Perry 05.02.2006 08:16 |
Sorry if this has been posted before _________________________________________________ Paul Weller just isn’t in a good mood this week, fresh from saying he’d “rather eat my own shit than duet with him” over rumours he may perform with pap whiner James Blunt at the Brits, the modfather has gone on record attacking some of the biggest names in rock history. In a interview with Uncut Weller didn’t hold back when launching scathing tirades on the likes of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury, Sting, U2 and Bob Geldof. Weller, who will take home the Lifetime Achievement Award at this years Brits, said of one time winner Geldof: “Bob Geldof. What’d he win it for? Can’t be for his music, man. I mean, if it’s for his charity work in Africa then you can’t knock it, but Boomtown Rats, fuck off.” Next in the line of fire was Sting, of whom he said: “Fucking horrible man. Not my cup of tea at all. Fucking rubbish. No edge, no attitude, no nothing.” Then on U2 front man Bono he fumed: “The whole thing of Bono becoming the Pope - what the fuck’s all that about? Pseudo-American rubbish.” Weller didn’t have any respect for the dead, blasting Queen legend Freddie Mercury. “He said he wanted to bring ballet to the working classes. What a cunt.” A finally he called the quality of David Bowie’s output into question and his receiving of the Lifetime gong, saying: “Wrong! I like about three records of his. The rest of it’s pish.” All Gigwise can say is the interviewer must having been rubbing his hands together. Oh, and Weller - remember the Style Council?! __________________________________________________ What a twat! He is absolutely nothing compared to those people. Who does he think he is? |
Adam Baboolal 05.02.2006 08:54 |
You know, I've never really liked his musical output. And now I have a genuine reason to dislike the guy. Who the hell does he think he is by slagging off all those people. The fact that he doesn't understand David Bowie's musical output shows how much he really knows. That part just sounds like some disgruntled idiot who hasn't a clue. And that thing he said about Freddie? What a lunatic! He even got the quote wrong, so, did he really get it? Methinks not. Must be crap to be him! Peace, Adam. |
john bodega 05.02.2006 09:06 |
Who's Paul Weller? |
Serry... 05.02.2006 09:15 |
link |
Banquo 05.02.2006 10:12 |
i love Paul Weller I thought the Jam were mega and Stanley Road a cracking album. He's entitled to his own opinion not everyone likes Queen you know. Let's not forget Roger slagged The Jam off in an interview with Sounds in 1981 its on the Roger section of the Brian May website. |
~-:Moet et Chandon:-~ 05.02.2006 10:20 |
Paul Weller is known almost exclusively in UK, and yet he hasn't ever had a #1 single in the UK...ok, two #1 albums, but then again... Bob Geldof's group (Boomtown Rats) had two UK #1's, suffice to say that the likes of Queen and U2 and Bowie had pleennnnty. Sting was also far more succesful, esp. in USA, than Weller. Not that sales make the artist, but still. |
Asterik 05.02.2006 10:39 |
Paul Weller- well he did support Kinnock so what do you expect from a total loser? Yesterday's man. |
The Fairy King 05.02.2006 11:43 |
lol remember the Band Aid clip at TOTP, he mimed the bit Bono is singin!!!!! ...now THAT'S a cunt xD |
deleted user 05.02.2006 12:34 |
I used to like Paul Weller(and The Jam) but what hes said about Freddie Mercury....He's just jealous of Queen's success....Fucking Twat... How DARE HE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. |
Fireplace 05.02.2006 12:52 |
Funny thing is, I seem to remember that bringing ballet to the masses was a quote by Sid Vicious when he first met Freddie. Can the moron shut up now? |
Perry 05.02.2006 12:54 |
Banquo wrote: He's entitled to his own opinion not everyone likes Queen you know.I'm happy to accept the fact he doesn't like Queen, it's just that there was no need to call him the worst word in the English language. |
john bodega 05.02.2006 13:05 |
I still haven't a clue who this guy is. He mustn't be any good. |
claudiox 05.02.2006 13:22 |
who's this lORD ? can you halp me to understand "where he's from" ...? |
Adam Baboolal 05.02.2006 13:24 |
Fireplace wrote: Funny thing is, I seem to remember that bringing ballet to the masses was a quote by Sid Vicious when he first met Freddie.Hmm... you might be right there! Peace, Adam. |
Banquo 05.02.2006 14:05 |
For fucks sake just because he has the audacity to say he doesn't like Freddie you jump on him like a ton of bricks. And anyone who says they have never heard of him are either American or don't know anything about music. I can think of loads of great songs he's written "Town Called Malice", "Going Underground", "The Butterfly Collecter", "You Do Something To Me" Paul Weller is IMHO a fantastic song-writer, good singer and anyone who uses "Cat" as a term of endearment and isn't Huggie Bear is great! |
Banquo 05.02.2006 14:06 |
double double post |
Bono Mercury 05.02.2006 14:29 |
if he slagged of bob geldof why take part of live aid? |
.DeaconJohn. 05.02.2006 15:15 |
Agreed with Banquo. I am amazed some people have not heard of him. |
teddybear 05.02.2006 15:59 |
Well this must be some guy of "authority" since most of us have never even heard him !!!! LOL. He must be desperate for an extra 15 minutes of fame, poor sad little man !!!!!!! Whoever he is (and I sure have never heard his name before). |
Adam Baboolal 05.02.2006 16:00 |
Banquo wrote: For fucks sake just because he has the audacity to say he doesn't like Freddie you jump on him like a ton of bricks. And anyone who says they have never heard of him are either American or don't know anything about music.1st of all... Personally speaking, I jumped on it because he seems to have a lot of very stupid and ugly things to say about some great people. Not simply FM. 2nd, just because someone doesn't know who he is doesn't make them anything you say they must be. I'll bet there are people who didn't know who Johnny Cash was before the biopic came around, but that doesn't mean a thing. If anything it simply means that their taste in music hasn't allowed that path to be tred. Each to their own. So, kindly keep those kind of assumptions to yourself, please. Otherwise, you seem to be mimicking Mr Weller there. Peace, Adam. |
ok.computer 05.02.2006 16:30 |
I've come to this very late. But to those who say "who's Paul Weller?" or "Paul Weller is shite", I would suggest that you should really go back to The Jam and have a listen. But this won't really do you much good. You'd really have to have been around in that period to know the effect and influence that Weller's work had. Anybody in the UK who has a copy of yesterday's (feb 4) Guardian should read the piece about Weller. He was the Modfather. He was the new Pete Townshend and then some. He was of his time, and really took the working class hero in rock forward to new levels of appreciation. People burnt their entire record collections the day that Weller split The Jam. That's just my tuppence worth. All i would say is that he has his place in the Rock Pantheon. I think he's pretty much entitled to say whatever he wants. Paul |
teddybear 05.02.2006 16:41 |
ok.computer wrote: I've come to this very late. All i would say is that he has his place in the Rock Pantheon. I think he's pretty much entitled to say whatever he wants. PaulWell maybe so, but the think is it looks like no-one outside of the UK seems to know who he is!!!??? So how does that give him authority to say what he likes? Anyway, it is not so much what he said, but the WAY he said it. Freddie has been gone many years now, and we nearly everyone knows who he is - Paul Weller is ALIVE and many of us are saying "Paul who????????". |
Lester Burnham 05.02.2006 17:12 |
teddybear wrote: Well maybe so, but the think is it looks like no-one outside of the UK seems to know who he is!!!??? So how does that give him authority to say what he likes? Anyway, it is not so much what he said, but the WAY he said it. Freddie has been gone many years now, and we nearly everyone knows who he is - Paul Weller is ALIVE and many of us are saying "Paul who????????".I'm American, and I know who he is. What gives him the authority to say what he likes? Probably that whole "free speech" thing. While I don't agree with what Mr. Weller has said, he's allowed to say it, because that's how we've progressed as a society. But it really doesn't matter what I say, or what Banquo says, or what DeaconJohn, or what ok.computer - the only real voices of reason here - say, because you're all going to jump over this like it's the biggest disgrace ever to happen to Queen. |
Sir Archie Leach 05.02.2006 17:48 |
Never had much time for the little creep. Commoner you see. His problem is he's trying to appear all cutting edge and trendy. Unfortunately he's part of the musical 'establishment' that he despises so much. Much like champagne socialists, they all sell out in the end. |
englishyob 05.02.2006 18:11 |
WELLER is a doyle the "modfather of rock" comeone what a load of tosh, he's someone who things he's better the everyone else over rated TWAT who is clearly jealous of everyone's else’s success |
teddybear 05.02.2006 18:46 |
Probably that whole "free speech" thing. While I don't agree with what Mr. Weller has said, he's allowed to say it, because that's how we've progressed as a society. That is why I said it is not "what" as said so much, but HOW it was said. Anyway, glad that someone outside of UK knows who he is - at least that makes another one :-)) |
sparverius 05.02.2006 18:54 |
Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether we like it or not. Weller is one of my favourite songwriters and some bullshit talk cannot change my view of him. In any case, such talk is common among the heavily inflated egos that are rock stars. Weller himself has said in an interview something to the sort of 'I've said a lot of f***ing things in my life but I didn't mean all of it, y'know'. |
Adam Baboolal 05.02.2006 19:13 |
By the sound of that quote, he's as bad as the recent Pete Burns school of thought! Peace, Adam. |
The Fairy King 05.02.2006 20:17 |
Didn't we have the same conversation when Elton bashed Queen not so long ago? And when Robert Smith bashed Queen? |
The Fairy King 05.02.2006 20:17 |
<font color=#C5150>The Fairy King</font> wrote: Didn't we have the same conversation when Elton bashed Queen not so long ago? Or Robert "The Clown" Smith? |
Josh Henson 05.02.2006 22:39 |
Who the hell is he? |
Lester Burnham 05.02.2006 22:48 |
Apparently, anyone asking this "who is Paul Weller?" question doesn't like to read what Serry posts. Check the first fucking page, third or fourth reply. |
NOTWMEDDLE 06.02.2006 01:03 |
Paul Weller is a dork. The Jam sucked anyhow. Thank Christ they didn't break the US. |
Togg 06.02.2006 06:02 |
Two comments, either the reporter decided to write whatever he felt like to make up a story, (English press are scum) Second Mr Weller is either trying to get noticed by being controvershal or just plain ignorant, the comments if true and meant as they read display a rather shallow individual that hasn't moved on since the playground. |
john bodega 06.02.2006 06:35 |
"But to those who say "who's Paul Weller?" or "Paul Weller is shite" Yeah that's me. "I would suggest that you should really go back to The Jam and have a listen." Interesting, once I heard his music I remembered who he was, I'm just shithouse with names (the other day I told someon Buddy *Ebsen* used to drum for Jimi Hendrix. The drummer was of course, Buddy Miles). I've always disliked this music anyway. It's rubbish. "But this won't really do you much good. You'd really have to have been around in that period to know the effect and influence that Weller's work had." Yah but I didn't have to be around when they painted the Cistine Chapel to appreciate that. If it sucks in one decade, it'll suck in the next one. He's just a very ordinary musician. "Anybody in the UK who has a copy of yesterday's (feb 4) Guardian should read the piece about Weller. He was the Modfather. He was the new Pete Townshend and then some. He was of his time, and really took the working class hero in rock forward to new levels of appreciation." He was boring. "People burnt their entire record collections the day that Weller split The Jam." There's something in that for all of us to consider... "That's just my tuppence worth. All i would say is that he has his place in the Rock Pantheon." In the attic with Oasis. "I think he's pretty much entitled to say whatever he wants." We *all* are, and we're also entitled to rip the shit out of it! :D |
Asterik 06.02.2006 06:45 |
ok.computer wrote: I've come to this very late. Anybody in the UK who has a copy of yesterday's (feb 4) Guardian should read the piece about Weller. He was the Modfather. PaulWell it would be The Guardian wouldn't it- shrine to all left wing loonies. |
Negative Creep 06.02.2006 07:45 |
He was asked his opinion on these acts & he gave them. To suggest Paul Weller is uknown is beyond hilarious. Didn't break the US? Oh dear, what a failure. The US is the centre of the Universe, I forgot. |
-luke_taylor- 28432 06.02.2006 08:01 |
i thought paul weller was the actor who played robocop, holy metal, oh well i learnt something new |
Fenderek 06.02.2006 08:33 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: His problem is he's trying to appear all cutting edge and trendy. Unfortunately he's part of the musical 'establishment' that he despises so much.Ay- there's some good point to it! Personally I never liked him. Not my cup of tea, I'd say. So I could slag him off. And I guess I'd be entitled to. Same way he could slag off FM. Big deal. What we gonna do? Crucify Paul Weller? Give me a break... |
dimcyril 06.02.2006 08:52 |
ive always quite liked paul weller. #he is of course entitled not to like freddie mercury, but to call him a c**t for something he never actually said is poor form from the man. either get your facts traight before slagging him, or as a mighty sage once said 'say fuck all is best' |
Perry 06.02.2006 11:38 |
dimcyril wrote: ive always quite liked paul weller. #he is of course entitled not to like freddie mercury, but to call him a c**t for something he never actually said is poor form from the man. either get your facts traight before slagging him, or as a mighty sage once said 'say fuck all is best'That's exactly what I stated earlier. I don't care whether he likes Freddie Mercury or not, but to call him a c**t is way over the top. What's wrong with "He's not my cup of tea?" or something of those lines? |
ok.computer 06.02.2006 14:27 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Paul Weller is a dork. The Jam sucked anyhow. Thank Christ they didn't break the US.You are, of course, entitled to your opinion - this is the beauty of the internet. On what basis do you assert that Paul Weller is a dork? How did The Jam "suck" musically? How do you figure that today's bands could exist without The Jam? Those who quote Weller and The Jam as influences include Zutons, Kaiser Chiefs, Oasis, Damon Albarn, Killers, Strokes, White Stripes - the list goes on. Perhaps you are stuck in a kind of glam rock timewarp of the Seventies? I dunno... Perhaps you don't feel that the above bands count for very much? I dunno. But I would like to hear your opinion justifying your comments. I don't doubt that The Jam couldn't break Amerika. They were working class boys from London, singing and writing about the downturn of the times as Thatcherism (that's a British Prime Minister, by the way) kicked in, and socialist values, the foundations of which were grown on Union principles were removed. Look at these lyrics from That's Entertainment. These pretty much sum up what it was like to live on a sink-estate anywhere in the UK in 1980. A police car and a screaming siren - A pneumatic drill and ripped up concrete - A baby wailing and stray dog howling - The screech of brakes and lamp light blinking - That's Entertainment. A smash of glass and a rumble of boots - An electric train and a ripped up 'phone booth - Paint splattered walls and the cry of a tomcat - Lights going out and a kick in the balls - That's Entertainment. And again, from Going Underground. Actually some of these should ring true with the Amerikan way of life.... You choose your leaders and place your trust As their lies wash you down and their promises rust You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns And the public wants what the public gets But I don't get what this society wants I'm going underground, (going underground) Well the brass bands play and feet start to pound Going underground, (going underground) And again, a picture of youthful ennui and a hatred of the original neo-con, the Conservative Government of the 1980's in Britain....these from the lyrics of Art School.... Young words are mumbled, they don't always last It's up to us to be sure they understand Who makes the rules that make people select Who is to judge that your ways are correct The media as watchdog is absolute shit The TV telling you what to think Anything that you wanna do, anyplace that you wanna go Don't need permission for everything that you want Any taste that you feel is right Now far be it from me to disagree with anybody. And I make no comment on the erstwhile career of Paul Weller, Style Council, solo or otherwise. But I'd really like to hear from a political perspective and your insight into the times - which you were around for, albeit on the other side of the Atlantic - just why The Jam sucked..? Perhaps you'd prefer to give a socio-political perspective on NWA? Paul |
Asterik 06.02.2006 14:55 |
I have to disagree Mr Computer- I hate self serving looney socialists like Weller and Chris Martin etc- people like him think their politicians and they're not-they are just badly informed pop stars. His songs were not accurate perceptions of Britain; just a hardcore of people. He wasn't at all original at all- he jumped on the Mrs Thatcher banwagon- it doesn't make him clever- far from it. Queen's strength was the fact that they were apolitcal- let no one on this site forget that! |
ok.computer 06.02.2006 15:08 |
Asterik wrote: I have to disagree Mr Computer- I hate self serving looney socialists like Weller and Chris Martin etc- people like him think their politicians and they're not-they are just badly informed pop stars. His songs were not accurate perceptions of Britain; just a hardcore of people. He wasn't at all original at all- he jumped on the Mrs Thatcher banwagon- it doesn't make him clever- far from it. Queen's strength was the fact that they were apolitcal- let no one on this site forget that!Your opinion is noted. However, I'd **still** like to hear NOTWMEDDLE's opinion on the matter. By the way, I doubt if either of the above feel themselves to politicians. Neither have stood for office. Perhaps they feel more like social commentators with their songs. Naturally, this would place "Is This The World We Created?" on the same platform, would it not? Words like "apolitical" are like phrases such as "absolute truth". Again, just my opinion. |
Asterik 06.02.2006 15:11 |
ok.computer wrote:Asterik wrote: I Naturally, this would place "Is This The World We Created?" on the same platform, would it not? Words like "apolitical" are like phrases such as "absolute truth". Again, just my opinion.There is some truth in that my friend. |
Michael Allred 06.02.2006 15:46 |
I know of Weller, bought the Jam's hits album and thought it was DREADFULLY boring. He's quite full of himself when ever I hear him speak. Oh and if you're going to insult someone over a quote, perhaps they should know who they're quoting. |
ok.computer 06.02.2006 17:23 |
Michael Allred wrote: I know of Weller, bought the Jam's hits album and thought it was DREADFULLY boring. He's quite full of himself when ever I hear him speak. Oh and if you're going to insult someone over a quote, perhaps they should know who they're quoting.Errrrr....I have no idea to what you're referring. |
Sir Archie Leach 06.02.2006 17:39 |
Dear ok computer, if that is your real name, I'll not have you dissing The Lady. Britain never had it so good. |
ok.computer 06.02.2006 17:54 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: Dear ok computer, if that is your real name, I'll not have you dissing The Lady. Britain never had it so good.No, my name is Paul. And I still have no clue to what either of you are referring to, and I guess NOTWMEDDLE's response will ne'er be forthcoming. And just when I thought the board was lifting itself from the general malaise of BPP... Ah well. Relegation back to the "general discussion" board for me, I think. |
ok.computer 06.02.2006 18:15 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I've always disliked this music anyway. It's rubbish. "But this won't really do you much good. You'd really have to have been around in that period to know the effect and influence that Weller's work had." Yah but I didn't have to be around when they painted the Cistine Chapel to appreciate that. If it sucks in one decade, it'll suck in the next one. He's just a very ordinary musician. "Anybody in the UK who has a copy of yesterday's (feb 4) Guardian should read the piece about Weller. He was the Modfather. He was the new Pete Townshend and then some. He was of his time, and really took the working class hero in rock forward to new levels of appreciation." He was boring. "I think he's pretty much entitled to say whatever he wants." We *all* are, and we're also entitled to rip the shit out of it! :DLook you're 20 years of age, so I don't doubt that you are more than capable of articulating an opinion. What would be nice to see is more people justifying their opinion with some reasoned argument. But just to reiterate. I said that you should listen to the music again, but "you'd really have to have been around in that period to know the effect and influence that Weller's work had." This music was written in reaction to the social decay that was happening in London's sink-estates at the time. Which was an awful lot of places. I only lived in Belfast in the late Seventies - what would I know about urban decay, civil disorder and general rabble-sponsored mayhem? You weren't around in the period of 1536 - 1541 to see the painting of the End Wall in the Sistine. Neither was I. But we can both appreciate it. I hope, if you haven't already, that like me you will get to see it. It's really something. You were, however, not born when some of us had to live in the places that Weller wrote about. I was around, and I did live in them. So to clarify. Again. At the end of the Seventies and start of the 80's, unemployment was high, civil disorder was rampant, the streets were - quite literally - on fire. Weller's message was articulated through a lot of The Jam's work. It was incredibly important. I'm not arguing for musical importance - I'm saying that the usual "he's-not-Freddie-Mercury-and-he's-just-slagged-Freddie-Mercury-off-so-he's-a dork-and-he's-boring-and-his-music-is-irrelevant" just isn't good enough without opinion to justify it. For further reference, check out The Clash, Stiff Little Fingers, The Undertones, etc etc. Again, some of it is musical tripe. But if you want a picture of the times, you will find it more vividly there than in any book. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 06.02.2006 19:05 |
I went to see Oasis at one of Roger Daltrey's Teenage Cancer Trust gigs in 2002 at the Royal Albert Hall. Paul Weller joined them on stage and played piano on Dont Look Back In Anger........sorry, he fell on stage pissed with a fag hanging out of his mouth. Thats when I decided HE was a cunt. |
Adam Baboolal 06.02.2006 19:14 |
Ok.C, you're obviously into Paul Weller. But surely someone on a Queen forum (or any forum for that matter) is allowed to say they don't like the guy or his music without having to explain themselves. These things just have to be left as they are, sometimes. No need to go hunting for them and demanding they prove they have a clue about the person they just said they didn't like. I'll never forget when I was listening to a song by an artist and my mate said he didn't like her. When I asked why, he couldn't really explain. He just did. Which shows that really, sometimes, that's just the way some people are. You can't force them to come up with reasons to justify themselves to yourself. Just brush past these people if they frustrate you. Peace, Adam. |
ok.computer 06.02.2006 19:33 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Ok.C, you're obviously into Paul Weller. But surely someone on a Queen forum (or any forum for that matter) is allowed to say they don't like the guy or his music without having to explain themselves. [SNIP] You can't force them to come up with reasons to justify themselves to yourself. Just brush past these people if they frustrate you. Peace, Adam.Actually, I really am no fan of Paul Weller's what so ever. I was into The Jam at the tender age of whatever...but not a Paul Weller fan at all. To come back to Brian's Wig up there, I saw him play at the Royal Albert too - but it was on acoustic with Townshend - the REAL Modfather - and it was pretty darned good. But I still ain't a fan. I was really only there to see Entwistle. I don't find these people frustrating at all. I just had a couple of spare hours on a Monday night, and wanted to see if a couple of people up the board there could rationalise their thoughts into something beyond "he-slagged-Freddie-so-he-must-be-a-c**t". Guess I was wrong. At the end of the day, he/they expressed an opinion, and the right for others to do so I will defend to the death. But then so did I. Somebody on this board has the signature "I have survived situations more perilous than those I have faced here". He's right. Tomorrow I'll go back to work, life will continue and the world will turn. This site will be a memory until I'm back the next evening I'm bored. But to expect cogent and coherent arguments? Guess I was expecting a bit too much.... |
NOTWMEDDLE 07.02.2006 01:12 |
Negative Creep wrote: He was asked his opinion on these acts & he gave them. To suggest Paul Weller is uknown is beyond hilarious. Didn't break the US? Oh dear, what a failure. The US is the centre of the Universe, I forgot.The United States is the WORLD's LARGEST MUSIC MARKET! I can name many artists who failed to break in America which is the largest music market in the world. For instance here are some examples of those whom are or were immensely popular for most of the world yet were unknown in the US: Robbie Williams Paul Weller and The Jam(I never heard of these bozos until I heard the Grosse Pointe Blank soundtrack which featured their song Absolute Beginners and at first I thought it was Big Country but I was wrong) Scissor Sisters(despite they are from the US, they sold millions and are loved by Europe and so forth yet their own country hates them) Boyzone(we had to deal with American equivalent The Backstreet Boys or The Backside Boys as I call them) 5ive(which was the European equal to N'SYNC or as I say OUTTA SYNC) Kylie Minogue(only had two US hits yet is hugely popular outside the US) Motorhead, The Velvet Underground and The Ramones whilst not ever commercially successful have influenced more bands than some of those pop artists I mentioned ever would. |
NOTWMEDDLE 07.02.2006 01:20 |
ok.computer wrote:Zutons, Kaiser Chiefs, Oasis, Damon Albarn, Killers, The Strokes and White Stripes all s*ck! The White Stripes what is the big fucking deal on those assholes. The Strokes I tried to like yet found boring. Paul Weller was boring. I heard some songs of theirs on VH1 Classic and wasn't impressed, they all sound the same. Also, Absolute Beginners from The Jam I thought was a pale Big Country song as Weller sounded like the dude from Big Country to my ears, both crap.NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Paul Weller is a dork. The Jam sucked anyhow. Thank Christ they didn't break the US.You are, of course, entitled to your opinion - this is the beauty of the internet. On what basis do you assert that Paul Weller is a dork? How did The Jam "suck" musically? How do you figure that today's bands could exist without The Jam? Those who quote Weller and The Jam as influences include Zutons, Kaiser Chiefs, Oasis, Damon Albarn, Killers, Strokes, White Stripes - the list goes on. Perhaps you are stuck in a kind of glam rock timewarp of the Seventies? I dunno... Perhaps you don't feel that the above bands count for very much? I dunno. But I would like to hear your opinion justifying your comments. I don't doubt that The Jam couldn't break Amerika. They were working class boys from London, singing and writing about the downturn of the times as Thatcherism (that's a British Prime Minister, by the way) kicked in, and socialist values, the foundations of which were grown on Union principles were removed. Look at these lyrics from That's Entertainment. These pretty much sum up what it was like to live on a sink-estate anywhere in the UK in 1980. A police car and a screaming siren - A pneumatic drill and ripped up concrete - A baby wailing and stray dog howling - The screech of brakes and lamp light blinking - That's Entertainment. A smash of glass and a rumble of boots - An electric train and a ripped up 'phone booth - Paint splattered walls and the cry of a tomcat - Lights going out and a kick in the balls - That's Entertainment. And again, from Going Underground. Actually some of these should ring true with the Amerikan way of life.... You choose your leaders and place your trust As their lies wash you down and their promises rust You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns And the public wants what the public gets But I don't get what this society wants I'm going underground, (going underground) Well the brass bands play and feet start to pound Going underground, (going underground) And again, a picture of youthful ennui and a hatred of the original neo-con, the Conservative Government of the 1980's in Britain....these from the lyrics of Art School.... Young words are mumbled, they don't always last It's up to us to be sure they understand Who makes the rules that make people select Who is to judge that your ways are correct The media as watchdog is absolute shit The TV telling you what to think Anything that you wanna do, anyplace that you wanna go Don't need permission for everything that you want Any taste that you feel is right Now far be it from me to disagree with anybody. And I make no comment on the erstwhile career of Paul Weller, Style Council, solo or otherwise. But I'd really like to hear from a political perspective and your insight into the times - which you were around for, albeit on the other side of the Atlantic - just why The Jam sucked..? Perhaps you'd prefer to give a socio-political perspective on NWA? Paul Blur only had one US hit, they sucked anyhow. I am a hard rocker. Bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Triumph, The Scorpions and Motorhead all kick ass. I too like quasi-art acts like Roxy Music, Supertramp, David Bowie and Styx. Real prog like ELP, Genesis, Rush and Pink Floyd. Classic punk |
NOTWMEDDLE 07.02.2006 01:24 |
ok.computer wrote:I responded moron. I am 30 years old and like real music. I tried to like Radiohead but got bored with them rather quickly.Sir Archie Leach wrote: Dear ok computer, if that is your real name, I'll not have you dissing The Lady. Britain never had it so good.No, my name is Paul. And I still have no clue to what either of you are referring to, and I guess NOTWMEDDLE's response will ne'er be forthcoming. And just when I thought the board was lifting itself from the general malaise of BPP... Ah well. Relegation back to the "general discussion" board for me, I think. |
Rik&Roll 07.02.2006 08:01 |
Paul Weller has done some great things. But even if he hadn´t there´s no need to fall over him like many here seem to do. He calls FM a cunt. I don´t, I call him a genius. My opinion differs from someone I like. Can happen. And why was Queen´s strength that they weren´t political? I think their strength was that they made some great music. I am almost addicted to Queen, but I would have liked it if some songs had the political awareness that Weller had. Is this the world.... is quite horrible, could have used some Weller. Or.... In fact, that song points out Queen should stay far from politics. Doesn´t make them any less. Not any better too. |
john bodega 07.02.2006 08:45 |
"Look you're 20 years of age, so I don't doubt that you are more than capable of articulating an opinion. What would be nice to see is more people justifying their opinion with some reasoned argument." Yah but it's easy to discount someone's reasoning if you just don't like it. "But just to reiterate. I said that you should listen to the music again, but "you'd really have to have been around in that period to know the effect and influence that Weller's work had." Well no, not really. I'm hearing about it firsthand from you, but that's most certainly not what I'm crapping on. I took issue with shittybottom comments from a guy who's music failed to inspire me. I'm sure this punk, new wave, whatever you call it, had (and perhaps still has) it's place, but for me it's really nothing to write home about, and it's exponents usually bluff their way past their musical ability into some kind of reverie from the masses. They used to sing about how crappy the establishment was - now they *ARE* the establishment, and I'm getting ragged on for saying he's shit! Hehe. "This music was written in reaction to the social decay that was happening in London's sink-estates at the time. Which was an awful lot of places. I only lived in Belfast in the late Seventies - what would I know about urban decay, civil disorder and general rabble-sponsored mayhem?" Yah but the music was still lacklustre - it was probably great to listen to live, with a lot of other frustrated folk, sure enough. But that's not what I said. I said this guy wasn't so great musically, and he's shitting on some *genius* people in that statement (David Bowie? COME ON!). "You weren't around in the period of 1536 - 1541 to see the painting of the End Wall in the Sistine. Neither was I. But we can both appreciate it. I hope, if you haven't already, that like me you will get to see it. It's really something." I'll say. "You were, however, not born when some of us had to live in the places that Weller wrote about. I was around, and I did live in them. So to clarify. Again. At the end of the Seventies and start of the 80's, unemployment was high, civil disorder was rampant, the streets were - quite literally - on fire." Yeah - again, maybe he shoulda run for public office. Someone who throws words around like 'cunt' when discussing people who are basically more talented than him really is bad form. The least he can do is shuddup and do it at home. "Weller's message was articulated through a lot of The Jam's work. It was incredibly important. I'm not arguing for musical importance" Ah but I am, so you must be after the 'other' folk here. I really don't care enough for him to bother with his skills as a human being and someone there to relieve people's frustrations.... but I really don't like his music. "I'm saying that the usual "he's-not-Freddie-Mercury-and-he's-just-slagged-Freddie-Mercury-off-so-he's-a dork-and-he's-boring-and-his-music-is-irrelevant" just isn't good enough without opinion to justify it." Uh? Opinion to justify an opinion? Haha. That was *absolutely* not what I was saying (or at least, meaning to say). It might be easier for you to understand in that form, but that's not what I'm on about anyway. I slagged this guy off because he's a *dullard* and I don't like his music. Sure he was relevant at the time, but if you ask me The Young Ones more eloquently summed up shitty life in Britain than he ever did. "For further reference, check out The Clash, Stiff Little Fingers, The Undertones, etc etc. Again, some of it is musical tripe." It's not as though I waded into a thread like this blindly... sure, at first I really didn't know who Paul Weller was. But I know the music he did in The Jam, I know a lot of this stuff, I've heard it because my sister digs it. I don't. "But if you want a picture of the times, you will find i |
ok.computer 07.02.2006 10:47 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: I responded moron. I am 30 years old and like real music. I tried to like Radiohead but got bored with them rather quickly.Well I was just expecting something better than...a list of other bands... Anyway. Moron, eh? If that's the best riposte you can come up with, good luck to you in your life. I don't particularly like Radiohead either. But the album was sitting on my desk the day I was prompted for a user name. Aren't assumptions fab? You have assumed I am a moron. I obviously didn't need to make the same assumption about you... |
ok.computer 07.02.2006 10:53 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Look you're 20 years of age, so I don't doubt that you are more than capable of articulating an opinion. What would be nice to see is more people justifying their opinion with some reasoned argument." Yah but it's easy to discount someone's reasoning if you just don't like it.Look this is reasonably easy to comprehend. I haven't discounted your opinion. I have consistently supported other people's right to their opinion. All I have asked for is something a little more concrete than "your opinion is the opposite to mine so you're wrong". Which if you read back, is where I started. That's all. I think it's nice to do something a little more challenging than "Paul Weller's a dork". |
.DeaconJohn. 07.02.2006 14:39 |
Aside from all these arguments, I would just like to say thats is nice to see another Queenzoner from Northern Ireland. |
ok.computer 07.02.2006 16:15 |
.DeaconJohn. wrote: Aside from all these arguments, I would just like to say thats is nice to see another Queenzoner from Northern Ireland.Oh its not really an argument. Just trying to drag something a little more stimulating. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. Where are u from? I'm up in Coleraine. And then again, I can be found in Belfast a lot. And Derry. And occasionally, Dublin. But mainly Coleraine... |
.DeaconJohn. 07.02.2006 16:33 |
From Belfast, I'm a student at Queens Uni. Quite like the idea of moving out of Northern Ireland to be honest! |
ok.computer 07.02.2006 16:48 |
.DeaconJohn. wrote: From Belfast, I'm a student at Queens Uni. Quite like the idea of moving out of Northern Ireland to be honest!Do it now. We never had any money when I was your age, so I didn't do the travel thing. Get your loan, save some dosh and go. There's nothing here for you. Looking across the water myself at the moment. Might go and impose myself on the Brits! (preferably the Scots...) What are u studying? |
gem27 07.02.2006 17:50 |
Paul Weller could die tomorrow and he wouldnt get a tribute concert to fill wembley stadium thats all that needs to be said. (yeah i know Wembley isnt ready yet but you all know what i mean!) |
ok.computer 07.02.2006 17:57 |
gem27 wrote: Paul Weller could die tomorrow and he wouldnt get a tribute concert to fill wembley stadium thats all that needs to be said. (yeah i know Wembley isnt ready yet but you all know what i mean!)Thanks for that. You have enriched the debate. |
john bodega 07.02.2006 22:47 |
" I think it's nice to do something a little more challenging than "Paul Weller's a dork"." Yes but my argument *is* a little more than that. You're verbally jousting with the wrong guy, go pick on the twerp that made the Wembley jibe. |
Silent_Assassin_2 08.02.2006 02:28 |
Despite the fact Paul Weller slaged off Freddie, but he was rigt about Bob Geldof and Sting. |
mike hunt 08.02.2006 02:44 |
I don't think he said anything so wrong about freddie. sting is an idiot. |
Boy Thomas Raker 08.02.2006 10:50 |
Here's Bob Geldof's reply: "The Rats were a great band," he added. "We consistently outsold the Jam, which is probably what irritates him. The Jam were Who copyists. Then came the execrable Style Council, which was just an embarrassment. His solo stuff is better, but it's sort of Stevie Winwood-lite." |
.DeaconJohn. 08.02.2006 14:00 |
I'm doing Computer Science. In my infinate wisdom I opted for the undergraduate Masters degree with a years work experience, so thats a five year course in total... Got one final year after this and thats me done. Northern Ireland is going nowhere; when you visit other places you realize how pathetic it is. And poltically.... I no longer vote at all, because the lot of them disgust me. I personally fancy Edinburgh, I think it would be a really cool place to live. |
Sir Archie Leach 08.02.2006 17:57 |
ok.computer wrote:Guffaw. You just had to be Irish.Sir Archie Leach wrote: Dear ok computer, if that is your real name, I'll not have you dissing The Lady. Britain never had it so good.No, my name is Paul. And I still have no clue to what either of you are referring to, and I guess NOTWMEDDLE's response will ne'er be forthcoming. And just when I thought the board was lifting itself from the general malaise of BPP... Ah well. Relegation back to the "general discussion" board for me, I think. |
ok.computer 09.02.2006 05:55 |
Zebonka12 wrote: " I think it's nice to do something a little more challenging than "Paul Weller's a dork"." Yes but my argument *is* a little more than that. You're verbally jousting with the wrong guy, go pick on the twerp that made the Wembley jibe.I'll joust with anybody. And still not get my frilly undies in a twist. |
john bodega 09.02.2006 12:12 |
Jousting is fun. |
ok.computer 09.02.2006 19:41 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote:ok.computer wrote:Check your map, asshole...Sir Archie Leach wrote: Dear ok computer, if that is your real name, I'll not have you dissing The Lady. Britain never had it so good.Guffaw. You just had to be Irish. |
Sir Archie Leach 10.02.2006 14:45 |
Is being from N. Ireland not being Irish. You're all the same you lot. If you're not laying driveways badly you're letting horses run through your council estates. Don't you know. |
ok.computer 12.02.2006 12:31 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: Is being from N. Ireland not being Irish. You're all the same you lot. If you're not laying driveways badly you're letting horses run through your council estates. Don't you know.No. Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom. So we're British subjects. I'm happy to educate you in that subject, as we in Northern Ireland have consistently higher grades in our education system that the rest of the UK. Also, we don't lay driveways any more. We gave that up after building the English motorways systems, a job far too large and complicated to leave to the English. Nor do we have horses in our council estates. I find only English people of a certain persuasion feel the need to use that 18th Century mode of transport. To find horses in Council estates, you usually have to go 220 miles south of here. To Dublin. Where the Irish live... But I won't stoop to the same level of insults. It really takes someone from England (usually the South) to be *that* boorish... |
Sir Archie Leach 12.02.2006 18:11 |
'someone from England' You cheeky bastard. I bet you've got eyebrows on your cheeks though. |
ok.computer 13.02.2006 05:35 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: 'someone from England' You cheeky bastard. I bet you've got eyebrows on your cheeks though.No. We leave that to the sort of people who feature in the best and most accurate Tourist Board advert for Australia that has been issued in years: Wolf Creek. Now that you've got the internet, I'm sure you'll find someone other than your mother to mate with. That strange taste you experience when eating out your sister? That's your dad. |
Queenfred 14.02.2006 01:33 |
...Now THAT'S funny! |
.DeaconJohn. 14.02.2006 15:27 |
Haha brilliant. Northern Ireland - 1 .... England - 0 |
Sherwood Forest 14.02.2006 16:04 |
who's ppaul weller?? seriously i have no idea who he is |
Sir Archie Leach 15.02.2006 17:55 |
Oh how truly amusing. Not as funny as your 'no, my name is Paul' by a long way. Now do the world a favour and try and get hit by a bus...if your Third World country has one. |
ok.computer 15.02.2006 18:30 |
Sir Archie Leach wrote: Oh how truly amusing. Not as funny as your 'no, my name is Paul' by a long way. Now do the world a favour and try and get hit by a bus...if your Third World country has one.Oh dear. Is that the best you have? Come back when you're in a position to compete. "Third World", eh? Australia's hardly too....ummmm...cosmopolitan. Wolf Creek kinda proves that. Don't I remember people having to sign a petition to get Queen to Australia? Hmm. Seemed to tour here quite willingly. Backwaters like yours are just too far out of the way. Anyway, I'll let you have the last word. I'll not be back to this post. After that last attempt at wit of your's, all I could hear was the tumbleweed blowing across.... I don't like punching below my intellectual weight. Ciao for now. |
Sir Archie Leach 21.02.2006 17:37 |
Dear ok computer, I don't know how you found my msn name but I do wish you would refrain from messaging me. I do not wish you to be my 'bitch' nor do I feel the need to have you as a 'big gay bear'. And as for your 'don't knock it till you've tried it' attitude. If I wished to try it I wouldn't choose a fat spotty oik like you. |
john bodega 22.02.2006 10:42 |
" Seemed to tour here quite willingly. Backwaters like yours are just too far out of the way. " You're a dildo. Look, have a shit-fest with this fuckwit all you want, but leave my country out of it! |
Sir Archie Leach 23.02.2006 17:59 |
Don't you start you little shit. |
ok.computer 23.02.2006 21:06 |
Now now...easy, tiger. Sorry Zebonka....he started getting all personal and stuff. I don't normally sink that far, but...well....I couldn't resist. You'll understand if you read back a bit. :-) I will leave your country out of it....as it seems to have been left out of just about everything else. Nice fireworks on that Opera House thing, though. Job's a good 'un, there. |
john bodega 24.02.2006 12:03 |
Fair 'nuff ok.computer. "Don't you start you little shit." What the fuck are you on about now??? |
gimmetheprize 24.02.2006 19:23 |
Paul Weller in no uncertain terms is just a twat whos head has always been stuck up his arse for years, mention the Style Council to him if you ever see him that will shut the arsehole up |
bigc 25.02.2006 11:05 |
this thread is completely pathetic. I love the Jam. I actually love The Style Council(dont laugh) I love Queen. Weller can think what he likes, its his own personal opinion. Conformity is so boring. I can't believe we've got all these nobodies on the board saying they don't even known who Paul Weller is. He is very famous and it implies a degree of musical ignorance. Shout To The Top was used for the Billy Elliot soundtrack though, so Ballet to the Masses Paul? He can think what he likes, and Freddie could have thought what he liked about Paul, doesnt diminish my musical appreication for either! |
john bodega 25.02.2006 11:34 |
"I can't believe we've got all these nobodies on the board saying they don't even known who Paul Weller is. He is very famous and it implies a degree of musical ignorance." Hey I know who he is (now), just took a while to link a name with a face (or sound). Having said that, I wish I didn't know who he was. Ignorance is bliss. If it's his right to rag on people, and your right to like him, isn't it implied that we have a certain right to poke fun at him? Aren't *you* the one taking things too seriously, bigc? And what is a big C anyway? I think we both know! |
bigc 25.02.2006 13:34 |
I just meant people trying to imply they didnt know who he was, and that somehow discredits him. I just meant...we like who we like..and people like who they like. I just find threads like this...I dunno..a bit too partisan. |
john bodega 25.02.2006 14:32 |
A valid comment. Unforunately, people liking (or not liking something) very often results in threads like this, it's a by-product if you will. |
mod45 25.06.2007 17:07 |
OMG...who are you people who say you have never heard of Paul Weller?? Have you been locked in a small dark room for your entire lives?!?! He is the single most influential person involved in the British music scene today! I don't know the words to describe how influential this man has been to the majority of even the current bands! From the likes of Oasis (obviously) to Danny from mcfly, when he was young Weller was the only thing he could play on guitar!! C'mon wake up people!! I can immediately judge everybody who says they have never heard of him or his work, its not even just paul weller its any influential indivdual who may just be before your generation! you are just a trend follower, you follow the charts, you know nothing about music just the songs which are on top of the pops! If you hear a song on the radio you're the type of person who says "ooo i love this song" but when asked about it you dont know the band, you dont even know the song name! Get a grip!! Paul Weller has acheived so much in his career he has the temperament and character to be able to pull off slagging anybody! It's the same as The Gallaghers (dont dare say you dont knpw who they are)!! Sure Freddie Mercury was good, but did he change the face of music...no! Did he write inspiring lyrics and melodies...no! Did he set trends for modern fashion and culture...no! Jesus get it into your thick skulls! Have a little bit of sanctity and awareness in your lives PLEEASE!! Xx |
goodco 25.06.2007 19:54 |
This thread has been locked in a dark room for sixteen months. Congrats on waking it up (sigh) btw, I'm too lazy to google. WTF is Paul Weller? |
Dan C. 26.06.2007 16:38 |
I meant to reply to this when it first came up about a year ago... Anyway, I never did like his music and now I REALLY don't like him as a person. Anyone who can make a comment like that about David Bowie of all people OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what the Hell they're talking about. Didn't he have a new record coming out at the time? Great publicity, being a douche bag. |
Daniel Nester 26.06.2007 18:37 |
This is a looong thread, but someone does mention Roger slagging on The Jam back in 1979-80, yes? |
gem27 27.06.2007 12:19 |
Paul Weller played Live Aid with the Style Council the same day as Freddie and Queen. 1 band were voted by almost all, the best band of the day, the other band are never mentioned in any Live Aid best performance discussion. Paul Weller is a tit. |
Johncarlos 20.04.2013 22:58 |
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS LOSER? DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE FACTS STRAIGHT!! IT WAS SID VICIOUS WHO SAID THAT QUOTE NOT FM. WHAT AN ASS |
Johncarlos 20.04.2013 23:01 |
I DO NOT FUCKING CARE WHO WELLER IS NEVER HEARD OF HIM AND I DO NOT CARE IF HE FOUND THE CURE FOR CANCER!!!! IF HE HAD ABY TALENT HE WOULD BE KNOWN OUTSIDE HIS NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU DO NOT BLAST GREATS LIKE FREDDIE MERCURY, DAVID BOWIE, STING ETC.... FUCKING LOSER |
brENsKi 21.04.2013 03:29 |
Johncarlos wrote: WHO THE FUCK IS THIS LOSER? DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE FACTS STRAIGHT!! IT WAS SID VICIOUS WHO SAID THAT QUOTE NOT FM. I DO NOT FUCKING CARE WHO WELLER IS NEVER HEARD OF HIM AND I DO NOT CARE IF HE FOUND THE CURE FOR CANCER!!!! IF HE HAD ABY TALENT HE WOULD BE KNOWN OUTSIDE HIS NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU DO NOT BLAST GREATS LIKE FREDDIE MERCURY, DAVID BOWIE, STING ETC.... FUCKING LOSER WHAT AN ASSwow!!! way to go congratulations on an impressive self-control on the anger issues. you managed to keep the lid on it for almost SEVEN years - well done what's really impressive - is the level of anger you contained....this is a genuine rage, you should be commended - that's some magnitude of self-restraint - by any standards - how DID you keep it bottled up for 2,124 days ? |
Planetgurl 21.04.2013 04:39 |
This spat went back to when Roger slagged off 'Setting Sons' and especially 'Eton Rifles'. I seem to remember it was to do with class, as he was talking about the 'Sup up your beer and collect your fags' lyric and how it was working class - can't remember what had been put to him but obviously the journalist must have accused Queen writing music for the more privileged classes. I must find the article...... |
Holly2003 21.04.2013 05:30 |
The Jam were important to the British music scene at a certain point in time, and have had a lasting impact, particularly with NME readers i.e those typically who like a bit of politics in their music. They also represented a particularly British style of music and by implication rejected American cultural dominance, particularly of the airwaves. For example, they didn't sing with fake American accents like David Coverdale, or try the mid-Atlantic 'DJ' accent loved by so many BBC Radio One DJs in the 1980s. No surprise then that Weller doesn't like Fred or Queen, who mostly avoided political songwriting (and when they didn't, their attempts were a bit laughable at best, and ridiculous and hypocritical at worst). Different bands, from different eras, with different approaches to songwriting and presentation, so hardly a surprise there's no mutual respect. The Jam's most interesting song is probably Smythers-Jones, but only because it's reminiscent of The Beatles 'A Day in the Life'. Also, for those old enough to remember or care (and I should warn you now you are about to enter geek town), 'Going Underground' was inspiration for some of 2000AD's best characters, Nemesis the Warlock and Torquemada. 'Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave!' lol |
Johncarlos 21.04.2013 13:21 |
Family secret we can contain our rage foe decades!! I was unaware that there was a time limit for replies. Yeah 7 years and still think wellwer is an ass. Rock on dude |
splicksplack 22.04.2013 06:42 |
The ignorance and opinionated shit on this thread is mind-blowing. I got into Queen at Seven Seas Of Rhye when the UK music scene was full of glam rock, prog rock and novelty records. Punk/new-wave sought to give it a good shaking and strip away the exess shit. And some fantastic music came out as a result. One of those bands was The Jam. Paul Weller developed his song-writing in the public eye and every album got better. Then he binned it and started The Style Council which covered totally different styles. The thing is he didn't allow himself to get stuck in a musical rut but his skill with melody ran through everything he did even if your politics didn't fit his lyrics. By the 1980 Queens best days were behind them and I was getting into different music. But all those early Queen albums (and Bowie, Rush, T. Rex, Led Zep, even Boston) have just as proud a place as anything I got into since, like Paul Weller, Blur, The Smiths. Divine Comedy etc. Why some people can't appreciate different stuff at the same time is beyond me. And someone's opinion does not have a bearing on their talent. Weller has an angry streak and sometimes spouts off without thinking as he has admitted himself. However his views are heartfelt and on the side of working class people. Roger, on the other hand, comes over as a spoilt brat who desperately wanted to be part of the cutting edge at the time of punk but just looked daft (green hair at Saarbrucken? Sheer Heart Attack?) and couldn't accept his time of credibility was over. BTW, whoever said Queen were apolitical - what about Roger's 'Worldwide Nuclear Ban Now' t-shirt? At the end of the day Roger has £70 million or whatever and is an international star, while Paul Weller (also worth a fair bit) is limited to Europe and crucially the one that will be remembered for era-defining brilliant song writing. 'Town Called Malice', 'That's Entertainment' and ' Going Underground' or 'Drowse' ' Radio Ga Ga' and 'Fun It'? |
brENsKi 22.04.2013 13:21 |
agree with this ^^^ 99.99%, take out the Divine Comedic C*nt... excellent post... btw - add to that list other bands doing intereting stuff in the 70s....floyd, purple etc.. |
Queen fan 22.04.2013 14:34 |
A town called MALICE? NOT SURPRISED He obviously has been very angry for a long time and wanted his award not to go unnoticed and so by using his chief inspirational gift, (that of his anger) he divised his malicious little plan to publicise said reward receiving , by this outpouring of his creative mainstay, this vicious bitterness. obviously in the fear that if he didn't do some angry quotes to go along with it, nobody would notice his receiving the award. lol. |
splicksplack 23.04.2013 07:55 |
I think you need to read up on Weller a bit. Then you might realise how totally un-informed that post is. |
AlbaNo1 25.04.2013 15:32 |
splicksplack wrote: I think you need to read up on Weller a bit. Then you might realise how totally un-informed that post is.Ive seen Weller twice in concert and have a few albums.However his original quote is wrong and I also dont like his tendency, shared by some other bands of that era, to divide people into "class" . |