| kdj2hot 24.12.2005 00:57 |
Okay I was just watching GHV2 and on Princes of the universe on the close up of freddie's face at the beginning when he momes the "fighting to survive in a world with the darkest powers" on the right side of his face (right side on the screen, his actual left side) it looks liek a greyish blue bruise. Could it be a sacoma (sp)? I know this is a pointless topic but posts like this is why we come to the internet |
| flash! 28068 24.12.2005 05:42 |
possibly makeup...he was wearing some to make him look like he'd been fighting, bruised, dirty like you do after a fight...and its much related to the song... |
| john bodega 24.12.2005 11:55 |
I'd have to say just dirty makeup! He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87. |
| flash! 28068 24.12.2005 11:59 |
Please explain, im stupid...get what till 87'? Sarcomas?? What are they? |
| TRS-Romania 24.12.2005 13:59 |
What Is KS? Kaposi's sarcoma (KS) is a cancer-like disease. It originally was known as a disease affecting elderly men of Eastern European or Mediterranean background. KS also occurs in African men and people with a weakened immune system. The most common cause of KS now is HIV infection. KS usually shows up in the skin, or in the linings of the mouth, nose, or eye. KS can also spread to the lungs, liver, stomach and intestines, and lymph nodes. KS involves the development of many new, tiny blood vessels. This process is called angiogenesis. KS is caused by a herpes virus called Human Herpes Virus 8 (HHV-8). In a recent study, men with HHV-8 were nearly 12 times more likely to be diagnosed with KS than men who did not have HHV-8. KS affects about 20% of people with AIDS who aren't taking anti-HIV drugs. The rate of KS has dropped by over 80% since the introduction of strong antiviral medications. KS is mostly a disease of men: there are at least 8 men with KS for each woman. It is one of the most visible signs of AIDS, because it usually shows up as spots on the skin (lesions) that look red or purple on white skin, and bluish, brownish or black on dark skin. Lesions often occur on the face, arms and legs. KS on the skin is not life threatening. However, KS lesions on the feet and legs can make it difficult to walk. If KS spreads to other parts of the body, it can cause serious problems. In the mouth lining, it can cause trouble eating and swallowing. In the stomach or gut, it can cause internal bleeding and blockages. If KS blocks lymph nodes, it can cause severe swelling of the arms, legs, face, or scrotum. The most serious form of KS is in the lungs, where it can cause a serious cough, shortness of breath, or an accumulation of fluid that can be fatal. KS can often be diagnosed by looking at the skin lesions. They are usually flat, painless, and do not itch or drain. They can look like a bruise, but a bruise will lose its purple color if you push on it; a KS lesion won't. KS lesions can grow into raised bumps or patches and grow together. Your doctor might take a small sample (a biopsy) from skin spots to examine under a microscope and confirm a diagnosis of KS. How Is KS Treated? Highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART) is the best treatment for active KS. In many people, HAART can stop the growth or even clear up skin lesions. In addition to HAART, there are different treatments for KS in the skin or in other parts of the body. In the skin, KS may not have to be treated if there are only a few lesions. Skin lesions can be: * Frozen with liquid nitrogen. * Treated with radiation. * Cut out surgically. * Injected with anti-cancer drugs or interferon alpha. * Treated with Panretin gel (retinoic acid). These treatments only deal with the skin lesions, not with KS overall. Skin lesions may come back after treatment. If KS has spread into internal organs, into internal organs, systemic (whole-body) drug treatment is used. If HAART treatment is not enough, the drugs doxorubicin (Doxil®,) daunorubicin (DaunoXome®) or paclitaxel (Taxol®) may be added. Doxil and DaunoXome are anti-cancer drugs in "liposomal" form. "Liposomal" means that tiny amounts of drug are encased in small fat bubbles (liposomes). The drugs last longer in this form and seem to move to the areas where they're needed. Some side effects are reduced with liposomal forms of drugs. Can KS Be Prevented? It is not clear how HHV-8 spreads. It might be spread through sexual activity and deep kissing. As with other opportunistic infections, a healthy immune system can control HHV-8 infection. The best way to prevent KS is by using strong anti-HIV medications to keep your immune system strong. What Else Is Being Studied for KS? Anti-cytokine approaches: There is a lot of research on cytokines, proteins that the immune system uses to stimulate cells to |
| it was electric7 24.12.2005 14:39 |
oh my god thats terrible! i'll look for it! |
| Asterik 25.12.2005 08:56 |
Freddie seems on good form in that video to me but has anyone noticed how overweight he looks in the video for AKOM. |
| inmsthebest 25.12.2005 10:39 |
MY god!!!!he has no signs of disease at all until 1987!!!!! Would you say the guy was unwell by watching that video??????He's completely healthy. Please..... |
| Stelios 25.12.2005 17:38 |
I love his appearence on this one . He looks handsome, adventurus, angry but sweet at the same time. He has got a boyish charm with a macho edge that i find attracive.My kind of man during this video-clip.But of course he had other sides too...Well... Love them all...Anyway. |
| inmsthebest 25.12.2005 17:54 |
STELIOS wrote: I love his appearence on this one . He looks handsome, adventurus, angry but sweet at the same time. He has got a boyish charm with a macho edge that i find attracive.My kind of man during this video-clip.But of course he had other sides too...Well... Love them all...Anyway.EXACTLY.:) |
| abe 26.12.2005 05:55 |
Mercury in AKOM looks very fit and tight, he has no physical attributes that would suggest he looks over weight, quite the opposite. Also in Princess he looks the same i.e. fit and looks like he has been working out a fair bit. Even in gret Pretender in 87 he looks well, its only later on we see the progression of the disease taking this toll, this subject was seriously debated some months ago, and I remember Asterik raising some fine points about the great physical decline of Mercury over the year of 1989. |
| Asterik 26.12.2005 09:37 |
Yes I actually agree with Abe here having looked at AKOM again. There's no way that you can say that anything is wrong with Mercury. Even during early '89 I don't remember a lot of people saying that he looked ill, indeed on IWIA, minus the beard and you pretty much get a chubbier version of AKOM Freddie. But as the year wore on things got worse. I suppose it's easy to say in hindsight. |
| Winter Land Man 26.12.2005 10:37 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I'd have to say just dirty makeup! He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87.Look under Freddie's arms during Live AID |
| Forever88 26.12.2005 11:29 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:i saw thoseZebonka12 wrote: I'd have to say just dirty makeup! He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87.Look under Freddie's arms during Live AID |
| john bodega 26.12.2005 13:10 |
Chubbier during I Want It All? Please. He's bony as all get out compared to what he was like in '86. The beard just helps hide things. Marks under his arms at Live Aid? Haven't seen 'em, I don't have Live Aid. Would it be fair to say that there'd be other causes for those things? And also, take into consideration that Kaposi Sarcoma are but one of a host of so-called "opportunistic infections" that attack somebody suffering from AIDS. And that this usually happens in the later stages. How come Jim Hutton 'began' to notice little red marks on Freddie's hand in '87, yet failed to notice all those enormous marks you've managed to spot? I can say without much reservation that it's probably something else. |
| magicalfreddiemercury 26.12.2005 13:50 |
I noticed a mark in the Live Aid photos also. :-( It's clear here: link |
| inmsthebest 26.12.2005 14:42 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: I noticed a mark in the Live Aid photos also. :-( It's clear here: linkI don't know what that is, but he had no signs of disease until 1987-89, he was really healthy in live aid. |
| Asterik 26.12.2005 16:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Chubbier during I Want It All? Please. He's bony as all get out compared to what he was like in '86. QUOTE] |
| inmsthebest 27.12.2005 07:50 |
Asterik wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: Chubbier during I Want It All? Please. He's bony as all get out compared to what he was like in '86. QUOTE] No I stand by what I said. In a Q magazine interview in April 1989 at that year's fan club convention one fan said that she liked Fred's new look but thought he was looking "chubby-cheeked at the moment". He definitely looked overweight in the face on that video.I agree with Asterik. H elooks fatter in "I want it all". |
| FreeSpirit328 13.01.2006 22:11 |
My god...according to that artical about KS, it suggests that Freddie had Herpies as well. Just my interpretation... |
| KensingtonLove (Dharankanawala) 14.01.2006 02:49 |
kdj2hot wrote: Okay I was just watching GHV2 and on Princes of the universe on the close up of freddie's face at the beginning when he momes the "fighting to survive in a world with the darkest powers" on the right side of his face (right side on the screen, his actual left side) it looks liek a greyish blue bruise. Could it be a sacoma (sp)? I know this is a pointless topic but posts like this is why we come to the internetLook at this one: link Here you can see in front of Freddie's left ear what appears to be two large lesions. Hello from Rai;) |
| chefman5150 14.01.2006 04:58 |
I've seen that pic, and that was as obvious as as a bell that he had two lesions there. Well that was '90, and he didn't look well in ANY of the pics taken of him that night for that party. At least none of the ones that I've seen. But come on, he wasn't exactly winning the war on a deadly disease like that, you know?? |
| Asterik 14.01.2006 05:53 |
Fred looks absolutely dreadful on that 1990 photo. Quite shocking even compared with The Miracle videos. |
| flash! 28068 14.01.2006 07:20 |
He looks awful in that 1990 picture... i hate to see him like that :( |
| Asterik 14.01.2006 10:09 |
Didn't The Mirror use that photo a day later to suggest he had AIDS. He looks dazed on it; horribly thin. |
| icefire 14.01.2006 12:44 |
mercury looked great there..one of his best looks ever..!!! |
| inmsthebest 14.01.2006 15:57 |
Asterik wrote: Didn't The Mirror use that photo a day later to suggest he had AIDS. He looks dazed on it; horribly thin.I think so, of course people seemed to notice the guy was unwell by then, evn if he kept denying that. |
| DrCari 14.01.2006 20:32 |
If Freddie had been prescribed corticosteroids (Cortisone, Prednisone, etc) as antiimflammatory medication for the HIV symptoms he would have gotten a chubby look to his face and abdomen while still remaining very thin in his extremities. The side effect of corticosteroids on appearance varies person to person and is affected by dosage and length of administration. |
| Rider32 15.01.2006 05:06 |
abe wrote: Even in gret Pretender in 87 he looks well, its only later on we see the progression of the disease taking this toll, this subject was seriously debated some months ago, and I remember Asterik raising some fine points about the great physical decline of Mercury over the year of 1989.In the great Pretender he does not look well or sick he looks "odd" with all the heavy makeup and the cover song was also a Hint, look at the lyrics and see |
| Asterik 15.01.2006 06:23 |
DrCari wrote: If Freddie had been prescribed corticosteroids (Cortisone, Prednisone, etc) as antiimflammatory medication for the HIV symptoms he would have gotten a chubby look to his face and abdomen while still remaining very thin in his extremities.QUOTE] |
| Asterik 15.01.2006 06:25 |
Rider32 wrote:In the great Pretender he does not look well or sick he looks "odd" with all the heavy makeup and the cover song was also a Hint, look at the lyrics and seeI think there is perhaps something wrong with his apearance in that video- but I maintain he did not know about it at that stage. |
| KensingtonLove (Dharankanawala) 16.01.2006 01:45 |
<font color=red>Flash! wrote: He looks awful in that 1990 picture... i hate to see him like that :(When I look at that picture it makes me so sad :( Hello from Rai;) |
| abe 16.01.2006 04:51 |
In regards to Mercury's appearance in 'The Great Pretender" he's odd looking appearance could be the result of the mostache being shaved off, and considering he had the mo for most of the time from 1980-87, this would give him a pale look around the upper mouth. Furthermore, we do see Mercury looking quite pale on the rest of the face, perhaps the lighting?? I don't know. But my point is, Mercury found out for certain in March-April 87 that he had the AIDS virus, after undergoing a serious of tests, read Hutton's 'Mercury and Me' book for more. SO, he would of had these tests in either late 86 or very early 87, and from reading different sources of info which do back each other up, Mercury was feeling unwell not long after the Magic Tour for the next few months, to me, this indicates Mercury would have been worried like hell that secretly something was not right. Also Mercury found out in November 86 that two former men he had slept with in the past had perished from AIDS 2 weeks apart from one another in that same month. Can you imagine how shit scared you would feel in hearing this?? At first you may go into denial saying to yourself "I will be ok" but it would eat at you and haunt you like shit!! SO this would have haunted him for months, then to find out for certain of he's fate 6 months later that he had the deadly incureable AIDS virus. I think this would explain Mercury's "odd" appearance in 'TGP' video. He had a lot of shit going on in he's head that he had to deal with, and he was trying he's damnest to put on a brave face for everyone around him and the rest of the world. It was the beginnings of the end for Mercury. |
| tia 16.01.2006 08:17 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:Id say that just looks like a bruise.He didnt have aids until 1987.Zebonka12 wrote: I'd have to say just dirty makeup! He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87.Look under Freddie's arms during Live AID |
| john bodega 16.01.2006 08:23 |
KS is something that happens in the later stages. If he was getting KS in '85, he'd have been dead by '88. |
| Winter Land Man 16.01.2006 14:02 |
Zebonka12 wrote: KS is something that happens in the later stages. If he was getting KS in '85, he'd have been dead by '88.The KS happens before the wasting stage, and the wasting stage can last for a few years (Freddie between 89 - late 91). KS can last for years as well. |
| Rider32 17.01.2006 14:22 |
abe wrote: In regards to Mercury's appearance in 'The Great Pretender" he's odd looking appearance could be the result of the mostache being shaved off, and considering he had the mo for most of the time from 1980-87, this would give him a pale look around the upper mouth. Furthermore, we do see Mercury looking quite pale on the rest of the face, perhaps the lighting?? I don't know. But my point is, Mercury found out for certain in March-April 87 that he had the AIDS virus, after undergoing a serious of tests, read Hutton's 'Mercury and Me' book for more. SO, he would of had these tests in either late 86 or very early 87, and from reading different sources of info which do back each other up, Mercury was feeling unwell not long after the Magic Tour for the next few months, to me, this indicates Mercury would have been worried like hell that secretly something was not right. Also Mercury found out in November 86 that two former men he had slept with in the past had perished from AIDS 2 weeks apart from one another in that same month. Can you imagine how shit scared you would feel in hearing this?? At first you may go into denial saying to yourself "I will be ok" but it would eat at you and haunt you like shit!! SO this would have haunted him for months, then to find out for certain of he's fate 6 months later that he had the deadly incureable AIDS virus. I think this would explain Mercury's "odd" appearance in 'TGP' video. He had a lot of shit going on in he's head that he had to deal with, and he was trying he's damnest to put on a brave face for everyone around him and the rest of the world. It was the beginnings of the end for Mercury.Ok Ok, whatever he still looks odd thought with the heavy makeup, being skinny and all. |