|I really can't believe it's been 15 whole years. What a brilliant album which has aged beautifully.
TeaKettleResurrection wrote: Also was the last actual Queen album. ROTC isn't Queen.Made in Heaven was the last one, BPP.
|Then whose voice is on MIH, asshole?
|Do you not realize how stupid you're being?
|i think Innuendo was the last queen album as a 4 member group
i think MIH is indeed queen
|According to your logic, even if it's a Queen song with Freddie's vocals, it isn't a Queen song. That makes so much sense!
TeaKettleResurrection wrote: Queen died in 1991, anything after isn't Queen.He's right, actually. In fact, Phil Hartman was murdered before some of his last episodes of the Simpsons actually aired. Some might say that it isn't really Phil Hartman anymore...very interesting thing to think about.
|15 years and there are still people thinking Roger wrote Innuendo ;)
Btw, nobody's asked my opinion but I'm saying it anyway: yes, Innuendo was the last Queen album. Made In Heaven is a compilation with only three 1991 tracks.
|All I Hear Is Radio Gaga
|Woa, that's really cool to know, thanks!
|yeah, incredible album they really poured their hearts out on that one
|All I Hear Is Radio Gaga
|Yea they really did, it's amazing
|tea kettle u are such a fuking moron.....i hope he get killed by a car...your logic is why your country is so stupid....get brain cancer
|Mrs Roger Taylor
|O my god it is, i better just go listent to it now!i love that song
Sebastian wrote: 15 years and there are still people thinking Roger wrote Innuendo ;) Btw, nobody's asked my opinion but I'm saying it anyway: yes, Innuendo was the last Queen album. Made In Heaven is a compilation with only three 1991 tracks.i do agree with that
|WOW.... 15 years? time has run so fast...
I became a fan when Innuendo was released... i was 10 years old, and listening Innuendo on the radio was like seeing god...
That moment made a mark in my life... before and after Innuendo... ill have to celebrate this... 15 years as a queen fan...
By the way.... when it was released, i loved MIH... but when i realized that most of these songs where solo works, Bsides and other crap... the magic was gone... now i dont consider it as a queen album... Its just a compilation...
... but, i still suport Queen + PR tour...
|Isn't it amazing how any topic can be turned into RIP QUEEN 1991?
|I think Innuendo is a magnificent album and the first they released during the Queen revisionist era when pretentious music magazines began to realise the band's greatness. Consequently reviews were desrvingly positive. It was almost a miracle for me- I never thought- depsite the undoubted strength of The Miracle- that Queen would ever release a hard rock, orchestral masterpiece again, and they did.
TeaKettleResurrection wrote: Queen died in 1991, anything after isn't Queen.It was recorded before then moron.
|I'm 18 today! (feb. 4)
Sheer Pressure wrote: I'm 18 today! (feb. 4)Well then, happy birthday. :-)
Freddie recorded songs as he was dying because he wanted the music to go on. Yes, some of the MIH songs were recorded earlier, and some are solo works revisited. So? MIH may not be the be all, end all of Queen albums, but it's a work of love from the band we love. I simply do not get the fuss.
|Of course Made In Heaven is a labour of love etc etc and it's wonderful etc etc but imo it doesn't count as a Queen album. It's more a remix of old things plus three 1991 tracks.
In 1993 Brian said they were gonna release en EP since there were only few tracks done after Innuendo. But I guess they would've earned much more bread & honey with an entire album so there you go ;)
|I always thought Freddie wrote Innuendo...I'm sure there's a topic about this somewhere haha...
Speaking of MIH - it is indeed a compliation of old demos, b-sides, solo tracks reworked and 1991 tracks, but I consider it a Queen album.
The 3 1991 tracks though are... Mother Love, A Winter's Tale & You Don't Fool Me ?
Let Me Live (1983), My Life Has Been Saved (1989) and It's A Beautiful Day (1980?)...
|This album is one of the greatest statements in rock history, Queen found here all the elements from the past and mix them, it's a beautiful recordin, only a few "last album" by any artist exist, comes to my mind "Abbey Road" "Pink Moon". And i really don't get all this crappy controversy about what is the last queen album or when queen die, the topic is clear "Innuendo 15 years old today", so, talk bout music and their legacy in it.
Innuendo is an album full of energy, passion, love and a little of nostalgia, Mercury imo never sounds so fantastic and so organic than here, it's for me his best performance ever, besides his illnes, his voice is pure magic.
|I'm not sure what I think about Made In Heaven.
If all the tracks were from 1991 Freddie vocals that the band finished the music for over 93/94/95 then I'd see it as no different than any other Queen album. But the fact that they took vocals from old songs that Freddie didn't even intend to be Queen songs when he recorded them spoils it a bit for me.
It also ruins the chronological order of the albums, listening to each album and seeing how freddie's voice and the playing and writing styles of each member developed across the 15 albums, if the 15th album has vocals and song compositions from all random years on it.
However, they didn't have enough songs to fill an album, and Freddie's vocals were wasted anyway in Roger's so-so solo version of Heaven For Everyone and Freddie's not-all-that solo versions of Made In Heaven and I Was Born To Love You. And the resulting album we got was fantastic if you just listen to the songs and not quibble about how/when they were made. And it's certainly Queen, because it was written and peformed by Freddie, Brian, John and Roger. What more do you have to do to be classed as Queen??? The question is whether it's a Queen compilation, a Queen original studio album, or what.
My take is that the music is all new (new as in post Innuendo), some of the vocal are new, and the rest of the vocals can be seen as samples.
So I have no trouble seeing this as the 15th Queen album (or 14th if you don't count Flash), though as I said it is annoying when you're trying to think about how Freddie's voice was sounding in 1991 and you remember this particular vocal is from the 80s.
Regarding the actual subject of this thread, I love Innuendo. I remember my mum getting it when it was released (ditto the miracle). The OTT approach to the album does sort of hark back to albums 1-5 but in a totally new way. It was fitting that the last (ish) album gave a nod to the first few, but did so without going back over old ground. And I LIKE Deliliah.
|Freya is quietly judging you.
TeaKettleResurrection wrote: I know it was recorded before that, I'm saying that Queen died in 1991.Yes, I think you might have mentioned that before..
|I'm not into it that Let Me Live is from 1983 and It's a beautiful day is from 1980...where did you get your information? Freddie's voice on both those songs sounds like 1987-1988 at the earliest...
|That's why I feel MIH isn't an album but a compilation: chronology. Same as Rocks: there's one new song plus some re-worked bits for the others but that's it. Otoh everything in MIH is "new": new version of I Was Born, new version of My Life Has Been Saved, new (=previously unreleased) version of Too Much Love, new (previously unknown by most) version of Beautiful Day, etc.
|The prophet's song
TeaKettleResurrection wrote: Queen died in 1991, so since Freddie wasn't around in 1995, its not Queen.My god! Freddie sang the songs, he wrote most of the lyrics, he recorded it with them, just because he wasn't alive when it came out doesn't mean it's not Queen!!!! You are disgrasing his final wish - to sing "untill I fucking well die"
PainPleasure<br><h6>QZ Pimp</a> wrote: I'm not into it that Let Me Live is from 1983 and It's a beautiful day is from 1980...where did you get your information? Freddie's voice on both those songs sounds like 1987-1988 at the earliest...Well, I worked out a little while back that IABD was from the Game recordings and then a few months later it was confirmed by Greg/Brian. You just have to be able to understand the sound and the vocal quality to get the answer.
If you genuinly believe those two tracks are from 1987/88 then, compare tracks from Barcelona and Miracle tracks. That should prove interesting listening. You'll notice the difference for sure.
|Mrs Roger Taylor
|Sheer Pressure wrote:
I'm 18 today! (feb. 4)
well my burthday is on october 28 when news of the world was released (but i was born in 1992)
|"Queen died in 1991, so since Freddie wasn't around in 1995, its not Queen."
Wrong. They released the 3 1991 tracks on MIH with Freddie's blessing. He *wanted* it released. That's good enough for me - one of the many occasions where the wishes of a dead man mean a lot more than those of a *barely* living idiot like yourself.
|I also believe that Innuendo was Queens last album. Sure you can think that MIH and ROTC count as Queen, but really, it actually does not.
|"I also believe that Innuendo was Queens last album."
|People in this site like to run in circles!
|" People in this site like to run in circles!"
So do Formula 1 drivers but don't knock it, they get paid a *shitload*.
|That guy who digs energy domes
Bobby_brown wrote: People in this site like to run in circles!Yes I do like to run in circles........Well, actually its an oval and its 400m and I have to do 8 laps.
|That's right, you changed your name to Brian's Permed *Pants* didn't you?
|If Queen died in 1991 and BPP is no longer a fan, then why does he continue to exist??
I think he secretly LOVES Paul Rodgers. He's probably got the ROTC DVD and the beach towel out right now...
TeaKettleResurrection wrote: Linda Of The Valley- xD poodle you've been HUMILIATED. You don's know Queen's discography! How so? All i'm saying that Innuendo was Queens last album BECAUSE FREDDIE WAS STILL ALIVE THEN. I don't see MIH and ROTC as Queen. And stop calling me poodleYou shouldn't be so quick to judge. You have contributed NOTHING to any debate other than to witter on in support of, or as an alias of the most vilified person on this group.
Go find a rotunda and sit in the corner. That should occupy you for at least the next three weeks.
|it's my birthday today too (feb 7) now i'm 21 .
By the way i love the Innuendo album, but now i'm listening to the very last called RETURN OF THE CHAMPIONS which is a great live album after all this time! :-) :-)
|This thread is about Inneundo, TeaKettle you fool. I can say with confidence that we *aren't* listening to Paul Rodgers on the Innuendo album (unless it's his voice that says 'hey hey hey' in Ride the Wild Wind).