QueenZone discussion #706787

Serry... wrote: Starfleet was re-released on Japanese "Ressurection" single...

Serry... wrote: Starfleet was re-released on Japanese "Ressurection" single...

Thanks wrote: It's not a question of whether they're still making money from it. It's a question of owning the rights to it, which they still do, and theefore the answer is "no"

jeroen wrote:

Serry... wrote: Starfleet was re-released on Japanese "Ressurection" single and on two seperate EU Back To The Light singles! ;-)

Well, whadda you think of that?! :-)
(lol, this could actually could get very confusing for some people :D

QueenFan1982 wrote:

Thanks wrote: It's not a question of whether they're still making money from it. It's a question of owning the rights to it, which they still do, and theefore the answer is "no"

That's a reasonable answer, but then how come if it hasn't been officially released, say like a Miracle demo, so noone "officially" owns the rights then? That can't be cause then wouldn't someone here just take it and sell it, who could stop them then? So why wouldn't they care if you throw up a whole possible future box set, but go nuts if you put up something from A Night at the Opera? I'm not looking to be annoying, just starting a conversation.

QueenFan1982 wrote: Don't know if this has been addressed, but can you put stuff up that was released but is no longer being produced, like the Starfleet album? If so that would be awesome I lost mine. If not that's cool, just wondering.

John S Stuart wrote:

QueenFan1982 wrote: Don't know if this has been addressed, but can you put stuff up that was released but is no longer being produced, like the Starfleet album? If so that would be awesome I lost mine. If not that's cool, just wondering.

As far as this site is concerned - NO official downloads. Period.

Zebonka12 wrote: It's an unwritten thing basically, unless your name is Saul Zaentz there's a tiny bit of leeway with 'unofficial material'. As soon as they notice people making money off of a bootleg, all of a sudden things get very heavy. It's the only reason Live AID is on DVD anyway, because Bob Geldof saw money getting thrown away on shitty copies when it could go to charity. To answer your question - there really isn't any difference between what the call 'official stuff' and the rest that gets uploaded here. It allllll belongs to someone else, and I reckon they'd probably have the ability to crack down and take it all away - they just don't.

QueenFan1982 wrote:

John S Stuart wrote:

QueenFan1982 wrote: Don't know if this has been addressed, but can you put stuff up that was released but is no longer being produced, like the Starfleet album? If so that would be awesome I lost mine. If not that's cool, just wondering.

As far as this site is concerned - NO official downloads. Period.

Relax dude, I only asked a question you don't have to look to fight I'm not asking anyone to put anything up that they shouldn't nor am I putting anything up.

Zebonka12 wrote: Maybe it was the capitals.

jeroen wrote: It's prohibited to post ANY product in here that was EVER officially released. That's not OUR will - it's QueenProductions' will. We just want to save this website from being shut down by QueenProductions. So if you don't understand or disagree; argue with THEM. Cheers!

QueenFan1982 wrote:

Thanks wrote: It's not a question of whether they're still making money from it. It's a question of owning the rights to it, which they still do, and theefore the answer is "no"

That's a reasonable answer, but then how come if it hasn't been officially released, say like a Miracle demo, so noone "officially" owns the rights then? That can't be cause then wouldn't someone here just take it and sell it, who could stop them then? So why wouldn't they care if you throw up a whole possible future box set, but go nuts if you put up something from A Night at the Opera? I'm not looking to be annoying, just starting a conversation.

Bobby_brown wrote:

QueenFan1982 wrote:

Thanks wrote: It's not a question of whether they're still making money from it. It's a question of owning the rights to it, which they still do, and theefore the answer is "no"

That's a reasonable answer, but then how come if it hasn't been officially released, say like a Miracle demo, so noone "officially" owns the rights then? That can't be cause then wouldn't someone here just take it and sell it, who could stop them then? So why wouldn't they care if you throw up a whole possible future box set, but go nuts if you put up something from A Night at the Opera? I'm not looking to be annoying, just starting a conversation.

I share your point of view! I mean, this site has rules and have to live by them, but Queenproductions are dumb!!! Really, i don't say we shared the official albums, but some B-sides wouldn't hurt as much as Demo tapes, but for them it's the complete oposite. Singles were released just for that period, they don't get re-releases (until now), and the band isn't making money with them anymore. So, it wouldn´t cause them anny trouble if some B-sides were shared. But, demo tapes that can guive them lots of money in the future, they don't mind (it´s not official). DUMB PEOPLE. They don't think about it, they just go with the flow and do it as it was before. It´s one of those rules... Take care

QueenFan1982 wrote: If someone puts say "Stealin'" up here, it's considered wrong cause it was official. But chances are, they are never going to release that again, except on a box set that people would be buying really for the demos, because let's face it, everyone on here has Stealin' from either downloading it or buying it.

Rip Van Winkle wrote: Newsflash: QP will be releasing a CD single this x-mas, and have narrowed it down to 2 choices (never before released on CD): CD Single #1: A Human Body, A Dozen Red Roses for My Darling & Blurred Vision OR CD Single #2: Face It Alone, Africa by Night & Sandbox Obviously, CD Single #1 will be preferred by Queen fans because, QP enforces copyrights more stringently for the songs from CD Single #1???

QueenFan1982 wrote: Thanks you're such a loser. Stop acting like a lawyer, cause I know you probably work at Wal-Mart. I'm simply asking questions, not trying to start a war, but I know you love to fight. I never said I wanted to upload Stealin', it's called an EXAMPLE (I know you love the caps). I never said I wanted to start a site, I just said "Why can't we?" Maybe next time before you speak, read my post. Just a suggestion. Ok, now your turn smart ass.

Thanks wrote:

QueenFan1982 wrote: If someone puts say "Stealin'" up here, it's considered wrong cause it was official. But chances are, they are never going to release that again, except on a box set that people would be buying really for the demos, because let's face it, everyone on here has Stealin' from either downloading it or buying it.

If everyone has it, why does it need to be uploaded? BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO THE QUEEN HUB.

QueenFan1982 wrote: The money to be made at this point is from unreleased songs or demos,

Then why would they include Stealin on a box set? TO MAKE THE BOX SET AS COMPLETE AS POSSIBLE, AND PUT ALL NON-ALBUM SONGS IN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION.

QueenFan1982 wrote: ... they don't seem to care are being downloaded right now,

No? Make a web site, try it, see how quick EMI have you prosecuted. THE QUEEN HUB HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS WITHOUT ISSUES, AND IT ALLOWS SHARING OF OUT OF PRINT MATERIAL. EVEN BRIANMAY.COM USED TO HAVE LINKS (TIMELILY) FOR DOWNLOADING OUT OF PRINT MATERIAL.

QueenFan1982 wrote: Oh well, I'm sure I'll be yelled at for having an opinion but people that have opinions often do get yelled at.

Not everyone that has an opinion gets yelled at. But if your logic is as weak as this, your arguments will get taken apart every time, you'll get defensive, mis-construe it as personal criticism, be rude back and then discover that others are better at THAT than you as well.... WHATEVER

Other guy, what's wrong with deli workers? Someone's got to make sandwiches for those too stupid and/or lazy to make their own....

Thanks wrote: Rip, all your responses seem to be about the Hub. The points I was making concerned this site. The points you made (about the Hub) do not apply to this site.