| YourValentine 09.01.2006 06:45 |
Bits of this demo have been posted here by a person called Raptor711. I am sure he did not mean to cause bad feelings but he does by posting snippets of an interesting demo and offer the complete track for trade. Of course, he won't get much for it because he already announced that he would publish it as soon as his trades are complete. Therefore I am sure I don't interfere with an interesting trade by uploading the demo. According to wilki this is Brian's original backing track (drum machine, bass guitar and guide vocals by himself) plus a vocal take by Freddie (added by Greg Brooks). link Enjoy:) |
| Serry... 09.01.2006 06:50 |
Good times came back on Announce forum :) Thanks for sharing, Barbara! |
| rmtaylor 09.01.2006 07:00 |
thanks man, you're great!! |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 07:07 |
Thanks, man :) could you perhaps donate a minute of your time and help the Italian guy with rapidshare in this thread? link |
| Ginger01 09.01.2006 07:16 |
Thanks so much for sharing this! |
| @ndy38 09.01.2006 07:25 |
Thank you! |
| Rick 09.01.2006 07:27 |
Thanks! :-) |
| TRS-Romania 09.01.2006 07:47 |
thank you !!! |
| Rotwang 09.01.2006 07:53 |
I hate to sound like I don't appreciate the effort of uploading this demo which I would most certainly like to have but is there any way of uploading it to Save File? My place of business has firewalled Rapidshare. I would certainly appreciate it and thanks for posting even if I can't get it. |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 08:18 |
What is Save Files? |
| TRS-Romania 09.01.2006 08:29 |
Save file is the same kind of thing as Rapidshare ...I gues ... I couldnt find it on Google, so I have no clue about the website adress of "Save File" Stefan |
| maybri 09.01.2006 08:31 |
Vielen Dank Barbara! Neuigkeiten was das Köln Konzert 2005 betrifft? Viele Grüße, maybri ;o) |
| Serry... 09.01.2006 08:51 |
link |
| Funny Slide 09.01.2006 09:02 |
Thanks a lot!!! |
| innuendo1981 09.01.2006 09:02 |
Thank You very much for this |
| Fenderek 09.01.2006 09:08 |
Thank You! |
| icmrocha (The Man From Planet Marzipan) 09.01.2006 09:29 |
Wow!!! Many thanks for this, YV! It's so nice to hear this song with this lousy programmed drum beat! =) Thank you!! |
| deleted user 09.01.2006 09:35 |
Thanx :) |
| Ale_Pisa 09.01.2006 09:35 |
Thanks! |
| Fat Lizzy 09.01.2006 09:36 |
ROFL at the sucky drumbeat, but very, very interesting. Thanks a lot! |
| Bobby_brown 09.01.2006 09:36 |
Thanks for this demo. Take care |
| AC 09.01.2006 09:39 |
Thank you. |
| Jay Mantis 09.01.2006 09:40 |
Thanks for posting this Barbara! Very appreciated! :-) |
| [ Wybren™ ] 09.01.2006 09:44 |
Nice demo:) Thanx for sharing YV! |
| Raptor711 09.01.2006 09:53 |
Well you broke my hope to get somethig else back , ¡¡ now ill trade your the only one and hitman whit brian on vocals!! What will you do about it Robbin YourValentine Hood? Upload those 2? ;) |
| inmsthebest 09.01.2006 09:56 |
Thank you very much, Barbara;) |
| Erin 09.01.2006 10:06 |
Thanks, Barb! :-) |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 10:15 |
"What will you do about it Robbin YourValentine Hood? Upload those 2? ;)" I do nothing. I could not care less about what you trade. But I doubt that anyone trades with you when you post parts of your trading items on a public message board and announce that you upload the track when the trade is finished. This Headlong demo was not really rare and I do have permission from the collector who gave it to me to upload it here for free. Next time just do not tease the community with snippets of tracks you do not want to share. I won't come in your way, then. |
| Bobby_brown 09.01.2006 10:20 |
Afetr listening to it, all i have to say is: THIS IS ANOTHER FAKE DEMO. 1- Freddies vocals were taken from Innuendo (are the final vocals); 2- It's impossible at this stage that a Brian song has the guitar missing. I mean, John recorded the bass , and Brian didn't record the guitar lines? The drum sound is from a machine, not Roger playing that. 3- Before you acuse me and say that only Queen knows if this is a demo or not listen carefully after the 2 minutes mark (" when a red hot man meets a wite hot lady..."). This is supose to be a Brian song, so Brian should do the leading for Freddie to follow. In this case you have Freddie singuing the final version from Innuendo and Brian doing some noises because at this stage he didn't have finished the lyrics to the song. Someone mixed the demo version with the final version (the same thing as Freddie and Michael Jackson). You can believe it's true, but this is a FAKE one!!!! Take care |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 10:50 |
Oh dear - I edited my initial post to warn people about the possible fake. |
| Wilki Amieva 09.01.2006 11:18 |
This is NOT a fake. This is indeeds Brian's original backing track (drum machine, bass guitar and guide vocals by himself) plus a vocal take by Freddie (added by Greg Brooks). |
| such_a_jollification 09.01.2006 11:21 |
Well genuine or not thanks for sharing! :o) |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 11:27 |
Thanks, Pablo, I'll edit my post again:) |
| Rotwang 09.01.2006 11:38 |
Thanks a million Alex. I really appreciate it. |
| Maz 09.01.2006 11:39 |
Thanks for this |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 11:54 |
Check the Frequently Asked Questions in the QZ library - section BitTorrent. I am sure you can figure it out. |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 12:02 |
You can convert the .flac file to .wav with FlacFrontend very easily and burn an audio CD. That's the whole idea of the lossless format that you get audio CD quality. The flac is only for easier transfer because it is smaller. |
| Fenderek 09.01.2006 12:03 |
*edit, whatever* |
| KingMercury 09.01.2006 12:06 |
i dont think it's the real demo i think it's fake... |
| KingMercury 09.01.2006 12:13 |
i mean...it's not the original demo i agree that the background bri's vocals could be the original, but, i dont think it's the original demo theres no guitar...the drums are crap, and that freddie's vocals are from the final headlong version my opinion is...this is the original brians vocals plus things added (drums, bass and freddie's vocals) to make this more attractive |
| Bobby_brown 09.01.2006 12:18 |
Wilki wrote: This is NOT a fake. This is indeeds Brian's original backing track (drum machine, bass guitar and guide vocals by himself) plus a vocal take by Freddie (added by Greg Brooks).Am i missing something here!?? If this was mixedd by Greg Brooks then it's still a fake. You can call the backing track with Brian the real Demo, but this is a fanmix, and it's not because it was Greg doing the mix that it's more legitimate than the "There must be more to live than this" fanmix. I'm not complaining though, i just like to label things the right way. 1- Backing track with Brian on Vocals- Demo 2- This version- Fan mix. If it was Greg who passed this out, then he gave you nothing with no value whatsoever, even for traders (the smart ones), unless you can seperate the Freddie's vocals from the track. Explain where are the basic guitar lines? You say Brian recorded the bass and the drum machine!?- But this is a guitar track. No way the demo tape sounds like that (even the bass sounds like the Deacy playing). As i said before, it's a well donne mix, but you don't have nothing here. And if this vocals were taken from the INNUENDO tapes, then this is official stuff. I'm sorry to be a pain in the ass, but this is so obvious, i just don't understand why people like to believe in things that they know are not true! But, thanks for sharing this anyway! Take care |
| jcrawford79 09.01.2006 12:21 |
Thanks for this upload. |
| RadekQ 09.01.2006 12:32 |
Thanks for this! Nice "Demo" anyway - and have a "collectable" value for me :-) |
| YourValentine 09.01.2006 12:40 |
Bobby_Brown, your comments are very welcome. From experience I know that wilki has real expert knowledge about such tracks and maybe he will tell us more about how this track came about. |
| Serry... 09.01.2006 12:46 |
"And if this vocals were taken from the INNUENDO tapes, then this is official stuff." How about unreleased video promos and fan mixes then? Actually, I think it's sounds more like one of those a-capella versions from Freddie's box set with added Brian/John guide track. It has nothing to do with guitar, IMHO, Self Made Man is another Brian's demo track with lack of guitar! Maybe it's not a proper demo or what we mean by "demo", but "fake" is wrong word to describe this track. |
| vivequeen 09.01.2006 12:53 |
"MERCI BEAUCOUP" |
| Bobby_brown 09.01.2006 13:01 |
Serry... wrote: "And if this vocals were taken from the INNUENDO tapes, then this is official stuff." How about unreleased video promos and fan mixes then? Actually, I think it's sounds more like one of those a-capella versions from Freddie's box set with added Brian/John guide track. It has nothing to do with guitar, IMHO, Self Made Man is another Brian's demo track with lack of guitar! Maybe it's not a proper demo or what we mean by "demo", but "fake" is wrong word to describe this track.When i use the word fake i use it acording to Queenzone words used in the past to define something. There was a tread about "There must be more to life than this" were the oposite of real demo was fake demo. Fake is wrong to describe this track because it's a "Real" fan mix. About the Freddie's line vocals i'm 99% shure that are the same as INNUENDO version, and since someone in the past was advised not to post "Play the Game" Cappella version because it was from the original mix, i just follow that (but in this case i was being a "pain in the ass" for Queenzoners. It's not a bad track, but to guive any value for this thing... For me it´s simple the reason it exists. The person who´ve donne this version has now 2 rare demotapes of Headlong to trade: Brian Version and Freddie + Brian version, when to be honest there is only one real demo (betwween this two). And when the boxes are out we will find out many "fake" recordings circulating among traders.To me this is a pitty! Take care |
| bitesthedust 09.01.2006 13:06 |
ta... |
| lunatik 09.01.2006 13:29 |
Thanks for posting. |
| Serry... 09.01.2006 13:40 |
"When i use the word fake i use it acording to Queenzone words used in the past to define something. There was a tread about "There must be more to life than this" were the oposite of real demo was fake demo. Fake is wrong to describe this track because it's a "Real" fan mix." Remix of "I Cry For You" made by you - is a fan mix, fake, whatever you call it. Remix of "I Cry For You" made by John Deacon - is genuine remix and official version of the song. If this Headlong demo was remixed during Innuendo sessions by someone from Queen or by David Richards - it can't be fake. |
| David Jones 09.01.2006 13:44 |
Thanks very much! Great file. I can't believe people are being so ungrateful. If the box sets did came out and it had the Innuendo demos on it, it would probably have this matrix demo rather than little rough snippets. Its more listenable. And maybe its Brian playing bass, not John?! |
| Bobby_brown 09.01.2006 13:51 |
Serry... wrote: "When i use the word fake i use it acording to Queenzone words used in the past to define something. There was a tread about "There must be more to life than this" were the oposite of real demo was fake demo. Fake is wrong to describe this track because it's a "Real" fan mix." Remix of "I Cry For You" made by you - is a fan mix, fake, whatever you call it. Remix of "I Cry For You" made by John Deacon - is genuine remix and official version of the song. If this Headlong demo was remixed during Innuendo sessions by someone from Queen or by David Richards - it can't be fake.Yes, you're totally right about that! I don't know the origins of this song, but in page 2 of this thread WILKI said that the Freddie vocals were added by Greg Brooks (The archivist). I said what i said admiting that this was true. But really, who would do such a miserable work? If this was made by a pro then i don't know what to say, because loosing time to mix a final version of Freddies vocals with some vocal noises by brian i just don't see the point of it. But if that's the case then i'm sorry! By the way, who mixed this thing? Take care |
| Bobby_brown 09.01.2006 13:53 |
David Jones wrote: Thanks very much! Great file. I can't believe people are being so ungrateful. If the box sets did came out and it had the Innuendo demos on it, it would probably have this matrix demo rather than little rough snippets. Its more listenable. And maybe its Brian playing bass, not John?!Yes, and i'm playing the drums!! I'm not being ungracefull, and i never said that this wasn't more enjoyable than the real demo. I´M just trying to put things straight, there's need to be upset about it! Take care |
| Jay Mantis 09.01.2006 13:56 |
I'm really not sure if this is genuine or fake but I know that it's quite strange why Brian would sing some basic unfinished lyrcis at the same time as Freddie would sing the finished lyrics (whitch indeed are the same as the final vocals on Innuendo). It just doesn't make sense, at least that's my view on it. |
| The Real Wizard 09.01.2006 14:26 |
It's a drum machine, Brian on bass, and Brian singing some rough vocals... clearly Freddie was added later. I agree with that. But who says guitar has to be recorded first? Anyone who has recorded rock music with serious intent should be familiar with the idea of a "ghost track". You lay down some rough tracks so you can have something to listen to while recording your vocals. |
| Johan 09.01.2006 15:00 |
Fake or not, thanks to the people who make this possible! Great One!:D |
| Wilki Amieva 09.01.2006 15:37 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: It's a drum machine, Brian on bass, and Brian singing some rough vocals... clearly Freddie was added later. I agree with that. But who says guitar has to be recorded first? Anyone who has recorded rock music with serious intent should be familiar with the idea of a "ghost track". You lay down some rough tracks so you can have something to listen to while recording your vocals.Yes, that it is basically the idea: a backing track to build the guitar arrangements. Nice to see that this demo has the backing for the part present only in the video version - this clearly declares every other version as an edit. |
| RadekQ 09.01.2006 16:55 |
I haven't noticed that one part is present only in the video version... Could you write here when exactly find this part? I have GVH2 (DVD and VHS) and also the Innuendo album (CD and Vinyl) and can not find that part...? |
| A Word In Your Ear 09.01.2006 17:06 |
Thanks Barbara, You're a credit to Queenzone :-) |
| TRS-Romania 09.01.2006 17:14 |
ok I am very very grateful to have heard this track... But listen with your headphones.... you still can hear the backing guitar track (very very low), so whoever created this (greg brooks or someone else) really mixed out some of the channels... But who cares??? Whatever we have recieved from Barbara is just plain awesome! Lets all just be very very grateful! Stefan |
| PabloArg 09.01.2006 19:01 |
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| Wilki Amieva 09.01.2006 19:02 |
What you are hearing is the headphone leakage into Freddie's vocal takes. |
| KingMercury 09.01.2006 19:09 |
definitely it's fake it's a fan/greg brooks/someone mix someone has taken the early brian vocals, and added the freddie vocals and bass lines plus drums (and yes, it's a drum machine) when i readed "headlong demo version" i thought on two possibilitys: a queen demo, with freddie on vocals (not the final vocals), and i thought on a brian demo (because headlong was written by brian for his solo project) but i didnt think on this stuff anyway, all the shared stuff is welcome despite this is a fake demo, it's interesting to hear it; its funny thanks!!!!!!!!! |
| A Word In Your Ear 09.01.2006 19:23 |
Could Someone please Explain to me what real or fake is? Now don't get me wrong, I DO!! really know what the difference is, but is something only real, when It's been on an official QUEEN release? If that is the case, are all the "Hollywood Records" remixes & "You Don't Fool Me" remixes Real? They have clearly been remixed by somebody else & Queen are not even playing the musical Instruments. We Could debate Untill we are blue in the face about the "Headlong" Demo. It's obvious that Freddie's vocals have been added later, but Who Cares!!!! Greg Brooks could put this version on the box set, then it becomes real, doesn't it? We Must All be grateful for YourValentine for uploading it, after Raptor711 teased us with the snippet. Please let's not gripe on about "if it's real or not", Barbara didn't have to upload it. Something "Real or Not" is better than nothing at all. Thanks again, Barbara :-) |
| rmtaylor 09.01.2006 19:42 |
well .. I don't think it's a "real" fake .. because there are some bits that are nowhere, in the final Headlong version, the one on the Innuendo album. First of all, there's a continuous hand-clapping on the left channel, then we got brian's voice on the right channel. He doesn't do a chorus, but creates some new vocal lines, jamming with the song (listen carefully from 2:00, on the right channel). And I can hear Brian's voice in the left ch. at 1:17, as well. Then the drum-machine, .. there's no drum in the normal version. I think there's also a cut at the end, on the bass solo; the bass itself makes some strange noises, during the song, like a not well-plugged jack. Finally, Freddie's voice is definitely the original vocal track of the song, even if there are some bits that I can't hear on the final version (2:40, the double "so strong" chorus). But .. could this demo be a Brian's mix? I mean .. Could've Brian made it for himself, to use as a karaoke-track just to play guitar on? He did the same we he went on a radio-tour, promoting the Innuendo album, in 1991, using the normal versions on the songs (he played guitar even on Under Pressure). |
| Suigi 09.01.2006 20:08 |
WOW. This is gonna be forwarded to wyldstallyn for the Queen Lives compilation. Kudos! |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 09.01.2006 20:52 |
Thank you so much, YV and Wilki! Sounds awesome! Such a gem shared so generously! As for all the argument I would laugh but I got bored somewhere in between. ;) Cheers, Ogre- |
| teleport8 10.01.2006 03:38 |
Not that I care too much, but has anyone tried to compare this with the official version with a stopwatch? Perhaps the original demo was indeed used as ghost track, so that the demo and the vocals are automatically in synch. If so, I think it's still quite interesting to see how they recorded things. |
| YourValentine 10.01.2006 04:17 |
I have a question about this mix to those who know about these things: Why does the Queen archivist mix demos or guide tracks with vocal tracks? Sorry if this sounds stupid but I really have no real idea what his job includes. I always thought archiving means listing and labelling the demos/outtakes and not: creating mixes from the material. |
| onedunpark 10.01.2006 04:24 |
Thanks for the upload Barbara. I'm sure we'd all love to hear the original backing track without the overlaid vocals (those of us that don't have it already, that is), but this is very much appreciated just the same. |
| Bohardy 10.01.2006 07:22 |
Thanks a lot for this Barb. I can't believe the fuss some people are making about this, when the situation is so simple. It's clearly a mix (apparently made by Greg) that contains real demo elements and real elements from the final mix. Why the debate about it being fake? Oh and Barb, it strikes me as very odd that Greg would be making a mix such as this, because, whichever way you look at it, the job-title of archivist would not include in its remit remixing what is in the archives. |
| PieterMC 10.01.2006 08:00 |
Bohardy wrote: It's clearly a mix (apparently made by Greg) that contains real demo elements and real elements from the final mix. Why the debate about it being fake?Probably in a similar fashion to the Living on my Own hybrid that is on the Freddie box set where they joined multiple takes to create a different version of the track. I don't believe this is a "fake". |
| Wilki Amieva 10.01.2006 09:09 |
PieterMC wrote: Probably in a similar fashion to the Living on my Own hybrid that is on the Freddie box set where they joined multiple takes to create a different version of the track. I don't believe this is a "fake".Thanks. Technically speaking, it's not a mix in THAT sense - I mean, joining/crossmixing two tracks together. But I know what you mean. Well, I might be popping a ballon here (this is a translation of a Spanish saying), but some things in the Freddie box were mixed in a way they had never meant to be. That does not make them 'fake'. The remixing was made to illustrate certain points or to make the stuff more listenable. The same happens here. My guess is that Freddie's vocals were added by Greg or at his request to add appeal to it. I mean, Brian vocals are weak and are fastly replaced by his typical mumble and then by nothing - so a strong vocal which of course sounds stunning on his own makes the whole thing more complete and listenable. |
| Wilki Amieva 10.01.2006 09:10 |
Besides, I want to make clear that I have no confirmation that this was mixed by Greg or at his request, so I guess that there is still a slightly chance that he just found it. Anyway, what I do know for sure is that Brian demoed Headlong by himself. I also know that the original backing track for that demo consisted of drum machine, bass and guide vocals - yes, everything by Brian. So I strongly believe what we have here is (probably an excerpt of) Brian's own backing track synchronised with Freddie's vocals (with headphone leakage) taken from the multitrack masters. A backing track for a demo is still a demo. And a demo with some later element added is still a demo. No 'fake' stuff here. |
| **Queen_of_Ramms+ein** 10.01.2006 09:32 |
thank you |
| john bodega 10.01.2006 09:56 |
Nice! Face it Alone, here we come... |
| John S Stuart 10.01.2006 10:00 |
First: Thanks to YV who kindly uploaded the demo, and I also applaud her reasons for doing so. Second: IMO it seems this demo is made up from two separate tracks - a left and a right channel. Therefore, would it be possible to divide these into two (centralised) mono demos? (If I was to do this, I would end up with the track coming from only one speaker and not both!). If so, (and my guess is correct) the 'Official' Freddie Innuendo version could be discarded, while the 'Brian Backing Track' could be exposed in its full glory. This does NOT mean that the latter would be any better or 'more genuine', but it may well be closer to Brian's home demo guide track. So, being blunt - is this possible, and would some kind re-mixer be able to do this? |
| PieterMC 10.01.2006 10:22 |
I don't think its possible with this John. Both the left and right channels have both the Freddie version and Brian version. |
| Adam Baboolal 10.01.2006 11:18 |
PieterMC wrote: I don't think its possible with this John. Both the left and right channels have both the Freddie version and Brian version.Tada! - link It's nothing great, but at least you can hear Brian without Freddie getting in the way. Peace, Adam. |
| Fenderek 10.01.2006 12:16 |
Thanx Adam! :) |
| Serry... 10.01.2006 12:50 |
Thanks Adam, thank Barbara, thanks Wilki, thanks Serry! |
| PieterMC 10.01.2006 13:16 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:Cool!!PieterMC wrote: I don't think its possible with this John. Both the left and right channels have both the Freddie version and Brian version.Tada! - link It's nothing great, but at least you can hear Brian without Freddie getting in the way. Peace, Adam. |
| John S Stuart 10.01.2006 13:34 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:Well done Adam.PieterMC wrote: I don't think its possible with this John. Both the left and right channels have both the Freddie version and Brian version.Tada! - link It's nothing great, but at least you can hear Brian without Freddie getting in the way. Peace, Adam. How did you keep it in stereo? |
| Adam Baboolal 10.01.2006 13:40 |
It's just an Adobe Audition trick called center channel extractor. I did something similar to expose Freddie's vocal more. Many thanks to YV for this one. It's most interesting to hear. Peace, Adam. |
| Bobby_brown 10.01.2006 13:49 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:Thanks for this Adam.PieterMC wrote: I don't think its possible with this John. Both the left and right channels have both the Freddie version and Brian version.Tada! - link It's nothing great, but at least you can hear Brian without Freddie getting in the way. Peace, Adam. This must have been the first take by Brian. I just don´t understand why people got so upset about the fact of me using the word "fake". If you guys explain me i would like to know what is something "half fake" or "not tottally fake". It's ridiculous, because i wasn't beeing offensive to the person who uploaded this track, or to anybody really. Since this is a Queen fan site and many collectors write in here, as you know one of the things that collectors guive tremenduous attention is to label the tracks correctly. That's what Greg Brooks is suposing to do with the Queen cathalogue! If the track as it is will be included in the Boxset, it has to be labeled correctly. So Greg could never say this was the Demo because it wasn't. He could say he added a Freddie's track to the Demo. This is the correct way of doing things! Of course this demo is not enjoyable to listening to, but that's the way it was redcorded and i'm totally certain that if a real collector were to guive money for one of this tracks he would by the Brians version, even though it's weaker, because it was the original one! Take care |
| YourValentine 10.01.2006 14:00 |
I agree, Bobby_Brown and I was not offended at all. I just did not want to mislead anybody, therefore I kept editing my initial post. Personally, I want to hear the real thing and not some remix to make it sound better. Maybe that is unrealistic but since the box set has not yet been releaseed, it's funny that mixes already circulate. I wish we would discuss more uploaded material so extensively. Thanks Adam, that is a nice job :) |
| Lantald 10.01.2006 15:49 |
Thanx for sharing! |
| Wilki Amieva 10.01.2006 17:50 |
I am not upset at all. I just wanted to explain things for information's sake. If you do not like the track, that it is fine, but it is not fake. In fact, I would have preferred the original demo myself. In a similar fashion, I would have preferred any demo to the a capella version of Let's Turn It On or the piano and vocal version of I Was Born To Love You, but I do not think they are a waste of space in Freddie's box CDs. That versions were made with to illustrate something about those songs. This is the same. |
| luisfelipeberchielli 10.01.2006 18:02 |
Just Amazing !! I love it ! |
| A Word In Your Ear 10.01.2006 18:28 |
Thanks Adam, for extracting the Freddie vocal. Thanks Barbara, for uploading the remix Demo. Now we all Have Two versions!!!!! |
| darcy 10.01.2006 20:08 |
thanks for this. Is it entirely possible that Greg Brooks purpously did this to make the track "not rare" as the original naked demo would be, and what could take away in value from a possible box set inclusion? |
| Adam Baboolal 10.01.2006 20:32 |
Alex Solan wrote:Actually, the function is called Center Channel Extractor and plays with the phase relationships of a track. It's more than just the karaoke trick which other editors achieve through the common phase invertion of one side technique. That's why it's perfectly possible to expose Freddie's vocals from the track. Not perfectly, but pretty well.John S Stuart wrote:That was 'vocals isolation' or 'remove vocals function', can be done with SoundForge, Goldwave or any other good audio editor. You remove the lead vocals from all the channels, and if some background vocals are present on the track, like in this case Brian, they are kept. Unfortunately, you loose some of the quality of the track, but in this case it doesn't matter since it was only for figurative purposes.Adam Baboolal wrote:Well done Adam. How did you keep it in stereo?PieterMC wrote: I don't think its possible with this John. Both the left and right channels have both the Freddie version and Brian version.Tada! - link It's nothing great, but at least you can hear Brian without Freddie getting in the way. Peace, Adam. link Peace, Adam. |
| onedunpark 11.01.2006 06:14 |
Thanks for your efforts Adam, much appreciated. |
| Wilki Amieva 11.01.2006 10:55 |
darcy wrote: thanks for this. Is it entirely possible that Greg Brooks purpously did this to make the track "not rare" as the original naked demo would be, and what could take away in value from a possible box set inclusion?Not at all. 1) The track is not less rare because of that. On the other hand, it is indeed less rare, but just because it leaked. 2) Now QP knows better: Remember the "Property of QUEEN Productions" mantra mixed to the tracks (yes, it is in the original CDs) played at later conventions. 3) The mix was made to illustrate certain points. As I have said before, the Freddie box has also this kind of stuff. Let's not demonize Greg. |
| FriedChicken 11.01.2006 11:20 |
If this demo is fake then most of the stuff on the FM boxset is fake too. Since most songs on there were also 'made' by selecting a take, or even compiling takes (hybrid versions). Ofcourse this isn't fake. It's one of the earliest takes with Brian's guide vocal, and Freddie's master lead vocal. |
| Rick 11.01.2006 11:34 |
And Niek knows it. ;-) |
| jeffuk49 11.01.2006 17:07 |
Hey guys how od you play flac files pleaseeeee |
| Mercuryworks 11.01.2006 20:33 |
Thanks |