| Deaky_boy 10.12.2005 20:20 |
i am from canada and on the anniversery of freddies death i berley ever hear about people talk about the magnificent man. Every one takes Lennon seriously ( maybe because he is quite possibly the bighgest rock-n-roll star ever) but in off the point, what im saying is does the UK have like tributes to the man or not?? |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 10.12.2005 20:22 |
On telly yeah hours of Queen i dont know about tributes but in UK there is stuff for Freddie. |
| Roy Queen 10.12.2005 20:24 |
Freddie Mercury was, and is bigger than John Lennon... |
| DavidRFuller 10.12.2005 20:34 |
i'm gonna have to agree with Mr. Roy on that one. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 10.12.2005 20:43 |
Sheer Pressure wrote: i'm gonna have to agree with Mr. Roy on that one.Same no doubt about it! |
| Sherwood Forest 10.12.2005 20:45 |
agreed, dont get me wrong john lennon's great and all but Freddie is SOO much better |
| PinkInk 10.12.2005 20:57 |
I agree also |
| inu-liger 11.12.2005 01:23 |
Ditto |
| Lester Burnham 11.12.2005 01:25 |
Freddie Mercury was bigger than Jesus. |
| Dharankanawala 11.12.2005 01:39 |
Roy Queen wrote: Freddie Mercury was, and is bigger than John Lennon...Agreed |
| Dharankanawala 11.12.2005 01:42 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Freddie Mercury was bigger than Jesus.You cannot compare anyone to Jesus, you tart;) |
| Serry... 11.12.2005 03:48 |
Freddie was an eldest brother of God |
| deleted user 11.12.2005 04:03 |
totally agreed, although i do respect john lennon as an artist he wil never be bigger than our own Mr Freddie Mercury! |
| rove 11.12.2005 05:37 |
sorry to burst the bubble but John Lennon was a better musician than Freddie Mercury. |
| Penetration_Guru 11.12.2005 06:55 |
What do you expect? An evening of Queen material replacing regular broadcasting on all channels every Nov 24? Or is it just the fact that there has been a bit of coverage of the 25th anniversary of Lennon's death in the last week, and you've extrapolated that into "every year we get this Lennon stuff, what about Freddie?", failing to remember that there was no hoop=la on Lennon's 24th anniversary? As for the rest of you "Freddie/John was better" - grow up. They were different, Freddie would not have succeeded without John laying the groundwork as part of the Beatles, and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller... |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 11.12.2005 07:12 |
Roy Queen wrote: Freddie Mercury was, and is bigger than John Lennon...I agree but i think that's an opinion, sadly i think Lennon will be better remembered than Freddie. |
| GreatKingSam 11.12.2005 07:42 |
Do you ever get the feeling though, had Lennon not died, would he have been as big as he is now...? |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 11.12.2005 07:45 |
yeah, i do get that feeling...but then it's the same with anything isn't it? If Anne Frank hadn't of died then her diary wouldn't be as big..actually on second thoughts she probably wouldn't have published it but you know what i mean. |
| goodco 11.12.2005 08:41 |
I've always thought that John was berley more talented than Fredie |
| Mercuryworks 11.12.2005 12:15 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Well actually John was also cremated |
| Moon Godess 11.12.2005 12:30 |
In the UK I don't know. But Here in Malta they don't. Nobody speaks about him, and when I say "He's my Idol" They just laugh at me as if I were insane! As Deaky Boy said, even in here Lennon's dead is taken more seriously, and it ain't fair. Freddie was and still is the king's KING!!!!! Jeanelle-Marie Zammit J.M.Zammit (Serenity 15/moongodess15) |
| The Real Wizard 11.12.2005 14:36 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Fully agree. Freddie was a far better musician and performer, but there's no denying that Lennon was not only a far better lyricist than Freddie, but one of the great lyricists of all time.rove wrote: sorry to burst the bubble but John Lennon was a better musician than Freddie Mercury.Not true. He was a greater poet, but an inferior musician. |
| Penetration_Guru 11.12.2005 14:41 |
Mercuryworks wrote:Imagine how little Fred weighed when he died..bound to generate less ashes than the perfectly healthy (apart from the gunshot wound) Lennon.Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Well actually John was also cremated |
| The Real Wizard 11.12.2005 14:50 |
Penetration_Guru wrote:Okay, that just plain crossed the line. Do you even have a line, P_G?Mercuryworks wrote:Imagine how little Fred weighed when he died..bound to generate less ashes than the perfectly healthy (apart from the gunshot wound) Lennon.Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Well actually John was also cremated |
| inmsthebest 11.12.2005 14:50 |
Mercury was God compared to Lennon in terms of performance and composing skills and voice quality. Lennon was a poet and some songs of his are amazingly beautiful, but I find Freddie absolutely greater as a total artist. |
| gem27 11.12.2005 16:09 |
John Lennon wanted to change the world Freddie did not, he just wanted fun. each to their own I am a big Lennon fan but as a MUSICIAN Freddie was superior. RIP John and Freddie. There will never be a time when both of you are not thought of. |
| blueslippers 11.12.2005 16:46 |
Freddie is WAY better than john lennon! i also dont like john lennons nose but thats not why, freddie has a better voice too! John lennos voice isnt good |
| deleted user 11.12.2005 20:23 |
It is true Freddie is better than John Lennon. They ahd this pointless program on Chanel 4 about Lennon's murder which isn't much of a tribute, but for Freddie they're was nothing. Which I find disresepctful. They could have showed a special on a TV channel. They showed LAW and that's about it on VH1 but there should be more regontion about Freddie's death. He died of a serious illness that people could get and it could least be a lesson to people. Long live Freddie! |
| john bodega 12.12.2005 02:43 |
Penetration_Guru wrote:Yeah but Freddie's wedding ring would have added weight to it.Mercuryworks wrote:Imagine how little Fred weighed when he died..bound to generate less ashes than the perfectly healthy (apart from the gunshot wound) Lennon.Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Well actually John was also cremated |
| Dharankanawala 12.12.2005 03:57 |
rove wrote: sorry to burst the bubble but John Lennon was a better musician than Freddie Mercury.LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL That's a good one,dear;) But honestly,get your head out of the clouds:) |
| Dharankanawala 12.12.2005 04:01 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: What do you expect? An evening of Queen material replacing regular broadcasting on all channels every Nov 24? Or is it just the fact that there has been a bit of coverage of the 25th anniversary of Lennon's death in the last week, and you've extrapolated that into "every year we get this Lennon stuff, what about Freddie?", failing to remember that there was no hoop=la on Lennon's 24th anniversary? As for the rest of you "Freddie/John was better" - grow up. They were different, Freddie would not have succeeded without John laying the groundwork as part of the Beatles, and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...A bit of a hypocrite,aren't you my dear? |
| Dharankanawala 12.12.2005 04:08 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:You must not know very much about Freddie to say something so foolish,my dear:)<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:Fully agree. Freddie was a far better musician and performer, but there's no denying that Lennon was not only a far better lyricist than Freddie, but one of the great lyricists of all time.rove wrote: sorry to burst the bubble but John Lennon was a better musician than Freddie Mercury.Not true. He was a greater poet, but an inferior musician. |
| Dharankanawala 12.12.2005 04:12 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Penetration_Guru wrote:I do believe that Penetration G is far more preoccupied with getting penetrated than with creating intelligent posts to be quite honest:) Okay, that just plain crossed the line. Do you even have a line, P_G?Mercuryworks wrote:Imagine how little Fred weighed when he died..bound to generate less ashes than the perfectly healthy (apart from the gunshot wound) Lennon.Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Well actually John was also cremated |
| Dharankanawala 12.12.2005 04:13 |
inmsthebest wrote: Mercury was God compared to Lennon in terms of performance and composing skills and voice quality. Lennon was a poet and some songs of his are amazingly beautiful, but I find Freddie absolutely greater as a total artist.I agree:) |
| deleted user 12.12.2005 05:51 |
Freddie or Lennon... They're both Gods!!!! |
| dugg 12.12.2005 07:55 |
Sheer Pressure wrote: i'm gonna have to agree with Mr. Roy on that one.get real kids |
| dugg 12.12.2005 08:04 |
got cut off there. get real kids. john lennon smaller than freddie? absolutely no way. and please don't start spouting weeks on chart nonsense. the beatles are the biggest and greatest band of all time end of discussion of course you are allowed to prefer freddie if you so wish. after all some people prefer cliff richard to the beatles |
| @ndy38 12.12.2005 08:16 |
No people don't judge it on the number of weeks spent on the chart, they judge it by the music they both produced, and that's why they came to the conclusion that Freddie Mercury is a better musician than John Lennon. Of course you are allowed to prefer John Lennon if you so wish.... |
| dugg 12.12.2005 08:29 |
<font color=black>Andy<font color=red>38 wrote: No people don't judge it on the number of weeks spent on the chart, they judge it by the music they both produced, and that's why they came to the conclusion that Freddie Mercury is a better musician than John Lennon. Of course you are allowed to prefer John Lennon if you so wish....i didn't say i preferred john lennon, i like both of them for different things. i probably prefer lennon the man to mercury the man though. i will concede that freddie mercury was a technically better pianist than john lennon. however, as a songwriter lennon was far more influential than freddie. as a world icon, john lennon was far more influential than freddie. as a band, the beatles were far more influential that queen. |
| Lester Burnham 12.12.2005 08:32 |
Yeah man like this one friend of mine actually he's not a friend friend but a friend of a friend if you know what i mean anyway he once said that freddie once took like this huge monster shit and it came out gold and freddie looked at it and went oh my god i just laid a golden egg but he didn't know that whatever he had eaten had too much yellow dye in it but anyway he like thought he was hot shit no pun intended and he actually called up john lennon and said hey i just laid this golden shit beat that you walrus and john said oh wow hey listen i'm sorry i didn't mean to step on your toes there but you clearly are better than me in any way shape and form that anyone can possibly imagine so i abdicate my throne to you and i hope that everyone will plainly see that i am completely inferior to you and freddie was so inspired by this incident that he went on to write one of his best ever songs of all time called body language. |
| Music Man 12.12.2005 09:08 |
To be honest, I think Brian May is a much better lyricist than John Lennon ever was. |
| @ndy38 12.12.2005 10:04 |
And i thought Roger Taylor is better at writing lyrics than Brian May..... So many different opinions.....so little time... |
| HyP 12.12.2005 12:00 |
Roy Queen wrote: Freddie Mercury was, and is bigger than John Lennon...I know this is an opinion forum, and I appreciate everybody's kind thoughts for Freddie. Definitely a top 5, but Lennon? PERFORMANCE: I think it's more like Elvis, Lennon/Beatles, FM/Queen, and I am totally Queen biased. The Beatles shook a whole Generation. SONGWRITING: Lennon, Dylan, Mercury/May Then again, I could be slightly mad. |
| Penetration_Guru 12.12.2005 17:34 |
Can Dhramwalakalabanaramabamalamadingdong please tell me what was hypocritical about my post? As for my "line" - it's just drawn in a different plane. |
| great king rat 1138 13.12.2005 03:09 |
Barry © wrote: Freddie was 5ft 9", how tall was Jesus? ;-)About 4ft 3" - why do you think he was persecuted so much? |
| inmsthebest 13.12.2005 11:34 |
Some say Lennon wanted to change the world, well that's true but only to one point. He was also rather selfish and not quite a peaceful person himself. Have you read John lennon's secret life by A. Einstein(translation for "Las vidas secretas de J. Lennon")?. Well, I read it while being an absolute beatlemaniac and I tell you I was profoundly dissapointed. Not only about the beatles, but about Lennon. They also made wild parties, like freddie, true that they were not gay,but had as much sex as they could with as many as they could(just like freddie, only that they kept that well hid so nobody knew). And it also tells stories about the john lennon's temper, he was quite agresive, he even burnt a journalist's hand when he suggested Lennon to be gay as a joke during one party. (Actually, he had sex with his manager Brian for several years). So yes, as a lyricist and apparently as a public man he wanted to change the world, but in his private life, no better role model than freddie. Sorry. |
| gihona 13.12.2005 11:48 |
not only that Fred was a better musician than Lennon - Mccartney was a better musician than John as well... with all due respect - Lennon is and was more influential than Fred/Queen - but i think he (john) is slightly overrated.... |
| The Real Wizard 14.12.2005 00:15 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Or is it just the fact that there has been a bit of coverage of the 25th anniversary of Lennon's death in the last week, and you've extrapolated that into "every year we get this Lennon stuff, what about Freddie?", failing to remember that there was no hoop=la on Lennon's 24th anniversary?Yeah, I gotta agree with your sentiment here... Freddie did not influence music and popular culture like Lennon did. Honestly, I can't think of any other musicians than The Beatles that can be played on the radio for days at a time, intertwined with interviews, tributes, etc... and most people never tire of it. Music Man wrote: To be honest, I think Brian May is a much better lyricist than John Lennon ever was.Interesting challenge there! They were completely different writers, but Brian does have some fantastic lyrics. I'd need to listen to some more obscure Lennon stuff before agreeing, because much of May's best lyrics are in his obscure songs. inmsthebest wrote: Some say Lennon wanted to change the world, well that's true but only to one point. He was also rather selfish and not quite a peaceful person himself. Have you read John lennon's secret life by A. Einstein(translation for "Las vidas secretas de J. Lennon")?. Well, I read it while being an absolute beatlemaniac and I tell you I was profoundly dissapointed. Not only about the beatles, but about Lennon. They also made wild parties, like freddie, true that they were not gay,but had as much sex as they could with as many as they could(just like freddie, only that they kept that well hid so nobody knew). And it also tells stories about the john lennon's temper, he was quite agresive, he even burnt a journalist's hand when he suggested Lennon to be gay as a joke during one party. (Actually, he had sex with his manager Brian for several years). So yes, as a lyricist and apparently as a public man he wanted to change the world, but in his private life, no better role model than freddie. Sorry.Many Beatles books are to be taken with a grain of salt, as they are unofficial, and often written by people who want to make a good buck. Paul McCartney only trusts one or two Beatles biographers. Personal lives aside, even if Lennon's was as "nasty" as Freddie, Freddie was in no way even remotely close to the incredible person Lennon was. Lennon advocated peace in so many ways. BoRhap is a musical masterpiece, but Imagine is a lyrical masterpiece. Mercury wrote nothing like this, because these kinds of ideas were not things he believed in. He was far too materialistic and stuck in his own little world to care about the rest of it. The majority of FM's songs from 1975 onward are love songs! The only truly insightful thing FM ever wrote was Is This The World We Created, but many of the lyrics were probably Brian's. I just can't believe how Freddie has become a role model for so many teenagers when he was really such a selfish person most the time. Lennon was by far the overall better person, and there are backing catalogues and interviews to prove it. |
| deleted user 14.12.2005 03:03 |
Yea of course they do tributes for Freddie.Fans go to his house and light up a candle I did.Also on vh1 play the whole concert of wembley and greatest hits top 20.And on the news,just to show respect.:P thx xxxx |
| gem27 14.12.2005 07:20 |
Lennon a better person! Is that why he didnt see his son Julian for 3 years is it! Lennon also took as many if not more drugs than Freddie did, Hardly Mother Theresa now come on get a grip there son. |
| Fenderek 14.12.2005 07:26 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Oh man, I still can't stop laughing...! |
| Fenderek 14.12.2005 07:29 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Yeah man like this one friend of mine actually he's not a friend friend but a friend of a friend if you know what i mean anyway he once said that freddie once took like this huge monster shit and it came out gold and freddie looked at it and went oh my god i just laid a golden egg but he didn't know that whatever he had eaten had too much yellow dye in it but anyway he like thought he was hot shit no pun intended and he actually called up john lennon and said hey i just laid this golden shit beat that you walrus and john said oh wow hey listen i'm sorry i didn't mean to step on your toes there but you clearly are better than me in any way shape and form that anyone can possibly imagine so i abdicate my throne to you and i hope that everyone will plainly see that i am completely inferior to you and freddie was so inspired by this incident that he went on to write one of his best ever songs of all time called body language.And now I laughed even harder... |
| goodco 14.12.2005 08:27 |
gottaliketotallyagreewithLestertoo |
| inmsthebest 24.12.2005 10:15 |
I'm sorry, I don't agree. As I alreday said he was a great lyricist, but nothing else. He just was as selfish as Freddie, only that publicly he gave the impression of being a great man. But it was only apparently, he built an image and we all believed that.inmsthebest wrote: Some say Lennon wanted to change the world, well that's true but only to one point. He was also rather selfish and not quite a peaceful person himself. Have you read John lennon's secret life by A. Einstein(translation for "Las vidas secretas de J. Lennon")?. Well, I read it while being an absolute beatlemaniac and I tell you I was profoundly dissapointed. Not only about the beatles, but about Lennon. They also made wild parties, like freddie, true that they were not gay,but had as much sex as they could with as many as they could(just like freddie, only that they kept that well hid so nobody knew). And it also tells stories about the john lennon's temper, he was quite agresive, he even burnt a journalist's hand when he suggested Lennon to be gay as a joke during one party. (Actually, he had sex with his manager Brian for several years). So yes, as a lyricist and apparently as a public man he wanted to change the world, but in his private life, no better role model than freddie. Sorry.Many Beatles books are to be taken with a grain of salt, as they are unofficial, and often written by people who want to make a good buck. Paul McCartney only trusts one or two Beatles biographers. Personal lives aside, even if Lennon's was as "nasty" as Freddie, Freddie was in no way even remotely close to the incredible person Lennon was. Lennon advocated peace in so many ways. BoRhap is a musical masterpiece, but Imagine is a lyrical masterpiece. Mercury wrote nothing like this, because these kinds of ideas were not things he believed in. He was far too materialistic and stuck in his own little world to care about the rest of it. The majority of FM's songs from 1975 onward are love songs! The only truly insightful thing FM ever wrote was Is This The World We Created, but many of the lyrics were probably Brian's. I just can't believe how Freddie has become a role model for so many teenagers when he was really such a selfish person most the time. Lennon was by far the overall better person, and there are backing catalogues and interviews to prove it. I prefer the true, even if it's not as lovely as a good lie. |
| inmsthebest 24.12.2005 10:16 |
The quote above was for Sir GH. |
| The Real Wizard 25.12.2005 21:28 |
inmsthebest wrote: I'm sorry, I don't agree. As I alreday said he was a great lyricist, but nothing else. He just was as selfish as Freddie, only that publicly he gave the impression of being a great man. But it was only apparently, he built an image and we all believed that. I prefer the true, even if it's not as lovely as a good lie.And once again, I must note that you have chosen to believe the words of an independent book about the Beatles, which was not authorized by the Beatles. How do you know those stories about John Lennon are true? Why haven't they been documented elsewhere? And if this book was so groundbreaking, why wasn't it in the headlines, like Bob Spitz's new book? |
| as it began 28.12.2005 00:08 |
I really don't think it is fair to call freddie "too stuck in his own world to care". He probably did care, but he just wasn't as vocal about it as john lennon was. I mean remember, john's comments did get him into a bit of trouble at times. I like john's songs and everything but whenever I hear a song like Imagine I feel depressed, whenever I hear a song like, say, I don't know Don't Stop Me Now i feel happy and unplifted. The way I see it john tried to open everyon's eyes to all the shit happening in the world and freddie brought everyone away from it. I think it's great that despite all the talent he had he never really took himself as a star seriously and I think that is a great way to live. I think that Freddie helped me in many ways more than John when times where tough for me because his unique songs took me to another place instead of reminding me of all the troubles in the world, That's what I think music should be like : it should take you away from all of your troubles for a while. Eh sorry for rambling lol. |
| kagezan1313 29.12.2005 12:40 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Hmm, but did they bother taking the four bullets out of Lennon? If not, those would have outweighed Freddie's ring. On the other hand, Freddie did have 4 more teeth that the average dead Beatle, so it's definitely a good question...Penetration_Guru wrote:Yeah but Freddie's wedding ring would have added weight to it.Mercuryworks wrote:Imagine how little Fred weighed when he died..bound to generate less ashes than the perfectly healthy (apart from the gunshot wound) Lennon.Penetration_Guru wrote: and since Freddie was cremated, he is now a lot smaller...Well actually John was also cremated |
| Hooligan's Holiday 07.01.2006 11:27 |
In the States, all we get are those fucking annoying Thanksgiving specials. I don't think the people who have power over the TV networks even know who Freddie is, and I highly dought they even care. |
| deleted user 07.01.2006 12:31 |
Lennon was a better lyricist, talking bout lyrics I think he bob Dylan and Roger Waters are the best lyricists of all time. But Freddie was a better singer, perfromer and mucisian than our dear Lennon. But I can't denie Lennon was the most talented Beatle and that he is a Rock legend. |
| FreeSpirit328 07.01.2006 18:33 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:rove wrote: sorry to burst the bubble but John Lennon was a better musician than Freddie Mercury.Not true. He was a greater poet, but an inferior I agree...John Lennon didn't have a great singing voice, he could not play an instrument...his lyrics were great though, and so were Freddie's.musician. |
| FreeSpirit328 07.01.2006 18:38 |
inmsthebest wrote: Mercury was God compared to Lennon in terms of performance and composing skills and voice quality. Lennon was a poet and some songs of his are amazingly beautiful, but I find Freddie Not to mention Freddie was able to make the meanings of his songs much deeper. If you are able to understand astrology and can see the meanings behind a lot of the lyrics, hhhis songs have spiritual meaning.absolutely greater as a total artist. |