| DavidRFuller 06.02.2006 14:55 |
PITTSBURGH STEELERS 2005 WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Thanks 06.02.2006 17:18 |
Well, I suppose nobody ever wrote a song called We Are The Least Bad Of Two Poor Teams |
| Maz 06.02.2006 17:24 |
Isn't that a Lynryd Skynryd song? |
| Micrówave 06.02.2006 17:28 |
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *SNORT*!* Oh is the game over? I must have fallen asleep. |
| inthelapofthegods 06.02.2006 19:30 |
Thanks wrote: Well, I suppose nobody ever wrote a song called We Are The Least Bad Of Two Poor TeamsSeahawks played better. No denying that. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 06.02.2006 19:49 |
It is sad that you had to blow out a Pro Bowl QB's knee to get there.... Enjoy your tainted trophy, because this is the last time you'll see it for a while. link |
| Sherwood Forest 06.02.2006 19:55 |
SEAHAWKK SUCK ANNAAAA we brung it reall good. WOOOO STEELERS good game, very well played (moreso in the 2nd half) |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 09:24 |
The officials took away a Seattle TD on a phantom push off, even though Hines Ward knocked Seattles defender over with NO flag, gave Pittsburgh one when the ball did NOT cross the goal line, took away Seattles first and goal at the 2 yard line on a phantom holding penalty.... Simply put, the most horribly officiated game in the history of the Super Bowl. The officials TRIED to give Pittsburgh the ball on a phantom fumble, but thankfully replay overturned it. Even so, you could hear the chagrin in the Referee's voice as he overturned the call. Whatever respect Pittsburgh had with me, and with many football fans, was lost. Sure, you won the Super Bowl, but, to a man, it is tainted. Ask the football pundits, they will tell you the same thing. A tainted win. Pure and simple. If Pittsburgh had won the game fair and square, it would be a completely different circumstance. They did not. Not even close. Yet another black eye for the NFL. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 09:28 |
Paul Tagliabue's league has an officiating crisis. Bogus, inconsistent flag-throwing and rule-interpreting is making the national pastime difficult to take seriously. So far, only Joey Porter has demonstrated the necessary courage to address what we all see. Many of these part-time, 50-year-old referees don't know what they're doing and can't keep up with the action. Porter fumed when the refs nearly stole Pittsburgh's playoff victory over Indianapolis by overturning a Troy Polamalu interception. Porter probably won't address the first-quarter touchdown that Sunday's referees stole from the Seahawks. Hasselbeck avoided pressure and hit Darrell Jackson in the back of the end zone with a beautiful strike. The Pittsburgh cornerback immediately turned to back judge Bob Waggoner and begged for an offensive pass-interference call. After a couple of seconds of thought, Waggoner, a born and bred Pittsburgh native, granted the Pittsburgh request and erased Seattle's hard-earned touchdown. A ticky-tack call like that shoudl NEVER, ever, be called in the leagues biggest game. Period. The Seahawks settled for a field goal. Had they not been robbed of the four points, they would have ended the game with the ball and the opportunity to drive for a game-tying touchdown. Seattle was victimized by two other questionable first-half calls_including the 1-yard TD run the refs awarded Roethlisberger when he seemed a few inches short of the goal line_but the final backbreaking call helped set up Pittsburgh's game-icing, reverse, wide-receiver-pass-to-Ward touchdown early in the fourth quarter. Ike Taylor intercepted Hasselbeck deep in Pittsburgh territory. Hasselbeck stopped Taylor at the Pittsburgh 29 with a perfectly executed form tackle across Taylor's knees. The refs flagged Hasselbeck for illegally "blocking" Taylor across his knees and gave the Steelers 15 additional yards. The Seahawks justifiably can complain that Sunday's one-sided officiating disrupted their offensive rhythm and undermined their focus. The officiating had to creep inside their head. And NFL fans need to acknowledge that there's something terribly wrong with professional football. This year's playoffs were horrible. Sunday's Super Bowl stands as an appropriate symbol of the 2006 playoffs, boring and poorly officiated. We are too technologically advanced, and the NFL is overrun with too much money to put up with the kind of officiating errors that are ruining the pro game. The league needs younger, full-time referees on the field and a three-man officiating team sitting in the press box supervising what is called on the field. All calls - including ones like the offensive pass-interference call that killed Seattle - should be subject to quick review and overturning. You don't need an official on the field to stick his head underneath a blanket draped over a camera to review calls. Those decisions can be made in a press-box suite. Instead of stopping the game for commercial timeouts on nearly every change of possession or when a coach just wants to stop the clock, the game should go to a commercial timeout whenever a critical penalty needs to be reviewed in the booth. Also, the officiating crew should be forced to address the media and defend their decisions. It's ridiculous that the media are allowed to confront players, coaches, executives and owners, but the guys who can easily change the course of a game with one questionable decision are pretty much off limits. Bill Leavy and his crew ruined Super Bowl XL. Am I the only one who would like to hear them defend their incompetence? |
| Lisser 07.02.2006 11:05 |
AMEN Haystacks!!! A to tha mudder feckin MEN!!! You are exactly correct!!!! |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 12:05 |
Yeah, there were some bad calls, but I don't think the refs ruined the game. Pitt and Hawk did a fine job of that themselves. And that hit on Carson Palmer was not an illegal hit. Pitt beat the #1 seed, #2 seed, and #3 seed to get to the superbowl. To say they didn't earn the right to play in the game is absurd. Something should be done about the officiating, such as making them full time jobs... NO MOONLIGHTING!!! But to blame a lousy game on three or four calls is not right. That's one reason why Baseball is the ultimate game. The call is made, and that's it. No discussion, no replay, just deal with it. Seattle didn't deal with it. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 12:23 |
WAKE UP!!! This is important stuff!!! |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 12:49 |
Mircrowave wrote: Yeah, there were some bad calls, but I don't think the refs ruined the game. Pitt and Hawk did a fine job of that themselves. And that hit on Carson Palmer was not an illegal hit. Pitt beat the #1 seed, #2 seed, and #3 seed to get to the superbowl. To say they didn't earn the right to play in the game is absurd. Something should be done about the officiating, such as making them full time jobs... NO MOONLIGHTING!!! But to blame a lousy game on three or four calls is not right. That's one reason why Baseball is the ultimate game. The call is made, and that's it. No discussion, no replay, just deal with it. Seattle didn't deal with it.Illegal, no. Dirty? Yes. You do NOT go low on a QB, period. They teach you that in 7th grade football. The NFL has a very, very serious problem on their hands with the officiating. It may well take this disaster of a Super Bowl to get the commisioner to do something about it. The back judge, a Pittsburgh native, took away 7 points of Seattles, more than likely 14 including the phantom holding call, and gave Pittsburgh 7, 14 counting holding call and the 15 yard "illegal block" called on Hasselbeck who was MAKING THE TACKLE. There can be NO argument about that. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 12:54 |
I'm not saying there's no blame for the refs, just not THE ONLY BLAME. I agree they shouldn't have called a "push-off" on Seattle in the endzone, but he did push off. He didn't need to, but he did. Personally I think the QB gets too much pampering these days. Dirty hit? C'mon I'm a McNabb fan. I've seen dirty hits for 7 years now. If you want to blame someone, blame Jon Kitna for not keeping anything in his bag. The QB shouldn't have affected Cincy's running game. But I do think something will be done... |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 12:59 |
Furthermore....to illustrate the obvious... Super Bowl XL is in the books and it was anything, but one for the ages. In fact what happened Sunday night in Detroit, Michigan bordered on criminal. The best team did not win, cheating their fans after 30 years of waiting. The team that did win, their fans now get to hear how their team was given a victory it did not deserve. So you see both teams were victimized and so too were their fans. What should not be lost in the crimes of the evening are the perpetrators of said crime, the officials. We are not going to look at just one or two instances where the zebras made a mistake, we are going to look at all of them. Ironically and sadly every one of them went against the team that should have won the game, the Seattle Seahawks. In the first quarter, a quarter in which the Seahawks dominated, the Seahawks were driving and deep in Steelers territory. Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck hit WR Darrell Jackson with a beautiful 16 yard TD pass only to have the play nullified by an offensive pass interference call on Jackson. Quite frankly there is more contact when two people pass each other in a tight hallway then there was on the play. In fact the Steelers defender actually was the one who initiated the contact. Dubious as well was the lateness in which the flag was thrown. Only after the defender turned to plea his case did the back judge throw the flag. This was the first crime committed Sunday night, but it was far from the last. With 2 minutes to go in the first half the Steelers had driven to the Seahawks 1 yard line. A nice drive that started on their own 41 yard line. Some fancy play by Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger got them that far, but after 2 successive attempts to score from the 1 with running back Jerome Bettis the Steelers faced a 3rd and goal. Roethlisberger did a QB keeper on what looked like it could have been an option play, he was met with a thundering blow by Seahawks LB Leroy Hill. The side judge ran in with his left arm up as if to spot the ball short, but half way to the pile he sees Roethlisberger sitting across the goal line, touchdown! After review the play stood, but there was no proof what so ever that the ball ever crossed the plain of the goal. More then that even is why did the side judge change his call after initially signaling for a spot? With 54 seconds to go in the first half Hasselbeck hit WR Darrel Jackson with what appeared to be a completion that would have either been a touchdown or given the Seahawks the ball at the Steelers 1 yard line. The side judge ruled Jackson out of bounds and the play incomplete. After one network replay it was clear that Jackson got his right foot in and his left foot hit the end zone pylon, clearly a completion. Sadly though, as was the case all night, the official upstairs did not review the play and the Seahawks lost another opportunity to put points on the board. With 12:35 to play in the game and the score Pittsburgh 14 Seattle 10 the Seahawks were looking to capitalize on a monstrous drive that started at their own 2 yard line. Hasselbeck hit TE Jeremy Stevens for 18 yards to the Steelers 1 yard line, but wait another flag! This time right tackle Sean Locklear was flagged for holding on LB Clark Haggans. The replay clearly shows that Locklear did not hold and had his hands inside the shoulder pads of Haggans. Two plays later RB Shaun Alexander was tackled by Steelers LB Joey Porter after a 7 yard gain. Clearly the tackle that was made was considered a "horse collar" tackle, a tackle that was made illegal this season by the owners and the competition committee. There was no flag and even more erroneous was the fact that an official was less than 2 yards away from the play. the next play Hasselback was intercepted and then flagged for an "illegal block" when he made the tackle on CB Ike Taylor. Someone may want to tell the official who threw the flag that it was a tackle that was being |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 13:08 |
OK, Haystacks, you've made your point. How about a dirty joke or something? I'm still reading your post. JESUS!!!! |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 13:18 |
My point is, that in the biggest game of the year, we shouldn't have this much ammo to prove how piss poor NFL officiating is on the Tuesday after the game. I am just glad that I wasn't the only one who thought this Sunday, and that respected news guys, respected sports guys are raising a national stink. It just taints Pittsburghs season even more than it was. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 13:23 |
Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Furthermore....to illustrate the obvious... The team that did win, their fans now get to hear how their team was given a victory it did not deserve.And they said Brett Hull was in the crease when the Stars won the cup. I think that's become opinion after looking back. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: every one of them went against the team that should have won the game, the Seattle Seahawks.Not every one, but agreed... it was one-sided. But Pitt could say the same thing about the Colts game the week before. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Quite frankly there is more contact when two people pass each other in a tight hallway then there was on the play. Only after the defender turned to plea his case did the back judge throw the flag.I looked like interference to me. The defender was going for the ball and got ran into. The flag was already being thrown, and every defender looks to the ref after a play is made. I call it the Magic Johnson stare. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: why did the side judge change his call after initially signaling for a spot?He was corrected by another ref who saw the QB move the ball AFTER the play was blown dead. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: With 54 seconds to go in the first half Hasselbeck hit WR Darrel Jackson with what appeared to be... clearly a completion.This is not a reviewable play. By rule. If they were spotting the ball, yes. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Hasselbeck hit TE Jeremy Stevens for 18 yards to the Steelers 1 yard line, but wait another flag! ... The replay clearly shows that Locklear did not hold and had his hands inside the shoulder pads of Haggans.The replay was not of the hold. You need to go back 3 seconds before the camera replay came on. He was "arm-locked" with Haggans. You saw the arm coming loose, while pulling the jersey. Clearly a penalty, but the TV replay was poor. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Two plays later RB Shaun Alexander was tackled by Steelers LB Joey Porter after a 7 yard gain. Clearly the tackle that was made was considered a "horse collar" tackleI thought of Roy Williams here, too. But it didn't look as bad. I could've gone either way here. Haystacks Calhoun wrote: On the play QB Roethlisberger threw a block that was very much in the same fashion as the tackle made by Hasselbeck on Taylor, you guessed it no flag! It didn't appear the Roethlisberger came close to the knees, but even if he did that's not a penalty. The 15yd call against Hasselbeck WAS a bad call. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 13:25 |
This is why football is a talking sport. Thanks Haystacks!!! |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 13:38 |
A 54 yard completion, with one foot clearly in, and the other foot knocking over the pylon, which is INBOUNDS, is not reviewable????? You are going to say, with a straight face, that the interference penalty on Jackson was legit???? Are you kidding me? You lose all respectability in your arguments with that. You do not make that ticky-tack call in the Super Bowl, period. If you are going to call that hold on the right tackle, you need to throw that flag 20 times a game. Looks to me as if you are a Pittsburgh apologist. Look, the referees tainted the win, pure and simple. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 13:49 |
I can't stand either team. I haven't heard you say once that the teams played good and deserved the win, though. You're saying it's just the refs. Not reviewable. Hey, I didn't make the rule!!! If it were up to me, there'd be no instant replay in anything. I'm not trying to be credible, just friendly. My knowledge of the rules shows my credibility. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 14:03 |
The play WAS reviewable, however, being inside two minutes in the half, it had to be reviewed by the folks in the booth. They chose, wrongly, not to review it. Both teams played poorly, IMO. Ben was horrid, Hasselbeck's numbers, as well as Jacksons, SHOULD have been great in the first half if not for the one TD taken away, and the disputed one at the end of the half. In all, Seattle outplayed Pittsburgh. Seattle should have won the game, but they had to play not only the AFC champion, but the guys in stripes..... That said, Seattle had to play the perfect game to beat both squads, and they didn't. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 14:13 |
Respect, HC. I see your point. I just choose to believe that the team that won was the team that didn't play as BAD. The highest rated superbowl will go down as one the worst. I'm hoping Philly's in it next year. You? |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 14:15 |
I can't stand Philly, and they have the worst fans on the planet. I think Seattle can go again from the NFC, and the AFC will be a toss up between the Colts, the Patriots, and the Bengals. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 14:21 |
Haystacks Calhoun wrote: I can't stand Philly, and they have the worst fans on the planet..I love how we get that monicker. PROUD OF IT!!!! Although we don't throw "piss-bombs" like some soccer fans do... |
| Haystacks Calhoun 07.02.2006 14:35 |
Piss Bombs are pretty poor. Give us Bengals fans a few more years, lord knows we knocked more than a few Steeler fans unconscious.... |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 14:36 |
Haystacks!!! The Cincinnati Bengals just signed free agent quarterback Doug Johnson to a one-year contract. Just happened. I hope Carson is OK, really. He has been a lot of fun to watch develop. |
| Micrówave 07.02.2006 14:37 |
Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Piss Bombs are pretty poor.If used improperly, yes. |
| Lisser 07.02.2006 15:04 |
Who Deyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! |
