QueenZone discussion #744886

<font color=red>Quonkers wrote: I wouldn't know because I'm more of a lead guitarist myself but I'm thinking of learning bass sometime soon. I guess it's like any instrument, it feels strange when you first pick it up but you get the hang of it eventually.

Serry... wrote: Entwistle, Squire and Deacon are the best, IMHO.

me_and_my_innuendo wrote: You also forget a couple of more... Geddy Lee Donald "Duck" Dunn Krist Novoselic Danny Miranda Adam Clayton there's a lot more too i know lol

<font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: You people are absolutely nuts. If there's ONE bass-player in the world who is better than ANY other (and this is just electric bass, don't even get me STARTED on double-bass), it is without ANY DOUBT JACO PASTORIUS

<font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: You people are absolutely nuts. If there's ONE bass-player in the world who is better than ANY other (and this is just electric bass, don't even get me STARTED on double-bass), it is without ANY DOUBT JACO PASTORIUS

<font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: You people are absolutely nuts. If there's ONE bass-player in the world who is better than ANY other (and this is just electric bass, don't even get me STARTED on double-bass), it is without ANY DOUBT <font size = 6> JACO PASTORIUS</font>

Lester Burnham wrote: If it looks easy, then it probably isn't. It takes a brilliant musician to play something that looks like any jackass can replicate. My friend plays bass, and when we used to jam (I play drums) I would watch him and just think to myself, "How can anyone not do that?" When I picked up the bass, though, I just made horrible noise that no musician could ever consider music. Then, of course, I would go and watch any live version of '5.15' by The Who with Entwistle's extended solo and just be blown away. John Entwistle was too good for this world.

TheImpossibleMan wrote: It depends on what you want out of your bass. There are some very, very good bands that got away with absurdly simple bass designs - The Doors and AC/DC are prime examples. Even if you've only been playing the bass 6 months, odds are you can tackle almost any bassline involved with either of those two bands. On the other hand, some bands have extremely difficult bass, or at least very challenging ones - Cream and Led Zeppelin generally had tough bass lines, for example (I still can't get the bass riff to "Ramble On" just right). It's really just a question of what you want. For some bands, it doesn't matter that the bass lines are simple - AC/DC doesn't give a shit if they rhythm section could be filled by unskilled 15 year olds, they're worried about Angus Young playing a powerful lead guitar. The Doors don't care if the bass line is simple, they're worried about Morrison's singing and the drum and organ solos. Likewise, Cream and Led Zeppelin wouldn't be half as good if Jack Bruce and John Paul Jones were just some bums. The biggest way a bassist can make his mark is by being a skilled live performer. Guys like John Entwistle and Jack Bruce are so remembered because they were brilliant soloists who often outshone the lead guitarist they were sharing the stage with. So, there's your answer. If you're just interested in doing a backbeat and letting the singer and guitarist do their thing, sure, the bass guitar is very easy. But if you're interested in actually establishing yourself as a skilled musician, then no, the bass is just as "difficult" as the guitar.

billycat wrote:

<font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: You people are absolutely nuts. If there's ONE bass-player in the world who is better than ANY other (and this is just electric bass, don't even get me STARTED on double-bass), it is without ANY DOUBT <font size = 6> JACO PASTORIUS</font>

Indeed. Jaco is probably one of the most amazing musical talents I've ever seen on any instrument. IMO, he was to the elctric bass what Hendrix was to the electric guitar. I think my favorite recording of him is on Joni Mitchells, Shadows and Light record. Other favorite bass players of mine: James Jamerson Tony Levin Mick Karn Marcus Miller Stanley Clarke Bryan Beller Michael Manring John Entwistle Paul McCartney John Paul Jones Doug Pinnick Prince (don't laugh, the guy is seriously talentled :-) Larry Graham Geddy Lee Kevin Gilbert Les Claypool Flea I'm sure there's many more...

TheOpposition. wrote: the master at work: link

iGSM wrote: Is that a Steinburger bass guitar?

billycat wrote:

<font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: You people are absolutely nuts. If there's ONE bass-player in the world who is better than ANY other (and this is just electric bass, don't even get me STARTED on double-bass), it is without ANY DOUBT <font size = 6> JACO PASTORIUS</font>

Indeed. Jaco is probably one of the most amazing musical talents I've ever seen on any instrument. IMO, he was to the elctric bass what Hendrix was to the electric guitar. I think my favorite recording of him is on Joni Mitchells, Shadows and Light record. Other favorite bass players of mine: James Jamerson Tony Levin Mick Karn Marcus Miller Stanley Clarke Bryan Beller Michael Manring John Entwistle Paul McCartney John Paul Jones Doug Pinnick Prince (don't laugh, the guy is seriously talentled :-) Larry Graham Geddy Lee Kevin Gilbert Les Claypool Flea I'm sure there's many more...

<B><font color=pink>Onelonelypussycat wrote:

TheImpossibleMan wrote: It depends on what you want out of your bass. There are some very, very good bands that got away with absurdly simple bass designs - The Doors and AC/DC are prime examples. Even if you've only been playing the bass 6 months, odds are you can tackle almost any bassline involved with either of those two bands. On the other hand, some bands have extremely difficult bass, or at least very challenging ones - Cream and Led Zeppelin generally had tough bass lines, for example (I still can't get the bass riff to "Ramble On" just right). It's really just a question of what you want. For some bands, it doesn't matter that the bass lines are simple - AC/DC doesn't give a shit if they rhythm section could be filled by unskilled 15 year olds, they're worried about Angus Young playing a powerful lead guitar. The Doors don't care if the bass line is simple, they're worried about Morrison's singing and the drum and organ solos. Likewise, Cream and Led Zeppelin wouldn't be half as good if Jack Bruce and John Paul Jones were just some bums. The biggest way a bassist can make his mark is by being a skilled live performer. Guys like John Entwistle and Jack Bruce are so remembered because they were brilliant soloists who often outshone the lead guitarist they were sharing the stage with. So, there's your answer. If you're just interested in doing a backbeat and letting the singer and guitarist do their thing, sure, the bass guitar is very easy. But if you're interested in actually establishing yourself as a skilled musician, then no, the bass is just as "difficult" as the guitar.

Are the basslines in Queen music difficult to you?

<B><font color=pink>Onelonelypussycat wrote:

TheImpossibleMan wrote: It depends on what you want out of your bass. There are some very, very good bands that got away with absurdly simple bass designs - The Doors and AC/DC are prime examples. Even if you've only been playing the bass 6 months, odds are you can tackle almost any bassline involved with either of those two bands. On the other hand, some bands have extremely difficult bass, or at least very challenging ones - Cream and Led Zeppelin generally had tough bass lines, for example (I still can't get the bass riff to "Ramble On" just right). It's really just a question of what you want. For some bands, it doesn't matter that the bass lines are simple - AC/DC doesn't give a shit if they rhythm section could be filled by unskilled 15 year olds, they're worried about Angus Young playing a powerful lead guitar. The Doors don't care if the bass line is simple, they're worried about Morrison's singing and the drum and organ solos. Likewise, Cream and Led Zeppelin wouldn't be half as good if Jack Bruce and John Paul Jones were just some bums. The biggest way a bassist can make his mark is by being a skilled live performer. Guys like John Entwistle and Jack Bruce are so remembered because they were brilliant soloists who often outshone the lead guitarist they were sharing the stage with. So, there's your answer. If you're just interested in doing a backbeat and letting the singer and guitarist do their thing, sure, the bass guitar is very easy. But if you're interested in actually establishing yourself as a skilled musician, then no, the bass is just as "difficult" as the guitar.

Are the basslines in Queen music difficult to you?

TheOpposition. wrote: the master at work: link

TheOpposition. wrote: Actually Adam has a reputation for being a really crap bassist. But if you enjoy his basslines thats all that matters; music is an individual thing.

Togg wrote: In answer to the original question, to play well it is bloody hard, don't be fooled into thinking if you just play the root note you can play bass. Like any instrument, if you want to play well it takes years of practice, anybody that tells you different, doesn't know what they are talking about.