tia 30.12.2005 08:48 |
I read on another site that Roger played bass for Sheer Heart Attack. Why? Where was John? |
Last Cyborg 30.12.2005 09:54 |
He played bass on the song Sheer Heart Attack, not the album, if that's what was confusing you. He played guitar on that song too, and some people think he sung it, amusingly. |
Lester Burnham 30.12.2005 10:12 |
Roger played bass and rhythm guitar on 'Sheer Heart Attack' and 'Fight From The Inside', because he had the feeling and sound he wanted in his head and I guess knew better than John how to play it. Personally, I love the amateurish bass; it's just so fat and distorted. I also think Roger played bass on 'More Of That Jazz', 'Rock It (Prime Jive)', 'A Human Body', and 'Hijack My Heart', but I have no proof whatsoever to back that up. It just sounds like him, I suppose - messier than John's usual fluid style. |
~-:Moet et Chandon:-~ 30.12.2005 10:45 |
Wow this is so interesting, I've always wondered which 'unusual' instruments members have played. On the GVH2 DVD I smiled when I saw John on drums (One Vision video, Extended perhaps?). Has he ever actually played drums on a recorded song? Has Brian? And has Brian ever played bass? On which other songs has John played guitar (not bass) ? |
Freya is quietly judging you. 30.12.2005 10:48 |
John played most of the guitars on 'Misfire' |
~-:Moet et Chandon:-~ 30.12.2005 11:03 |
Wow cool, will listen to it now...(I've never liked Misfire lol but anyway maybe I'll hear it differently now) |
Lester Burnham 30.12.2005 11:28 |
~-:Moet et Chandon:-~ wrote: Wow this is so interesting, I've always wondered which 'unusual' instruments members have played. On the GVH2 DVD I smiled when I saw John on drums (One Vision video, Extended perhaps?). Has he ever actually played drums on a recorded song? Has Brian? And has Brian ever played bass? On which other songs has John played guitar (not bass) ?The only thing Brian played bass on was 'Dancer', and that was synth bass. Other than that, he's only played bass on his solo stuff - can't remember which songs off the top of my head, but I think 'On My Way Up', 'All The Way From Memphis', and 'Business'. Most of the stuff from Another World, actually, and only one or two songs from Back To The Light. Apart from drum machines programmed by the others, Roger always played drums on a Queen song. |
deleted user 30.12.2005 11:35 |
Last Cyborg wrote: He played bass on the song Sheer Heart Attack, not the album, if that's what was confusing you. He played guitar on that song too, and some people think he sung it, amusingly.How is it that people think the Roger sang on that? It doesn't sound like him at all! |
Serry... 30.12.2005 11:49 |
Lester Burnham wrote: The only thing Brian played bass on was 'Dancer', and that was synth bass. Other than that, he's only played bass on his solo stuff - can't remember which songs off the top of my head, but I think 'On My Way Up', 'All The Way From Memphis', and 'Business'. Most of the stuff from Another World, actually, and only one or two songs from Back To The Light. Apart from drum machines programmed by the others, Roger always played drums on a Queen song.Brian also played synth-bass in 'F.B.I' (I mean song :)) Freddie played synth-bass in 'Body Language'. Roger also played synth-bass in 'Action This Day'. |
kohuept 30.12.2005 14:22 |
<B><font color=black>*39*</B> wrote:The same people that think Brian sang individual words (not even lines or the last verse) of Mother Love.Last Cyborg wrote: He played bass on the song Sheer Heart Attack, not the album, if that's what was confusing you. He played guitar on that song too, and some people think he sung it, amusingly.How is it that people think the Roger sang on that? It doesn't sound like him at all! Some people can just tune into that stuff and others cannot - at all. |
mattsmith 30.12.2005 17:08 |
Just a question. As John wrote i want to break free, did he play any of the guitar on the studio version, or was it brian or a mixture of both? |
inu-liger 30.12.2005 20:11 |
Serry... wrote:Brian has been playing bass on newer post-Deacon Queen recordings.Lester Burnham wrote: The only thing Brian played bass on was 'Dancer', and that was synth bass. Other than that, he's only played bass on his solo stuff - can't remember which songs off the top of my head, but I think 'On My Way Up', 'All The Way From Memphis', and 'Business'. Most of the stuff from Another World, actually, and only one or two songs from Back To The Light. Apart from drum machines programmed by the others, Roger always played drums on a Queen song.Brian also played synth-bass in 'F.B.I' (I mean song :)) Freddie played synth-bass in 'Body Language'. Roger also played synth-bass in 'Action This Day'. He is definitely credited for playing bass on "We Will Rock You" (with 5ive), "Solo Por Ti" (Eva Maria) / "No-One But You (Only The Good Die Young)" (Kerry Ellis) -WWRY musical versions-, and "We Will Rock You" (with Britney Spears, Pink and Beyonce), on the credits sleeve. I suspect he also played bass on the John Farnham re-recording of WWRY as well. I don't know about "Invincible Hope", "Amandla", and "46664 - The Call" from the 46664 recordings tho, whether he played more than guitar and piano on those recordings as well. |
boca 30.12.2005 20:27 |
I thought John played bass on "No-One But You". On video you can see him playing bass |
boca 30.12.2005 20:29 |
Ah, with Kerry Ellis, ok, sorry...didn't see |
Gordie Howe 31.12.2005 00:25 |
Roger did a lot of other things on albums (ex bass/rhythm guitar on SHA) and my band does the same. Like im the drummer of the band yet I play bass on a few songs and guitar on a few but I drum on most. Its just how the songwriter feels about how the rhythm should go. |
The Real Wizard 31.12.2005 01:15 |
Lester Burnham wrote: The only thing Brian played bass on was 'Dancer', and that was synth bass. Other than that, he's only played bass on his solo stuff - can't remember which songs off the top of my head, but I think 'On My Way Up', 'All The Way From Memphis', and 'Business'. Most of the stuff from Another World, actually, and only one or two songs from Back To The Light. Apart from drum machines programmed by the others, Roger always played drums on a Queen song.Lester, you always beat me to it!!!!!!!!!!!! :P You suck. |
Serry... 31.12.2005 04:15 |
Inu-Liger<h6>-The Blu-Ray Fanatic- wrote: I don't know about "Invincible Hope", "Amandla", and "46664 - The Call" from the 46664 recordings tho, whether he played more than guitar and piano on those recordings as well.Steve Stroud played bass on these recordings. |
~-:Moet et Chandon:-~ 31.12.2005 04:58 |
Brian seems like he's done a fair deal of bass-playing. Not that bass is all that difficult to play (at any rate, in those songs which he played I imagine the basslines aren't overly complicated) but still, he's even more versatile than I imagined. All sorts of guitars, bass, the harp, piano, keyboards, vocals, songwriting, he's awesome! |
Penetration_Guru 31.12.2005 07:43 |
Sleevenotes are a new invention are they? |
Serry... 31.12.2005 08:12 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Sleevenotes are a new invention are they?No - for the people who download Queen music from the Internet... Modern times... |
deleted user 31.12.2005 13:53 |
~-:Moet et Chandon:-~ wrote: Wow this is so interesting, I've always wondered which 'unusual' instruments members have played. On the GVH2 DVD I smiled when I saw John on drums (One Vision video, Extended perhaps?). Has he ever actually played drums on a recorded song? Has Brian? And has Brian ever played bass? On which other songs has John played guitar (not bass) ?John didn't play drums on One Vision, he just played around in the studio :P |
Penetration_Guru 31.12.2005 17:07 |
Brian played bass on the original Driven By You as well as lots of his other solo stuff. |
inmsthebest 31.12.2005 17:50 |
One thing about sleevenotes. Some of us haven't bought every Queen album, not because downloading for free, maybe just because some friends are so kind to share theirs and we just do the same with the ones we've got. Maybe we're just starting our collection and are not as wise as you are, that's why we ask for your unvaluable help. I don't understand why that bothers some people so much. When I got all the Beatles official and unofficil stuff I just loved anybody asking me and I helped in anyway I could to make people know them better because that meant they would love them and understand them musically better. But well, it's only a point of view. Thanks anyway. ;) |
Serry... 31.12.2005 18:00 |
If you don't have sleeves, you always can open: Ron's link Andy's link Ian's link Sebastian's link link link |
inmsthebest 31.12.2005 18:17 |
Thank you very much Serry. |
inu-liger 01.01.2006 07:16 |
Serry... wrote:Who?Inu-Liger<h6>-The Blu-Ray Fanatic- wrote: I don't know about "Invincible Hope", "Amandla", and "46664 - The Call" from the 46664 recordings tho, whether he played more than guitar and piano on those recordings as well.Steve Stroud played bass on these recordings. |
Serry... 01.01.2006 08:14 |
Recorded by Justin Shirley Smith and Toby Alington. Mixed by David Richards and Joshua J Macrae at Mountain Studios, Montreux, Switzerland, and The Priory, Surrey, England. The main members of the 'house band' are: Spike Edney (keyboards, vocals) Jamie Moses (guitars, vocals) Steve Stroud (bass, vocals) Eric Singer (drums) Chris Thompson, Treanna Morris and Zoe Nicholas (backing vocals) All tracks also feature the Soweto Gospel Choir |
Serry... 08.01.2006 09:20 |
After watching Brian's fab performance in Tromso I've noticed that this Steve Stroud played bass there also. |
Sebastian 08.01.2006 11:03 |
> Brian seems like he's done a fair deal of bass-playing. I kind of like his style. He's got no rhythm sense (like John Lennon) but I like his melodic approach. Still I think Brian was/is an exceptional bass-line composer (check 'Teo Toriatte' or 'Show Must Go On') rather than a player. > All sorts of guitars, bass, the harp, piano, keyboards, vocals, songwriting, he's awesome! He's very skillful on the keyboards, but not on harp: he recorded it via cut n' paste. It's not that he "could" play it whatsoever. > I also think Roger played bass on 'More Of That Jazz', 'Rock It (Prime Jive)', 'A Human Body', and 'Hijack My Heart' The bass in More Of That Jazz sounds similar in style to Fight From The Inside so it can be. Rock It is minimalistic but who knows... > On which other songs has John played guitar (not bass) ? Almost all of his own compositions (Best Friend being a notable exception), and ocassionally some of the other's (Staying Power, Funny How Love Is, all acoustic parts in Sheer Heart Attack album). It was rhythm or acoustic guitar of course, not the solo parts, except perhaps Misfire (the solo is very easy and he certainly could do it) and perhaps 'Who Needs You', which has always been a discussion here. Both John and Brian were capable of handling the solos so any option is possible. Maybe one of them played the short one and the other did the long... > As John wrote i want to break free, did he play any of the guitar on the studio version, or was it brian or a mixture of both? Since there are no credits in The Works album, anything could happen. I *guess* John would have played acoustic guitar, electric rhythm and keyboards since he had a better idea of how he wanted them. All Brian did was the obviously Red Special-originated three-part guitar choruses (e.g. at the end of the intro). The solo is actually Fred Mandel at a Jupiter 8, but of course Brian played it live. > Sleevenotes are a new invention are they? Still they don't give us everything. Sleevenotes have omitted details such as Brian's piano in All Dead and Flash, organ in Wedding March and whoever plays the organs of Liar and Now I'm Here as well. It just proves once again that they're not as keen on such things as we are. Some albums (Jazz, Game, Works, Miracle) haven't even got who-played-what credits and, according to NOTW sleevenote, only Roger & Brian did backing vocals, therefore, apparently, there are no harmonies made by Fred in Champions (absurd) or Get Down Make Love (over-absurd). And according to ANATO's, there only would be Roger's voices in I'm In Love With My Car, Bo Rhap and Seaside (brass section), which would mean then that he didn't sing anything in Prophet's Song, '39, Best Friend and Two Legs. There are uncredited guest backing vocalists here and there too (Teo, Rockyou, Seven Seas). |
Penetration_Guru 08.01.2006 12:22 |
My point was that Sleevenotes DO answer the original question, and many others that are asked around here. |
Sebastian 14.01.2006 07:44 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: My point was that Sleevenotes DO answer the original question, and many others that are asked around here.I'll belt up then ;) |
Bobby_brown 14.01.2006 10:26 |
> On which other songs has John played guitar (not bass) ? Almost all of his own compositions (Best Friend being a notable exception), and ocassionally some of the other's (Staying Power, Funny How Love Is, all acoustic parts in Sheer Heart Attack album). It was rhythm or acoustic guitar of course, not the solo parts, except perhaps Misfire (the solo is very easy and he certainly could do it) and perhaps 'Who Needs You', which has always been a discussion here. Both John and Brian were capable of handling the solos so any option is possible. Maybe one of them played the short one and the other did the long... > As John wrote i want to break free, did he play any of the guitar on the studio version, or was it brian or a mixture of both? The solo is actually Fred Mandel at a Jupiter 8, but of course Brian played it live.I read an article about John Deacon on "BAss Guitar" some years ago where they claim he have manage to learn to play "Classical Gas" on classical guitar. If this is true i am positive that he is a better acoustic guitar player than Brian. Don't get me wrong, but for what i've seen of Brian on acoustic, the way he picks (with his pinky) the strings, turns the guitar more difficult to play. On electric guitar he's Brian well all know. The solo for IWTBF is Brian on guitar. I think this was dicuscussed before, and i'm recaling an article about it (i can be wrong, though). Are there any oficial saying about the solo being played on Keyboards? Take care |
Sebastian 14.01.2006 12:47 |
> If this is true i am positive that he is a better acoustic guitar player than Brian. Then it'd explain why John played acoustic not only in his own songs (e.g. he played in Queen II even if he didn't write anything there). > Don't get me wrong, but for what i've seen of Brian on acoustic, the way he picks (with his pinky) the strings, turns the guitar more difficult to play. You may have a point there. Brian was never too technical, though the way he played at his own particular approach made things like Love Of My Life (live), White Queen solo (studio) or The Prophet's Song intro sound very beautifully. It's a similar case as with his piano playing: far from being technically great or rhythmically "accurate", but he got the feeling right and played some stuff like nobody else (e.g. Dear Friends, All Dead). 'Who Needs You' is obviously played in a different form to Love Of My Life etc, still it's not too technical (imo) for either one of them. As a matter of fact I think that Brian and John are almost interchangeable in most of the acoustic parts (i.e. neither John wouldn't have had any problem in playing '39's strummings, nor Brian would have find difficult to record You And I's raucous bits). The only acoustic part that's clearly beyond both is of course Innuendo. Back to 'Who Needs You', some of the reasons that make me think it's John during the solos (at least the long one) are: - The playing is rather "cleaner" than what we usually found in Brian's acoustic work of the era (Love Of My Life live, Prophet's Song, Dreamer's Ball). - Some fingerpicking patterns are very reminiscent of the acoustic spacers in 'Spread Your Wings' and 'In Only Seven Days'. - I usually find the ending of the long show-off(repeating a similar reversed arpeggio three times) a possible signal of rookie soloism (which otoh could merely mean that Brian or John, whoever played it, wasn't used to that style). Still of course I don't know for sure, the part itself doesn't sound very Brian-esque but remember he was a very versatile player able to perform solos that didn't remind you of his previous ones. And besides the quote about Classical Gas, we don't know to which extent John's style for soloing matched what we hear there. Judging by what he did as a bassist, he was definitely technical enough to play it as nicely as we find it on the record. > The solo for IWTBF is Brian on guitar. I think this was dicuscussed before, and i'm recaling an article about it (i can be wrong, though). Are there any oficial saying about the solo being played on Keyboards? Brian said in his soapbox on 12 March 2004 "Ah, but it was a synth!!! (on the studio version anyway ...) Live, it was me of course on the Old Lady, with a Wah Wah pedal !" Before anybody says that I never believe Brian or that I only do whenever he fits "my" theories, more reasons making me certain that in the record it's a synth: - Credits: Fred Mandel is credited for the 'synth solo in Break Free'. And the song hasn't got any other instrumental solo besides that (unless you count the instrumental verse of the single release which again isn't a solo but ... an instrumental verse). - The bending patterns sound much more Jupiter 8 controlled than originated from Brian's tremolo bar. |
Thanks 14.01.2006 15:50 |
Sebastian wrote:I'd rather a number of other people belted up leaving space for the more constructive people such as yourself...Penetration_Guru wrote: My point was that Sleevenotes DO answer the original question, and many others that are asked around here.I'll belt up then ;) |