| KEVPAR 16.01.2006 04:29 |
Does anyone know if the sixpence on the headstock of the real red special is just a sixpence? or is it one of the special minted 'Brian May Sixpences' ? also, does anyone know or have any reasonable ideas as to how it is fixed on there? Has the headstock been bored, routed, and the coin then glued and inserted into the recess? Or simply stuck on with maybe epoxy resin? Kev x |
| Togg 16.01.2006 05:49 |
Haven't seen a real close up but I think it is just stuck on from what I have seen. |
| KEVPAR 16.01.2006 11:36 |
Does anyone know of any decent pics of the headstock on the real deal? Kev x |
| Jjeroen 16.01.2006 11:42 |
Hey Kevvie! It's one of those sixpences with Brian's head on it. (Don't know if it is a '93 or a '98 one...) (The side with Brian's head is on top) And yes, the headstock has been incraved a bit with the coin glued inside. Cheers, dear ;-) X Jeroen |
| David Jones 16.01.2006 13:29 |
I would think it was a '93 one. '98 sixpence? Whats that? |
| Jjeroen 16.01.2006 14:05 |
In 1993 they first produced these tour-souvenir sixpences with Brian's head on it. It has the words 'Brian May back to the light' on it. For the 1998 tour a new bash was produced, this time with the year 1998 on it. In 2005 for QPR tour yet another one was pressed. This time with 'Queen + Paul Rodgers 2005' on it. |
| David Jones 16.01.2006 14:27 |
Damn, I dont have a 1998 one! Are they Royal Mint, or the more medal type like the 2004 & 2005 ones? |
| Jjeroen 16.01.2006 15:08 |
I understand they are pretty rare as well ;-) Apart from the text, the 1998 one is exactly the same as the 2005 one. |
| YourValentine 16.01.2006 15:25 |
I have never heard of a 1998 Brian May sixpence. I always thought that Brian put the (Royal Mint) sixpence on his guitar in 1998? There is a picture on Brianmay.com along with the story and to me it looks like a normal sixpence coin but it's pretty worn. link |
| Music Man 16.01.2006 15:29 |
YourValentine wrote: I have never heard of a 1998 Brian May sixpence. I always thought that Brian put the (Royal Mint) sixpence on his guitar in 1998? There is a picture on Brianmay.com along with the story and to me it looks like a normal sixpence coin but it's pretty worn. linkThat looks like it's inside the guitar near the output jack, not the headstock. It also looks like it's covered by a layer of copper or something. Wonder what it's for... |
| Jjeroen 16.01.2006 15:49 |
Yes, that's indeed another story, Barb! ;-) That picture is indeed from the INSIDE of the body of the guitar, near the socket. We meant the one he put on the headstock for decoration. (headstock is the end; where the tune-pins are ;-) |
| YourValentine 16.01.2006 16:45 |
Okay, I thought the picture on brianmay.com is also about this sixpence on the headstock (actually, the story did not make too much sense for me, the English is too technical). That leaves the question about the 1998 Brian May sixpence. Have you ever seen one? I thought there are only the 1993 BTTL merchandise coins and then the 2004 coins from Las Vegas /2005 coins from the tour. |
| -luke_taylor- 28432 16.01.2006 17:19 |
KEVPAR wrote: Does Has the headstock been bored, routed, Kev xyeah probobly if brian may owns it, he can bore me so much just to jump off a building |
| David Jones 16.01.2006 17:21 |
I think there may be some confusion here. Brian put the sixpence on his Old Lady in 1998? Sixpence wise there is only the 1993 BTTL, 2004 WWRY & 2005 QPR editions? I think Brian explained the reason for the real sixpence inside the body on the soapbox a while back. Good trivia question that now, how many sixpences are on the Red Special?! |
| KEVPAR 18.01.2006 04:14 |
2...one on the headstock and one inside unless there are more?! I assume though that the one inside is a real sixpence and not a Brian May special edition, Brian says that he put it in there 'many years ago' Kev x |
| KEVPAR 26.01.2006 09:31 |
link OK it looks to me as though it IS a Brian May sixpence, cant read the date, maybe its unique? DOESNT look to me though that I'ts set INTO the headstock, just looks stuck on to me... any better pictures anyone? Kev x |
| David Jones 26.01.2006 14:19 |
Thats a Back To The Light one... Nice pic. |
| KEVPAR 02.02.2006 05:52 |
Are you sure? how can you tell from that pic? :-/ Kev x |
| Jjeroen 02.02.2006 06:43 |
He's right! ;-) Watch very closely - you can read 'Brian May Back to the light' written round the edge. x J |
| David Jones 02.02.2006 13:46 |
Yep, just about! |
| KEVPAR 06.02.2006 04:28 |
hmmmmmm **raises a suspicious eyebrow** Kev x |
| Jjeroen 06.02.2006 06:32 |
Oops... are you in need of glasses, darling? ;-) |
| KEVPAR 06.02.2006 11:04 |
:O ! |
| Great King Sam 07.02.2006 08:17 |
KEVPAR wrote: link OK it looks to me as though it IS a Brian May sixpence, cant read the date, maybe its unique? DOESNT look to me though that I'ts set INTO the headstock, just looks stuck on to me... any better pictures anyone? Kev xI have a "Guitarist" magazine from a couple of years back (I'll find the date etc) but inside it talks about Brian putting a Six-Pence in the headstock, and I do believe it is 'buried' into the headstock, and not just stuck on. I'll fetch out the interview when I get in from work. |
| KEVPAR 13.02.2006 04:23 |
any luck with the article? hmm it doesnt LOOK inset from the picture :-/ just looks stuck on...now im starting to wonder about the authenticity of the picture :-/ has anyone emailed Brian about it? :/ Kev x |
| Jjeroen 13.02.2006 04:52 |
The headstock has been carved indeed, but only minimal. The coin is glued inside, but most part of it is still higher then headstock-level. |
| KEVPAR 13.02.2006 04:55 |
how do you KNOW this? Kev x |
| Jjeroen 13.02.2006 06:21 |
Reading interviews and such, and looking at pictures. Sorry, don't ask me to scan them - the clearest pics I saw are in books and I don't want to break their spines! :-S (There is an excellent and very clear picture on the last few pages of the 'The Rex Collection' photobook for example! - You must be able to have a look at the book at HMV or Tower :-) |
| KEVPAR 13.02.2006 11:08 |
hehe how about photo-ing the page(s) with a decent digi cam? Kev x |
| Jjeroen 13.02.2006 13:12 |
Here you can see the surface: link Obviously not inisde the headstock totally - but Brian DID mention somewhere that some carving has been done to keep the coin in place. |
| Great King Sam 13.02.2006 13:22 |
KEVPAR wrote: any luck with the article? hmm it doesnt LOOK inset from the picture :-/ just looks stuck on...now im starting to wonder about the authenticity of the picture :-/ has anyone emailed Brian about it? :/ Kev xUnfortunately there's not really much to quote, except "Brian has recently carved space for a six-pence into the headstock: is this sacrilege?". As someone above said, I don't think it's deeply cut into the Red Special, but enough to keep it in place with a bit of wood glue I'd imagine. |
| KEVPAR 14.02.2006 03:56 |
hmmm the thing which bothers me about the idea that its been 'set' into the headstock is that you can see a reflection of the coins depth in the wood of the headstock am i making sense? Kev x |
| Great King Sam 14.02.2006 07:53 |
KEVPAR wrote: hmmm the thing which bothers me about the idea that its been 'set' into the headstock is that you can see a reflection of the coins depth in the wood of the headstock am i making sense? Kev xNo (-: |
| KEVPAR 14.02.2006 09:07 |
well i mean... IF the sixpence is set INTO the headstock then it would sit flush with the wood around it and therefore when viewing it from an angle there would be no depth or serrated leading edge of the sixpence to reflect in the polished / varnished wood of the surrounding headstock AS you CAN see this depth of the coin, it leads me to believe that its stuck ON rather than IN the headstock... i can make it no clearer than that without making a picture and i wouldnt know how to upload it if i had one :-/ Kev x |
| Great King Sam 14.02.2006 09:39 |
I see now... Well, it all depends on how deep the six-pence hole was, doesn't it. It only had to be slight, just enough for the coin to slip inside and have something other than the wood glue to hold it in. Say, the coin will be maybe 2mm deep, and the hole only has to be 1mm deep, but it's still a hole. |
| KEVPAR 14.02.2006 09:46 |
ohhH lol and i went to all the trouble of making and submitting a picture to the misc section on Queenzone for an explanation! lol well to be honest tho, a 1950 - 60's sixpence is very thin and light, its probably only a few mm thick anyway...ill measure in a mo Kev x |
| Great King Sam 14.02.2006 11:40 |
I have one at home, possibly slightly older, which is no thicker than an English five pence piece, which cannot be any thicker than 2mm. Another question regarding Brian's six-pence, the filed edge - is it filed to a "point" or is there just a flat edge? I managed to fiel the upper third of my six-pence down to a point, which is OK, but it doesn't leave much to hold on to and I find I'm very close to the strings. |
| KEVPAR 15.02.2006 05:52 |
no no its just a standard sixpence there are times on the Return Of The Champions DVD where you can see it clearly. also, im now convinced that the sixpence is simply stuck on to the red special headstock |
| Togg 15.02.2006 07:48 |
The sixpence is NOT seated in a carved hole in the headstock, it is simply glued on. |
| KEVPAR 15.02.2006 09:16 |
lol togg ur like the only person who agrees with me...ive been trying to make people see for aaaaaages :( Kev x |
| Togg 15.02.2006 09:50 |
I've seen it up close, plus if you look at the shot in this link, if it had been sunk into the headstock there would have to be a slight cut around the sixpence. i.e. the hole would have to be bigger than the sixpence to fit in and therefore the hole would be able to be seen. IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE. |
| KEVPAR 15.02.2006 10:54 |
indeed! um...when have you seen the red special up close? :D Kev x |
| KEVPAR 15.02.2006 10:56 |
link 'ave it Kev x |
| Great King Sam 15.02.2006 12:45 |
Nice picture, but, from a different point of view, as I have said, the carving doesn't have to be very deep, and, I would imagine there would be more than glue holding it on. Also, if there is a carving, any form of glue would likely have the coin raised anyway due to it's thickness. But, then again, I'm only going by the magazine with a Brian May article in it! (-: |
| KEVPAR 15.02.2006 15:03 |
what article?! Kev x |
| Great King Sam 15.02.2006 15:18 |
...from the Guitarist magazine I quoted earlier in the thread (page two I think) |
| Jjeroen 16.02.2006 04:56 |
I give up. |
| KEVPAR 16.02.2006 06:44 |
Give up on what? Kev x |
| freddy4ever 21.06.2015 11:14 |
I tried playing with a sixpence but couldn't get on with it very well,not sure how Brian does it! I've now since bought one from link and am getting on great with it,definitely gives you the tone. |
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