| YourValentine 02.01.2006 06:56 |
I wish the notice board - mainly the personal board - would not be the playground for bullies, rude people and babies of all ages anymore. I wish attention seekers would not use marquees, huge fonts and shrieking colours to make up for the lack of intelligence. I wish people would abstain from posting threads that have no other content than "nana" "poopoo" etc. People like these should not have internet. I wish people would not start topics bullying other members of the board with the rudest possible insults. I wish more users of this board would appreciate that it does exist and allows for discussion with no censorship. I wish that regular users of the board would start to defend the board against the brainless idiots instead of leaving. It's us who define the tone and the atmosphere of the board. To put it bluntly: If you shit on your playground to annoy other people you will make it unusable for yourself! |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 02.01.2006 07:03 |
I couldnt have said it any better myself. Happy New Year to you. Sean :o) |
| bitesthedust 02.01.2006 07:20 |
I agree... people should be tolerant of other people's opinions and respect them regardless of whether they agree or not. |
| deleted user 02.01.2006 09:05 |
its not the case of people not agreein or whatever, its the fact people are posting such crap on this board that its makin the place seem like its run by 2 yr olds, which we dont want, and the fact you have some ADULTS acting like 2yr olds most of the time doesnt exactly set a good example to others either. if people would learn to grow up and ACT THERE AGE, the place might be more enjoyable, and people wont get so frustrated and leave. |
| TRS-Romania 02.01.2006 09:15 |
YourValentine wrote: I wish the notice board - mainly the personal board - would not be the playground for bullies, rude people and babies of all ages anymore. I wish attention seekers would not use marquees, huge fonts and shrieking colours to make up for the lack of intelligence. I wish people would abstain from posting threads that have no other content than "nana" "poopoo" etc. People like these should not have internet. I wish people would not start topics bullying other members of the board with the rudest possible insults. I wish more users of this board would appreciate that it does exist and allows for discussion with no censorship. I wish that regular users of the board would start to defend the board against the brainless idiots instead of leaving. It's us who define the tone and the atmosphere of the board. To put it bluntly: If you shit on your playground to annoy other people you will make it unusable for yourself!Well in my humble opinion I think it's still a "public" forum meaning that everybody can post silly,stupid,nice,akward,interesting topics ... It's like TV : if we don't like it we switch the channel, if we don't like a post: we don't respond ... So I am not to judge people's input on this forum how stupid it might be. If you don't like somebody's input, you can ignore it... Just my humble opinion ... |
| YourValentine 02.01.2006 09:28 |
Right, Stefan - but if Queenzone becomes the QVC of the notice boards people switch it off and leave it to the brainless idiots. I do not want this to happen. It's my right as a user to voice my opinion and I am appealing that people cherish the board more and abuse it less. I do not think this is asked too much. |
| TRS-Romania 02.01.2006 09:36 |
ok I understand... but your initial post was in my opinion a bit harsh ... Stefan |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 09:39 |
Attention seeking is putting a thread about someone else like Linda of the Vally=Uncivil Poster FreddiesGhettoTrench A degree of Retardation |
| goodco 02.01.2006 10:44 |
A small amount of moderating on occasion would be appreciated, where common sense applies. So many great posters have dropped off in the past year. It's the most informative Queen NG I've come across, and yet.....well, no need to go on with the some of the obvious. Also....that many would discover google.com. It's incredible what the web has to offer. |
| TRS-Romania 02.01.2006 12:21 |
a small amount of moderation? It sounds like George W Bush's Patriot Act ... Let people speak and let Richard (or any moderator on this site) decide for themselfes if they want to delete posts... This site might be "public" but it's still owned by Richard (if I am correct). If he wishes to moderate all messages, that is fine with me, if he wishes to moderate a few , thats fine with me ... He owns the domain, the site, and only he is allowed to make moderations according to his liking. But if Richard feels it should be an open forum, than let it be ... nothing else is more important than his view because in fact he created, maintains and owns this site ... Its like sending an open letter to a newspaper, the editor will in fact choose if he wants to publish your "post" ...since Richards allows anyone to post who is registered and there are no rules set when signing up for this site we should just not judge the dumb and ignorant on this site, we can easily ignore them ...and as I said, Richard makes or breaks the rules on HIS site! Stefan |
| Fairy 02.01.2006 12:53 |
Amen, Barbara. What I can't stand the most is when people get rude on this board. I don't really agree with those who say that well, it is just the internet. The internet is a way of being together. The only big difference is that we can hide behind a screen. This doesn't give us the right to offend and insult those who have different opinions or those we don't like for any reason. Fairy |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 13:56 |
_Sasha_ wrote:She said to make up for lack of attention.<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: Attention seeking is putting a thread about someone else like Linda of the Vally=Uncivil Poster FreddiesGhettoTrench A degree of RetardationYou did notice the marquee part right? Not a problem for me |
| Janet 02.01.2006 15:27 |
YourValentine pretty much said it all. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 16:02 |
<font color =#CC00FF>***Marial-B*** wrote: If we talk about attention seeking... not only a marquee would do that... there are attitudes in people here who are just as simple as a seeking for attention.I get my attention through quality of what I post. This MArquee helps me find where I post. |
| LiveAidQueen 02.01.2006 16:05 |
The n00b's here are getting worse everyday. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 16:05 |
<font color=Red>LiveAidQueen wrote: The n00b's here are getting worse everyday.You were new once too. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 16:13 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:You mean on this thread or when I ask why everyone takes it all the sudden?<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:Everyone was. I still consider myself a n00b here. I don't think newbie bashing is acceptable but some people are just too cocky here...after they've joined for like a month. *rolls eyes* Ps wasn't talking about you hun :P But your post on marquee was too cocky..you'd think you invented the bloody tag...:P<font color=Red>LiveAidQueen wrote: The n00b's here are getting worse everyday.You were new once too. |
| Saint Jiub 02.01.2006 16:19 |
Nice post YV, I'm sure it will help some, but I doubt most will change their behavior. I suppose I could do more to stand up to the offenders, but I now skip most QZ topics (often based on topic "author" or topic title). Has there been any thought to reinstituting the Fanasy Forum? LOL |
| TRS-Romania 02.01.2006 16:24 |
Fairy wrote: Amen, Barbara. What I can't stand the most is when people get rude on this board. I don't really agree with those who say that well, it is just the internet. The internet is a way of being together. The only big difference is that we can hide behind a screen. This doesn't give us the right to offend and insult those who have different opinions or those we don't like for any reason. FairyWho am I to judge that a marquee means "attention seeking" ... sorry, why are we trying to attack others for that? And secondly everbody tends to look over the fact that this site is owned by Richard! So we can ask politely for nice posts on the forum, but if it doesnt happen we should not complain, but ignore. It's Richard in the end who makes up the rules, and since there are none, who are we to critize other people or WHO are we to say which posts are dumn,stupid,ignorant or irritating ... YV post: " I wish the notice board - mainly the personal board - would not be the playground for bullies, rude people and babies of all ages anymore. " "I wish attention seekers would not use marquees, huge fonts and shrieking colours to make up for the lack of intelligence." sorry barbara, are you the one who decides how one should be behaving? I know you are a respected Queenzoner but this attitude of almost "telling" (in your words: "wishing") people , is that right? "I wish people would abstain from posting threads that have no other content than "nana" "poopoo" etc. People like these should not have internet." Again barbara, who are you to say that people who post messages with "nana" and "poopoo" should not have internet? If Richard doesnt like the post he will remove them, since he doesnt, respect the freedom of speech , how dumb you might find the posts! "I wish people would not start topics bullying other members of the board with the rudest possible insults." What are you doing Barbara? Are you setting the rules and regulations? Ofcourse we like people to be nice, thats why you are using "I wish" , but in fact you might be saying "I want" ...? again, what is rude,who defines rude? Everybody seems to agree with Barbara, since she is well respected here , but in my opinion it doesnt help to improve the atmosphere by putting it so "bluntly" as Barbara said... Since it's an open forum a request for nice polite and normal posts will never be reality in the end,therefore it's YV wish (no problem with that) but the "I wish" thing is put rather harsh ... ...So instead of requesting it, why just dont ignore it since Richard has made no set of rules regarding posting on HIS (read: HIS! read: HIS) website! ofcourse we can ask for nice, and normal and friendly conversation that is always appriciated, I agree , BUT when it doesnt happen who am I (!) or you or ANYBODY (but Richard) to judge other people? Let Richard be the one to decide,and since he doesnt set out any rules we can post whatever we want. And ofcourse if you dont like a certain post you can comment, or react OR dont react....Free choice people, and freedom of speech! It is still Richard's site WE are using .... And I am glad Richard is leaving everything open and not editing any messages, if he tends to do so it his right, if not it's also his right (or any moderators on this site) Again, I am just seeing through YV words that instead of wishing she means "wanting" , but I know she puts her words politely, and I tend to do the same ... The difference is that I dont tell OTHERS what to do on a "public" forum ... This is just my humble opinion! Stefan |
| bitesthedust 02.01.2006 16:35 |
I've followed this post for most of the day...I agree with what Barbara, Linda & Mari all commented...but I'll just add my twopenneth. If a particular person does not like another person or does not the content of a particular thread, I believe the best thing to do is simply ignore them or it, rather than starting fights... I'll hold my hands up and fully accept in the past I have contributed on one or two occasions to stupid arguments here but I have seen the light, so to speak. Unfortunately this particular forum is a free-for-all, like the General Discussion and in these particular forums is where the aforementioned problems occur. I do believe more courtesy should be shown to others in terms of requesting a particular unofficial show, but that's my opinion....especially if it's no longer available via the original torrent or rapidshare links (Montreal 1982 for example). |
| iron eagle 02.01.2006 17:24 |
YV a terrific post.... its a shame most here do not understand how special the zone is and have to take advantage of its openess and freedom from big brother... its also a shame they can not take responsiblity for their own actions, bits of attention, cruelty and meanspiritness and instead find excuses for why it is ok..... you of course will be critizied and so on for speaking the truth... why it seems to be happening already....it wont be seen as level headed, comman sense by many....just another post to bitch and complain about.... as i have said on the NB many times over the years-- we make the NB what it is... by our words, actions and treatment of others....it shows our true character whether we like admitting it or not-- i have been here longer then almost all of you.... i remember the days where the NB and chat were full and active... where there were no fights, no name calling, a time when we all became friends outside of the internet... assholes and trouble makers were met full on by all of us..together.... we looked our for each other because we were family.. not so these days in most cases.... i am grateful and thankful to call many of you family and friend.. I am grateful that there actually is a cool generally unmoderated place on the internet that people can get together, lean about each other, trade stories, meet up in real life, and so on something so opposite of the norm of internet life and i too hope in 2006 others around here realize that and do their part to help make this place better... good job my dear! |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 20:19 |
YourValentine is a very nice person to let people stay on after several ifractions of the rules. When I first started, it was around the time of Cabbage head and I got mad and made a bad thread about it. That was me being a dumbass and she let me go there. Only thread of mine that was ever moved was my MY PARENTS ARE F*CKIN AWESOME thread where I expressed my joy of Queen+PR tickets. The other problem is that if you get deleted, you can just go make another one. |
| YourValentine 02.01.2006 22:29 |
Well, Stefan, I hope your call for freedom of speech does cover my post, too. I am fully aware who owns this site, no need to remind me. The fact that Richard does not want his board moderated does not mean that Richard thinks rude behaviour is cool, I never saw a rude post by him on this board ever. It also does not mean that it's not allowed or improper to call for less abuse of the rights we all enjoy here. Only because it's possible to act like an infant does not mean that such behaviour is desirable for the rest of the users. If you feel so offended by my post why don't you take your own advice and ignore it? I am a world champion in ignoring threads on this board but I use my right as a member to voice my opinion about the state of the board. Compared to a lot of other posts here I do not think it's very harsh and when I say that I wish for something I mean that I wish for something and not "I want" or "I tell people what to do". I would appreciate if you take my words for what they are and not interpret them in a way that changes my message. I am quite capable of expressing myself the way I want to. Thanks for the support, Paulie, Mike, Janet and others. There are still many cool and friendly people here, old and new ones:) |
| jcrawford79 02.01.2006 22:42 |
YourValentine wrote: Well, Stefan, I hope your call for freedom of speech does cover my post, too. I am fully aware who owns this site, no need to remind me. The fact that Richard does not want his board moderated does not mean that Richard thinks rude behaviour is cool, I never saw a rude post by him on this board ever. It also does not mean that it's not allowed or improper to call for less abuse of the rights we all enjoy here. Only because it's possible to act like an infant does not mean that such behaviour is desirable for the rest of the users. If you feel so offended by my post why don't you take your own advice and ignore it? I am a world champion in ignoring threads on this board but I use my right as a member to voice my opinion about the state of the board. Compared to a lot of other posts here I do not think it's very harsh and when I say that I wish for something I mean that I wish for something and not "I want" or "I tell people what to do". I would appreciate if you take my words for what they are and not interpret them in a way that changes my message. I am quite capable of expressing myself the way I want to.Isn't it ironic that the very people who are championing "free speech" and no control of content are the same people criticizing you for expressing your opinions?? |
| jcrawford79 02.01.2006 22:45 |
<font color=Red>LiveAidQueen wrote: The n00b's here are getting worse everyday.These derogatory statements about QZ's newest members always amaze me....they're always written as if the author is the alpha and omega of Queenzone. Never did they have to join and be considered a "newbie" simply because they have been members since the beginning of time. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 22:52 |
You know, wouldnt YV be considered like a Queen here? Her authority allows her to delete people. I am legally blind so maybe its just me but I cant see the logic in lipping off to her... |
| Saint Jiub 02.01.2006 23:19 |
Lipping off at VY is no big deal, as long as it is done semi-respectfully. I have done it on a few occasions myself ... with no dire consequences for either of us. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 02.01.2006 23:25 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Lipping off at VY is no big deal, as long as it is done semi-respectfully. I have done it on a few occasions myself ... with no dire consequences for either of us.Dunno, have you ever heard the prase "Dont bite the hand that feeds you?" |
| pma 03.01.2006 00:01 |
And eye reelay wish dat da ppl wud wryte propah wurds like YOU (not U) and ARE (not R) and NEWBIE (not n000b pwned wned bollocksssssssssss) r33dInG 1nc0mpr3h3nS1v3 cr@p l1k3 th@t 1snt my cup of T3a |
| Maz 03.01.2006 00:43 |
YourValentine wrote: I wish that regular users of the board would start to defend the board against the brainless idiots instead of leaving. It's us who define the tone and the atmosphere of the board.I don't seem to win too many friends when I try to do that. Still, I'm here for the long haul, brainless idiots be damned. It's just harder to inteact with people you don't know. Too many young pups to keep straight. |
| Maz 03.01.2006 00:44 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:As long as you leave David Hasselhoff out of the conversation, you'll be fine.Rip Van Winkle wrote: Lipping off at VY is no big deal, as long as it is done semi-respectfully. I have done it on a few occasions myself ... with no dire consequences for either of us.Dunno, have you ever heard the prase "Dont bite the hand that feeds you?" |
| YourValentine 03.01.2006 05:33 |
I am not quite sure what "lipping off" means but it's safe to call me names :) And Hasselhoff is an American, don't blame the Germans for him. He hates us anyway because we did not want to believe that he made the Berlin wall crumble by singing "Looking For Freedom" in front of the Brandenburger Tor for a video. |
| TRS-Romania 03.01.2006 06:02 |
well this is something (off topic a bit) but funny regarding David Hasselhof David Hasselhof Reviews TV star David Hasselhof has recorded several CDs of him singing. Check out some hilarious reviews for "Best of David Hasselhof" at Amazon (you'll find more than 700 of 'em!). A few samples: * I am almost tasting and smelling every niceness of David with these CD. I think he taste of dirty leather and hair, its real good, with talent. * Having listened endlessly to this opus I can only recommend it being played from speakers to Iraq, Iran, North Korea and France to achieve true world peace with all non Americans. * I have now dumped my girlfriend, quit my job and become a hermit living in a cave. I use all my savings to purchase batteries to power my walkman just so I never have to stop listening to David's dulcet tones. * Was the world really so heartless and cruel that nothing of beauty could ever exist without being tainted and corrupted by the overwhelming evil which is so prevalent in our society? Had God truly abandon us? Then I heard this album and my heart sang, * I play David's love music so often, yet I can't seem to get enough. You can often find me standing near elevators in hopes of hearing just a few sweet notes from Best of David Hasselhoff * The songs of Daunting Hangover send trembles down my spine the way too much chili greets the toilet with happy tidings of corn husks. LOL!!!! |
| @ndy38 03.01.2006 06:04 |
I do admit there is quite a lot of crap on this board, but then again, it's not hard to ignore it. If you don't like a thread, don't post in it or don't look at it. The personal section is going to have it's ups and downs from time to time but that's just the way it is. The only problem with these forums are the spammers who delightfully share their views with us from time to time, and they are usually dealt with. The key word is tolerance. |
| Serry... 03.01.2006 06:52 |
We have old forum (well, just an old design), new one, so maybe it could be nice to have a moderated (by Richard or someone else) version as well. You can choose the one you wanna read then... |
| That guy who digs energy domes 03.01.2006 09:15 |
YourValentine wrote: I am not quite sure what "lipping off" means but it's safe to call me names :) And Hasselhoff is an American, don't blame the Germans for him. He hates us anyway because we did not want to believe that he made the Berlin wall crumble by singing "Looking For Freedom" in front of the Brandenburger Tor for a video.Nothing to do with germans maam, you could delete someone on a whim. Kind of makes me think twice about threads you have been on. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 03.01.2006 09:27 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:And another thing I wonder, are you paid to do this?YourValentine wrote: I am not quite sure what "lipping off" means but it's safe to call me names :) And Hasselhoff is an American, don't blame the Germans for him. He hates us anyway because we did not want to believe that he made the Berlin wall crumble by singing "Looking For Freedom" in front of the Brandenburger Tor for a video.Nothing to do with germans maam, you could delete someone on a whim. Kind of makes me think twice about threads you have been on. |
| goodco 03.01.2006 09:43 |
First off, the title of the thread is 'My New Year Wishes for the notice board.' by YV Ironic how many express 'wishes', and others read it as 'demands'. Most are well aware of who owns the board, the rules, etc.......we are simply making comments and 'wishes'. As to 'moderation'....yes, it does exist. When the Qzone female version of Ted Baxter (still wondering if she owns anything other than the GH CDs and videos) reported as 'news' of 'A Knight's Tale' being broadcast on ABC, I offered a bit of news. Such as the fact that this movie has been shown countless times on other networks over the years here in the States. (TNT, TBS, ABC Family, FOX, FX, etc). It's hardly news. The post doesn't show in the news section. moving on...if a person needs to know where they've posted, try link and enter your handle in the 'search'. I also wish that some wouldn't post 500 times a month. Like a carwreck, even though one tries to avoid looking, often one can't help rubbernecking. And, eye two wish sum wood sho sum intellijents and taak thare time and right propr English iph thay r nglish spickin. It's common courtesy, and they might get a few more replies to their comments. I hope Scully and Pim and Fatty and Flashman (re)appear more often. I hope that JSStuart and Sebastian etc continue their fine work for years to come, and that we're privy to their insight. And that the tinpigeon and partner give me and the wife a kiss if he's at the Q+PR DC concert. |
| iron eagle 03.01.2006 18:56 |
you will have to come to the atlanta show for that kiss stud muffin... atlanta is the place to be... of course i aint sayin nuttin about nuttin..... *twiddles thumb* |
| PieterMC 04.01.2006 11:39 |
Quite frankly this board has sunk to an all time low for me. I have been on this site since 1997 and there have been highs and lows. This is the low point. I have no problem with new fans. That's great. We don't need marquee banners in peoples names, we don't need topics about rape parties with Roger. We don't need a gazillion topics about the sexiest Queenzoner. Later.... |
| AC 04.01.2006 15:25 |
I wish YourValentine's wishes for the notice board would come true. But I have to admit that I haven't done my part in trying to make them come true. I know that I should do more to defend the board and I'll try to do it. |
| Mr Mercury 04.01.2006 15:49 |
YourValentine wrote: I am not quite sure what "lipping off" means but it's safe to call me names :)"Lipping off" usually means being cheeky. And as for calling you names, well I'd rather stick to Barbara if thats alright with you :P |
| Forever88 04.01.2006 17:08 |
Right on YV! |
| deleted user 04.01.2006 22:12 |
Good post, Barb. I agree with you, although I admit I have been absent a great deal (and that's due to the state of the board, honestly) and that I don't put any effort in keeping the board together like I used to. I do believe what you say is true, though, and that a lot of people should be thankful that they even have this board to come to. Also I hope you had a Happy New Year, Barb. :-) |
| That guy who digs energy domes 04.01.2006 23:28 |
YourValentine, how does this work? It seems like you and Richard Orchard are the "webmasters" here but does one of you own it or is this through a company? Do you get paid to do this or is it volenteer? |
| Saint Jiub 05.01.2006 00:21 |
100% volunteer. Richard is financially responsible for maintaining the website, although the ads pay for some of the expenses. That is my understanding. |
| YourValentine 05.01.2006 03:01 |
The website belongs to Richard Orchard. He created it, does all the programming and is the only owner of the website. He pays for all expenses and introduced the google ads to reduce the costs somewhat. I only help with some routine tasks like answering emails, validating pictures and Freddie messages etc - and deleting annoying marquee users (just kidding) Of course I am not paid, it's just a hobby. Queenzone is a pure fan website and it only exists because of the dedication and perseverance of Richard. It's a lot of work to keep the site running and it makes me angry when people use the notice board for their gross and brainless garbage. It should be a place where fans can meet other fans and discuss whatever they want. Any kind of language is allowed and all topics. But 10 people who seem to have grown up in the gutter are enough to scare off hundreds of regular users who used to have a lot of fun here. The personal board is the worst place at the moment followed by the sharing forums where people do not request but demand and others do not share to share the fun but share to annoy other people. Nice to see you, Alli and a very happy new year to you, too :) I hope we all can improve the board and make it what it used to be: the coolest Queen forum on the net. |
| The Mir@cle 05.01.2006 03:39 |
Isn't that why we have a personal section at this board? I mean, people can decide where they want to go. If they want to do a serious discussion about Queen, they go to the serious discussion section. In all these years Queenzone had gathered a strong group of friends who like to have fun at the personal section. I don't see that as a huge problem. I mean, after three years you've seen all the topics about Queen passing by for at least four times. I'm glad there is a personal section! But... I like to thank Barbara and Richard for their great effords. This board really changed my live, and opened my mind! |
| Togg 05.01.2006 04:58 |
I must say I don't really understand the thinking behind what gets deleted and what doesn't. I mean free speech is great and it's nice to have it, however, when posts like Rape with Roger get on here in yet someone deletes the sexy Queenzoner posts you have gotta wonder what Richard is thinking, there are young kids here and they will be influenced by at least some of this crap. Then we get Arlene spouting her tales from fantasy land and some youngers zoners where atcually going to send here there pocket money!!! For god sake if anybody needs moderating it's her, I see she is now back as if nothing had happened. And then the offensive topics, well again free speech is great but in any society rules have to be applied to teach people what is acceptable and what is not otherwise we just get chaos which is what we have here from time to time. I really don't feel the fun of having free speech is justified if people just get to run roughshod over everyone else. So my vote is that a firmer level of moderation is applied, otherwise you risk loosing all intellegent posters and what would you have then? |
| Flashman 05.01.2006 05:03 |
goodco wrote: I hope Scully and Pim and Fatty and Flashman (re)appear more often.Happy to oblige ye! That's Flashy for you - making folks dreams come true. Wet ones, where the ladies are concerned. |
| YourValentine 05.01.2006 06:15 |
@ The Miracle: I think you misunderstood. I don't think anyone has a problem with threads like for example: I am totally convinced... It's sheer nonsense and fun and does not hurt anybody. People can skip it if they don't want to be a part of it. It would be different if the topic were written in huge green letters to outshine other threads or the topic starter had a 30 letter username which blew up the board. Or if the topic starter would post 5 threads with the same title in a row etc etc - marquees are something that annoys people, too. @ Trogg: Richard did not delete yesterday's troll, it was me. It was the new incarnation of a previous troll and he will be deleted whenever he posts again, just like about 20 other trolls in the bad ip data base. Arlene is not a troll. You can think about her what you like but her posts are covered by the policy of free speech. Please remember that her thread about her financial situation would not have snowballed if not so many people had posted. I do look at threads I do not post in and when ET wanted to send money I spoke to her and I spoke to Barry as well. But basically, the QZ users are supposed to look out for themselves, this is not a safe environment. From experience I know that older users look out for the younger members and that was always great about this board. As to the "Roger rape" thread - if you delete this topic you have to make strict rules what is allowed and what is not allowed. We do not have such rules and we will never have them. If you want to moderate a board in such a way you need at least 5 people who monitor the board all the time and who would want this. You cannot have "some" moderation - either the board is moderated and you have censorship or you have to live with some people who have no ethics and think they are "cool" posting such crap. It's the response of the majority of the board which stops them. However, I admit there have been very few cases of censorship when people crossed the line in an outrageous way. |
| Togg 05.01.2006 06:50 |
Well I take your point, but I think in time you will find the folk you want to have here will drift away if the rules don't get tighend up. Sure young Queenzoners can in theory look after themselves but it got right up to the wire on that one, which frankly disgusted me. I have no time or respect for Arlene now no matter how long she has been here and how many wonderful posts she has made, the fact remains that she either a) blatantly tried to trick youngsters or b) didn't try to but didn't step in to stop it and continued to spin the lies, and yes they were lies. Sadly we live in a world were the internet means people can hide behind walls and pretend to be anyone or anything, speaking as a Father, I am very concerned that young kids can get lead astray on the internet and now having watched it first hand I am amazed at how easy and painless it was, sorry but that was more disturbing to read than a thousand pick, rape, screwing topics will ever be, it was live, and happening right before our eyes. Even now there our peole here who still seem reluctant to see it for what it was, and I am again sorry if she is a friend of yours but as far as I'm concerned she is bottom feeding scum. Spining lies to get attention and then tricking youngsters in not acceptable in the outside world, why is it accepted on the internet? I understand your reluctance to impose too many rules and generally I aplaud it, however, if you set up a website ultimately it is your resopnsibilty to regulate it if you allow others to contribute, as you (well Richard) is effectively responsible for the content, like it or not. Just as newspaper Editors are responsible for there content on amount of claims otherwise prevent them from being held accountable. The simple fact is people need rules, whether they are friends or strangers, this is an online community and it does need regulating by the owners. |
| YourValentine 05.01.2006 09:55 |
I try to make you understand me because I respect you and what you contribute to this board. Arlene is not my friend. On the contrary, I find her disgusting. I dislike everything she does, her hysterical way, her lies and pretenses. I did not like her from the start and I stopped posting in her threads pretty quickly. I usually do not say something bad about people on this board but Arlene is a special case because obviously she managed to make people believe that we are friends of some sort which we are not. I agree with every word you said and in fact I did act when I saw how ET responded to the situation. It was one of the rare cases when I actually contacted members about a notice board issue. I spoke to ET and she consulted her dad on the matter. I know that other board members take responsibilty too when they see something that needs to be addressed. This is not my message board, I am a member like everybody else and I would not dream to try and bully someone off the board. Even if it were my message board I would not want this. I would not want to select people according to my personal taste. How boring would that be. I also do not think that QZ is a childrens website. When children post here, it's the responsibility of their parents, not Richard's. The internet is not a movie theater where you can ask people's ID at the entry. It's every parent's responsibility to ensure that their kids only visit websites that are appropriate for their age. That does not mean that I approve of Arlene's behaviour or condone some language displayed on this board - but it's not about me or my taste. And rules - rules make no sense as long as you do not enforce them and that means a moderated board. I remember that QZ used to have rules you signed when you registered for the old board (before July 2001)but the board was very small in those days with only a few dozen people posting. Edit: I see you removed the comment about Arlene being my friend but I leave my post anyway - to avoid all misunderstandings. |
| Togg 05.01.2006 10:16 |
Thanks YV I do understand your point of view, BTW I didn't edit anything but some posts seem to come and go at the moment. I know it's not your board and am encouraged by your view of Arlene as I was begining to wonder whether I was alone in this. I guess we will have to agree to disagree as it were, I think my view is that if you set up a board for people to contribute to then you (Richard) are effectively responsible for the content whether you want or intend that or not. I generally like the way QZ is run and a lot of the posts are very interesting, I just feel that it is easy to misinterpret 'free speech' my view is that free speech allows one the right to disagree and voice your opinion, it does not however afford you the right to be offensive. In the UK we allow free speech however there is a code of conduct that moderates offensive behavour. YV, this was in no way a dig at you, I understand your position, however as we are voicing hopes for the site this year I threw in mine after recent events. Happy New Year |
| That guy who digs energy domes 05.01.2006 11:19 |
What is so bad about them talking about Roger? You think they are going toatly beg Roger to come to an orgie(orgy?)? Its their fun little game. If people dont it they should stay out. |
| Saint Jiub 05.01.2006 11:53 |
Maybe you could find your own private little Chat room. I cannot imagine anyone talking like this in a public place. Would you not get thrown out of a sports arena for a blatant conversation like this?. However, if you swore a little bit in a sports arena, there would be little danger of you being thrown out of the arena. |
| jcrawford79 05.01.2006 13:10 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: What is so bad about them talking about Roger? You think they are going toatly beg Roger to come to an orgie(orgy?)? Its their fun little game. If people dont it they should stay out.Are you serious??? What's wrong with a post about orgy-raping Roger? Its rediculously immature and most certainly maintained by socially misfit teenagers. Although I am against moderation, these sort of threads make me understand why so many get so upset about the content of the forum. Perhaps we should start a new forum for the above members of Queenzone with threads about: -penis length -orgies with Roger -how many men Freddie slept with -seeking street addresses of Queen members -expressing religious convictions concerning homosexuality And begin each thread with a disclaimer such as: I understand that the reading of the following threads serve only to lower my intellect and portray me as a douche, and with that understanding, willingly participate in the debauchery. |
| Maz 05.01.2006 13:28 |
jcrawford79 wrote:As much as I agree with that comment, QOW won't get it. He. Just. Won't. Get. It.wrote: What is so bad about them talking about Roger? You think they are going toatly beg Roger to come to an orgie(orgy?)? Its their fun little game. If people dont it they should stay out.Are you serious??? What's wrong with a post about orgy-raping Roger? Its rediculously immature and most certainly maintained by teenagers. Not just teenagers, but socially misfit teenagers. I have no beef with teenagers in general, but it seems as if many here have an inflated sense of self-importance and no concept of maturity (how's that for overgeneralizations). I don't mind the occassional post, but an entire thread about rape fantasies followed by a "it's totally harmless" comment is completely immature. But, perhaps, that can be expected from someone who uses the scrolling marquee in order to find his own posts. |
| jcrawford79 05.01.2006 13:35 |
You are correct, Zeni. However, I think my post is misleading in reference to teens. I attempted to clarify that with the socially misfit line. Will have to edit that post. There are many teens on here with decent posts. |
| Maz 05.01.2006 13:44 |
jcrawford79 wrote: There are many teens on here with decent posts.I agree. Unfortunately, I forget about their posts due to the over-the-top posts from a few. With so many teenagers on QZ, the bad apples tend to rise to the top. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 05.01.2006 13:48 |
But thing is, if you dont like the thread, stay out of it. |
| TheTruth 05.01.2006 13:48 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: But thing is, if you dont like the thread, stay out of it.That is just a lame..... Just don't make retarded topics in the first place. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 05.01.2006 13:55 |
TheTruth wrote:What YOU define as retarded.<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: But thing is, if you dont like the thread, stay out of it.That is just a lame..... Just don't make retarded topics in the first place. |
| Maz 05.01.2006 13:56 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: But thing is, if you dont like the thread, stay out of it.RE-read this entire thread. We have no moderation, thus, we moderate ourselves. This is not your personal playground, nor is it mine. But, like it or not, for QZ to survive, we must police ourselves. I never commented in your game or wrestling threads. If you choose to post in them, fine. They're harmless to me, as well as being uninteresting. But when threads about rape occur, they devalue the whole board. It is our responsibility as intelligent QZers to point out when some users go too far. |
| Lester Burnham 05.01.2006 16:39 |
I must say that I agree with all the voices of reason here, especially YV. I've found the board to be less and less enjoyable to visit recently, and it's not for a lack of trying - I've been posting my album discussion threads in Serious Discussion, and while some of them may have been hit-or-miss, I really do enjoy reading what people have to say about the band. That said, I find it a chore recently to come here. There are people that I enjoy interacting with, but they are sadly the minority. There are a lot of immature people on here, both new and old, and while I'll admit to stooping to their level at times, I just can't help but shake my head in disappointment at the "Rape Roger" thread, the "Freddie & Roger & Handcuffs" thread, and various other threads in which disturbed, obsessed fanatics let loose and profess their twisted, unhealthy sexual fantasies toward members of Queen. Even the Personal section, which I found to be enjoyable recently, has become a safe haven for Arlene to post her drivel about the most useless shit that no one in their right mind would give two farts about. Honestly, I find it absurd that she came back to this board as if nothing had happened. Although I would like to wonder how such a poverty-stricken person is able to watch "A Knight's Tale" on television and then report it as breaking news the following day. But I digress, as Arlene isn't my main point, even though I can't stand her and find her to be a canker sore on the mouth of Queenzone. This place is becoming less enjoyable for me, and it's not because other people don't try - I understand what YV is saying, and I don't want her to take this the wrong way, because I personally believe in free speech and all that. But you've gotta draw the line somewhere, and if we don't, QZ will just continue to spiral downward into oblivion, being overrun by teenagers with too much free time on their hands. Queen of Wrestling (a very ironic name for such a... manly sport), I find your marquee to be obtrusive and attention whoring. Why, of all the people on this board, should your justification for a marquee be so that you can find your posts easier? Do you really post all that much worthwhile stuff to begin with? Already you've littered several discussion forums here with info about your game, which could have easily been consolidated into one thread. There don't necessarily need to be rules, but there should be some sort of etiquette before posting. It's frustrating, because I really do enjoy coming here normally and interacting with people. Not only the regulars like Sir GH, Fenderek, John S Stuart, Flashman, and so forth (of course, my sparring enemy, the Australian me - iGSM - needs not be mentioned), but also new fans hungry for knowledge about Queen. I liked it better when Richard disabled font coloring and marquees, all HTML, to be exact. It just cheapens the board and makes everything like unorganized. Anyway, that's my two cents, so I'll just slink back into lurk mode for the time being. Ta, all. |
| AC 05.01.2006 17:03 |
Queen Of Wrestling wrote: But thing is, if you dont like the thread, stay out of it.This is not the point. That thread (and some of YOUR thread and posts as well) was stupid, sick and offensive. And this is a fact, not a point of view. You really would not like me to post some threads where I write about you being sexually abused by animals, wouldn't you? |
| Maz 05.01.2006 17:11 |
No one benefits from camel porn, AC. |
| AC 05.01.2006 17:17 |
Zeni wrote: No one benefits from camel porn, AC.I would like to talk about certain things with you, dear Zeni. Face to face. Human to camel. |
| Micrówave 05.01.2006 17:24 |
Oh, then I guess I'm the troll then, right? And instead of responding to my respectful post, you delete it? |
| YourValentine 05.01.2006 17:26 |
Send me an email, Microwave |
| Micrówave 05.01.2006 17:32 |
I'm afraid you'll give it to Barry C. No offense, but you strike me as his "friend". And what he did was far worse than any post I've made. Keep in mind, not one vulgarity from me either. |
| AC 05.01.2006 17:34 |
Mircrowave wrote: I'm afraid you'll give it to Barry C. No offense, but you strike me as his "friend". And what he did was far worse than any post I've made. Keep in mind, not one vulgarity from me either.I'm not a friend of Barry and I don't know what happened betwwen you and him. But I think you should trust YourValentine and send her an email as this is a way to solve the problem. |
| jcrawford79 05.01.2006 17:34 |
Lester Burnham wrote: That said, I find it a chore recently to come here. There are people that I enjoy interacting with, but they are sadly the minority. There are a lot of immature people on here, both new and old, and while I'll admit to stooping to their level at times, I just can't help but shake my head in disappointment at the "Rape Roger" thread, the "Freddie & Roger & Handcuffs" thread, and various other threads in which disturbed, obsessed fanatics let loose and profess their twisted, unhealthy sexual fantasies toward members of Queen.I agree with all you just said. Although I've only been a member for just less than a year, I've found this to be a very enjoyable (and sometimes informative) place. And call me blindly optimistic, but I think the members responsible for the lunacies posted recently will leave as abruptly as they came. |
| Micrówave 05.01.2006 17:35 |
Yes, I've thought that. But I also don't have her email address. |
| YourValentine 05.01.2006 17:39 |
just click on the "contact us" link on top of this page |
| AC 05.01.2006 17:41 |
I hope you can find a peaceful solution to the problem. |
| Micrówave 05.01.2006 17:54 |
Me too!! I'm a harmless microwave. |
| Micrówave 05.01.2006 18:04 |
YourValentine wrote: Send me an email, MicrowaveOk, done. We'll see. Now if Haystacks could only make me laugh... |
| iron eagle 05.01.2006 18:57 |
agh the rape thread-- us longtimers-- will remember that this 'fantasy' stuff appeared before too.... at one point even having its on area on the NB-- agh those were the days egh folks?..... dick sizes of the band members, what you would do to them and with them, who licked the best, wet dream fantasy's... goodness there were so many many decried it, others defended it and claimed those upset by it were unwelcoming to newbies, censors etc. it quietly left....as did the many of the posters of the stuff funny how things go in circles egh? |
| Erin 05.01.2006 19:42 |
I feel like I need to go into QZ hibernation for a couple of months. Wake me when it's time for the tour talk/planning...ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz ;-) |
| doremi 06.01.2006 15:08 |
To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. link |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 06.01.2006 15:14 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: I can't believe people don't see the problem in that rape thread..it's unbelievable.I know, as I said the 'Rogers Tackle' thread was a laugh - but i can see why people would find it bloody irritating - but a thread about a 'Rape Orgie' is just shameful, how somebody was ignorant or stupid enough to put that up there I don't know..It's an embarrassment really. |
| AC 06.01.2006 15:20 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board.Hypocrites? HYPOCRITES? Like, for example, a person who tries to steal money from a teeneager and then acts like she did nothing? Please leave. You're disgusting. |
| Lester Burnham 06.01.2006 15:23 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. linkRight, and you're the epitome of perfection. |
| Maz 06.01.2006 15:27 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. linkI re-read my posts, and I'm pretty sure I'm saying the same thing now. Not a hypocrite here. Perhaps you'd like to give some examples, Arlene, of who is. |
| Lester Burnham 06.01.2006 15:30 |
Zeni wrote:I would be interested in that too. Upon re-reading the thread, I was either goofing off with iGSM (no surprise there) or writing something serious and neutral, not particularly harsh of BluEyed, but asking her to clarify what she meant.Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. linkI re-read my posts, and I'm pretty sure I'm saying the same thing now. Not a hypocrite here. Perhaps you'd like to give some examples, Arlene, of who is. Unlike Arlene there, who offered the most informative comments about boogers or whatever else. I couldn't be bothered to read what she wrote, but if boogers amuses her so much, then perhaps my new name here will also tickle her funny bone. |
| TheTruth 06.01.2006 15:51 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z.Once you explain to everybody why you posted after you were apparetly supposed to be at work one day then perhaps you can call somebody a hypocrite. Strange that you never did respond to that. Of course you always ignore any negative comments directed at yourself. I suggest you go back and carry on your sexual conversations with the teenagers....... |
| Music Man 06.01.2006 15:57 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. linkEverything I had said in that thread is just as pertinent then as it is now. I don't mean that you should go back and read it...maybe I'll compile it here or something. Maybe not. |
| Erin 06.01.2006 16:03 |
Caaaan you feeeel the looove toniiight.... |
| Serry... 06.01.2006 16:06 |
It is where we are, it's enough for this wide-eyed wanderer, that we got this far... |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 06.01.2006 16:07 |
<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:True..I have my regrets about taking part in that topic I have to say..And that damned topic won't go away..it's when people start talking about 'arse eating' and similar that really worries me..<font color=violet>Poppy wrote:Yes and even then I'm changing my mind that perhaps even a thread on Rogers Tackle (though meant to be a laugh) shouldn't be allowed considering they just won't know when to stop *rolls eyes*<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote: I can't believe people don't see the problem in that rape thread..it's unbelievable.I know, as I said the 'Rogers Tackle' thread was a laugh - but i can see why people would find it bloody irritating - but a thread about a 'Rape Orgie' is just shameful, how somebody was ignorant or stupid enough to put that up there I don't know..It's an embarrassment really. |
| Music Man 06.01.2006 16:19 |
Barry © wrote: It is worrying considering most are just teenagers lusting after an old geezer.That's my take on things. But you know, that Bea Arthur...I'd hit that. |
| LiveAidQueen 06.01.2006 16:46 |
I'm sick of the scrolling topic titles. Seriously, it's not cool. |
| LiveAidQueen 06.01.2006 16:47 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:I didn't act stupid.<font color=Red>LiveAidQueen wrote: The n00b's here are getting worse everyday.You were new once too. |
| Lester Burnham 06.01.2006 17:13 |
And yet, amazingly, Arlene has not responded back to this topic. Hmm. |
| Erin 06.01.2006 17:17 |
Lester Poopham wrote: And yet, amazingly, Arlene has not responded back to this topic. Hmm.No big surprise there. Of course, the library might have closed for the day..;-) |
| Lester Burnham 06.01.2006 17:37 |
Erin wrote:Ahh, yes... well, round these here parts (suburbs of Philly), the libraries are open until at least 9pm on weekday nights. Although, considering it's Friday...Lester Poopham wrote: And yet, amazingly, Arlene has not responded back to this topic. Hmm.No big surprise there. Of course, the library might have closed for the day..;-) Nah, fuck it, I won't defend her. She just knows we're calling her out on her shit! |
| Lisser 08.01.2006 16:22 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. linkI posted in that thread and I don't see anything hypocritical about what I said. I stand by what I said then and now. I didn't treat Blueyedflu_z bad, why would I? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 08.01.2006 16:36 |
This reminds me of when PTC attacked WWF. A lot of arguing with nothing accomplished. |
| Togg 09.01.2006 03:58 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: To the many hypocrites who discuss how to properly act, conduct one self, act on this board. Look in the mirror, every one of you and see your own selves in this topic and how hideously you all treadted the topic starter, Bludeydflu_z. linkGlad to see your reading the posts about you Arlene. whether you reply to them or not at least we know they hit home. Now I suggest you take a long hard look at yourself before bothering to come back here. It's time you were grown up enough to be at least honest with yourself, go on make it your New Years resolution. |
| Fenderek 09.01.2006 05:15 |
Man- remeber Lisa Gordich (or whatever the hell itr was) and when we were wandering if Arlene and Lisa are the same person? She strongly denied and it's very possible it is truth- that they're completely different people. Still- the similarities are AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |