| Walter B. 19.01.2006 02:23 |
According to link a live DVD will be released March 29th. This will likely be the Tokyo concert. Title: Live in Japan 2005 labelnumber: TOBW 3296 |
| Rompez 19.01.2006 03:06 |
Great that it will be released so soon! It was just a matter of time, as all filmed japanies Queen concerts were officially released there (excluding Tokyo'79 wich is only a partly filmed). |
| Fenderek 19.01.2006 06:51 |
YES!!!! |
| Walter B. 19.01.2006 15:34 |
From another Japanese site: it will be a 2 disc set: link |
| Rompez 19.01.2006 15:41 |
Return Of The Champions of our dreams? |
| Michael Allred 19.01.2006 16:25 |
and who wants to bet this will be released in Japan only like the 2 80s shows? |
| Rompez 19.01.2006 16:54 |
Yes, but it's always possible to get a copy. Not to expansive ;) |
| Michael Allred 20.01.2006 15:26 |
If I'm not mistaken, Japan is a different region code from the US so ordering it wouldn't help me much. |
| YourValentine 20.01.2006 16:00 |
Japan is region 2 NTSC and it's not a 2 disc edition. HMV Japan just offers a discount if you buy 2 (different) DVDs. |
| Rompez 20.01.2006 16:21 |
Michael Allred wrote: If I'm not mistaken, Japan is a different region code from the US so ordering it wouldn't help me much.There's no need to ordering it in Japan. I mean here in Russia i've got Final Live In Japan for about 5$ (instead of ~50$) without any regional encoding:) |
| JeroenG 20.01.2006 17:56 |
Rompez wrote:And probably an unofficial version!Michael Allred wrote: If I'm not mistaken, Japan is a different region code from the US so ordering it wouldn't help me much.There's no need to ordering it in Japan. I mean here in Russia i've got Final Live In Japan for about 5$ (instead of ~50$) without any regional encoding:) |
| Rompez 21.01.2006 04:16 |
Pirate ofcourse. I'm not ready to give 50$ for it. It's FAR to expansive. |
| [ Wybren™ ] 21.01.2006 05:58 |
Some details: Genre: Rock & Pop Format: DVD Number of Discs: 1 Region Code: 2 (Japan) Colour: Colour Resolution: NTSC (Japan) This version issued: 29 Mar 2006 Catalogue Number: TOBW3296 Label: toshiba EMI Item sourced from: Japan Other: Live Recording, 2005 Does anyone know how much ¥4,640 is in €€€ or $$$? |
| tonbi1975 21.01.2006 12:14 |
4,640yen is about $40 now. I saw Japanese Tower Recoad site and it shows number of disk is 2. I haven't seen the dvd imfomation on Amazon Japan site yet.I hope I can find out a right imfomation soon. |
| Michael Allred 21.01.2006 16:50 |
If they're not gonna release a new DVD, then the group should put this Japanese show out in the US as well (especially if it's a 2 disc set.) |
| Jjeroen 22.01.2006 04:31 |
Don't worry... No doubt they will film a show or two in the USA. If the US-tour becomes a succes as well, I'm sure they will not hesitate to put yet another DVD in the market. |
| YourValentine 22.01.2006 05:07 |
It's not a 2 DVD edition - look at the product details Wybren already posted. HMV Japan has an English version, just click on "English" in the left upper corner of the page and you will see that the DVD is a "2 MusicDVDs at 20% off promotion title", which means you pay a multi-buy discount price of ¥4,640 if you buy a second (other!) DVD. link |
| Walter B. 22.01.2006 05:13 |
YourValentine wrote: It's not a 2 DVD edition - look at the product details Wybren already posted. HMV Japan has an English version, just click on "English" in the left upper corner of the page and you will see that the DVD is a "2 MusicDVDs at 20% off promotion title", which means you pay a multi-buy discount price of ¥4,640 if you buy a second (other!) DVD. linkIt is getting confusing isn´t? According to two other sites link and link it will be a 2-disc set. |
| YourValentine 22.01.2006 05:51 |
Interesting. I wonder what "or other unit" means... 2 discs would be even better, of course. |
| AlexRocks 22.01.2006 09:49 |
I thought that both U.S. concerts from last year were filmed? If they weren't that's terrible that their return to the U.S. wasn't documented...I really hope that that is not true. I also thought that both Japan concerts were filmed...is that not also true? |
| safkjgs 22.01.2006 19:51 |
Two-Disc according to QOL. |
| Maz 22.01.2006 20:41 |
From QOL:
Release Date March, 29, 2006 Tracklisting Disc 1. Concert of October 27 at Saitama Arena (Final Tracklisting tbc) Disc 2. Bonus disc including unseen footageRather have this show than Sheffield. Of course, they're bound to overdub and remove a track or two. |
| Fenderek 23.01.2006 03:23 |
After hearing Teo Torriatte- that one might be removed... or overdubbed... |
| Rompez 23.01.2006 05:43 |
I don't think that Queen Productions have much control of Japanies releases. There will not be any overdubs but some tracks can be removed (look at the Tokyo'85 as reference). But I think that they will release exact the same version as broadcasted (same camera angels same sound mix etc). P.S. Fenderek, what's wrong with Teo Torriatte? :) |
| Jjeroen 23.01.2006 10:55 |
Fenderek wrote: After hearing Teo Torriatte- that one might be removed... or overdubbed...The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed! (And not only Teo Torritatte) |
| PieterMC 23.01.2006 10:56 |
Details from QOL: Super Live in Japan Track Listing Reaching Out Tie Your Mother Down Fat Bottomed Girls Another One Bites The Dust Fire and Water Crazy Little Thing Called Love Say It’s Not True ‘39 Love Of My Life Teo Torriatte Hammer To Fall Feel Like Makin’ Love Let There Be Drums I’m In Love With My Car Guitar Solo Last Horizon These Are The Days Of Our Lives Radio Ga Ga Can’t Get Enough A Kind Of Magic Wishing Well I Want It All Bohemian Rhapsody I Was Born To Love You The Show Must Go On All Right Now We Will Rock You We Are The Champions God Save The Queen + Bonus disc Bonus disc may include: Japanese press conference and the odd interview Possible footage from other Japanese shows |
| Jjeroen 23.01.2006 10:58 |
Yeah, well, we've heard that before, haven't we?! ;-) They're consistent in one thing though: shitty titles! ;-))) |
| PieterMC 23.01.2006 10:59 |
I was watching VH1 Classic and they were showing a repeat of a Queen special that they did before ROTC came out. The presenter talks about it being a 2 disc set with tons of extra footage, including backstage footage. |
| Rompez 23.01.2006 11:15 |
jeroen wrote: The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed! (And not only Teo Torritatte)Really? What parts exactly? |
| Rompez 23.01.2006 11:15 |
double post |
| Jjeroen 23.01.2006 11:17 |
Pfff... too many to mention, realy. This was not exactly one of their best shows. Listen to the audience recording and you'll easily hear that almost every track has been 'treated' in some way. Though I do think that the overdubs were not done in the studio but were taken from other shows. |
| Fenderek 23.01.2006 11:28 |
Yep- I was really shocked when I heard audience recording of the 27th gig. :) Well- not really shocked, but some of it sounded much worse. Teo torriatte- well, this one is another story... What a crap version that really was! |
| [ Wybren™ ] 25.01.2006 08:09 |
Super Live in Japan. It keeps getting worse... On Fire: Live at the Bowl, Return of the Champions and now Super Live in Japan. 'Super Live' sounds like some child made up the title. Next title: Kick Ass In The States?!? Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-( EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-P |
| Rick 25.01.2006 09:02 |
[ Wybren™ ] wrote: Super Live in Japan. It keeps getting worse... On Fire: Live at the Bowl, Return of the Champions and now Super Live in Japan. 'Super Live' sounds like some child made up the title. Next title: Kick Ass In The States?!? Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-( EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-PSuper Live, how is that possible? I mean, you can't be liver then live. |
| Jjeroen 25.01.2006 10:42 |
Page and Plant had unledded, Now we have super live... Can you be diesel live? |
| Rick 26.01.2006 15:26 |
jeroen wrote: Page and Plant had unledded, Now we have super live... Can you be diesel live?I think so. Don't forget Rare Live :-P |
| Togg 27.01.2006 09:16 |
jeroen wrote:I seriously doubt it was / will be overdubbed, they will clean it up in the mix, and take out some of the errors but unless Brian and Roger and Paul have been wholed up in a studio it certainly will not be overdubbed. They may use a little trick or two to put back any drop-out on the vocal but that will be it.Fenderek wrote: After hearing Teo Torriatte- that one might be removed... or overdubbed...The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed! (And not only Teo Torritatte) Anyway you guys that birate this stuff, have you ever stood up and played live, no, well believe me it's a lot harder to get it right even if you have all the equipment and practice that they have, seriously you don't know what you're talking about if you expect a perfect show, they don't happen, Queen are just about the best at live shows in the world yet technical problems and simply an 'off night' can happen to anyone at anytime. I gotta say unless you've got the balls to stand up and do it, you really don't know what it's like. It's a lot harder than you would ever imagine, every tiny thing you do is recorded forever. My band finished a set the other night which we were really happy with, it was recorded at the time and only now have we discovered that someone kicked the snare mic just enough to have the stand touching another drum, so everytime I hit the snare it makes a nasty bong sound instead of the nice crips crack it made at soundcheck. Really until you have done it, it is very hard to understand how frustrating it can be, even on a great night things don't work according to plan every time. You would be a little more forgiving if you knew what went into it. |
| Jjeroen 27.01.2006 10:34 |
Togg wrote:jeroen wrote:I seriously doubt it was / will be overdubbed, they will clean it up in the mix, and take out some of the errors but unless Brian and Roger and Paul have been wholed up in a studio it certainly will not be overdubbed. They may use a little trick or two to put back any drop-out on the vocal but that will be it. =======>Dear, it IS overdubbed! Seriously, use your ears. Compare an audience recording with the tv-show; it realy is very obvious (as with ROTC). Anybody hears the difference between Brian fucking up a solo on the night and all of the sudden playing it flawless in the broadcast. --------------------- Anyway you guys that birate this stuff, have you ever stood up and played live, no, well believe me it's a lot harder to get it right even if you have all the equipment and practice that they have, seriously you don't know what you're talking about if you expect a perfect show, they don't happen, Queen are just about the best at live shows in the world yet technical problems and simply an 'off night' can happen to anyone at anytime. I gotta say unless you've got the balls to stand up and do it, you really don't know what it's like. It's a lot harder than you would ever imagine, every tiny thing you do is recorded forever. =======>I don't know about the others, but I certainly did not birate this. I was not judging overdubbing - I just mentioned it. And as a matter of fact I know VERY well how hard it is. I've been on stage countless times and work as a recording musician. Cheers! .Fenderek wrote: After hearing Teo Torriatte- that one might be removed... or overdubbed...The tv-broadcast was already HEAVILY overdubbed! (And not only Teo Torritatte) |
| Togg 31.01.2006 08:22 |
The TV broadcast was not under Queen's control, how could they overdub it? Besides the mix will be totally different, done by a different crew, so it will sound different, but at the end of the day, Queen did not go into a studio and overdub the recording, all amends will be done via protools and diffenent feeds from other mic sources. But it will NOT be overdubed. |
| Jjeroen 31.01.2006 09:17 |
Yup, you are totally right. |
| Togg 31.01.2006 10:07 |
?? I'm not sure what you didn't disagree with then? |
| Jjeroen 31.01.2006 10:10 |
That was me giving up... |
| Togg 31.01.2006 10:19 |
So you really believe they went into a studio and overdubbed it? Don't give up I am interested in understanding why you think they did that? I am not saying it wasn't touched up, but overdubbed, no, just cleaned up in the mix with help from protools. |
| Jjeroen 31.01.2006 10:27 |
My ears assure me that there are certainly overdubs in there. I explicitly said that I too think they probably did NOT go into the studio to do the overdubbing. Probably the overdubs came from other shows. You simply cannot polish up 'mistakes' in a guitar solo by just cleaning up the mix. You can only make mistakes undone by overdubbing the solo. (Overdubbing is not just going into the studio and re-record; replacing bits with bits from other shows is also called overdubbing. Like FBG on On Fire for instance, which just was taken from another show of the tour) |
| Togg 31.01.2006 10:49 |
Well I take your point however techincally overdubbing would be done by playing it again in the studio and cutting the two together, editing on the otherhand from a pre-existing source is another matter. And as I am sure you are aware, protools and the like are indeed capable of adjusting tempo and pitch, so you can amend solos pretty well. after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing. I still say the TV edit will not have been touched up, Queen had nothing to do with it so who was there to play with it, the TV company will have edited but only for time, they will not have overdubbed anything. |
| deleted user 31.01.2006 12:42 |
Togg wrote: after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing.are you gay? |
| Hankster 01.02.2006 05:07 |
<font color=green>taylorgaga wrote:can't you read?Togg wrote: after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing.are you gay? |
| Hankster 01.02.2006 05:08 |
edit.. |
| Togg 01.02.2006 07:46 |
<font color=green>taylorgaga wrote:I see a future british journalist in the making, very astute!Togg wrote: after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing.are you gay? With the grasp of simple english like that you have a fine career ahead of you! |
| RohemianBapsody 01.02.2006 08:00 |
<font color=blue>Rick<h6>Queenboots</h6> wrote:Maybe it includes scratch and sniff ;)[ Wybren™ ] wrote: Super Live in Japan. It keeps getting worse... On Fire: Live at the Bowl, Return of the Champions and now Super Live in Japan. 'Super Live' sounds like some child made up the title. Next title: Kick Ass In The States?!? Maybe they'll put the European open air concerts as bonus :-P or 'Long Away' from one Yokohama shows. It will never happen:-( EDIT: Of course: Live + Overdubs = Super Live:-PSuper Live, how is that possible? I mean, you can't be liver then live. |
| Roy ® 01.02.2006 13:21 |
Togg wrote: Well I take your point however techincally overdubbing would be done by playing it again in the studio and cutting the two together, editing on the otherhand from a pre-existing source is another matter. And as I am sure you are aware, protools and the like are indeed capable of adjusting tempo and pitch, so you can amend solos pretty well. after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing. I still say the TV edit will not have been touched up, Queen had nothing to do with it so who was there to play with it, the TV company will have edited but only for time, they will not have overdubbed anything.What do you mean Queen with Queen has nothing to do with it. It is recorded by Queen Productions and as you can see in the credits the audio and Production was done by Justin-Shirley Smith and the Pro Tools by Kris Fredrikson. These are the same people who "did" On Fire. There is no doubt this TV edit has overdubs, as Jeroen stated probably with sound from other shows. Last I played the audio bootleg and the DVD at the same time, then you can hear a lot of overdubs or corrections. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 01.02.2006 18:33 |
All I can say is that it sounds AWESOME! =:^O Cheers, Ogre- |
| Walter B. 03.03.2006 07:08 |
link now gives a releasedate of March 31 (until today it was March 29). You will probably have read it elsewhere but one of the features on disc 2 is known: the Budapest documentary. |
| Walter B. 09.03.2006 09:08 |
The artwork for the dvd can be found at: link |
| Togg 09.03.2006 09:20 |
Roy ® wrote:Eer we were talking about the Japan dvd produced by the TV company.Togg wrote: Well I take your point however techincally overdubbing would be done by playing it again in the studio and cutting the two together, editing on the otherhand from a pre-existing source is another matter. And as I am sure you are aware, protools and the like are indeed capable of adjusting tempo and pitch, so you can amend solos pretty well. after all if you couldn't we wouldn't be blessed with so many boy bands that can't sing. I still say the TV edit will not have been touched up, Queen had nothing to do with it so who was there to play with it, the TV company will have edited but only for time, they will not have overdubbed anything.What do you mean Queen with Queen has nothing to do with it. It is recorded by Queen Productions and as you can see in the credits the audio and Production was done by Justin-Shirley Smith and the Pro Tools by Kris Fredrikson. These are the same people who "did" On Fire. There is no doubt this TV edit has overdubs, as Jeroen stated probably with sound from other shows. Last I played the audio bootleg and the DVD at the same time, then you can hear a lot of overdubs or corrections. |
| Togg 09.03.2006 09:22 |
Walter B. wrote: The artwork for the dvd can be found at: linkCool, does anyone know if it will be available in PAL? |
| Jjeroen 09.03.2006 09:27 |
Togg wrote:Don't know. Does it realy matter? As long as it is region-free, all DVD-players like playing NTSC just as much! :-)Walter B. wrote: The artwork for the dvd can be found at: linkCool, does anyone know if it will be available in PAL? Thanks for the link to the artwork btw - looks at least a lot better then ROTC! ;-) |
| Togg 09.03.2006 10:46 |
It's region 2 Japan, but I have no idea if that means it can be played in the UK or not. I know it's possible to hack the player and turn it into multiregion as I believe they all start out multiregion form the factory and are just programmed with the region code at the last min. But whether NTSC region 2 can be played here like normal PAL I have no idea. |