diffner 20.03.2006 05:57 |
Witch is the most advanced Queen song to play on the piano? I think nevermore sounds hard to play, but then again, I'm no piano player |
gem27 20.03.2006 06:20 |
Death on two legs seems complicated but then I am no piano player either. |
Bohardy 20.03.2006 07:35 |
Definitely not Nevermore, by a long way. The intro of Death On Two Legs is perhaps even harder than it sounds, when you analyse the exact arpeggio pattern that Fred uses. It would seem natural (to me at least) to play quaver triplets, up and down the 4 note chords, but that's not what he does. But it's still not all that dificult. In all honesty, the one example of Fred's piano playing that I can't always play fluidly and up to speed is the left-hand boogie-woogie line that accompanies Bri's (guitar) solo in Bring Back That Leroy Brown. It's not really that complicated a figure to play, as it's just stock piano left-hand line for the kind of music that BBTLB flirts with, but it requires a very strong and rythmically precise left hand. |
val 29467 20.03.2006 08:41 |
mmm i think death on two legs, but seven seas of ryhe looks pretty difficult too |
JeroenG 20.03.2006 09:43 |
vallie wrote: mmm i think death on two legs, but seven seas of ryhe looks pretty difficult tooDeath On Two Legs can be played if you practice a little. Dont know about the exact appergio's in the beginning but the song itself it not really harder than avarage, when you have learned the riff. Seven Seas Of Rhye might look/sound difficult, but actually is not that hard at all. It's just fast, but not complicated. |
Sebastian 20.03.2006 10:12 |
Seven Seas is quite easy. DOTL intro, in the studio, is a different story from the one he played live. On stage he did a slightly different pattern that allowed him to play it easier and sometimes faster. But for the studio version he could have probably screwed up more than once if he ever tried it live (perhaps it's the same story for Love Of My Life solo in the middle). As far as I know, Freddie had to try endless times the DOTL intro in the studio until he finally nailed it. I agree with the Leroy Brown thing, it's a proof of his enviable rhythmic skills. Melancholy Blues is very easy to play per se, but the credit goes to the way he performed it (aka the much-commented "feeling" factor). The piano solo in 'My Fairy King' is one of his best as well as the harpsichord thing in 'Masterstroke'. |
john bodega 20.03.2006 10:14 |
Millionaire Waltz is by no means his most advanced piece, but it's great to listen to nonetheless. |
Bohardy 20.03.2006 10:41 |
Millionaire Waltz, as an entire song, is probably the most difficult piano piece. There are individual elements from other songs that are more difficult to play than anything in MW, yet the sheer relentlessness of the faster sections that feature Fred's quickly repeated chords and diads means that the song requires a hefty dose of concentration and physical effort to pull-off in its entirety. Again, the song showcases to an extent Fred's strengths in playing repeated notes and chords quickly, which requires strong hands and wrists, and rhythmic precision. |
TRS-Romania 20.03.2006 11:23 |
from a piano player view: I would say "Seven Seas Of Rhye" Just watch on Live at Wembley how bloody fast Freddie plays the intro ... I tried it, and succeeded BUT I couldnt play it for more than 5 minutes (complete numb muscles LOL!!!) .... The other one that is pretty "genious" is My Melancholy Blues ... Beautiful chords! I havent attempted to play it yet ! :) Boh Rhap has also some really difficult piano bits (try to play the opera bit on piano!) And the list goes on and on ... Stefan |
deleted user 20.03.2006 12:00 |
Yeah, Seven Seas of Ryhe looks/sounds hard. Especially when Freddie played it at Wembley, he was working up a sweat. |
billycat 20.03.2006 12:17 |
While it's maybe not the most difficult piano piece I always thought Don't Stop Me Now was amazing to see Freddie play and sing live. It's such a quick tempo and there are a lot of little varitions in how the piano accents work around the vocals and he pretty much nails it everytime I've heard them perform it live. It kind of reminds me of Freddie trying to do his best Elton John impersonation. :-) |
Bohardy 20.03.2006 12:20 |
Definitely not Seven Seas Of Rhye. Anyone with a fully functioning brain and hands cold be taught how to play that at about 90% tempo/accuracy within about 10 minutes. It just isn't hat difficult to play. It may look it and sound it, but it isn't. Fact. Fred overcomplicates his technique somehow when he plays it at Wembley. He's bouncing his fingers off the keys too much, meaning they have to move more quickly to get back down to the notes again, which ultimately means that although his fingers and hands are moving quickly, the notes aren't being played as fast as they appear to be. |
sdferertg 20.03.2006 12:31 |
The piano in Don't Stop Me Now is just brilliant. Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant. 3 times Brilliant. Even more. But it is, really :p Cheers GaLiLe0 |
Micrówave 20.03.2006 13:36 |
GaLiLe0 wrote: The piano in Don't Stop Me Now is just brilliant. Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant. 3 times Brilliant. Even more. But it is, really :p Cheers GaLiLe0I agree... unless you're singing it too! |
Micrówave 20.03.2006 13:37 |
I think Freddie's original Your Kind Of Lover is quite difficult to maintain tempo and hit the right runs. |
habalushy 20.03.2006 15:19 |
how about Jealousy (Jazz album) i am a piano player and the piano is not greatly advanced but it is difficult |
jcrawford79 20.03.2006 15:26 |
Bohardy wrote: Definitely not Seven Seas Of Rhye.I agree with you. I always found this easy to play, even early on when I hadn't been playing for very long. Hardest for me is intro to Death On Two Legs, as someone mentioned earlier. Don't Stop Me Now is somewhat difficult too, but in a different kind of way. The syncopated piano part during the verses was difficult for me to grasp at first. |
jcrawford79 20.03.2006 15:28 |
Bohardy wrote: Fred overcomplicates his technique somehow when he plays it at Wembley. He's bouncing his fingers off the keys too much, meaning they have to move more quickly to get back down to the notes again, which ultimately means that although his fingers and hands are moving quickly, the notes aren't being played as fast as they appear to be.He always seemed to do that. His technique for striking the keys was very odd. It made all of piano playing look harder than what it really was. |
it was electric7 20.03.2006 15:47 |
The Millionaire Waltz or Somebody To Love |
Forever88 20.03.2006 16:28 |
gem27 wrote: Death on two legs seems complicated but then I am no piano player either.its not. not at all, its very easy. |
Sergei. 20.03.2006 17:04 |
I tried to download Seven Seas of Rhye one time (the sheet music) and I thought I was nacho cheese and it would be a snapp since i've played since I was in the first grade. Pfft. Anyways, It got so frustrating I kicked the leg of my piano and it left a big scuff mark. Not that anyone noticed. My basement piano has been through hell on earth. But, still, a lesson that I have learned. Burned the sheet music in our fireplace later that day. |
smileexpert 20.03.2006 19:29 |
Alot of the stuff on JAZZ (in my view...someone who plays Piano) is quite challenging. Not so much note-wise, but rhythm and speedwise. Mustapha and Bicycle Race That and millionaire's Waltz. Death on 2 Legs isn't that bad, if you understand how the chords work at the beginning...I found out that the right-hand chords at the very beginning basically lie between two octave notes (d-flats?) that decend chromatically and the chord is filled in naturally as a result... if that makes any sense ? A. |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 20.03.2006 19:40 |
how about the piano solo on living on my own |
tunks91 20.03.2006 19:44 |
I think Lazing on a sunday afternoon sounds pretty hard, i also looked at the arrangement for it, and it looked tough |
tunks91 20.03.2006 19:45 |
Lazing On a Sunday afternoon sounds hard, and I looked at the sheet music for it and it looked hard |
M a t i a s M a y 20.03.2006 20:24 |
Love Of My Life is pretty hard. |
deleted user 20.03.2006 20:39 |
Bohardy wrote: Definitely not Seven Seas Of Rhye. Anyone with a fully functioning brain and hands cold be taught how to play that at about 90% tempo/accuracy within about 10 minutes. It just isn't hat difficult to play. It may look it and sound it, but it isn't. Fact. Fred overcomplicates his technique somehow when he plays it at Wembley. He's bouncing his fingers off the keys too much, meaning they have to move more quickly to get back down to the notes again, which ultimately means that although his fingers and hands are moving quickly, the notes aren't being played as fast as they appear to be.Sure it is (know it all) |
vonkeil 21.03.2006 01:50 |
hm.. i'd say "seaside rendezvous" & "lazing on a sunday afternoon". all this 20s-musical-related stuff is really tough if you're not used to it.. |
bohemian_killer_queen 21.03.2006 02:15 |
Seaside Rendevous Bohemian Rhapsody Don't Stope Me Now Death On Two Legs Seven Seas Of Rhye Thats wat i say, i know this cos i play and it is quite difficult to grasp at first but gets easier cos u noe wat the song should actually sound like. in seven seas he plays it so dam fast, somethin i look up to. |
bohemian_queer 22.03.2006 01:07 |
As a piano player, I'd like to put a word in. Most of the songs you guys are naming, aren't hard at all. D on 2L is like one chord for the whole piano introduction, Seaside is written in C major.. and is mostly based on chord inversions. 7SofR is simply a D tonic arpeggio and a D augmented arpeggio. That's mumbo jumbo for 2 different types of triads. It's really elementry. I will say that Don't Stop me Now is freaking hard. The reason is this: Freddie improved most of it, and the sheet music isn't the same as what he played at all. As for Boh Rap.. the operatic part is four tonic arpeggios.. not hard by any stretch of the imagination, but the "I see a little siloetto of a man" part is too fast for anybody's hands to go and be accurate. Mostly the songs you guys are naming off just sound flashy. They want you to think it's hard. Looks like they accomplished that goal. I think that My Melancholy Blues is challenging. And from my best guess, Millionaire Waltz is pretty tough, at least the way Freddie played it... *sigh* :-) |
Sebastian 22.03.2006 14:03 |
> Alot of the stuff on JAZZ (in my view...someone who plays Piano) is quite challenging. Not so much note-wise, but rhythm and speedwise. I agree. Jazz album + tour were great piano moments for Freddie. And almost every song on the album has got some interesting rhythmic tricks. > Death on 2 Legs isn't that bad, if you understand how the chords work at the beginning...I found out that the right-hand chords at the very beginning basically lie between two octave notes (d-flats?) that decend chromatically and the chord is filled in naturally as a result... Not so much, but as Bohardy said, it's not that much the chord progression (which is very interesting however), but the unusual pattern Fred applied (in the studio version). Live he did an easier approach that allowed him not to screw up, and to play it even faster. > how about the piano solo on living on my own Outside Freddie's abilities. It was done by Mr Mandel. > I think Lazing on a sunday afternoon sounds pretty hard, i also looked at the arrangement for it, and it looked tough The hardest part is to play it so effortlessly and sing at the same time. As in most of Freddie's piano parts (Melancholy Blues is another) his merit is for "feeling" rather than the notes per se. > Love Of My Life is pretty hard. Indeed. That's one of those that I doubt he could have performed live. > all this 20s-musical-related stuff is really tough if you're not used to it.. Agree. For instance, Brian May's piano technique was more than enough for playing those, but not his rhythm. > Most of the songs you guys are naming, aren't hard at all. Of course not if you compare them with Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. If you compare them to John Lennon or Axl Rose, they're like Rachmaninov :) > D on 2L is like one chord for the whole piano introduction No way. > Seaside is written in C major.. and is mostly based on chord inversions. It's not the notes that are difficult, but the whole feeling. You And I falls into that as well imo. > I will say that Don't Stop me Now is freaking hard. The reason is this: Freddie improved most of it, and the sheet music isn't the same as what he played at all. Agreed. The way he changes his mood and expresses it while at the same time keeping a perfect rhythm is rather nice. > I think that My Melancholy Blues is challenging. Not the notes but the loose feel. And the fact Fred did it with perfect tempo (inner metronome) and he sang at the same time. |
LadyMoonshineDown 22.03.2006 14:40 |
-Intro to Death On Two Legs -Love Of My Life -Millionaire Waltz Cheers |
diffner 22.03.2006 16:49 |
> Most of the songs you guys are naming, aren't hard at all. Of course not if you compare them with Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. If you compare them to John Lennon or Axl Rose, they're like Rachmaninov :) Do u mean that axl Rose and lennon are shitty piano players? |
LadyMoonshineDown 22.03.2006 17:26 |
diffner wrote: > Most of the songs you guys are naming, aren't hard at all. Of course not if you compare them with Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. If you compare them to John Lennon or Axl Rose, they're like Rachmaninov :) Do u mean that axl Rose and lennon are shitty piano players?John Lennon could play piano, but it's not like it was his main forte. Wakeman is awesome; he also played on Bowie's "Hunky Dory" album. For exceptional playing, see the song "Kooks." Cheers |
bohemian_queer 22.03.2006 20:40 |
D on 2L is like one chord for the whole piano introduction No way.Way! I'm not talking about his crazy arpeggio thing. That's not in the sheet music. I'm talking about the (right hand's) inverted B minor chord: d, fsharp, b, respectivly. The left hand does it's thing, but right stays the same. |
Sebastian 22.03.2006 21:09 |
About DOTL: all right, if you mean the second intro, then of course I agree. I don't mean Lennon and Axl were shitty piano players, they were nice, just as nice as a VW Beetle. But Freddie would then be a Ferrari. And Fred Mandel would be an Airbus and Wakeman a spaceship. And Roger Taylor would be a bicycle :) |
LadyMoonshineDown 22.03.2006 22:19 |
Sebastian wrote: About DOTL: all right, if you mean the second intro, then of course I agree. I don't mean Lennon and Axl were shitty piano players, they were nice, just as nice as a VW Beetle. But Freddie would then be a Ferrari. And Fred Mandel would be an Airbus and Wakeman a spaceship. And Roger Taylor would be a bicycle :)Heh heh. Nice correlation. Billy Joel is another great pianist. Cheers |