QueenZone discussion #685419
ROTC: one of the year's worst
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 24.12.2005 21:39 |
"Return of the Champions" was listed as one of the worst albums of the year: link Can't say that I disgree here. |
| deleted user 24.12.2005 21:42 |
It isn't one of the worst but it is a shame that they are stil releasing Queen albums with someone else. They should have just stuck with albums with Freddie. he'll have words with them soon enough. |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 24.12.2005 22:07 |
Yeah, Lily, they shouldn't have released this inferior album. Oh,Well |
| deleted user 24.12.2005 22:11 |
I wish Greatest Video Hits 3 was out instead. |
| jcrawford79 24.12.2005 22:21 |
Some just can't be satisfied. Queen embarked on a full-fledged worldwide tour, something that we all thought would never happen again, and even released a CD and DVD to commemorate the occasion, and some of us still remain dissatisfied. I, for one, was very satisfied with the DVD. |
| rockit22 24.12.2005 22:54 |
Remember folks, the press has always been like that with Queen. Even when Freddie was alive, they had to struggle with the press. The album Queen II did not get good reviews, it was said to be over the top. And I bet Live Killers or Live Magic did not get the best reviews. But when Freddie died, then suddenly they realized what a great talent he was. And so the story goes: Now they complain that Freddie is missing on the album. Why can't they just love the music while they are alive? On the other side: Only true artists, are the ones that get negative reviews in their lifetime, and get hounoured when passed away... it is very often the case. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 24.12.2005 23:06 |
Bitch4Freddie, are you honestly that selfish that you do not want us younger fans to enjoy the glory of a Queen concert? |
| popy 24.12.2005 23:35 |
the diferences between me and a music jornalist,is that they get paiyd to write they're opinion/personal taste in a newspaper,and i don't. they have personal tastes,so do i,so do all people in the world,but some get money just to say what they like. but in same cases is as it right,hip hop sucks...and in my opinion,the person who thinked a frog doing TRRIIMMM trimmmm and put that in a song (many songs actually,crazy hits,crazy xmas hits) must be shoot in the head |
| masterstroke_84 25.12.2005 01:01 |
I odnt give a fuck what the fucking press say... and you have to ignore that... like Brian says; the press puts a barrier between music en the people.. and he is right... that same people is the people that puts Ashlee Simpson and all that crappy/no talent people in the covers of music magazines... and using space in the same magazines that 30 years ago ocuppated Zepellin, Queen and The Beatles...i don´t know... Duck them... Queen+PR ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!! |
| All I Hear Is Radio Gaga 25.12.2005 01:46 |
Screw the press, you should create your own opinion anyways and why can't anyone just enjoy it for what it is? |
| Ayreon 25.12.2005 04:12 |
i desagree. Like the album! |
| Bobby_brown 25.12.2005 09:30 |
Reading that article is a pure waist of time!! Take care |
| mrjordy 25.12.2005 10:12 |
In my biased opinion (as if it really matters, in the scheme of things - but none the less) ROTC was by far my favorite album of 2005. I can't imagine that one would listen to "Reaching Out" blend into one of the best, rockingest versions of "Tie Your Mother..." without getting goosebumps. ROTC is no more than a run of the mill live album, but it just so happens to be a run of the mill live album from the remaining members of Queen, paired with the bluesy, lovely voice of Paul Rodgers. Like him or hate him, Paul Rodgers has given Brian and Roger whatever motivation necessary to once again grace the stage with the music of Queen. |
| mrjordy 25.12.2005 10:12 |
In my biased opinion (as if it really matters, in the scheme of things - but none the less) ROTC was by far my favorite album of 2005. I can't imagine that one would listen to "Reaching Out" blend into one of the best, rockingest versions of "Tie Your Mother..." without getting goosebumps. ROTC is no more than a run of the mill live album, but it just so happens to be a run of the mill live album from the remaining members of Queen, paired with the bluesy, lovely voice of Paul Rodgers. Like him or hate him, Paul Rodgers has given Brian and Roger whatever motivation necessary to once again grace the stage with the music of Queen. |
| All I Hear Is Radio Gaga 25.12.2005 12:28 |
mrjordy wrote: In my biased opinion (as if it really matters, in the scheme of things - but none the less) ROTC was by far my favorite album of 2005. I can't imagine that one would listen to "Reaching Out" blend into one of the best, rockingest versions of "Tie Your Mother..." without getting goosebumps. ROTC is no more than a run of the mill live album, but it just so happens to be a run of the mill live album from the remaining members of Queen, paired with the bluesy, lovely voice of Paul Rodgers. Like him or hate him, Paul Rodgers has given Brian and Roger whatever motivation necessary to once again grace the stage with the music of Queen.Thankyou I agree |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 25.12.2005 16:44 |
Yeah, I agree that the rock critics are morons. Still, do you people really think that Paul Rodgers is an acceptable alternative for Freddie Mercury?!! NO WAY! For that reason, I am actually with the critics on this issue. |
| That guy who digs energy domes 25.12.2005 17:54 |
Bitch4Freddie wrote: Yeah, I agree that the rock critics are morons. Still, do you people really think that Paul Rodgers is an acceptable alternative for Freddie Mercury?!! NO WAY! For that reason, I am actually with the critics on this issue.HE IS NOT A REPLACEMENT DIPSHIT! |
| inu-liger 25.12.2005 19:32 |
ROTC was a fine release, IMO. The DVD was better than the CD, and I was impressed with it (except for the lack of bonus material) |
| The Real Wizard 25.12.2005 20:36 |
Bitch4Freddie wrote: Yeah, I agree that the rock critics are morons. Still, do you people really think that Paul Rodgers is an acceptable alternative for Freddie Mercury?!! NO WAY! For that reason, I am actually with the critics on this issue.The biggest thing that Brian, Roger, and even Paul have been stressing for over a year is that Paul is NOT a replacement for Freddie. Do you see Paul singing in a leotard and prancing around? Clearly you are not much of a Queen fan if you haven't come across even one interview or statement from Brian, Roger, or Paul on this issue. They've made their point dozens of times. If you don't like the new collaboration, then fine. But why are you wasting your time at a generally pro-Queen forum, spouting your dislike? Really, what are you trying to accomplish? However, I'd like to note that after calling rock critics 'morons', you then proceeded to say you agree with them. How interesting. |
| DreaminQueen 25.12.2005 21:35 |
OK, ive yet to see Bitch4Freddie have a positive post about Queens current ventures. And ive also yet to see Brian May or Roger ask her opinion on such ventures. I agree with the QOW's idea why deprive us younger fans of this great thing. I also agree music journalists screw everything up in their slanted writings *cough*RollingStone*cough* And the fact has been mentioned verbatem that Pauls not replacing freddie. So lets stop feeding the spammers. |
| Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 26.12.2005 00:18 |
People, Yes, in fact Paul Rodgers did replace Freddie Mercury on the "Return of the Champions" cd. He sang in Freddie Mercury's place and so he is therefore a replacement. There is no way to really get around this fundamental fact. You say, "Well, its just temporary". But if it is "temporary", then why does he keep scheduling more and more concerts? People, stop stretching the meanings of words! Some of you sound like a bunch of lawyers. |
| calcium 26.12.2005 01:43 |
Agreed. Paul is a piece of trash, sings Freddies songs just to get the fame and money. I really can't stand him, and yes he is replacing Freddie |
| calcium 26.12.2005 01:54 |
Also. I'm sure Freddie wouldn't love the idea of somebody singing his songs, and somebody being in the spot that HE used to be in. (And i know that some of you say that Freddie wouldn't care what happens after his death, and so on.) I dont think that he would even like somebody "Fronting" (Replacing!) his place. It's his spot, thats it. |
| Rompez 26.12.2005 04:54 |
calcium wrote: Also. I'm sure Freddie wouldn't love the idea of somebody singing his songs, and somebody being in the spot that HE used to be in. (And i know that some of you say that Freddie wouldn't care what happens after his death, and so on.) I dont think that he would even like somebody "Fronting" (Replacing!) his place. It's his spot, thats it.How do you know that? |
| That guy who digs energy domes 26.12.2005 15:52 |
calcium wrote: Also. I'm sure Freddie wouldn't love the idea of somebody singing his songs, and somebody being in the spot that HE used to be in. (And i know that some of you say that Freddie wouldn't care what happens after his death, and so on.) I dont think that he would even like somebody "Fronting" (Replacing!) his place. It's his spot, thats it.Paul is not a replacement! Notice that he is doing some BC songs as well! He is not Queen, Brian and Roger are Queen, hence the Queen+. He is PR. If youve passed kindergarten math you should be able to come out with Queen+PR |
| Knute 27.12.2005 00:55 |
It's true. It's part of an insidious plan by PR to infiltrate all that we hold dear. If things go according to his master plan, soon we will have to pay for hydration when H2O becomes Water + Paul Rodgers and you better not get worked up about it, you might hyperventilate and quickly use up your daily allotment of Oxygen + Paul Rodgers, and that's no good! |
| Music Man 27.12.2005 02:08 |
Bitch4Freddie wrote: People, Yes, in fact Paul Rodgers did replace Freddie Mercury on the "Return of the Champions" cd. He sang in Freddie Mercury's place and so he is therefore a replacement. There is no way to really get around this fundamental fact. You say, "Well, its just temporary". But if it is "temporary", then why does he keep scheduling more and more concerts? People, stop stretching the meanings of words! Some of you sound like a bunch of lawyers.So what you're saying is that Queen cover bands are actually "replacing" Queen by singing Freddie's songs, by playing Brian's guitar parts? Then you, sir, are an idiot. I have recently been able to view the ROTC DVD in its entirety and I have to say I was very delighted. Not only were we able to see live performances of songs that otherwise had never been performed live by Queen, and not only were we able to see another facet of Queen through another frontman, but several other things added to my satisfaction. For three aging musicians, I was quite blown away by the high-octane performances of Paul, Brian, and Roger. They still have it. This was also quite possibly one of the most professional performances I have seen, while preserving the powerful edge of rock and roll. It truly goes to show that there is no substitute for experience. There were also many heartfelt occasions that you just wouldn't get anywhere else, at any other point and time but now. The performance of "Bohemian Rhapsody" I saw as a most perfect tribute to Freddie, and TATDOOL was a perfect reflection of Queen as it used to be. You can't find such emotion and reflection back when Queen was without a worry and at the top of their game. There is a time and place for everything, and one should always consider this. Now, maybe the CD was a bit of an inferior product. It doesn't capture the aural presentation that Queen used to have. But one thing is certain - the visual representation of ROTC coupled with its musical magnificence is something extremely powerful and unique to the Queen franchise. It is worth every penny five times over. We will never get to see Freddie perform live again, and we should never wish to. You will all agree upon the terrific legacy he left behind. Do not by any means view ROTC as a weak substitute for Freddie, but consider it a powerful new beginning, completely discrete QUEEN + PAUL ROGERS. Just my two cents. |
| KillerQueen88 27.12.2005 02:46 |
Well i must say, i liked to see the boys going on tour again! First I had my doubts on how Paul Rodgers would be....and of course it couldnt be the same without Freddie! So, when i finaly decidet to go on the concert, it was already sold out....=( But the DVD is Great! Paul has a great voice, though i wish Roger and Brian had sung more songs!... |
| That guy who digs energy domes 27.12.2005 11:17 |
You know, Bitch4Freddie has accomplished one thing that is getting me and Great King Sam to agree. onto the argueing, Paul is a very brave person to step up to the job of fronting for Queen. Not only did Freddie leave big shoes to attempt to fill but Paul has to face dousche bags like Bitch4Freddie and BPP. |
| Tero 27.12.2005 11:58 |
Music Man wrote: So what you're saying is that Queen cover bands are actually "replacing" Queen by singing Freddie's songs, by playing Brian's guitar parts? Then you, sir, are an idiot. Not only were we able to see live performances of songs that otherwise had never been performed live by Queen, and not only were we able to see another facet of Queen through another frontman, but several other things added to my satisfaction.What are those mysterious new songs Queen performed live on this tour? Surely you can't mean Roger's solo performance of Say It's Not True? In fact TATDOOL, IWIA and TSMGO had more original Queen performances on the bloody solo tours! But I'm glad you're at least admitting that Paul is in fact a member of the new Queen, and has replaced Freddie. That's the first step to recovery. :P |
| That guy who digs energy domes 27.12.2005 12:00 |
I HATE TO BREAK THIS TO ALL OF YOU BUT FREDDIE MERCURY IS DEAD! |
| That guy who digs energy domes 27.12.2005 12:07 |
..Microwave Oven wrote: yeah, well they said Hot Space sucked too. Glad I bought it!Good point microwave. They also said that Queen+PR would flop. What a bunch of dousches. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 27.12.2005 15:33 |
You know, Freddie left us 14 years ago. It sucked then, and it sucks now. Imagine being the remaining members of the band. We know they were devastated personally, but imagine how they felt professionally. Should their dreams have died with Freddie? I don't see myself going to a Queen + Paul Rodgers concert. Not because I think Paul is trying to replace Freddie - no one can replace Freddie, or even come close - but because for me it would be too sad. I did watch their Bo Rap video and I cried through it. Pathetic, I know, but that's me. Point it - they were great. As always. Paul is not Freddie. He doesn't have Freddie's charisma, stage presence, voice or movements. Nor does he pretend to. He's just a singer singing some songs and the audience is loving it. Beyond that, what more is there? |
| magicalfreddiemercury 27.12.2005 15:34 |
Sorry - double post |
| Music Man 28.12.2005 13:27 |
Tero wrote:What I meant is you can't find Brian and Roger's solo tours on DVD. Unless you can, then my bad - scratch that point. It was one of the weaker points of the post anyway.Music Man wrote: So what you're saying is that Queen cover bands are actually "replacing" Queen by singing Freddie's songs, by playing Brian's guitar parts? Then you, sir, are an idiot. Not only were we able to see live performances of songs that otherwise had never been performed live by Queen, and not only were we able to see another facet of Queen through another frontman, but several other things added to my satisfaction.What are those mysterious new songs Queen performed live on this tour? Surely you can't mean Roger's solo performance of Say It's Not True? In fact TATDOOL, IWIA and TSMGO had more original Queen performances on the bloody solo tours! But I'm glad you're at least admitting that Paul is in fact a member of the new Queen, and has replaced Freddie. That's the first step to recovery. :P |