| latina 03.03.2006 15:36 |
What's good in that chromatic piece of shit? No creativity in it at all! Fast??? The speed can easily be produced in studio... Sometimes Brian really sucks. |
| latina 03.03.2006 15:53 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:Dear Linda,fantasma wrote: Sometimes Brian really sucks.Sometimes I wonder if people here are actually Queen fans. Yup, sometimes he is great but sometimes he really sucks, ie. We Will Rock You. (The solo is alright, but the rest is too dumb) |
| brENsKi 03.03.2006 15:55 |
surely people are allowed to criticise eh Linda? it is a simple song....and anyhow....you surely can't love everything queen did? that woudl show either blinkered loyalty beyond the realms of comprehension...or an aural taste bypass |
| deleted user 03.03.2006 17:02 |
HEY watch what you say about Brian, he rocks end of, okay???? |
| Sherwood Forest 03.03.2006 17:04 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:hey linda, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Just because they dont love everything about someone or something doesnt mean that they arent a "real fan."fantasma wrote: Sometimes Brian really sucks.Sometimes I wonder if people here are actually Queen fans. As for me, I love the solo, it gets me going. Its still amazing how he did it even though its like 6 different guitar parts |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 03.03.2006 17:20 |
I think the guitar solo on that rocks!! |
| mywaywrestling 03.03.2006 17:48 |
it isn't as good as most of his other solos' but it doesn't suck either... |
| deleted user 03.03.2006 18:48 |
I love Brian's guitar solos! Invisible Man solo is great!! sounds well complicated...duno how the hell he does it :S god i wish i could play like him! |
| flash! 28068 04.03.2006 07:35 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:I was thinking exactly the same. If you don't like it, deal with it. Alot of members have the odd song they're not particularly keen on.... but there is no need to shun their work with aggression, dear.fantasma wrote: Sometimes Brian really sucks.Sometimes I wonder if people here are actually Queen fans. |
| john bodega 04.03.2006 11:41 |
Yes well the topic starter is entitled to being wrong. Er, I meant 'having an opinion'. Whoops! |
| Munchsack 04.03.2006 13:39 |
What is so great about the WWRY guitar part? It's OK, but TIM solo ROCKS! |
| jimmy sexton 04.03.2006 13:58 |
luv it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| deleted user 04.03.2006 14:13 |
I think the solo is brilliant and one of his best. It's so fast and it's great. |
| latina 04.03.2006 14:49 |
<font color=Orange>A Winter's Tale wrote: I think the solo is brilliant and one of his best. It's so fast and it's great.Hi, Well...it's fast...but has he ever played it live? In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine. What is great in this solo? half notes up and down...that's it...like a baby does when you give a guitar to it. |
| latina 04.03.2006 15:01 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:Dear Linda,<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: surely people are allowed to criticise eh Linda? it is a simple song....and anyhow....you surely can't love everything queen did? that woudl show either blinkered loyalty beyond the realms of comprehension...or an aural taste bypassActually, I do love everything Queen did. That makes me a stepford, or something? does it? Or does it just make me a fan who really loves Queen? I couldn't care less because at least I'm not the one who's getting hung up on the way an album was recorded, or a particular bass line that wasn't great, or a simple guitar solo that isn't AMAZING (so what? it works) Ok, hijacking over. :P There are people who like to analyse the stuff they hear. Thinking about how it is produced, why does it sound good or doesn't, thinking about creativity and so on... And there are other who don't think about it. I am more interested in people who do care. |
| user name 04.03.2006 15:07 |
fantasma wrote: What's good in that chromatic piece of shit? No creativity in it at all! Fast??? The speed can easily be produced in studio... Sometimes Brian really sucks.I think it's creative. I don't know of any other solos that sound remotely like it. It has a unique feel to it, just like most of Brian's solos. Fast? That's not what is impressive about it. It's really not a technical masterpiece, but then again, neither are any of his other solos, so I really don't see where you are going with this point. Brian's credibility comes from his musicality, his tone, his melody, his rhythm, and his unique creativity. I think this solo fits those well. If you want fast, might I suggest Paul Gilbert. Quite an overlooked guitarist, but the man is brilliant. He is one of the few shredders who could turn speed into something beautiful. People like Malmsteen can only do so on occasion without seeming redundant, boring, and unoriginal. Gilbert can do it every time. Eric Johnson is another virtuoso you might want to invest your time in. However, just because Brian lacks the specific technique of these guitarists, it is much like criticizing a pole vaulter for his inability to ice skate. |
| Munchsack 05.03.2006 03:48 |
fantasma wrote:How could he have played it live? Queen haven't toured since 1986 and this song was written (presumably) in 88 or 89. Although I would like them to play it on the Q + PR tour.<font color=Orange>A Winter's Tale wrote: I think the solo is brilliant and one of his best. It's so fast and it's great.Hi, Well...it's fast...but has he ever played it live? In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine. What is great in this solo? half notes up and down...that's it...like a baby does when you give a guitar to it. |
| Bobby_brown 05.03.2006 15:51 |
The solo fits the song, and as with the majoraty of his solos no one would remember of doing it that way! You may not like it, but could you think of a better solo for that song after you hear this one? Take care |
| beautifulsoup 05.03.2006 23:24 |
Brian does scales in other solos, too (BoRhap and A Kind of Magic, for example) - but I think they're always appropriate for the piece. |
| firefox-inqueen 06.03.2006 13:43 |
does it matter about the solo in "the invisible man" it isnt a full rock song is it.(brian is good) queen=perfection |
| john bodega 07.03.2006 05:20 |
"In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine." Ok then. 1). Go to your studio. 2). Record Pagnini's 5th Caprice for me. 3). Upload it here. I can't play Pagnini's 5th Caprice, but I'm not saying you can't - if you're going to crap on something with such temerity, then you might as well back it up! |
| teleman 07.03.2006 07:20 |
fantasma wrote: What's good in that chromatic piece of shit? No creativity in it at all! Fast??? The speed can easily be produced in studio... Sometimes Brian really sucks.It works for me but you're entitled to your opinion. It isn't overly melodic but to me it creates a certain tension within the music. BTW who said it was fast? It isn't particularly fast. If you need to use studio trickery to play this then you need to practice. |
| Togg 07.03.2006 07:45 |
fantasma wrote: What's good in that chromatic piece of shit? No creativity in it at all! Fast??? The speed can easily be produced in studio... Sometimes Brian really sucks.Since this statement was put here with the sole purpose of getting people to fire back at you, I'm with Linda. Had you written a balanced critique then I would have given it more time, however your opinion is worthless if unless you back it up. Making a statement just to get folk annoyed is pathetic. Nobody says you have to like everything he does, but it would be nice if you could voice your views in a more constructive way. But in this instance I think Linda reacted in just the way you wanted, Oh and BTW he played it live in the studio, no tricks. |
| latina 07.03.2006 15:20 |
Hello, 1st: You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo. But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing. If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck. Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too. 2nd: I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio. But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition. |
| user name 07.03.2006 15:33 |
fantasma wrote: Hello, 1st: You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo. But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing. If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck. Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too. 2nd: I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio. But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition."It's only a matter of time, money and ambition." Same thing with developing your skills to the like of Yngwie Malmsteen. "that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo" Yes, and the last time I checked, best did not mean "most technically proficient" nor "most melodic" nor anything else you suggested. Merely, "favorite," as it is all quite subjective. |
| john bodega 08.03.2006 02:17 |
"Hello," Hi there. "1st: You are allowed to critizise me. No problemo." You are most gracious, sir. "But this thread is also about that particular guitar solo, that some people here regard as Queen's best guitar solo and that I find too basic for publishing." I don't think it's their best. I think there's a certain insanity in the playing of it though - it's not the fastest you'll hear, but coming from Brian May, and in such a silly song... it simply rocks, if for no other reason that it's placement (rather than the actual skill involved). "If it is Queen's best guitar solo then Queen would really, really suck. Or those people only know that song and maybe "Another one bites the dust" too." No, I happen to disagree. I'd think less of Queen if this was their 'best' but they still really wouldn't suck at all. "2nd: I don't have the time and ambition to imitate something in studio." But you said you could. You must have the time to do so, you're wasting so much of it on the internet. "But I think it's no secret that everyone can play everything in studio. It's only a matter of time, money and ambition." This is partly true. But the fact is, you point-blank said you could play anything. I want some freakin' proof - I will *gladly* shut my hole once you show us SOMETHING that shits all over everything Brian May ever did, but I can't abide this crap attitude of 'I can do it all' when you offer nothing in support. "Same thing with developing your skills to the like of Yngwie Malmsteen." Yes but even dear Yngwie makes mistakes! I think people need to change the way they think about guitar. It's just one big fat game of 'my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours'. I can think of nothing more boring than the kind of discussion of 'who-is-better', I would *much* rather have a thread where we all uploaded stuff of each other playing, tried to "create" something. Instead of this crap! |
| latina 08.03.2006 14:51 |
Hi again, I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time. By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned. No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest. It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist. And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!). But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody. Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway. Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness. By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense. Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that. But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months. Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff. I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...) Yours sincerely |
| user name 08.03.2006 16:31 |
fantasma wrote: Hi again, I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time. By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned. No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest. It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist. And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!). But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody. Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway. Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness. By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense. Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that. But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months. Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff. I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...) Yours sincerelySo, basically, what you're trying to say is...well, let me give you a brief summary of everything you've said in this thread: "I don't like 'The Invisible Man.'" That pretty much summarizes it. You just simply don't like the song. It's subjective, really, but you try to give some objective points that don't actually exist. But now that I've generally laid out your point in this entire thread, I'd say this topic is settled. |
| Lord Blackadder 08.03.2006 16:45 |
fantasma wrote:So dumb that the whole world knows it?<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:Dear Linda, Yup, sometimes he is great but sometimes he really sucks, ie. We Will Rock You. (The solo is alright, but the rest is too dumb)fantasma wrote: Sometimes Brian really sucks.Sometimes I wonder if people here are actually Queen fans. |
| john bodega 08.03.2006 23:21 |
"Hi again, I agree that I am wasting time here, but for something big I'd need a little bit more time." Well that's what I was getting at, less talk and more rock. "By the way I believe that I've never written yet that I'm a better guitarist than Brian May" ... heh. Look, just because I can play the majority of the Queen catalogue on the guitar doesn't make me 'better' than anyone. I just put more time into it, that's all. "and I don't think about "Who is the best guitarist" in the way you've mentioned." YOU JUST DID. YOU JUST SAID "yet I'm a better guitarist than Brian May". That = 'who is the best guitarist'. "No, my view isn't that the one who plays the fastest or most dificult parts is the greatest." I completely agree on this. I believe Jimi Hendrix has Steve Vai over a fucking barrel when it comes to guitar, because Steve Vai wastes 14 hours a day rehearsing these incredibly fast tunes, yet no bugger will ever remember them. Jimi Hendrix *invented* modern guitar playing, made incredible sounds with feedback in a way not many people would've done (on purpose anyway) and had such soul in his playing... I'm sorry, who's Steve Vai again? :D "It's the way how someone touches the strings, produces a sound and melody that fits to the song which characterizes a great guitarist. And Brian is usually very good there (Vibrato!)." Damn straight. "But it's not really like this in reference to "Invisible Man". At least there is no melody." I think you understand guitar playing pretty well, but you've missed the point with the Invisible Man solo. Can I give you a bit of background info on it? Brian May was feeling very frustrated/angry one day, so he went into the studio and the Invisible Man solo came out. It's fast and frenetic - not incredibly complicated but utterly over the top for a basic song like this. I mean, he was drunk off his face when he made the Put Out the Fire solo. Heh. "Well, Invisible Man is a terrible song anyway." It's not my favourite. "Maybe Brian didn't like it neither and that's the reason for this kind of feeblemindedness. By the way, who wrote it? Probably John or Freddie who are also famous for their pop-oriented nonsense." Roger Taylor wrote it. "Though I am able to play most Queen-songs I've never recorded any yet to show you that." Heh, well I tried recording some proof to at least back up my ridiculous claims - it was alright stuff, but the humidity in the air pretty much killed my playing. I'll try again in more mild weather. "But I am planing to do so in some weeks/months." Please do! I really did try to get a thread started in the Announce section where people uploaded their playing, but only 2 people did it (the topic starter and myself). "Meanwhile I am busy with other stuff." Heh. "I was thinking about '39 or Innuendo but if you have a special request don't hesitate to tell it to me.(I won't do Invisible Man...)" I've been contemplating Innuendo for my 2nd attempt. It's really not that hard and I've been playing it heaps lately. If you really want to 'impress' (though really, is it about that at all?) play something like Dead on Time. Heh. "Yours sincerely" Cheers. |
| latina 09.03.2006 15:46 |
Roger wrote it??? I am surprised and a little bit worried... Brian's mental state explains a lot... I don't intend to impress. I like to play nice tunes. Can you tell me the thread of your and the others works? |
| Micrówave 09.03.2006 15:55 |
fantasma wrote: In Studio I can also play everything that you can imagine.Okay... Whip out Larry Carlton's Kid Charlamagne for me and post it by 3pm today. SERIOUSLY: How to become a fan of The Invisible Man guitar solo in three easy steps: (1) Remove "The Miracle" from your CD Player (2) Place "The Invisible Man" CD Single into said player and cue up the 12 inch version. (3) Remove TIM CD single and place "The Miracle" back into the player and cue up Track 5. Enjoy! |
| Micrówave 09.03.2006 17:22 |
Kid Charlemagne not received. |
| john bodega 09.03.2006 23:10 |
"I don't intend to impress. I like to play nice tunes. Can you tell me the thread of your and the others works?" I would love to. Unfortunately, piccoto (I think that was his name) and myself used Rapidshare to host our clips, they'd be long gone by now. I'd love to start a new thread as long as we get more than 2 people this time! |
| john bodega 09.03.2006 23:25 |
I must add, what I also wanted was for musicians of *all* kinds to add stuff to the thread, and I figured if we had a good guitarist, a drummer, a bass player and a singer, we could've compiled something simple like Tie Your Mother Down and put it on the stage of champions or something... heh. Funny thing is, we weren't just uploading audio, we were uploading video. Heck, the finished song would have it's own video, there's a thought :D |
| zone 10.03.2006 12:55 |
We will rock you solo is a great solo.It fits the song and it's easily Brian's most recognisable solo ever. |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 03:43 |
You'd be surprised actually. I think the 'most recognisable solo' award goes to Killer Queen or Bohemian Rhapsody. The latter is obvious, as soon as I start playing that anywhere, people start singing it. But with Killer Queen you'd think "NAH nobody would recognise that". Not so. I've ran into a few non-Queen fans who've been able to hum the KQ solo. |
| latina 11.03.2006 11:43 |
@zebonka Hello, I find your idea excellent. This is something for real Queen-Fans. TYMD is nice. I'd also like to do the Queen-Song par excellence: Bohemian Rhapsody. The problem is at the moment I am afraid that I haven't got enough time to do a whole more complex song. But parts of it I could do anytime. |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 14:03 |
See yeah. There's musicians all over this forum in all fields. I reckon, different bits could be recorded, and someone with a bit of brains could mix it together and make something spiffy. I chose TYMD because it's not so hard. Bohemian Rhapsody would be a hoot, but for that opera bit in the middle. But yeah; no time to do it in! I'm sorta busy at Music TAFE having to write an 'original' song, so I won't be able to do anything like this just now. BUT definitely an idea for the future. Rock on! |
| deleted user 11.03.2006 15:11 |
I think it's a cool solo, and I would give my right arm to be able to play guitar like that (well, that's a pretty dumb thing to say but you get my drift) and as for We Will Rock You, come on! How is that a dumb song? It's a bloody classic! Everyone knows that song. |
| zone 11.03.2006 21:29 |
My favorite solo has to be Somebody to love.I love the way it just flows so effortlessly in the middle of the song. |
| john bodega 11.03.2006 22:01 |
YES I'm glad someone mentioned Somebody to Love. Though it's not too hard to play, it's all in the timing and I think Brian got it perfect the first time. I still find it a little tricky getting the timing right in that solo - I'm pretty sure STL was the loosest song they ever did. |