, style, sophistocation is one I'll take over the drive-through at McDonald's anytime.