| Bobby_brown 07.03.2006 13:41 |
You can read in the queen news sestion on BM soapbox that the new DVD will include new interviews of the Three members of Queen. I know that it can be a mistake, but until then i think there´s a possibility of a new John interview. Take care |
| .DeaconJohn. 07.03.2006 13:46 |
That would be amazing, but won't happen. I wonder if the 'third member' being referred to is Paul Rogers? |
| Serry... 07.03.2006 13:49 |
I think they meant new interviews with Brian and Roger... |
| john bodega 07.03.2006 14:29 |
This is something I've never understood. George Harrison was the classic 'recluse', yet he didn't seem to have any problems giving *exhaustive* amounts of interview material for the Anthology. WHY THE HELL does that *blob* Deacon go on collection paychecks while showing absolutely no interest in Queen anymore? I'm not talking about Q+PR either. For a moment I'll pretend I hate the idea. The fact is he could still make himself useful in interviews and commentaries! I dunno. It's frustrating is all, I hope he enjoys his well earned retirement, but this kind of behaviour is antithetical, to me at least. |
| Bobby_brown 07.03.2006 19:52 |
Serry... wrote: I think they meant new interviews with Brian and Roger...Yes, you're probably right. I didn't read the oficial press release. I read this one from the rockradio in the soapbox: "As reported by link Queen's landmark 1975 album A Night At The Opera will be the subject of the next DVD in the Classic Albums series. The disc, which comes out on March 21st, was produced in cooperation with guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor. It includes new interviews with May, Taylor, retired Queen bassist John Deacon, producer Roy Thomas Baker, and admirers such as Aerosmith's Joe Perry, ex-Mott The Hoople frontman Ian Hunter, and Nuno Bettencourt of Extreme..." Well, i guess JD isn't talking this time either! I respect his decision but this i don't understand. Not even an interview for this masterpiece album? What's wrong with him? I've seen people retiring but this is another level (to say the least). Take care |
| Munchsack 08.03.2006 12:33 |
I read that ther IS an interview with Deaky, and it mentioned him BY NAME, so it must be. Can't remember where, though. |
| Mr Mercury 08.03.2006 13:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote: This is something I've never understood. George Harrison was the classic 'recluse', yet he didn't seem to have any problems giving *exhaustive* amounts of interview material for the Anthology. WHY THE HELL does that *blob* Deacon go on collection paychecks while showing absolutely no interest in Queen anymore? I'm not talking about Q+PR either. For a moment I'll pretend I hate the idea. The fact is he could still make himself useful in interviews and commentaries! I dunno. It's frustrating is all, I hope he enjoys his well earned retirement, but this kind of behaviour is antithetical, to me at least.He continues to collect paychecks for the work he did do as a part of Queen namely, all those songs he wrote and all those he performed on. And he is quite correct to do so in my opinion. |
| Micrówave 08.03.2006 13:46 |
and you WOULDN'T collect? yeah right! |
| Adam Baboolal 08.03.2006 14:52 |
I believe the point Zebonka was making is this... JD gets what he is due from royalties and what-not, but doesn't seem to bother to allow an interview or appearance now and then. It's a shame for the fans. However, we all understand that JD is a shy reclusive type that wants to just hide away. Fair enough. But there are some things that he should try and do, e.g. classic albums. Otherwise, the fans miss out on his input on these matters. It'd be great to hear from him in an interview. Peace, Adam. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 08.03.2006 19:38 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: I believe the point Zebonka was making is this... JD gets what he is due from royalties and what-not, but doesn't seem to bother to allow an interview or appearance now and then. It's a shame for the fans. However, we all understand that JD is a shy reclusive type that wants to just hide away. Fair enough. But there are some things that he should try and do, e.g. classic albums. Otherwise, the fans miss out on his input on these matters. It'd be great to hear from him in an interview. Peace, Adam.Totally agreed Adam. It must piss Brian and Roger off to some point too. |
| Togg 09.03.2006 04:09 |
Whilst it would indeed be nice, it's not like he owes it to the fans, if he has decided to retire why the hell should he have to do anything, and the royalties are in effect his pension (not that he would need it) but once you retire then frankly you should be allowed to do what you want with your time. If he didn't like speaking in public and doing intervies when he was working, I don't think there is much chance of he doing it in retirement. |
| Serry... 09.03.2006 04:55 |
John doesn't force Brian and Roger to make tours, play songs and make stupid musicals, why they have to piss off about his retirement?! |
| john bodega 09.03.2006 06:54 |
"and you WOULDN'T collect? yeah right!" It's *lazy*. He's not retirement age yet. If I were in his position I'd still be doing stuff! |
| TheGame 09.03.2006 11:55 |
Seems to me JD is trying to forget/ignore is past. You can't run from it, so start live with it JD. Such a shame he can't even give an interview or comment regrding this classic. |
| Bobby_brown 09.03.2006 13:48 |
Togg wrote: Whilst it would indeed be nice, it's not like he owes it to the fans, if he has decided to retire why the hell should he have to do anything, and the royalties are in effect his pension (not that he would need it) but once you retire then frankly you should be allowed to do what you want with your time. If he didn't like speaking in public and doing intervies when he was working, I don't think there is much chance of he doing it in retirement.He doesn't owes anything to the fans, but he could try and do something for the thing he helped creating! Those interviews are very personal, he doesn't have to worry about anything (it's not tabloids or something). But while he refuses to do so, we have Nuno Bettencourt and Joe Perry guiving interviews for this release, so i think it would be nice for him to do the same. Even with the re-releases of the movies in DVD we have new interviews from actors, directors, etc, after 20 years. I know that he must have a very good reason, but retirent isn't the one! Take care |
| kdj2hot 09.03.2006 19:02 |
Bobby_brown wrote:First of all who said JOhn isn't being interviewed? I haven't read anything that excluded him. The only source used says there's a new interview from him. As simple as that, until otherwise noted we should continue with that in mind.Togg wrote: Whilst it would indeed be nice, it's not like he owes it to the fans, if he has decided to retire why the hell should he have to do anything, and the royalties are in effect his pension (not that he would need it) but once you retire then frankly you should be allowed to do what you want with your time. If he didn't like speaking in public and doing intervies when he was working, I don't think there is much chance of he doing it in retirement.He doesn't owes anything to the fans, but he could try and do something for the thing he helped creating! Those interviews are very personal, he doesn't have to worry about anything (it's not tabloids or something). But while he refuses to do so, we have Nuno Bettencourt and Joe Perry guiving interviews for this release, so i think it would be nice for him to do the same. Even with the re-releases of the movies in DVD we have new interviews from actors, directors, etc, after 20 years. I know that he must have a very good reason, but retirent isn't the one! Take care Regardless it's ignorant to say it's lazy. Do you know the way he spends his days? I doubt you do. Who says he's lazy. He shouldn't be forced to participate in anything he doesn't want to do. As simple as that. Not only is it wrong to put him in that position and would hurt the product because he probably wouldn't come across as sincere if he really didn't want to do it. |
| john bodega 10.03.2006 11:30 |
"Do you know the way he spends his days?" He drinks tea and watches One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest. I also hear he's very fond of cardigan shopping (mostly beige cardigans though). |
| Gr8 King Rat 10.03.2006 12:30 |
From what i hear he doesnt even write messages for the Queen fan club magazine anymore... I can understand John NOT wanting to tour...but he cant even write a letter to his fans a few times a year? Come on...he just doesnt give a shit anymore. |
| PieterMC 10.03.2006 13:02 |
John does not owe anybody anything... |
| Gr8 King Rat 10.03.2006 13:40 |
PieterMC wrote: John does not owe anybody anything...You're 100% right.... But in doing so, I think he's a jerk. I dont know how anyone else feels. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.03.2006 13:53 |
Why anyone gives John Deacon flak is beyond me. Maybe John is the only one of the three with any dignity left? Maybe he thinks the musical is embarassing? Maybe he thinks doing collaborations with everybody and their dog is wrong? Maybe he thinks that re-recording classic songs is wrong? Maybe he thinks Queen died on November 24/91? None of us know this. If we give credit to Brian and Roger for following their instincts, surely we have to do the same for John? Retired is retired, and he's not compromising. |
| Adam Baboolal 10.03.2006 18:28 |
But retired doesn't have to mean as good as dead. Never to be seen or heard of. Sad really. Peace, Adam. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.03.2006 22:54 |
To plau Devil's advocate, Adam, as I know you're an intelligent muso, if you work for a studio for 30 years, should you be forced to come back into the studio when you retire because every new band wants you to? Or are you entitled to retire on YOUR terms? The argument of "who Queen are" has been beaten to death on this board. If John feels that Queen were him, Roger, Brian and Freddie, maybe it actually sickens him to see the current incarnation on the road acting as Queen. I accept that. I think others should appreciate his contributions to the greatest band in history, and let him do what he wants, not what we want him to do. |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 03:45 |
"I think others should appreciate his contributions to the greatest band in history, and let him do what he wants, not what we want him to do." Buh whatever. I'm not saying I want him to run out onto stage (while covered in flames) and thump out Another One Bites the Dust at 300bpm in a surprise appearance. I'm saying he's being a TOTAL douche because turning up for the odd interview is not hard work. Retired people do this stuff all the time. That's not 'enjoying his well earned retirement'. That's being obtuse and lazy. |
| Serry... 11.03.2006 04:40 |
We can't say something bad about PR, but we always are glad to put John's name in shit... OMG... |
| Adam Baboolal 11.03.2006 05:48 |
BHM0271, I never said anything about him doing anything with Queen or anything else musical. I just meant that, like Zeb says, an interview doesn't cost a person much. Just one interview in the right situation would be great, no? And Serry, a quick visit to the General Discussion forum shows how wrong you are with that comment. Peace, Adam. |
| Serry... 11.03.2006 06:36 |
Quick visit to General Discussion shows me how everyone blame one person for his anti-PR topics and how everyone defends Rog, Bri and Paul and their RIGHT to do everything what they wanna do. When John doesn't gives interviews - we call him a lazy money grabber and douche. (When I wrote that Brian changes song credits to Queen songs someone called Bobby_Brown asked to ban me from QZ even!) |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 08:50 |
"Quick visit to General Discussion shows me how everyone blame one person for his anti-PR topics and how everyone defends Rog, Bri and Paul and their RIGHT to do everything what they wanna do. When John doesn't gives interviews - we call him a lazy money grabber and douche." Serry, you're totally in the wrong. I didn't make 12 topics entitled "John Deacon is a piece of shit". I am just saying, I think that while he's retired, it really wouldn't hurt anyone (least of all himself) to do the odd interview. BPP does not articulate his opinion or even try to come across as serious. He spams, he makes multiple accounts. That you would compare those in this thread with that utter *moron* is kinda confusing. The fact is - he *IS* lazy, it's his right, fair enough, more power to him - I WISH HIM WELL. But I just happen to think that's shithouse, much the same as you think this thread is shithouse - and you're welcome to comment on it. |
| dougie 11.03.2006 08:58 |
For all we know, John Deacon may keep himself busier nowadays than he did during his latter years with Queen. Whatever he's doing now, he has moved on. Why can't Queen fans do the same? |
| Serry... 11.03.2006 09:00 |
"I think that while he's retired, it really wouldn't hurt anyone (least of all himself) to do the odd interview." This is what you could say instead of talking about collection of paychecks, douches etc. Someone called him a jerk in this thread. But if I will say that I don't like when Brian using Queen name - Jesus, what will starts here...! |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.03.2006 09:18 |
That's an excellent point Serry about the use of the Queen name. Brian's position is that he gave 20 years of his life to Queen, who is anyone to tell him otherwise. I'd state that a lot of people feel that Brian May and Roger Taylor are 1/2 of Queen, and while the use of the name has lead to much heated debate on this board, people respect Brian's right to use it. Yet John gave 20 years of his life also, and we can't allow him to make his choices? It's what WE want him to do, not what he wants to do that gets people riled up. As for comments about him being a jek and a douchebag, childishness and unintelligent debate will continue on this board and others forever. |
| Bobby_brown 11.03.2006 09:27 |
Serry... wrote: (When I wrote that Brian changes song credits to Queen songs someone called Bobby_Brown asked to ban me from QZ even!)Now and then you're bringuing this subject to the board. I know you've got offended by what i've written and i apologised to you. But it seems that they weren't accepted! The thing is, if you go and read all that topic again, would you write tha same thing again about Brian, with the exact words?- Wouldn't you change the way you expressed yourself in that situation? I admit my mistake, because i know i was a little rough with you and Brenski, but i think that you and Brenski were too rough with Brian and the credits issue. If you look at the "Return of the Champions" CD you'll notice that IWIA is credit to Queen, so maybe on "Greatest Hits 2" there was a mistake. Or maybe Brian reads Queenzone and couldn't handle the pressure!! I try not to be desrespectfull to anybody, and i admit that in that topic i just lost it completely but that's not going to happen again! Now with John Deacon i try not to be desrespectull to him, because he must have a very good reason, but retirement isn't a good reason at all. If Brian says that he's suportive with the things they´re doing then it can't be that too. My point is, it's better be a very good reason other than "i´ve retired", because we have other people that don't have nothing to do with Queen and accepted to do the interviews to this release. If John has a problem dealing with people, or being too reclusive then i think he should get some professional help, because that can turn into a very bad desease (like depression, fears, etc). But while Roger says he has become reclusive, he appears to be having a great time in the Strip-Clubs (and it's not my business at all). As i said before, it's not like he's being interviewd for Tabloids. But i guess i just going to wait for the DVD and see (maybe i can be wrong. If that's the case, then "hail to John.." Take care |
| Serry... 11.03.2006 10:31 |
I didn't name Brian a total douche/jerk/money grabber or something like that, I didn't say that he needs in professional help of doctor, I didn't insult him at all. I didn't say that you offended me - I just wrote that we can't say something bad about PR, about the recent tour - otherwise people will ask to ban me, or advice "get a life!", "fuck yourself!", "get over it!", but to name Queen's bassist as a jerk, because he doesn't want to give interview - hey, man, it's so easy and funny! That's the difference. P.S. "but retirement isn't a good reason at all" - for whom? For you? I don't think that 55 years old man need in someone's advices about what he should and must to do and about his reasons to do so or not. |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 14:00 |
"As for comments about him being a jek and a douchebag, childishness and unintelligent debate will continue on this board and others forever." Oh blah blah, look - when someone shuts out the rest of the world, it can look plain silly and they (perhaps unknowingly) open themselves up to a world of bullshit. IT HAPPENS - for someone bemoaning childish behaviour, you're exhibiting a truckload of it (with a spoonful of naivety to boot). You are defending his right to a private life. Therefore you are also defending our right to say "WHAT THE HELL? Just one interview every ten years wouldn't hurt?". It's that simple. I mean it really doesn't bother me. Most of his interviews were just him going "I've got no plans" or "I wasn't there, I was on holiday". But all the same. I think he's just one of those people who can't handle affection or something - it's the only reason one would possibly turn their back on their audience. Either that or he's ashamed of his hair loss? Anyway. Take it easy John Deacon, and all ye in this thread. You may take it all very personally but I won't. :D |
| Bobby_brown 11.03.2006 17:16 |
Serry... wrote: I didn't name Brian a total douche/jerk/money grabber or something like that, I didn't say that he needs in professional help of doctor, I didn't insult him at all. I didn't say that you offended me - I just wrote that we can't say something bad about PR, about the recent tour - otherwise people will ask to ban me, or advice "get a life!", "fuck yourself!", "get over it!", but to name Queen's bassist as a jerk, because he doesn't want to give interview - hey, man, it's so easy and funny! That's the difference. P.S. "but retirement isn't a good reason at all" - for whom? For you? I don't think that 55 years old man need in someone's advices about what he should and must to do and about his reasons to do so or not.We're just talking, and i agree that we shouldn't be disrespectfull to John either, and certainly sometimes we just say certain things because of the frustation!- The thing is -"We wan't to see John"- and that's it. Of course we have to respect, and of course a 55 year old man doesn't need aproval for his behaviour, but 55yo it's not old at all (by the way he's been retired since 44 years old). I just hope that he's fine and healthy, because the last time that one Queen member got reclusive we all know what happened. Now,he writes Brian and Roger saying he suports them and that he "doesn't want to be involved". Based on this and supposing that everything is alright with him, i say that this feels very bad in the picture. And when i say that he must seek medical help, i'm not kidding at all. Both Brian and Roger stated the he doesn't like people around him, and this can really turn into a bad desease like depression and fears of all kinds. Even for the fans he doesn't talk, and now we have E-Mail, he doesn't have to leave home. He can write it down for the fanclub mag. It wouldn't hurt!! He doesn't owe the fans nothing, but sometimes a gesture of apreciation feels very nice. That´s what life is all about! He just can't turn his back to Brian and Roger like that, because he really owes something to them- RESPECT. Respect for the musicians they are, respect for the name QUEEN, and respect for them to have accepted him in the band in 1971. So, in my opinion, he has all the right not to be in the tour and to turn his back to everything Queen do, but in doing so (just my opinion), i really think he's being desrespectfull for everything he helped to create! If you sometimes don't do what it's right, instead just do what you want , you may loose very precious moments and friendships in your live. To end this subject, when Pink Floyd reunited for Live8, Roger Waters agreed to join them to do the gig. Now, he did what was right for that situation because more people watched and more money was guiven to Gueldof. David Guilmour said that if they couldn't reconciliate for a situation like that, then... If in this same situation(a live8 reunion), john refuses to reunite, what would you think about him?- Would you respect his decision (based just on his will- not health problems), or would you think that sometimes we shouldn't just think about ourselves. This is a very strong example, just to say that sometimes it's not just about us, we can soft a little bit and not be too hard with some situations! There is a strong economy around Queen, and if he accepted be involved in the products (not the tour), then people would be more than happy to buy them, and it would be good for everybody. Take care |
| Deacons 1st Choice 11.03.2006 17:32 |
I think Roger said it best: "John is John..and will remain so" Bless em', wherever he is! |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.03.2006 18:06 |
So by stating that I think that it's wrong for people calling John a "jerk" and a "douchebag", I'm guilty of childish behavior? Dude, your argument is full of so many holes I don't where to begin. |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 22:04 |
"So by stating that I think that it's wrong for people calling John a "jerk" and a "douchebag", I'm guilty of childish behavior? Dude, your argument is full of so many holes I don't where to begin." Actually it was more a statement on your skills of comprehension. And as for 'holes'... dude, you're a walking a-hole. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.03.2006 23:46 |
I usually don't reply to shit like this, but given your level of maturity, zebonka12, if you stand by your comments that John's a "TOTAL douche" for not doing interviews, then I really feel sorry for you. As you grow older, you'll realize that insults and abusive language are the calling cards of the uneducated. You are entitled to believe John owes more to the fans, no questions asked. I'm entitled to believe he's given what he has to. But leave the schoolyard name calling to people who deserve it, this forum has enough wingnuts offering ridiculous posts, at least you're trying to contribute, just don't believe that calling a man a jerk and a douche because he isn't living life how you want him to is constructive. |
| Serry... 12.03.2006 01:31 |
"If in this same situation(a live8 reunion), john refuses to reunite, what would you think about him?- Would you respect his decision (based just on his will- not health problems), or would you think that sometimes we shouldn't just think about ourselves." John was in the same situation (though cases are different - PF members are alive, Queen's members - not all of them, and I don't think that people on PF forums were complaining "Shit, where's Syd?! Why he refused to play with them? Just one brief appearance!"). John played on Freddie's tribute, John played on MIH and John played on No-One But You - song which was dedicated to Freddie, Versace, Diana etc. He blessed musical, tour etc., he doesn't say his opinions about what Roger and Brian are doing otherwise there could be some troubles for them... And yes - I will respect any of his decisions as well as I respect Freddie's decision not to give interviews in his last years (c'mon, he could talk over the phone with press, couldn't he? For the fans' sake! What a money grabber, right?). And as well as I respect Brian's and Roger's decision to play live under "Queen" name - I don't like it, I don't accept it, but it's their band, not mine. |
| Adam Baboolal 12.03.2006 06:00 |
Serry... wrote: he doesn't say his opinions about what Roger and Brian are doing otherwise there could be some troubles for them...Trouble? What trouble? That's an assumption. Leave those at the door, please. Serry... wrote: And yes - I will respect any of his decisions as well as I respect Freddie's decision not to give interviews in his last years (c'mon, he could talk over the phone with press, couldn't he?Rubbish! Freddie disliked the press as he'd been burned a few times. That's why he didn't like giving interviews after a certain time. So, if there's something in the press pointing to a rumour on him being ill, he has even more reason to say no to an interview. Stop comparing these things that have nothing to do with John. Peace, Adam. |
| john bodega 12.03.2006 07:38 |
"I usually don't reply to shit like this, but given your level of maturity, zebonka12" Hahaha. Exactly what have you got to go on when formulating a statement like that? You've got maybe 3 pages worth of accumulated posts that I've littered on here in my *spare time*. What the heck would you know? "if you stand by your comments that John's a "TOTAL douche" for not doing interviews, then I really feel sorry for you." Well... I feel sorry for you. Many apologies, but the guy has the world on a freaking platter and he's sleeping in a tent somewhere where no one will find him. It is absolutely not *my* fault that he can't cope with anything. "As you grow older, you'll realize that insults and abusive language are the calling cards of the uneducated." No. They're high quality entertainment when you're not too stuck up to try them out once in a while. Who's the one having trouble here? Live a little, get out of the house, appreciate society for what it can be - and look up a certain wav file called "fuck.wav" on the internet, it runs about two minutes and it's a good laugh, and a solid indictment on the idea that swearwords and insults can't be fun. "You are entitled to believe John owes more to the fans, no questions asked." .. then whats the problem? And you've misunderstood. I never said he owed anyone anything. I said if I was in his place, I'd do the odd appearance or whatever - just because retirement (to me, a young person) does not appeal at all. Maybe when I've reached the lofty 50's like him, I'll understand it all a little better and want to retire and pick grapes in my spare time. For now, it just looks like bunk. "I'm entitled to believe he's given what he has to." Well that's the thing... as a bass player, I'd say he's pretty fucking special, he doesn't have to pissfart around with playing bass anymore. I said it'd be nice if he did the odd interview. The fact that you don't like the word 'douche', means nothing in this debate. "But leave the schoolyard name calling to people who deserve it" Done and done. "this forum has enough wingnuts offering ridiculous posts" Well... I'd appreciate the wingnuts more if they offered a bit of originality for a chance. 11 topics posted by BPP and his aliases just gets on my nuts like nothing else. "at least you're trying to contribute, just don't believe that calling a man a jerk and a douche because he isn't living life how you want him to is constructive." Hang on a sec, I'm gonna read this much-maligned 'douche' thing of mine... Hmmm. I've found a post where I called him a blob. And to me, there's no problem with that. It's a fair description of someone who sits around a lot - by my own standards, I'd call myself a blob (when I'm not doing other shit. If I took issue with everyone I met in public who walked up to me and called me Jesus upon seeing my hair, I'd be grey by now). You misunderstand. A lot of people throw insults around for fun. I only use words like 'blob' or 'douche' when I think someone's earned it, or an as exaggeration; and PRIMARILY with the understanding that the target of said 'insult' is FREE to return the favour. I don't do it just because John isn't here and can't fight back. I do so under the full assumption that he (or anyone else) may say whatever they see fit in response - as I am doing so to your post. I merely comment on the situation *as I see it* - looks like someone's being lazy. You merely comment on my posts *as you see them* - you've taken them to a level beyond Seriousness - heck, beyond REASON if you ask me. It's the goddamned internet, anything goes. We are, in essence, only doing the same thing. "I'm saying he's being a TOTAL douche because turning up for the odd interview is not hard work." Ok - suppose you were to delve into my private life for a minute - I'm a full |
| Serry... 12.03.2006 10:38 |
"Rubbish! Freddie disliked the press as he'd been burned a few times. That's why he didn't like giving interviews after a certain time." Rubbish! Freddie gave interviews in the 70s - though he hated the press in 70s - and if you listen to the bootlegs you'll hear what he said about press - Freddie gave interviews in the 80s, so you're totally wrong. And as I wrote - who cares about HIS reasons? Do you care? So why you don't care about John's? "So, if there's something in the press pointing to a rumour on him being ill, he has even more reason to say no to an interview." What do you know about John's reasons? "What trouble?" Have you read John's remark about WATC by Brian, Roger and Robbie? P.S. Calm down, Adam, calm down! |
| Adam Baboolal 12.03.2006 11:46 |
Serry... wrote: "Rubbish! Freddie disliked the press as he'd been burned a few times. That's why he didn't like giving interviews after a certain time." Rubbish! Freddie gave interviews in the 70s - though he hated the press in 70s - and if you listen to the bootlegs you'll hear what he said about press - Freddie gave interviews in the 80s, so you're totally wrong. And as I wrote - who cares about HIS reasons? Do you care? So why you don't care about John's? "So, if there's something in the press pointing to a rumour on him being ill, he has even more reason to say no to an interview." What do you know about John's reasons? "What trouble?" Have you read John's remark about WATC by Brian, Roger and Robbie? P.S. Calm down, Adam, calm down!You've totally reinterpreted what I wrote. Go back and read over again. Peace, Adam. P.S. Yes, John didn't like the WATC cover. But then, who did it hurt to know that? Brian and Roger didn't bat an eyelid at this. |
| Serry... 12.03.2006 12:31 |
Go back and read again what I wrote: "And as I wrote - who cares about HIS [Freddie's] reasons? Do you care? So why you don't care about John's?" "who did it hurt to know that? Brian and Roger didn't bat an eyelid at this." I don't know if they were pleased with that John's remark about their work. Brian seems as a guy who cares about such things, if you read his soapbox... |
| Cricket Nutter 12.03.2006 15:13 |
Deaky shouldn't HAVE to do any interview at all. Why should he? Just because Brian and Roger have decided to carry on playing after Freddie's death doesn't mean Deaky should come out of retirement to give an interview, whether this DVD is 100% Queen or not. Brian and Roger always fail to mention or give him credit for anything these days, or skim over the surface when he is mentioned anyway. Sure I'd love Deaky to do an interview, but he most likely won't, he wants to spend time with his family, and he considers a phase of his life over, simple as that. When people retire from their jobs, they don't walk back into the workplace several years later to do a little bit more work. I know its different when it comes to being in a band, and John is still in his early 50s, but its completely up to him, he shouldn't be criticised for not doing an interview at all. |
| Cricket Nutter 12.03.2006 15:20 |
It also amuses me when people say JD has a problem and needs help for being shy. Shy? He played to a billion people live on TV twice, occasionally singing backing, and once addressing the audience and the world. Contrary to popular belief, the "recluse" at Queen's partys was Brian, not John. Just because he wasn't wacky (for the lack of a better word) or doesn't want to give interviews doesn't mean he has a mental problem. Also BHM, big respect for everything you've said. |
| Adam Baboolal 12.03.2006 15:24 |
Serry... wrote: Go back and read again what I wroteBecause of this, I don't think I should post any further replies. Being misunderstood means that I cannot post a reply without it being misread by yourself and therefore, without my original meaning. Shame, as my original post said that I understood Deacon's wanting to shy away and accepted that. I just felt it was a shame for the fans. That's all. Peace, Adam. |
| john bodega 13.03.2006 07:12 |
"Shy? He played to a billion people live on TV twice, occasionally singing backing, and once addressing the audience and the world." If you *really* want to make him sound brave, why don't you include that time he exposed his balls to the entire crowd at Wembley. (There was a thread about the DVD concerning this... hahaha). Now THAT'S courage. I actually wouldn't past judgement on his mental state because I'm not his doctor. Brian strikes me as the most sentimental of the bunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if John Deacon avoids this caper because he misses Freddie or whatever. There'd be a lot of memories tied up in this line of work, I reckon... People forget, they always say 'I wish he'd play one last show'. He *DID* that, twice! We just weren't paying attention. I reckon he would've been better off finishing his live career at the Tribute Show, rather than that piddly thing they did with Elton John. If you can believe the guys in Pink Floyd, they chose to finish their association in a really big show at Live 8. That's a good exit. A guttural collaboration with Elton John isn't how I'd want to be remembered. (looking at Adam vs. Serry) I'm glad I'm not the only one having a hard time expressing myself here. |
| Cricket Nutter 13.03.2006 12:15 |
Did he really expose his balls I didn't know that! Haha. Yeh I think he should have finished up with the Tribute Concert. Since he did the Elton John thing I'd have liked him to have done Queen Day 2002 maybe, but meh, beggars can't be choosers. I'm glad you agree with me Zebonka |
| john bodega 13.03.2006 21:41 |
Indeed. I think it might've been a grander finish for his career, but if anything John Deacon doesn't look like someone who wants to appear grandiose, and that's admirable. That "fame" crap screws up a lot of people. He at least has the nuts to say 'meh that's enough for me'. But I still don't agree with his ideas about quitting *entirely*. It wouldn't be that hard to do the odd thing here and there... but hey, I suppose he's having fun! :D (I just watched a South Park episode about John Edward called "Biggest Douche in the Universe". Now THERE'S a douche). |
| Boy Thomas Raker 14.03.2006 11:07 |
Thanks for the kind words Cricket Nutter. |
| Cricket Nutter 14.03.2006 11:26 |
No probs BHM :-D Zebonka, yeh I'd personally like it if he did one or two things aswell, but I don't mind, without him, Queen just wouldn't have been as big, simple as that, therefore there would be less material. Would the FM Tribute Concert have been as big or important in history? No. Would so many people just be on this website? No. John was a reason Queen got so big, so I thank him for that and respect his wishes :-) |
| mattsmith 14.03.2006 14:42 |
John can do whatever he wants. There is NOTHING anyone can do about it. He is a very rich man, who wants to be out of the public eye and stay at home spending time with his wife and children. |
| john bodega 15.03.2006 08:08 |
Indeed. Understand... I called him a douche because I like him! Put like that, it makes little sense, but basically I'd like to hear more from the guy, he wrote a couple of me favourite songs. It really is, more than anything else, the voice of disappointment that says things like 'douche'. |
| Cricket Nutter 15.03.2006 12:10 |
Lol well this thread is pretty much dead now, because on Brian May's site, its said that interviews with Roger, Brian and Roy Thomas Baker aswell as archive interviews with Freddie Mercury are on the new ANATO DVD |
| john bodega 15.03.2006 21:02 |
Hahahahaha. That moots *that* idea. |
| zone 15.03.2006 22:10 |
Bull shit!You want to collect some pay cheques do some work .And don't think privately May and Taylor ant pissed at Deacon. |
| cmsdrums 16.03.2006 08:44 |
Deffo no new John interview - the recent competition to win the NATO DVD on QOL asked the question - "which member of Queen did not contribute to the Making of NATO" The answer is John, so there's obviously not even any archive interviews, let alone new ones - what a shame there isn;t even any old stuff from when he was a 'public figure'. |
| Lisser 16.03.2006 13:18 |
I'm not really surprised at all that John doesn't give any interviews now or make appearances. He never was much of an outgoing personality while participating in the band. My impression of him is that he's a quiet, introverted person. Given how rude the media and tabloids can and will be (look at the photo of him in the strip bar), I'd stay out of the lime light as much as possible also especially if it meant I could still make money not having to do anything. He did his time, made his mark, worked his work, and now he can relax and reap the benefits quietly and peacefully. I can't blame him even though I'd love to hear from him. If I were him, I'd not choose to make an appearance or give just one interview because then the pot will be stirred and everyone will keep begging and begging him to just give one more, just do one gig, etc. Even though his decision to stay out of the lime light is not the one I prefer he make, it is the wisest one in my opinion. Brian also has said many times that John was badly affected by Freddie's death. Maybe he's a deeply sentimental person and just can't allow himself to revisit those happy times when Freddie isn't there to share in it. Of course he did the tribute concert..he paid his respects and now wants to move on. It's ok and I don't think he's being lazy for making this decision. I don't think he's being selfish either. It's his life and he's got a family to spend time with. The world had him for over 20 years. |