| Saint Jiub 29.01.2006 23:54 |
FreddiesDumbCunt here has absolutely no brains and won't understand any of the arguments here either. The only one in here who "need[s] to be taken out and shot" is you, for saying that! Why don't you give us all a break and go die for your country, will you, you right-wing nationalist piece of shit? Good. Die for your country. Rather you than an innocent young man. link Topic Starter: I hope you get shot. I hope they make you bleed to death. Slowly. Your sense of 'humour' is sub-par even for the average monkey. You suck. You are not funny. You are pathetic, a retard and mindnumbingly annoying. link Seeing as Dudley is a racist, mentally unstable sub-human fucking asshole, this is right up his alley. I hope some crazy hunter mistakes him for an elephant or something... link You could assassinate George W. Bush. I'm sure many people would be very grateful if you did (just too bad about the few that think differently). Yes, but with Bush out, a VP with massive heart-failure running the country and the people unhappy, elections aren't far off... link I think I'm going to torture and kill you. link Ha, the fascist far-right neo-nazi Ogrish member returns. What gave it away? The absence of skin-head racists? Or just the fact that people here don't continually state that the Jewish people or the black population of America should be wiped out? On this Ogrish site, Barry found a Neo-Nazi (plenty of those there) who linked to Barry's profile. Barry checked it out and found a guy from New Jersey, which just happens to be where Music Man is from. He somehow traced him to QZ and contacted me after I stated that I found Music Man's comments highly nationalist in nature. I checked out the guy Barry contacted me about (I'll post his Ogrish nickname here as soon as I find it. It's somewhere in an e-mail I have), and although I cannot check myself whether it is indeed Music Man through IP or anything, I must say that I found such striking similarities in use of language (idiom, sentence construction) and style of writing that I come to the conclusion that Music Man and the anonymous nazi are one and the same. I've already told you what I have seen, heard and chosen to believe. I'm not going to bother spending time on the three of you (MM, Zeni and most especially Rip), mainly as I couldn't care less about you. You're pathetic, and I'm not lowering myself to your level. If you don't believe me, which you don't, be my guest. That's your problem, not mine. link |
| Maz 30.01.2006 01:38 |
I knew there was a reason they threw that book out of the Bible. |
| Serry... 30.01.2006 06:47 |
QueenZone.Com -> AntiArleneRWeissZone.Com -> AntiThomasQuinnZone.Com -> ?Zone.Com... |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 13:09 |
Woah. whats wrong with a little nationalism? I happen to love the country I live in and Im not afraid to say it. I understand that some other people dont understand what a privelage it is to live in the USA. However, Thomas is a very, well, refreshing person to talk too considering that his political views are almost the exact opposite of mine; yet, he is not an idiot about it and actually has reasons to back his view. |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 13:16 |
Nationalism in all sorts of ways is wrong. There's no justified reason why someone should believe that one nation (under the rule that is YOUR nation) should have the right to opress another nation. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 13:21 |
Nationalism is strong pride in one's nation. Im a nationalist; you're looking for an imperialist. |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 13:26 |
Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: Nationalism is strong pride in one's nation. Im a nationalist; you're looking for an imperialist.Then you might mean... PATRIOTIC. A TRUE patriotic person admits flaws and mistakes by his own nation, and speaks out about what should be done to make things better. The nationalist believes in the superiority of one nation above the rest. The Nazi party of Germany was Nationalist Socialist, and believed in the superiority of Germany and the Aaryan race. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 13:28 |
Well, Ive been a member of the GOP since I was 11. You decide. |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 13:33 |
Moderate Republicans admit the mistakes George W. Bush has made in his administration, and don't use patriotism (or christianity) as a tool to brainwash American citizens into believing that they're right. If there's going to be a Republican president in 2008, hopefully it will be a moderate. |
| Micrówave 30.01.2006 13:36 |
hmmmm... I smell a "Bush is Nazi" coming.... *yawn* |
| Sonia Doris 30.01.2006 13:36 |
oh... :( another negative topic... cookies anyone? |
| Lisser 30.01.2006 14:12 |
<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote: oh... :( another negative topic... cookies anyone?I'm eating a Butterfinger Crisp right now. And GAWD is it yummy. |
| Sonia Doris 30.01.2006 14:16 |
Lisser wrote:niiiice ^,^<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote: oh... :( another negative topic... cookies anyone?I'm eating a Butterfinger Crisp right now. And GAWD is it yummy. but still my cookies are yummier. :P |
| Saint Jiub 30.01.2006 19:55 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Wow. You've sunken deeper than I though was possible. How does that feel, Rip?All I did was quote your death threats and lies from your exact quotes from the last two weeks. What have I stated that is incorrect? I fail to see how I sunk to your level in this topic, as I have not propogated lies nor issued death threats. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 20:28 |
Wow Rip, youve accomplished the impossible- Make me want to defend Thomas |
| Saint Jiub 30.01.2006 20:57 |
Are you going to defend the lies or the insults? Everything I quoted in this topic is DOCUMENTED and TRUE. What is the problem? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 21:03 |
Im going to defend his right to oppose my political views. |
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| Smitty 30.01.2006 21:07 |
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| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 21:09 |
Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: Wow Rip, youve accomplished the impossible- Make me want to defend ThomasI won't be defending Caspar because indeed he seems to resolve discussions with insults and personal threats. However, it seems such a waste of time to create a whole new thread against someone when just about every single person on this board knows about Caspar's discussion tactics. Even Sarajane, who is the receiving the great majority of Caspar's threats and insults seems to be taking it pretty easy. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 21:15 |
Smitty pretty much summed it up |
| Saint Jiub 30.01.2006 21:20 |
I said nothing about the USA. There are dozens of Queenzoners who are less than thrilled with the USA, but yet most are vastly different than Caspar: They express their opinions without issuing death threats or spreading vicious lies. They also behave much more civilly on QZ. |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 21:22 |
Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: Smitty pretty much summed it upAmerica!! America!! America, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way yeah, Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too, America, FUCK YEAH! So lick my butt, and suck on my balls, America, FUCK YEAH! What you going to do when we come for you now, it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow |
| Saint Jiub 30.01.2006 21:32 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Several people seem to think that Caspie is a "nice opinionated young man", so I started this topic as a reality check.Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: Wow Rip, youve accomplished the impossible- Make me want to defend ThomasI won't be defending Caspar because indeed he seems to resolve discussions with insults and personal threats. However, it seems such a waste of time to create a whole new thread against someone when just about every single person on this board knows about Caspar's discussion tactics. Even Sarajane, who is the receiving the great majority of Caspar's threats and insults seems to be taking it pretty easy. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 21:42 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:I prefer American MadeQueen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Bitch</h6> wrote: Smitty pretty much summed it upAmerica!! America!! America, FUCK YEAH! Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah, America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way yeah, Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too, America, FUCK YEAH! So lick my butt, and suck on my balls, America, FUCK YEAH! What you going to do when we come for you now, it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow He's got the red, white and blue running through his viens He was born and raised in the U-S Of A He wears the hood of his country on his sleeve Fighting for freedom better move out of the way He's an American made, an American made |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 21:56 |
Hey, where's Toby Keith?? You can't leave out the most patriotic music star on the U.S.A.? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 21:58 |
I am a real American Fight for the rights of every man I am a real American Fight for what's right Fight for your life! When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside You've gotta take a stand it wont help to hide If you hurt my friends, then you hurt my pride I've gotta be a man, I cant let it hide I am a real American Fight for the rights of every man I am a real American Fight for what's right Fight for your life! Now I feel strong about right and wrong And I dont take trouble for very long Ive got something deep inside of me Courage is the thing that keeps us free! I am a real American Fight for the rights of every man I am a real American Fight for what's right Fight for your life! |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 22:03 |
American girls and American guys We'll always stand up and salute We'll always recongnize When we see Old Glory flying there's alot of men dead So we can sleep in peace at night when we lay down our head My daddy served in the Army when he lost his right eye But he flew a flag out in our yard till the day that he died He wanted my mother, my brother, my sister, and me To grow up and live happy in the land of the free Now this nation that I love has fallen under attack A mighty sucker punch came flying in from somewhere in the back Soon as we could see clearly through our big, black eye Man,we lite up your world like the 4th of July Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist And the eagle will fly and its gonna be hell When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell And it'll feel like the whole wide world is raining down on you Brought to you courtesy of the red, white, and blue Justice will be served and the battle will rage This big dog will fight when you rattle his cage You'll be sorry that you messed with the US of A Cause we'll put a boot in your ass it's the American way Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist And the eagle will fly and its gonna be hell When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell And it'll feel like the whole wide world is raining down on you Brought to you courtesy of the red, white, and blue Ohhh Of the red, white, and blue Ohhh |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 22:14 |
God Bless America Land that I love stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above From the mountains to the praries to the oceans- white with foam! GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME- GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME! |
| yamaha 30.01.2006 22:25 |
If tomorrow all the things were gone I'd worked for all my life, And I had to start again with just my children and my wife, I'd thank my lucky stars to be living here today, 'Cause the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that away. And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free, And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me, And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today, 'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God Bless the U.S.A. From the lakes of Minnesota to the hills of Tennessee, Across the plains of Texas from sea to shining sea. From Detroit down to Houston and New York to L.A., well There's pride in every American heart and it's time we stand and say: that I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free, And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me, And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today, 'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God Bless the U.S.A. And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free, And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me, And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today, 'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God Bless the U.S.A. I figured I would share my own personal favorite. |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 22:26 |
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like, its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, i can teach you, but i have to charge I know you want it, the thing that makes me, what the guys go crazy for. They lose their minds, the way i wind, i think its time la la-la la la, warm it up. lala-lalala, the boys are waiting My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like, its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, i can teach you, but i have to charge i can see youre on it, you want me to teach the techniques that freaks these boys, it can't be bought, just know, thieves get caught, watch if your smart, la la-la la la, warm it up, la la-la la la, the boys are waiting, My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like, its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, i can teach you, but i have to charge Once you get involved, everyone will look this way-so, you must maintain your charm, same time maintain your halo, just get the perfect blend, plus what you have within, then next his eyes are squint, then he's picked up your scent, lala-lalala, warm it up, lala-lalala, the boys are waiting, My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like, its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, i can teach you, but i have to charge HA HA!! BEAT THAT!!! |
| That guy who digs energy domes 30.01.2006 22:49 |
Ha haaa nice but RHCP Sir Psycho Sexy can top that! A long long long long time ago before the wind before the snow lived a man lived a man I know lived a freak of nature name Sir Psycho Sir Psycho Sexy that is me Sometimes I find the need to scream! aaaaaaaah haaaaaaaaaa! Hes a freak of nature but we love him so Hes a freak of nature but we let him go Deep inside the garden of Eden standing there with my hard on bleedin theres a devil in my dick and some deamons in my semen a good God? No, that would be treason Believe me Eve, she gave good reason Booty, looking too good not to be squeezing Creamy Beaver, hotter than a fever and I'm a giving cause she's the reciever I wont and I dont hang up untill I please her Making her feel like an over achiever take it away for a minute just to tease her then I give it back a little bit deeper Sir Psycho Sir Psycho YEAH! He's the man that I met one time Sir Pyscho Sir Psycho YEAH! He's the man that left me blind Sir Psycho Sir Psycho YEAH! He's the man hes the man he's the man Sir Psycho Sir Psycho YEAH! Aaaaaaaaaah haa ahaa SHIT! Hes a freak of nature but we love him so Hes a freak of nature but we let him go Oh I got stopped by a lady cop in my automobile she said get out and spread your legs then she tried to cop a feel that cop she was all dressed in blue was she pretty? Boy Im telling you she stuck my butt with her big black stick I said "Whats up now SUCK MY DICK!" Like a ram getting ready to jam the lamb she wimpered just a little when she felt my hand On her crotch so very warm I could feel her getting wet through her uniform Propping her up on the black and white unzip and slip-Ohhh thats tight! Swatted her like no SWAT team can turned a cherry pie right into JAM! Sir Psycho Sir Psycho YEAH! Im the man that you met one time Sir Pyscho Sir Psycho YEAH! Im the man that'll leave you blind Sir Psycho Sir Psycho YEAH! Im the man Im the man Im the man Sir Psycho Sir Psycho YEAH! Now I lay me down to sleep I pray the funk will make me freak If I should die before I wake-ed Allow me lord to ROCK OUT NAKED! Bored by the ordinary, time to take a trip Calling up a little girl with a bull whip lickety split go SNAP SNAP Girl getting off all over my lap The tallest tree, the sweetest sap Blowing my ass right off the map! Ohh, and its nice out here; I think I'll stay for a while! Ha! Top that! |
| Mr.Jingles 30.01.2006 23:01 |
Nice, nice... nice indeed! Love the Chili Peppers. But let's see how you top this... SO WHAT! (Anti-Nowhere League) So fucking what! Well, I've been in Hastings And I've been in Brighton I've been in Eastport too So what So what And I've been here I've been there I've been every fucking where So what So what So what, so what, you boring little cunt Who cares Who cares what you do Yeah, who cares Who cares about you (Repeat) Well, I've fucked a queen I've fucked fucked I've even sucked an old man's cock So what So what And I've fucked a sheep I've fucked a goat I rammed my cock right down his throat So what So what So what, so what, you boring little fuck Who cares Who cares what you do And who cares Who cares about you (Repeat) And I've drunk that I've drunk this I've spewed up on a pint of piss So what So what I've had scank I've have speed I've jacked up until I bleed So what So what So what, so what, you boring little cunt Who cares Who cares what you do Yeah, who cares Who cares about you (Repeat) I've had crabs I've had lice I've had the clap and that ain't nice So what So what I've fucked this I've fucked that I've even fucked a school girl's twat So what So what So what, so what you boring little fuck Who cares Who cares what you do And who cares Who cares about you (Repeat) So fucking what! |
| greaserkat 30.01.2006 23:28 |
<font color=gold>§mï<font color=1>ttÿ™ wrote: How 'bout more? |
| jcrawford79 31.01.2006 00:21 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Are you going to defend the lies or the insults? Everything I quoted in this topic is DOCUMENTED and TRUE. What is the problem?I see no problem. You simply posted what everyone has seen for themselves in the past. I personally don't have any problems with him but it does get irritating to watch him pride himself on his liberal, free-for-all views and then at the same time viciously attack those who don't agree with him. To disagree with someone is acceptable, to personally degrade their character is rediculous. |
| Smitty 31.01.2006 06:17 |
greaserkat wrote:The sad part is that you quoted the WHOLE thing...<font color=gold>§mï<font color=1>ttÿ™ wrote: How 'bout more? George W. Bush! George W. Bush... Oh yeah! GO BUSH!!!Go suck his dick already. And don't tell me what to do. |
| Lisser 31.01.2006 09:46 |
Thomas and I certainly have differing opinions and views on almost everything. However, he's never attacked me when I've voiced my opinions and I've never attacked him when he voices his. I'm not exactly sure why he doesn't attack me but I'd like to think it's a mutual respect sort of thing. I could be wrong. Of course I could do without his insults to other board members but he does have a right to voice his opinion and express himself how he wants to, as does everyone else on here that disagrees with him. He is who he is and although I don't like it at all that he has wished death on some people for voicing their opinion, I do have to say that I admire him even being interested in politics and thinking of what could be good for the world at his young age. When I was his age, I cared nothing about politics, history, taking care of the earth, etc. So for that, I am proud of him. I just wish he'd take a different route to get his point across. Then, I think more people would be receptive and possibly share some of his views. Besides that fact that I know he really does not wish death upon the people he says it to. He just gets a little too worked up over what he feels is right. I guess what I'm saying is I admire his drive and his compassion for what he feels is right. I don't like the avenue he chooses to display what he thinks is right and I don't agree with a lot of what he thinks is "right." I just like his ambition is what I'm trying to say. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 31.01.2006 10:11 |
I'll do it..... Bush is a Nazi. :-) |
| Maz 31.01.2006 11:19 |
Lisser wrote: Thomas and I certainly have differing opinions and views on almost everything. However, he's never attacked me when I've voiced my opinions and I've never attacked him when he voices his. I'm not exactly sure why he doesn't attack me but I'd like to think it's a mutual respect sort of thing. I could be wrong. Of course I could do without his insults to other board members but he does have a right to voice his opinion and express himself how he wants to, as does everyone else on here that disagrees with him. He is who he is and although I don't like it at all that he has wished death on some people for voicing their opinion, I do have to say that I admire him even being interested in politics and thinking of what could be good for the world at his young age. When I was his age, I cared nothing about politics, history, taking care of the earth, etc. So for that, I am proud of him. I just wish he'd take a different route to get his point across. Then, I think more people would be receptive and possibly share some of his views. Besides that fact that I know he really does not wish death upon the people he says it to. He just gets a little too worked up over what he feels is right. I guess what I'm saying is I admire his drive and his compassion for what he feels is right. I don't like the avenue he chooses to display what he thinks is right and I don't agree with a lot of what he thinks is "right." I just like his ambition is what I'm trying to say.Allow me to kindly disagree with you, Lisser. No one denies that he has the right to his opinion, and I personally think that teenagers with political opinions are a dime-a-dozen, especially since I see them everyday. Friendly debate can be productive and, dare I say, fun. But that's not what we get with Caspar, and I speak from personal experience. I don't ever remember insulting Caspar, yet I have seen many of those insults thrown my way ("go play in traffic" being a favorite). This is not intelligent debate but immature bullying. And, perhaps to back up Rip's point: link "We have several people here who post topics in which the feelings of other people are being hurt." Is it not hypocritical to point out the hurtful comments by others when you engage in them as well? |
| Maz 31.01.2006 11:28 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Say what you will about me, or think what you will about me; with me, you can at least be certain of what you are up against, which is, good or bad, something that cannot be said of a great many people.Why must this be a battle? Since when must political or social debate be a fight? Whatever happened to the friendly exchange of ideas? |
| Haystacks Calhoun 31.01.2006 11:33 |
Very good question. If the Democrats here in America could actually come up with an idea rather than their brand of venom and hatred, they could perhaps win an election or two.... Short of that, I don't know what it will take. I thought 9/11 would bring us together, but that lasted about 2 1/2 weeks, then the idiots like Pelosi and Kennedy started popping off.... |
| Lisser 31.01.2006 12:33 |
Zeni wrote:You are right, Zeni, that we do not get a friendly debate from Thomas and he is hypocritical in the sense that he has asked for banning of hurtful comments by others but also partakes in them himself.Lisser wrote: Thomas and I certainly have differing opinions and views on almost everything. However, he's never attacked me when I've voiced my opinions and I've never attacked him when he voices his. I'm not exactly sure why he doesn't attack me but I'd like to think it's a mutual respect sort of thing. I could be wrong. Of course I could do without his insults to other board members but he does have a right to voice his opinion and express himself how he wants to, as does everyone else on here that disagrees with him. He is who he is and although I don't like it at all that he has wished death on some people for voicing their opinion, I do have to say that I admire him even being interested in politics and thinking of what could be good for the world at his young age. When I was his age, I cared nothing about politics, history, taking care of the earth, etc. So for that, I am proud of him. I just wish he'd take a different route to get his point across. Then, I think more people would be receptive and possibly share some of his views. Besides that fact that I know he really does not wish death upon the people he says it to. He just gets a little too worked up over what he feels is right. I guess what I'm saying is I admire his drive and his compassion for what he feels is right. I don't like the avenue he chooses to display what he thinks is right and I don't agree with a lot of what he thinks is "right." I just like his ambition is what I'm trying to say.Allow me to kindly disagree with you, Lisser. No one denies that he has the right to his opinion, and I personally think that teenagers with political opinions are a dime-a-dozen, especially since I see them everyday. Friendly debate can be productive and, dare I say, fun. But that's not what we get with Caspar, and I speak from personal experience. I don't ever remember insulting Caspar, yet I have seen many of those insults thrown my way ("go play in traffic" being a favorite). This is not intelligent debate but immature bullying. And, perhaps to back up Rip's point: link "We have several people here who post topics in which the feelings of other people are being hurt." Is it not hypocritical to point out the hurtful comments by others when you engage in them as well? I'm not in a position to see teenagers and younger people with political opinions or knowledge on world issues. The kids I see on a daily basis often don't come to school with underwear or socks on and have not bathed in almost a week. So, you are correct in what you say about Thomas. I'll never disagree with you there. While I do not enjoy his method of voicing his opinions or name-calling, I do admire his strong stance on what he believes in. I'm just trying to point out something positive I suppose in yet, another very negative thread. But, you are very correct in what you say Zeni, as usual!!! :) /hijack-there is a cutey pie of a JRT in a local petshop here. I do not like to buy animals from petshops though. I prefer rescues, but GOSH!!! He's soooooo damn cute!! Should I??? /hijack |
| @ndy38 31.01.2006 12:38 |
Zeni wrote:Some people on QZ have such 'controversial' political views that it sometimes impossible to have a friendly exchange of ideas. Topics such as the War in Iraq and the Death Penalty are such emotionally driven issues that i guarantee you that it wont be pretty, it'll get personal, especially with some of the people who post on these forums.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Say what you will about me, or think what you will about me; with me, you can at least be certain of what you are up against, which is, good or bad, something that cannot be said of a great many people.Why must this be a battle? Since when must political or social debate be a fight? Whatever happened to the friendly exchange of ideas? |
| Saint Jiub 31.01.2006 13:59 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Wow! You make me look like an optomist.Zeni wrote:That was killed, together with democracy, by the shared boot of a bureaucrat and a totalitarian a long time ago.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Say what you will about me, or think what you will about me; with me, you can at least be certain of what you are up against, which is, good or bad, something that cannot be said of a great many people.Why must this be a battle? Since when must political or social debate be a fight? Whatever happened to the friendly exchange of ideas? |
| Sonia Doris 31.01.2006 14:04 |
cookies? |
| Saint Jiub 31.01.2006 14:10 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Fascist??? for suggesting the Democrats have no ideas? Talk about hyperbole.Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Very good question. If the Democrats here in America could actually come up with an idea rather than their brand of venom and hatred, they could perhaps win an election or two.... Short of that, I don't know what it will take. I thought 9/11 would bring us together, but that lasted about 2 1/2 weeks, then the idiots like Pelosi and Kennedy started popping off....Another fine example of a fascist in his purest form. I suppose you'd have all Democrats shot if you had your way, hmm? Need I remind you that a) the most corrupt presidency ever (Harding) b) the only president ever to to be removed from office (Nixon) c) the president with the largest toll of dead American soldiers on his conto (Nixon) Were all Republicans? And there's more than just this. It's just the tip of the iceberg. The Democrats could have done much better than the "defeat Bush" rhetoric of Gore or Kerry. Even Howard Dean would have been better. At least he had ideas, although he is a bit of a flake. |
| Serry... 31.01.2006 14:12 |
Break, gentlemen! No contest. |
| Sonia Doris 31.01.2006 14:13 |
Each one take a cookie, and shake hands! |
| Haystacks Calhoun 31.01.2006 15:10 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:You have made my point for me.Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Very good question. If the Democrats here in America could actually come up with an idea rather than their brand of venom and hatred, they could perhaps win an election or two.... Short of that, I don't know what it will take. I thought 9/11 would bring us together, but that lasted about 2 1/2 weeks, then the idiots like Pelosi and Kennedy started popping off....Another fine example of a fascist in his purest form. I suppose you'd have all Democrats shot if you had your way, hmm? Need I remind you that a) the most corrupt presidency ever (Harding) b) the only president ever to to be removed from office (Nixon) c) the president with the largest toll of dead American soldiers on his conto (Nixon) Were all Republicans? And there's more than just this. It's just the tip of the iceberg. Thank you. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 31.01.2006 16:15 |
True democracy is just an illusion. Quasi-communism would be a fine system. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 31.01.2006 16:33 |
Yup, thinking (and rightfully so) that Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy are idiots means that I am a fascist, and want Democrats shot... |
| Maz 31.01.2006 16:40 |
Lisser wrote: /hijack-there is a cutey pie of a JRT in a local petshop here. I do not like to buy animals from petshops though. I prefer rescues, but GOSH!!! He's soooooo damn cute!! Should I??? /hijackI'm with you on the petshop thing. Would much rather rescue a dog, which I've done in the past, then get one from a petshop. But if it's really cute, get two :) Also, for Caspar: Harding ran on a "return to normalcy" plan which meant retreating from international affairs and becoming isolationists. Completely different than modern-day Republicans. That's the problem with labels. |
| Saint Jiub 31.01.2006 17:22 |
Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Yup, thinking (and rightfully so) that Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy are idiots means that I am a fascist, and want Democrats shot...Ok ... shooting is bad. What about drowning? link |
| Mr.Jingles 31.01.2006 18:29 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote:On one side we have Democrats who have no ideas, and then we have Republicans who only have ideas that benefit themselves, their cronies, and the wealthy people who finance their political campaigns.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Fascist??? for suggesting the Democrats have no ideas? Talk about hyperbole. The Democrats could have done much better than the "defeat Bush" rhetoric of Gore or Kerry. Even Howard Dean would have been better. At least he had ideas, although he is a bit of a flake.Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Very good question. If the Democrats here in America could actually come up with an idea rather than their brand of venom and hatred, they could perhaps win an election or two.... Short of that, I don't know what it will take. I thought 9/11 would bring us together, but that lasted about 2 1/2 weeks, then the idiots like Pelosi and Kennedy started popping off....Another fine example of a fascist in his purest form. I suppose you'd have all Democrats shot if you had your way, hmm? Need I remind you that a) the most corrupt presidency ever (Harding) b) the only president ever to to be removed from office (Nixon) c) the president with the largest toll of dead American soldiers on his conto (Nixon) Were all Republicans? And there's more than just this. It's just the tip of the iceberg. BOTTOM LINE: Both parties SUCK! |
| Saint Jiub 31.01.2006 19:31 |
I am hoping that the Republican party will improve somewhat if McCain becomes the Republican nominee for president in 2008. I voted for McCain in the 2000 Republican presidential primary, and I will vote for him again in 2008. |
| Haystacks Calhoun 31.01.2006 19:32 |
I voted for McCain as well.... |
| That guy who digs energy domes 31.01.2006 22:07 |
I'll give you the same answers I gave the GOP survey Q: Did you vote in 2000? A: No, 11 year olds cannot vote Q: Did you vote in 2002? A: No, 13 year olds cannot vote Q: Did you vote in 2004? A: No, 15 year olds cannot vote You'd think theyd get the message. |
| yamaha 01.02.2006 00:09 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: c) the president with the largest toll of dead American soldiers on his conto (Nixon) Were all Republicans? And there's more than just this. It's just the tip of the iceberg.That hit me as a very incorrect statement, then I found proof (see link below). It would help your arguements, I you were to provide proof of what you say. Also, the Vietnam War started several years before Richard Nixon was elected. If I recall correctly, JFK was the first president to send troops to Vietnam. Please, pin more faults to the coats of Republican Presidents. I dare you. link Thomas, you should be happy to hear this. Every 20 years, except for Reagan, the president has died in office. This trend started in 1840 with William Harrison. 1860, Lincoln. 1880, Garfield. 1900, McKinley. 1920, Harding. 1940, Roosevelt. 1960, Kennedy. 1980, the only exception so far. 2000, Bush? |
| Haystacks Calhoun 01.02.2006 09:04 |
yamaha wrote:Mr. Quinn has never been one to let the truth stand in to way on one of his short-sighted rants.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: c) the president with the largest toll of dead American soldiers on his conto (Nixon) Were all Republicans? And there's more than just this. It's just the tip of the iceberg.That hit me as a very incorrect statement, then I found proof (see link below). It would help your arguements, I you were to provide proof of what you say. Also, the Vietnam War started several years before Richard Nixon was elected. If I recall correctly, JFK was the first president to send troops to Vietnam. Please, pin more faults to the coats of Republican Presidents. I dare you. link Thomas, you should be happy to hear this. Every 20 years, except for Reagan, the president has died in office. This trend started in 1840 with William Harrison. 1860, Lincoln. 1880, Garfield. 1900, McKinley. 1920, Harding. 1940, Roosevelt. 1960, Kennedy. 1980, the only exception so far. 2000, Bush? |
| deleted user 01.02.2006 11:17 |
One thing I learned from Queenzone is that Rip Van Winkel is the definition of foolishness. He likes to "quote" you than change the words and give it another interpretation, and half of the times he concludes your a racist. No metter what you did, wether you spoke german in stead of english or you said someone is a idiot, and that person comes coincidentally from another country. The real racist is the person who things that. I'd like to see your name spelled different: R.I.P. Van Winkel P.S. I bet he's now going to accuse me of death threats XD |
| Rick 01.02.2006 11:29 |
I thought Rip was a kid! :D |
| Serry... 01.02.2006 12:11 |
Serry... wrote: QueenZone.Com -> AntiArleneRWeissZone.Com -> AntiThomasQuinnZone.Com -> ?Zone.Com...AntiRipVanWinkleZone.Com -> who's next? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 01.02.2006 13:02 |
AntiQ.O.W.com? |
| Mr.Jingles 01.02.2006 13:18 |
<font color=black>Dennis Daja<h6>QZs God wrote: One thing I learned from Queenzone is that Rip Van Winkel is the definition of foolishness. He likes to "quote" you than change the words and give it another interpretation, and half of the times he concludes your a racist.Like the time he brought up that anti-Clinton rant, mentioning the time that he raped a woman 30 years ago, but she never spoke about it because she was scared no one would believe her. That one nearly topped Sarajane's accusations of Michael Schiavo being a racist man who wouldn't allow anyone but white nurses taking her of his wife. Like Stephen Colbert would say, it's all a matter of TRUTHINESS. |
| Sonia Doris 01.02.2006 13:26 |
cookies? |
| Maz 01.02.2006 13:33 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: Under Kennedy and Johnson, fewer people died than under Nixon.Wrong, Caspar. Wrong. link Another Aspect - US Military Battle Deaths By Year: * Prior to 1966 - 3,078 (Total up through 31 Dec 65) * 1966 - 5,008 * 1967 - 9,378 * 1968 - 14, 589 (Total while JFK & LBJ were on watch - 32,053) * 1969 - 9,414 * 1970 - 4,221 * 1971 - 1,381 * 1972 - 300 (Total while Nixon was on watch - 15,316) A simple, "my mistake" will do, Caspar. |
| Sonia Doris 01.02.2006 13:43 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I was just trying to bring peace among people... :'(<font color=#CC0066>Sonia Doris</font> wrote: cookies?Try a different topic. |
| Lisser 01.02.2006 13:46 |
Thomas, I'm afraid you'll find it difficult to argue or debate with Zeni on history's facts and numbers. She is the Guru!!! I also need her to have a little of JRTs for me to pick from so a little butt-kissing on my part, but oh well. |
| Mr.Jingles 01.02.2006 13:51 |
Caspar is just speaking based on TRUTHINESS. However, for better results in a debate try Google or Wikipedia. Then TRUTHINESS might become TRUTH. |
| Saint Jiub 01.02.2006 16:03 |
link Last I heard, the Washington Post is a respected newspaper ... Paul Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broaddrick are known accusers against Clinton. In fact, Broaddrick was Jane Doe #5 in Jones' lawsuit against Clinton. At least 5 women accused Clinton of sexual assault. Would you allow your daughter anywhere near this man? |
| Saint Jiub 01.02.2006 16:48 |
<font color=blk>Sasha<font color=red>38 wrote: Shouldn't it be the Gospel *according to* St. Thomas?I considered it, but I shortened the topic title. |
| yamaha 01.02.2006 17:08 |
The man had the balls to play the field like that, but settled on Hillary? WWWEEEEEEEEE!!!! |
| Mr.Jingles 01.02.2006 18:33 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: link Last I heard, the Washington Post is a respected newspaper ... Paul Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broaddrick are known accusers against Clinton. In fact, Broaddrick was Jane Doe #5 in Jones' lawsuit against Clinton. At least 5 women accused Clinton of sexual assault. Would you allow your daughter anywhere near this man?Anyone who doesn't report a crime right after the time of the assault should go to jail. It seems like 20 years after the incident this woman goes: - WAAAAAHHHH!! NOBODY WOULD BELIEVE ME!! - WAAAAAHHHH!! I WAS ASS RAPED BY CLINTON!! - WAAAAAHHHH!! WHHHHHHAAA!! WHHHHHAAAA!! I don't care if you were raped by the most popular and lovable goodie-two-shoes in the world. It could be Brian Boitano, Tom Hanks, or Clay Aiken, but regardless of who committed the crime the first thing to do is report it to the authorities. If Clinton was actually guilty of rape, the woman should be ashamed of allowing a criminal to walk free. Man, maybe I should sue Clinton for raping my dog in 1985. I'm sure someone would believe me. It seems like the trend is now too 1998. Too bad it has gone out of style. |
| Saint Jiub 01.02.2006 19:19 |
Sure, criminalize the victim. Rape victims love media scrutiny. Hence Kobe walked free. link |
| That guy who digs energy domes 01.02.2006 22:18 |
Oh say can you see? By the dawn's early light What so proudly we hailed At the twilight's last gleaming Who's broad stripes and bright stars Through the perilous fight Oer the ramparts we watched Were so gallantly streaming And the rockets red glare The bombs bursting in air Gave proof through the night That our flag was still there! Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave? For the land of the free! And the home of the brave! |
| Maz 01.02.2006 22:41 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Typical.<font color=blk>Sasha<font color=red>38 wrote: Shouldn't it be the Gospel *according to* St. Thomas?You can't expect Rip to get anything COMPLETELY right, can you now? |
| Lester Burnham 02.02.2006 10:37 |
I just don't understand. Maybe it's the pacifist in me, but why can't we all just get along? Sure, ThomasQuinn may threaten people with death and impose his overblown sarcasm on everyone, but does that make him any less personable? Well, I suppose it does. But really - what is this achieving? No one's ever going to agree with everyone, especially politically, so what's the point in fighting about stuff we can't control? Thomas, you've got to realize that death threats and personal insults just don't cut it. This may be the Internet, and I know it's not in your nature to, you know, be nice to people, but your way isn't always the right way, and to threaten people otherwise for not believing what you say just isn't right. Anyway, I'll step out now, because I've already lost interest in trying to justify my contribution to this thread. |
| Maz 02.02.2006 11:00 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:All I ask is that if you chose to promote your views, you actually have the facts to back them up. Unfortunately, more often than not, your facts are wrong. When that's pointed out to you, you ignore it and insult others, as evident here. There's nothing wrong with admitting a mistake. It might actually mean people take you seriously more often.Zeni wrote:Same here regarding your response.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Typical.<font color=blk>Sasha<font color=red>38 wrote: Shouldn't it be the Gospel *according to* St. Thomas?You can't expect Rip to get anything COMPLETELY right, can you now? There's no need to grow up bitter at the world; try having some fun with life rather than insulting others over political differences. Life doesn't have to be a contest of who's right or wrong all the time. Have a great day, Caspar. (And Lester can't be trusted. He's all hands) |
| great king rat 1138 03.02.2006 11:58 |
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| great king rat 1138 03.02.2006 11:59 |
<font color=gold>§mï<font color=1>ttÿ™ wrote: How 'bout more? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 04.02.2006 19:21 |
You know, those "death threats" were at me and I actually find the idea funny. Think of it- A 17 year old comes from the Netherlands to assassinate President Bush and a runner from Wisconsin. -thats almost laughable But Thomas will never understand what a privelage it is to live in the USA so I leave this thread with GOD BLESS AMERICA |
| Fairy 05.02.2006 10:31 |
Some verses out of the Gospel according to Thomas: Criticize those who won't hurt you; praise those who threaten you. Enjoy the freedoms others have earned for you, but speak against those who are fighting to keep them alive. Keep saying you hate your country, but never move out. Never speak against criminals...it might be dangerous. Speak against your own kind...this can never hurt you. Pledge to do what you know you could never do; never pledge to do what you might be able to do. Love your enemies...despise your friends. The former are dangerous, the latter are not. Tell people to turn the other cheek, when you know you do not. LOL!!! |
| Mr.Jingles 05.02.2006 19:49 |
Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Slave</h6> wrote: You know, those "death threats" were at me and I actually find the idea funny. Think of it- A 17 year old comes from the Netherlands to assassinate President Bush and a runner from Wisconsin. -thats almost laughable But Thomas will never understand what a privelage it is to live in the USA so I leave this thread with GOD BLESS AMERICAWhy is it that some Americans think that this is the only nation that gives people FREEDOM? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 05.02.2006 22:11 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I live in a free country. USA is the land of the free.Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Slave</h6> wrote: But Thomas will never understand what a privelage it is to live in the USAMy dad lived there for 20 years. I know enough. You don't know what it's like to live in a free country. I do. Or at least I did, before that fascist Balkenende got in control. |
| yamaha 06.02.2006 14:43 |
Thomas, did you just liken yourself to a Muslim terrorist? I don't think you meant to, but that's what I think you are saying. |
| yamaha 06.02.2006 14:43 |
*double post deleted* |
| Mr.Jingles 06.02.2006 17:15 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Ask North Koreans if they love their country. The great majority will say that they live in the best country in the world, and the rest will get a bullet through their brain.Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Slave</h6> wrote:In China, Mao told the people that they were living in the best country in the world. The Chinese believed that too. I hope you can spot the analogy.<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:I live in a free country. USA is the land of the free.Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Slave</h6> wrote: But Thomas will never understand what a privelage it is to live in the USAMy dad lived there for 20 years. I know enough. You don't know what it's like to live in a free country. I do. Or at least I did, before that fascist Balkenende got in control. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 06.02.2006 21:01 |
What, other than my own affinity for the USA is forcing me to say that it is a great country? |