AmeriQueen 04.03.2006 03:17 |
This is what Queen means to me: A new tour, a possiblility for a new setlist and show. What happens? They drop a couple of songs and add only two songs, one of them being some PR song I have never heard of. All of this after the promises of 70's material. It looks like I have a major feeling of dissapointment. Then I see that the one new Queen song is Dragon Attack. As a result, I can hardly freaking wait to hear Dragon Attack. The presence of that particular song(one of my all time favorites) is triple the emotion felt as any dissapointment I might have. Hurray for the new tour, and I pledge to myself that I will find a way to see another show before it ends in April. |
Shane Jazz 04.03.2006 03:33 |
Dragon Attack is indeed a welcome addition. I have always loved it live. But I figured its addition would come at the cost of a song such as Last Horizon or These are the Days (both of which I love), but did it have to be I Want it All that leaves? Please bring it back by next Friday! |
AmeriQueen 04.03.2006 04:11 |
I don't mind it leaving. Not because I Want It All isn't worthy, it is totally one of the very best. I just think it has been played less than the studio version(the exception to this is ironically the Sheffield show). What puzzles me is that they keep Radio Ga Ga in the mix. This son't is not a U.S. favorite, and one of the weakest of the big hits for Queen. I was surprised to see that Now I'm Here hasn't surfaced, but I think it's becase Paul knows at best it could still never come close to what Freddie did with it. I'm still waiting for White Man, the most PR suited song of Queen's catalogue. |
AmeriQueen 04.03.2006 07:06 |
If you know what it is I am about to be talking about, then you are on one hand, a Queen geek with far too much an obsession with the band, but also an intelligent person with superior musical taste. Here goes: Is anyone out there familiar with the early jump Brian made mistakingly(I assume) with Dragon Attack on the '81 Montreal, 'We Will Rock You' dvd. "... green's all green and from..." It's a guitar part played earlier than usual. Bottom line, that mistake perfected the song, and it, as minimal as it seems, mad Dragon one of my all time favorite live songs. It just has sucha smooth feel. |
snowdog212 04.03.2006 08:02 |
I start off saying im not the greatist Queen fan like alot of use on here.But I did see them with Freddie on the Jazz tour many yrs ago.That being said I was watching the blog of the setlist.Dissappointment is an understatement. It just seems they put no new effort in the setlist.It looks to me more like a money tour then a fan friendly tour. Im one of those who doesnt like to hear just the hits. I like obscure songs or more then a few new older songs that werent played last tour.They could have easily switched the setlist up instead of just moving songs around.And dont tell me some songs are hard to play now that there older. They are musicians who get paid well.Get into shape and they will be fine.And finally I can not believe they didnt play I WANT IT ALL Listening to ROC It is the best song on the cd and the best one Paul sings.Hopefully it will be back by the Buffalo date.Just my 2 cents worth |
YourValentine 04.03.2006 09:08 |
I am really curious to hear the Paul Rodgers rendition of Dragon Attack. I bet he did not know half of the words:) The song was always one of my favourite live songs. |
phoenix_surprise! 04.03.2006 10:07 |
Dragon Attack? My FAVORITE!!! I would never have expected to hear that!! Can't Wait. No I Want It All??? That is a huge loss. Why not both?? OK, all too many punctuations in this posting. |
Roy ® 04.03.2006 10:52 |
Great that they play Dragon Attack. Can't wait to hear it. |
All I Hear Is Radio Gaga 04.03.2006 17:25 |
I think that's great....i know it's only been one show so hopefully they add some old stuff...keeping my fingers crossed... |
wstüssyb 04.03.2006 18:45 |
Was sent a crappy 45 second clip from a cell phone. Sounded OK, with what little I heard of Pual, sounded like a karokee(sp) version =) also with a lack of bass, I think lack of bass is due to it being recorded on a cell. |
Just You and Me 05.03.2006 00:17 |
I'm still just bummed out that I won't be able to see them. |
Regor 05.03.2006 07:43 |
AmeriQueen wrote: If you know what it is I am about to be talking about, then you are on one hand, a Queen geek with far too much an obsession with the band, but also an intelligent person with superior musical taste. Here goes: Is anyone out there familiar with the early jump Brian made mistakingly(I assume) with Dragon Attack on the '81 Montreal, 'We Will Rock You' dvd. "... green's all green and from..." It's a guitar part played earlier than usual. Bottom line, that mistake perfected the song, and it, as minimal as it seems, mad Dragon one of my all time favorite live songs. It just has sucha smooth feel.Yep, Brian starts the bridge too early, but makes it an improptu - great moment, even though it is a mistake. I love the Montreal-Version, especially when Rog starts the groovy beat alone, without Bass and guitar accompanying it for about 2 bars, after coming from the hard-rock ending of NIH - it's such a great change of mood and atmosphere. Great version. And great addition to the Q+PR-setlist, can't wait to hear it someday. |
john bodega 05.03.2006 12:18 |
Perhaps I'm absolutely insane, but when I heard "US Tour" I was thinking songs like "White Man" or "Headlong". What the hell is this, with the dropping I Want It All??? FUCK! |
pcgenius9 05.03.2006 12:56 |
Who actually said there was going to be loads of 70s stuff?? |
Going Back 05.03.2006 13:20 |
pcgenius9 wrote: Who actually said there was going to be loads of 70s stuff??Roger Taylor |
Hankster 05.03.2006 14:25 |
does someone already has a recording of DA from Miami? |
DragonOnMyBack 06.03.2006 09:56 |
Glad to see the addition of Dragon Attack. Great Song, will be interesting to see/hear how Danny compares to John. Judging by AOBTD I think he will do a good job but it will take a lot to beat Deaky. When I was at the Birmingham NEC Show last year I swore I heard them practicing it during the warm up before the show. If it was DA then it sounded pretty good from outside. I was hoping it would turn up during the UK leg but looks like it took a bit longer for them to be happy with it. I too am a little disappointed that I Want it All has been dropped and now also Say It's Not True although that might come back. Maybe Roger just didn't feel up to singing it on the night. How did it go down in Miami? Maybe it didn't get the response they expected in Miami and decided to drop it. I did have a feeling it might go following Roger's comments about it during the Rockline radio interview, although Brian seemed keen to keep it in. maybe Seagull will come back :-) I do think more additions will be made as the tour continues. Just look at the European Tour. The early shows had less tracks than the later ones. The setlist grew with the introduction of Roger's Drum Solo, AOBTD, Under Pressure etc. I think there is room for at least two more songs in the main body of the show and another one in the encore, but they probably want to get settled in first. Only time will tell, but whatever the setlist I am sure I will enjoy the California shows. |
Kilpat1 06.03.2006 11:33 |
when say its not true was played in miami everyone got up and walked to bathroom and stuff people r classless |
goinback 06.03.2006 14:57 |
People do know Radio Ga-Ga more than I Want It All in the US by the way. Ga-Ga was at least a Top-40 single (and seen at Live-Aid). I Want It All was an FM hit from almost 20 years ago.... |
Going Back 06.03.2006 15:38 |
I Want It All and Radio GaGa should both be in the setlist, both are exellent songs |
Jan78 06.03.2006 16:53 |
So what do you want? I'm just wondering, because some say things like "Radio GaGa wasn't a big hit over here, so they shouldn't play it.", meaning that US hits should be played. Others want songs to be played that are basically unknown to the general public. So what should they do to please everyone? Re-enact a tour setlist from 1978 and add a few bits from The Miracle and Innuendo? Jan |
AmeriQueen 06.03.2006 22:30 |
The point about Radio Ga Ga by fact, is that it's not a well-known American track. The opinion(mine that is) is that it is one of the weaker songs ever to be released as a single. So, for that reason, I wish they would either play a better received hit, or use the spot open for another more obscure album track that is both a better song, and better suited for the tour. To me the most intriguing thing about this track live is the curiosity as to how many concert patrons will do the overhand clap/video thing. Thoes that do, identify themselves as true Queen fans, kind of like those who sing 'Love of my Life'. Ultimately with this point, if you are going to get rid of 'A Kind of Magic' because this is the USA, then please do the same with 'Ga Ga' because the reasons are just as relevant, but the song isn't, to me, nearly as good as 'Magic'. I think of all the 80's hits, 'I Want To Break Free' would be the most keepable, because in spite of it's early reception(due to the video), I think it has grown as a more well received later Queen track. I still want to see Paul do 'Prophet Song' just for shits and giggles. |
teleman 07.03.2006 01:13 |
AmeriQueen wrote: The point about Radio Ga Ga by fact, is that it's not a well-known American track. The opinion(mine that is) is that it is one of the weaker songs ever to be released as a single. So, for that reason, I wish they would either play a better received hit, or use the spot open for another more obscure album track that is both a better song, and better suited for the tour. To me the most intriguing thing about this track live is the curiosity as to how many concert patrons will do the overhand clap/video thing. Thoes that do, identify themselves as true Queen fans, kind of like those who sing 'Love of my Life'. Ultimately with this point, if you are going to get rid of 'A Kind of Magic' because this is the USA, then please do the same with 'Ga Ga' because the reasons are just as relevant, but the song isn't, to me, nearly as good as 'Magic'. I think of all the 80's hits, 'I Want To Break Free' would be the most keepable, because in spite of it's early reception(due to the video), I think it has grown as a more well received later Queen track. I still want to see Paul do 'Prophet Song' just for shits and giggles.I think the audience will be surprisingly receptive to some of their 80s material. Considering the sales of GH2 I'm sure enough people know Radio GaGa, Magic etc. I want to be part of the audience for Radio GaGa even though it is not one of my favourites just for the audience participation. |
Going Back 07.03.2006 08:37 |
I'm sorry don't know much about what songs were on USA big hits, but any songs like ,,miracle, scandal, innuendo, headlong, breakthru, a winters tale, heaven for everyone, let me live'' weren't hits? any of them maybe? |
Boy Thomas Raker 07.03.2006 09:27 |
I would hazard a guess that no one but die hard Queen fans would know any of those songs, Going Back. You have to remember, Queen ruled the US at the time of The Game. Hot Space was a big mistake that alienated their fans, but once they entered their synth/pop era, Queen virtually disappeared from rock radio in North America. I think in Europe, Queen is loved a pop/rock band, where their later stuff is as well received as their early stuff. In North America, it's the opposite where people hate everything from AKOM on. |
goinback 07.03.2006 21:06 |
Going Back: "Headlong" was an FM radio hit (got a decent amount of airplay on rock stations) but wasn't a Top 40 single. So many of Queen's songs are like this (especially some '70s album tracks) that I wish they'd make an "FM Hits" compilation or something (with a more creative title of course!)...all the songs people know but aren't actual Top 40 singles. I doubt non-Queen fans in the US would have ever heard any of those other songs at all. |
We Are The Champions 09.03.2006 10:47 |
BHM 0271 wrote: I would hazard a guess that no one but die hard Queen fans would know any of those songs, Going Back. You have to remember, Queen ruled the US at the time of The Game. Hot Space was a big mistake that alienated their fans, but once they entered their synth/pop era, Queen virtually disappeared from rock radio in North America. I think in Europe, Queen is loved a pop/rock band, where their later stuff is as well received as their early stuff. In North America, it's the opposite where people hate everything from AKOM on.I agree with your points especially about The Game period. This album spawned two No1 singles in the US and the Hot Space album buried their career. They have always been more popular in Europe since the early 80's with their more pop/synth approach. In a nut shell, Queen were more of an albums band/rock band in the 70's (they're best decade in my opinion) and became more of a singles/ video band in the eighties as they changed their style to match the times. Innuendo is the only album from the 80's-90's period that is anything like their classic albums of the seventies like Queen 2, SHA, NATO, ADATR, NOTW so in a way they're a victim of their changing style especially in the US. What's probably saved Brian & Roger from possible total humiliation other than die-hard Queen fans and insatiable curiosity,is the fact that Paul Rodgers and Bad Company are well known in the US so his fans will turn up to see him regardless. Using the name Queen has put more bums on seats as with the European tour. It's more of a draw than Roger, Brian and Paul Rodgers that's for sure!! Brian May has been a support act for Guns'n'Roses in the US so this proves my point. |
zone 09.03.2006 17:25 |
Let's take out Love of my life [Great song, but it does't work in the US and CANADA.]Say it's not true can go,and let's do Now I'm Here and Somebody To Love. |