| RETROLOVE 24.03.2006 06:46 |
Is their a difference between writing poetry and writing song lyrics. I wanted to take a class here in Milwaukee on songwriting, because I heard there is a difference? Heres one of my poems that I wrote a couple of days ago... Glory days... by onelonelypussycat Now that our glory days have past us by went faster than the blink of an eye then birds flying in the bluest sky I wonder what is left of you and I I wonder what is left of me and you I wonder if what they said about us is really true Looking at old pictures thinking about the old days Saying to myself: Have our glory days... finally gone away? (not the whole poem) Do you write any? Post it, so I can read it!!! :) Thanks! |
| deleted user 24.03.2006 13:14 |
I write poems but I dont want to post them because their personal.I prefer poetry to song writing.You can all thank WB Yeats for my opinion on that! |
| Rafs_Cute_Girlfriend 24.03.2006 18:24 |
I write poetry. I'm in a band so I'm trying to write some songs, but it's hard as I'm having trouble thinking of melodies. |
| KillerQueen840 24.03.2006 19:04 |
I don't know what's easier. They seem pretty similar. I've made a few poems, but most of them suck (and are personal). I'll share part of one though that is not personal. Anyhow, here's a fragment from my half-assed rough draft of a two page poem I've never finished: __________________________________________ A normal person on the street Someone who you should never meet A demon inside waiting to be unleashed A new danger grows as the sun will decease The full moon will soon be rising A beast is soon to be on the horizon It is the curse... When you see that you can't see any more That's when it hunts so lock your door Around the corner Around the block Time's running out So make your move It might be your last You, your life, only of the past The bitch is back That's what they say Hello night! I'm here to stay. The beast shows no mercy It is full of pride To fill the insatiable thirst for blood The undying hunger for flesh There will be no evidence left behind to hide The sadistic pleasure for pain The fun of the chase Unworthy fools trapped Incredulous and out of place It toys (with your mind) It destroys (your will) It toys (with your strength) It destroys (your body) The fate you knew Once you two met The terror carried through Released from the sunset ...to which all hell broke loose once again With fragments of a memory from SomeThing else The nightmares come One can only want to kill herself Aware the time will come once again A new inncocent will feel Its wrath A new innocent who crosses Its path Whatever poor soul crosses into Its path. |
| John S Stuart 24.03.2006 19:53 |
Onelonelypussycat: Is THERE a difference between writing poetry and writing song lyrics? No. The only difference is that lyrics should scan to fit the music - so must be more rhythmical. (This does not mean that all lyrics must rhyme - or cannot be free verse). Many established poems (the works of Robert Burns for example) were not originally written as music. The music to 'My Love Is Like A Red, Red Rose' and 'Auld Lang Syne' - was added later. Conversely, the Susan Vega song 'Tom's Diner' was a tune without lyrics - and when the lyrics were added later, you may notice that they were free-verse and did NOT Rhyme. Neither did the lyrics follow the traditional - verse, verse, chorus - song pattern: 'Tom's Diner' I am waiting At the counter For the man To pour the coffee And he fills it Only halfway And before I even argue He is looking Out the window At somebody Coming in "It is always Nice to see you" Says the man Behind the counter To the woman Who has come in She is shaking Her umbrella And I look The other way As they are kissing Their hellos I'm pretending Not to see them And instead I pour the milk I open Up the paper There's a story Of an actor Who had died While he was drinking It was no one I had heard of And I'm turning To the horoscope And looking For the funnies When I'm feeling Someone watching me And so I raise my head There's a woman On the outside Looking inside Does she see me? No she does not Really see me Cause she sees Her own reflection And I'm trying Not to notice That she's hitching Up her skirt And while she's Straightening her stockings Her hair Is getting wet Oh, this rain It will continue Through the morning As I'm listening To the bells Of the cathedral I am thinking Of your voice... And of the midnight picnic Once upon a time Before the rain began... I finish up my coffee It's time to catch the train The point here is that the above poem works as a song because it scans in a rhythmical fashion. If you know the song - here is my dedication to Queenzone. There's no difference between writing either poetry or lyrics It's just words which are structured to give artistic thought some meaning As I type here on my keyboard thinking is this just pretentious? Or have I made my point that words can mean what I command? |
| RETROLOVE 25.03.2006 01:40 |
<font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: Are you inspired by Bruce Springsteen? :P nice though, well done!Thanks for the compliment! |
| RETROLOVE 25.03.2006 01:40 |
<font color=lime>KillerQueen840 wrote: I don't know what's easier. They seem pretty similar. I've made a few poems, but most of them suck (and are personal). I'll share part of one though that is not personal. Anyhow, here's a fragment from my half-assed rough draft of a two page poem I've never finished: __________________________________________ A normal person on the street Someone who you should never meet A demon inside waiting to be unleashed A new danger grows as the sun will decease The full moon will soon be rising A beast is soon to be on the horizon It is the curse... When you see that you can't see any more That's when it hunts so lock your door Around the corner Around the block Time's running out So make your move It might be your last You, your life, only of the past The bitch is back That's what they say Hello night! I'm here to stay. The beast shows no mercy It is full of pride To fill the insatiable thirst for blood The undying hunger for flesh There will be no evidence left behind to hide The sadistic pleasure for pain The fun of the chase Unworthy fools trapped Incredulous and out of place It toys (with your mind) It destroys (your will) It toys (with your strength) It destroys (your body) The fate you knew Once you two met The terror carried through Released from the sunset ...to which all hell broke loose once again With fragments of a memory from SomeThing else The nightmares come One can only want to kill herself Aware the time will come once again A new inncocent will feel Its wrath A new innocent who crosses Its path Whatever poor soul crosses into Its path.GREAT POEM! YOU NEED TO FINISH...THAT WAS GOOD! |
| RETROLOVE 25.03.2006 02:10 |
<font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: Are you inspired by Bruce Springsteen? :P nice though, well done!I've heard of Bruce Springsteen...dont have any of his CD's but I love "Born in the USA!!!" Thats the song!!! |
| RETROLOVE 25.03.2006 19:45 |
<font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote:OMG!!! I never knew someone had a song out that is like that, I seriously never knew Bruce S had a song out that sounds like my poem, I'm gonna have to change it up a little bit, lol!!!<B><font color=pink>Onelonelypussycat wrote:One of his songs is called Glory Days. The lyrics to the chorus are Glory days, well they'll pass you by Glory days, in the wink of a young girl's eye Glory days, glory days... :P<font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: Are you inspired by Bruce Springsteen? :P nice though, well done!I've heard of Bruce Springsteen...dont have any of his CD's but I love "Born in the USA!!!" Thats the song!!! |
| RETROLOVE 25.03.2006 21:08 |
<B><font color=pink>Onelonelypussycat wrote:<font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote:OMG!!! I never knew someone had a song out that is like that, I seriously never knew Bruce S had a song out that sounds like my poem, I'm gonna have to change it up a little bit, lol!!! I dont want to get sued for copywriting, lol<B><font color=pink>Onelonelypussycat wrote:One of his songs is called Glory Days. The lyrics to the chorus are Glory days, well they'll pass you by Glory days, in the wink of a young girl's eye Glory days, glory days... :P<font color=green>Linda Of The Valley wrote: Are you inspired by Bruce Springsteen? :P nice though, well done!I've heard of Bruce Springsteen...dont have any of his CD's but I love "Born in the USA!!!" Thats the song!!! |
| blerp 25.03.2006 23:07 |
I don't write many poems, but the ones I have written have turned into little songs..Like this one: untitled Pour upon yourself The milk of refinement Wrap yourself In the blanket of holiness That which could heal you That which could free you Now don't be afraid now Now don't run away now Stay right in your place now There's nothin' to fear now For who could hurt you now? For who could kill you now? 'Cos who could tell you how? To live... |
| Sherwood Forest 25.03.2006 23:13 |
oh mother mercury, look what theyve done to me |
| RETROLOVE 25.03.2006 23:39 |
LadyMercury wrote: I don't write many poems, but the ones I have written have turned into little songs..Like this one: untitled Pour upon yourself The milk of refinement Wrap yourself In the blanket of holiness That which could heal you That which could free you Now don't be afraid now Now don't run away now Stay right in your place now There's nothin' to fear now For who could hurt you now? For who could kill you now? 'Cos who could tell you how? To live...Great poem, do your thing babygirl! |
| deleted user 26.03.2006 07:21 |
You people need to stop the rhyming. It's been outdated for some 60 years now! If you want to rhyme, go write childrens' rhymes. If you want to write poetry, find a different way. |
| deleted user 26.03.2006 07:23 |
As for the original question: Yes, there is a difference. Lyrics offer you far less freedom than poetry does. You need to stick to a rhythm, are limited in your number of syllables, you have to pay attention to the vowel-sounds in combination with the music, etc. |
| blerp 26.03.2006 15:55 |
My poem isn't a rhyming one. I dislike rhyming, too childish. I think mine might seem like so...refinement..holiness..nah. |