Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 27.11.2005 19:51 |
As much as I used to like Brian May, his egomanical tendencies are driving me up the wall! Interestingly, I have never found Roger and John to be anything but humble. Perhaps the most egregious illustration of Brian May's out-of-control ego can be seen at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, where he stacked the concert up with his own compositions, many of which were not even hits! Since the purpose of the concert was to honor Freddie Mercury, should it not have focused upon Freddie Mercury's songs? I also found it appalling that Brian May would use the event in order to promote the single for his upcoming album. More amusingly, he actually goes so far as to declare that this particular self-promoting act represented the best thing that he could do to honor Freddie! Moreover, Brian May's website diary and soapbox represent some of the most despicable displays of narcissism that one could possibly encounter on the internet. I mean, the posts are utterly boring and all he does it talk on and on and on about inconsequential events concerning himself. It is as though he thinks that people are so very interested in these uninteresting, minute details. Maybe a few dozen people in the world really are interested in him at that level, but for the average person entering the site, it is almost embarrassing. People on this site most recently mentioned the fact that Brian May spoke for the longest period of time of any presenter during some award ceremony held in the UK a couple of days ago. Here again is further evidence of what I am talking about. Even though he hasn't done much of anything during the last 15 years, he nonetheless assumes that everyone in the audience is so interested in hearing him talk on and on and on. As usual, Brian May talked on and on and on about himself during an interview a few years ago with "Classic Rock" magazine and do you know what they did? They put Freddie Mercury on the cover! You'd think that he would have learned his lesson! |
drummergirl85 27.11.2005 20:13 |
Well...I think it's a good thing he talked for a long time at the UK Hall of Fame...that shows he really cares about the band he was inducting and that he put a lot of work into it and thought. I was actually shocked at the others who were giving speeches as they didnt say much at all. If you have ever seen the American Hall of Fame most people who induct band have looong speeches...so it;s not a surprise. I don;t know what that has to do with your argument that he is egotistical because he didn't talk about himself in that speech, it was the story of Black Sabbath and how they influenced many musicians. Also, the diary is just like all the other millions of people in this world that have online blogs. What are they for? who knows. But I am so in aww that he wpould actually take the time out to become personal with his fans and talk to us normally as a human being. Yes, he talks about things that have happened to him, events, his ideas....but thats what we do too. I have a blog....I dont write one cause I am egotistival or care if anyone reads that damn stupid thing, but...its where you sahre your ideas, vent whats bothering you or share joy and pain with others. Also, why does it b other yopu soo much then...if you don't supposesdly like him "at that level" If you dont care you wouldn't get so angry about it. What's the big deal...just leave it. |
Sherwood Forest 27.11.2005 20:21 |
Yea i agree with what your saying (drummergirl) cuz a lot of people have blogs and they dont talk about the past or anything they talk about whats going on now, in their lives not what happened. And thats why its called BrianMay.com, i think its more than i could ever ask for out of my personal hero to write about stuff like that and do it for the fans, i think its great and he puts up his email so we can tell him our feelings on this stuff. I think its great, i dont think an egomaniac would do that, put up an email address saying email me with ur thoughts feelings, and any other stuff you have not only about him, but about Queen and stuff like that think about. And as for the Tribute concert they did songs that best fit the artists voice and liking. I think youjust noticed a pattern, i dont think it was supposed to be the way ur thinking of it. I think you thinking too hard about it, it Brian know hes famous and he keeps his fans happy, and someone who is egotistical would not tell fans that he doesnt want to sign autographs, he would rather talk to people person to person, not famous person to fan. and when u say hes egotistical it was about interveiws where they are expecting him to talk about himself or the band, and sometimes it easy to compare something to urself to make outside people understand. i know that was confusing but think about it a bit youll get what im saying |
drummergirl85 27.11.2005 20:25 |
Yeah I agree witht he concert thing..... I don't think there was some conspiracy with it lol. Some "secret plan" Brian had. |
Sherwood Forest 27.11.2005 20:57 |
hahaha yea "hmmmm i think im going to do mostly my songs and by doing that i shall brainwash all the fans to buy my record!" such a bad boy brian |
The Real Wizard 27.11.2005 21:07 |
bitch4freddie wrote: As much as I used to like Brian May, his egomanical tendencies are driving me up the wall! Interestingly, I have never found Roger and John to be anything but humble. Perhaps the most egregious illustration of Brian May's out-of-control ego can be seen at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, where he stacked the concert up with his own compositions, many of which were not even hits! Since the purpose of the concert was to honor Freddie Mercury, should it not have focused upon Freddie Mercury's songs? I also found it appalling that Brian May would use the event in order to promote the single for his upcoming album. More amusingly, he actually goes so far as to declare that this particular self-promoting act represented the best thing that he could do to honor Freddie! Moreover, Brian May's website diary and soapbox represent some of the most despicable displays of narcissism that one could possibly encounter on the internet. I mean, the posts are utterly boring and all he does it talk on and on and on about inconsequential events concerning himself. It is as though he thinks that people are so very interested in these uninteresting, minute details. Maybe a few dozen people in the world really are interested in him at that level, but for the average person entering the site, it is almost embarrassing. People on this site most recently mentioned the fact that Brian May spoke for the longest period of time of any presenter during some award ceremony held in the UK a couple of days ago. Here again is further evidence of what I am talking about. Even though he hasn't done much of anything during the last 15 years, he nonetheless assumes that everyone in the audience is so interested in hearing him talk on and on and on. As usual, Brian May talked on and on and on about himself during an interview a few years ago with "Classic Rock" magazine and do you know what they did? They put Freddie Mercury on the cover! You'd think that he would have learned his lesson!Brian is much more humble than Roger is. Roger always says what he really thinks, whereas Brian has always been the diplomatic one. The reason why there weren't so many Freddie tracks at the FM tribute concert and on the Q+PR tour is quite simply because it's incredibly difficult to sing many songs like Freddie did! Songs were picked so that others could lend their own style to them. Also, I think it's well-established that the majority of Queen's most technical material was written by Freddie, and that goes for the vocal lines as well. I think far more than a dozen people read Brian's soapbox. I think you're underestimating how much Brian is respected around the world. Thousands of people check that page every day to see if their favourite guitarist has something else to say. I'm one of them, and I know several others who do the same. Surely we can't be half of them. What better song could Brian have offered at the FM tribute than TMLWKY? Sail Away Sweet Sister? Come on, be realistic. He could not have done better. If you're going to pick a fight, the best place to do it probably won't be at a Queen forum where assumingly the majority of people love Brian May. Almost every word of your post was opinion and nothing more. |
Ray D O'Gaga 27.11.2005 21:10 |
Ray D. O'Gaga: Frito-maniac |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 27.11.2005 21:14 |
It is highly likely that Brian May deliberately tried to influence the playlist at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. He also seemed to pick artists who had a lot in common with him rather than artists who shared Freddie's style. At the end of the day, it is very sad to say that the concert appeared to be more of a Brian May Appreciation Day than a Freddie Mercruy Tribute Concert. Had Brian May not been the huge egomaniac that we all know him to be, he probably would have stopped and said, "Wait a minute. Since this is Freddie's concert, maybe we should be trying to emphasize his songs over mine." Interestingly, the same thing happened at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, where they opened with "We Will Rock You" and closed with "Tie Your Mother Down". When Freddie was around, I'm sure that he never would have allowed Brian to get away with this. Unfortunately, since Brian May does not seem to have any kind of strong conscience, he does not feel the need to honor those things that Freddie might have wanted. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 27.11.2005 21:25 |
To Sir GH, You make a lot of really good points, but it still hurts me to see how Brian behaves toward Freddie. You also suggest that Roger has a big ego, but I have not really seen that. You are right that Brian has thousands of fans around the world. But does that mean that he has to make a website where he documents every single little aspect of his life, down to what cat food his cat eats? I mean, even the most dedicated Brian May fans must get kind of bored by this. |
Lester Burnham 27.11.2005 21:30 |
I must've missed his post on what his cat eats. Care to reveal that information? |
The Real Wizard 27.11.2005 21:45 |
bitch4freddie wrote: To Sir GH, You make a lot of really good points, but it still hurts me to see how Brian behaves toward Freddie. You also suggest that Roger has a big ego, but I have not really seen that. You are right that Brian has thousands of fans around the world. But does that mean that he has to make a website where he documents every single little aspect of his life, down to what cat food his cat eats? I mean, even the most dedicated Brian May fans must get kind of bored by this.Then people can choose not to visit his site! Some people appreciate the fact that Brian goes out of his way to express himself publically as he does, which shows his humanity. His post a couple weeks back called "a second in the life of a guitarist" totally connected with me. In fact, I think it was one of most beautiful things I've ever read. I am a performing musician, and it was beyond amazing to learn that while on stage, the exact same things go through Brian's head as my own. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 27.11.2005 22:11 |
To Sir GH, You might be correct about the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert when you say that Freddie Mercury's songs are generally harder to sing than "I Want It All" or "Tie Your Mother Down". I never really thought about that and you do have a point there. I just wonder what the point of the concert was then. Regardless, it didn't seem like its purpose was to honor Freddie Mercury. I personally found it really depressing. Maybe Brian's soapbox does have some good advice in it for guitarists. It just seems like there is way too much of him talking about himself. If you just look at the last month, there are like 50 pages of writing about every little thing that he has done, including various photos of him sitting around with young looking Japanese girls. What is the point of this? I just cannot possibly imagine someone like John Deacon or even Freddie Mercury making a webpage like this. "Who the fuck cares?", I could image them saying. |
teleman 27.11.2005 22:14 |
bitch4freddie wrote: As much as I used to like Brian May, his egomanical tendencies are driving me up the wall! ...Another boring wind up. |
Crazy LittleThing 27.11.2005 22:26 |
bitch4freddie wrote: . . . He also seemed to pick artists who had a lot in common with him rather than artists who shared Freddie's style.Yeah, Like Liza. |
The Real Wizard 27.11.2005 22:45 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote:Haha, yes! And let's not forget Elton John. He and Roger were always the best of friends! Seriously, I think we need to remember that Freddie didn't have a lot of friends, so it's pretty low to criticize Brian and the rest for "not picking many of Freddie's friends".bitch4freddie wrote: . . . He also seemed to pick artists who had a lot in common with him rather than artists who shared Freddie's style.Yeah, Like Liza. bitch4freddie wrote: I personally found it really depressing.Well, I wouldn't exactly expect one to be elated while watching the event which closed the book on Queen's live career. Maybe Brian's soapbox does have some good advice in it for guitarists. It just seems like there is way too much of him talking about himself. If you just look at the last month, there are like 50 pages of writing about every little thing that he has done, including various photos of him sitting around with young looking Japanese girls. What is the point of this? I just cannot possibly imagine someone like John Deacon or even Freddie Mercury making a webpage like this. "Who the fuck cares?", I could image them saying.Again, if you don't like it, then don't visit. Spend your time doing something else rather than complaining about it. Clearly there are many people who are interested, and if you're not one of them, then you're entitled to your opinion. Stop wasting your time on negative emotions. Get off the computer and do something useful! |
KingMercury 27.11.2005 22:51 |
i dont agree with this post i mean, maybe you're right, maybe bri is a little bit egomaniac, but...tell me, is there any rockstar who isn't egomaniac?? brian may is (IMO) one of the best guitarrist in the world, so he has grounds to be egomaniac if you dont like him or his website, it's easy: dont go there! and i dont think brian organized the freddie merury tribute to promote his album and the guests who sang or play there, arent only brian pals frddie loved liza minelli elton john was one of freddie's best friends i think freddie were very happy with those guests and believe me, i'm tired of all these kind of topics: "brian is destroying queen legacy", "brian is egomaniac", "the queen+PR tour is pure crap" brian and roger are keeping the queen spirit alive maybe you colud not agree, but that's not enough to say that is a piece of shit and when you have a personal website, you write your own stuff in brianmay.com, there are 4 sections: what's new, brian's soabox, brian may news, and queen news brianmay.com is not all about him and i think brian may is not only a good guitarrist, i think he's a good person too |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 27.11.2005 23:52 |
To Sir GH, You say that Freddie did not have any friends. Is this true? I'm not offended at all, I just wonder if you have heard that Freddie was also really hard to get along with. I had always just thought that he didn't like hanging out with famous people other than Elton John, but maybe he angered a lot of people. Does anyone know? I have never heard anything suggesting that he was particularly nasty, but maybe people just don't want to come out and say it. |
Dharankanawala 28.11.2005 05:09 |
Freddie certainly had his moments, but he was a genuine, loving person. Just like he said, "I have a hard shell, but inside I have a much softer side-that melts like butter." |
April Lady05 28.11.2005 05:49 |
Now listen you low-down Brian-hater (topic starter)! I have to tell you that I'm an anti-rock fan. I mean I'm not really keen on rock music, ya know. I prefer e.g. soul, R&B, jazz and adult pop instead. Despite my musical taste, Brian May is the Musician whom I truly respect and can't stop admiring his talent, his compositions, his unique guitar playing style, his funny verses (e.g. "when a red hot man meets a white hot lady..."), etc.! I have to admit that sometimes I had a similar feeling to yours: I thought Brian was kinda overdominating the shows. My other favourite guitarist is Dave Stewart (from Eurythmics) who is also a genius I think, however, he has a "smoother" style and he's the best at acoustic songs. Compared to Dave's approach to music, Brian sounds harsher, and I can feel the "here, there and everywhere" effect. Is that bad, anyway? I don't think so, not at all! No doubt Freddie Mercury was the best singer and the most talented musician (pianist) and showman of the 20th century. It's rather unfair he had to die! BUT if Brian May had been any nother band's guitarist (not Queen), I would have been a fan of that band - I'm sure! :) I also like his solo works. He - as a civil person - is very intelligent and open-minded for different kinds of (important) issues in the world, too. So I can only praise him!!! |
Serry... 28.11.2005 07:12 |
Funny thing in such discussions is that someone says "Brian May is not very good as a man, he has terrible character, blah-blah-blah" and then someone replies with "Shut up, he's a great guitarist!". This is why such topics are useless. We're talking on different languages... |
tupincs 28.11.2005 09:24 |
The only problem with Brian is that he takes himself a way too serious. Maybe his sense of humour is low when it comes to him. What I don't like on his website is when he writes about journos in a rude way. I expect more dignity from him, especially because he's probably more intelligent than those people. |
That guy who digs energy domes 28.11.2005 11:22 |
uhh...wow... |
Brian_Mays_Wig 28.11.2005 11:36 |
I must admit, I share a lot of the same feelings as the topic starter. The tribute concert, completely. But the thing that pisses me off the most is Brians constant whinging, "I hate smoking blah blah blah"....but he'll stand up on stage and jam with Slash with a ciggy directly under his nose for 5 mins a song......."I cant stand having a camera phone shoved in my face".........well if you werent selling out, if you didnt attend every single function not worth attending and If you werent one of the most recognisable blokes on the planet with a high profile wife then maybe it wouldnt happen. The trouble with Brian May is that he contradicts himself way way too much. And the embarrasing thing is that he thinks that everything he touches turns to gold when in fact, its pretty awful. Ie, ROTC, ANATO DVD, Air Guitar ect ect ect.... I could go on...... Thats my Brian May style rambling over. |
deleted user 28.11.2005 11:45 |
i dont thhink he has a big ego, he does tend to talk a lot however he seems too timid to have an exceptionally large ego, he just seems like that type of really nice guy you know what i mean? his ego has grown over the years he has come out of his sheel a bit in recent years, as when he was on stage etc. in the early 70's when he just looked sort of... scared in a way, but he has developed a bigger head over the years!! |
i'm going slight mad... 28.11.2005 13:33 |
you know, i don't think he likes that slash smokes so much, but when it cmes to friends, you don't make as much a fuss over it. i myself think that smoking is disgusting, but one of my best friends also happens to be a massive smoker that has tried and failed to kick the habit. however, i do not refuse to hang out with him when he's smoking. however, i do agree that he didn't really think about the hypocritical message he was sending out. as for the topic subject in general, i do not agree that brian's ego is bigger than most. he does have high morals and tends to look down, i believe, on others who do not share them, but other than that, i don't think so. |
teleman 28.11.2005 13:39 |
How would you know if Brian is ergonomic? Have you compared him to an ergonomic mouse? Is he a safe and comfortable appliance? LOL |
MadeInMadhouse 28.11.2005 14:00 |
this is link Logically it all about Brian May |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 28.11.2005 16:32 |
To Tupincs, You make a really good point when you say that Brian May takes himself way too seriously. That really is the problem with him. Other people have a sense of humor about things, but Brian is so damn serious, especially when he talks about himself, as though every little thing that he does is so important or requires great contemplation. In fact, he does not seem to possess any sense of humor at all. He also gets angry over little things that other people could easily brush off. For instance, at one point he got all pissy about some dude who wrote in a Queen chat room that "There is no Queen without Freddie Mercury". He got on his soapbox and actually started whining about this! Maybe he expects the people on his website to comfort him and tell him, "No Brian, actually, Freddie is not that important are you really are the star of Queen". It is as though Brian May cannot handle anything that might damage his huge ego. |
hoopymrprosser 28.11.2005 17:57 |
At the end of the day, the band was founded by Brian and Roger. Freddie and John came along later. If Roger wants to remain silent and Brian wants to voice his opinions then that is their right. It is my right to whinge about bloody Americans who can't spell Honour, Humour, Colour, etc etc. And it is your right to an opinion too. The bands at the tribute concert were invited more because of what Freddie had done to inspire them, than they had to entertain Freddie. His 2 favourite actresses appeared, one to sing and one to talk to us. His friends were there too, 3 on stage playing the songs, and 72,500 of us in Wembley stadium. And Freddie must have been smiling at us all, as that was one of the nicest days of the year. It was also a fundraising event. How many people worldwide would have watched a live TV performance of Montserrat Caballe and the royal ballet. No the band filled the bill with the biggest bands of the time, people who could work an audience that size. They gave smaller acts a chance too, the London Gospel choir, Liza Stansfield, Extreme, and George Michael (none of whom had played to any crowd that big) They also brought The Who back, and Mick Ronson, and Tony Iomi, and Robert Plant, all of whom Freddie and the band used to listen to as they strived for fame of their own. The songs picked at the concert were a mix of the best stadium songs they had, and had you been there, you would have seen the Freddie music videos that appeared as the bands were changing, that is where Freddie's difficult songs appeared, sung by him as only he could sing them. |
The Real Wizard 28.11.2005 18:40 |
bitch4freddie wrote: To Sir GH, You say that Freddie did not have any friends. Is this true? I'm not offended at all, I just wonder if you have heard that Freddie was also really hard to get along with. I had always just thought that he didn't like hanging out with famous people other than Elton John, but maybe he angered a lot of people. Does anyone know? I have never heard anything suggesting that he was particularly nasty, but maybe people just don't want to come out and say it.Freddie was simply a very reserved person, and opened himself up to very few people. He once said his only true friend was Mary Austin, but I think he was pretty close to Elton, and in his later years Barbara Valentin and Montserrat Caballe at least. |
DreaminQueen 28.11.2005 18:55 |
Ok, dear poster: I dont wanna make it seem like u were wrong for posting this, but it wasnt the best idea. I mean its almost like going into a glass house and throwing a stone to see if itll simply ricochet back to u without shattering anything in some way. I mean its brian mays site. And with blogs and journals, they're meant to be boring and document things, i have an online journal, and sometimes i go back and read it and im bored by it, but its not like anyone is holding a gun to your head to read it. I mean a journal is meant to document daily life. And its up to u what u want to put in it or not, thats the beauty of freedom of speech and having your own journal. And with everything hes been through in his life, perhaps its theraputic for him, even if it is very miniscual things like what he had for breakfast. Plus if he talks about it first, it gives the media less fire than they would have over certain things. And like everyone else said, u dont have to read it. But i dont think hes an ego maniac, and the Freddie Mercury Tribute thing... It was meant to recognize Freddie, and would u want to watch someone butcher one of Freddies songs if it couldnt be taylored to their style? i wouldnt have, and i thought one of the best performances was George Michael's redition of Somebody to Love, now if that wasnt a great sendoff for Freddie, i have no idea what would be. As for Freddie "not having friends" he did. But he was a very private man, and theres nothing wrong with that. I can totally relate to that. And many of the people there were influenced by them, and/or were friends of the band in some way shape or form. Or had crossed paths w/ them at some point. So i really dont know what you were getting at with the egomaniac thing. The entire band decided on the Tritbute, its Brians journal, u dont have to read it, and if anyone finds it boring, they dont have to read it or even go on the site. Ok im rambling... but still... this is very depressing... I love Brian... And Queen... U may not agree with him, fine, everyones entitled to an opinion, but theres no reason to get so upset oversomething u can simply not read. These kinds of things really upset me. I dont see how he can be an egomaniac... |
teleman 28.11.2005 19:22 |
DreaminQueen and everyone else If it isn't obvious this is a wind up designed, by bitch4freddie(aka Zarathustra II), to get attention. Don't take it too seriously. When the thread is dying bitch4freddie(aka Zarathustra II)will post a reply to keep it going. Brian May: Egomaniac or Ergonomic |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 28.11.2005 19:29 |
Another problem that I have with Brian May is the way that he is constantly hobnobbing about at various functions doing this or that thing. He also does way too many interviews with guitar magazines and seems to be endlessly pushing himself in the front of camaras, etc. On the other hand, there was this mystique involved with great stars like Freddie Mercury. I even feel like there is a kind of mystique about John Deacon. It is as though John is satisfied with what he has done in life and has no additional desire to seek further approval from the world. Because Freddie Mercury did so few interviews and attended so few events, there would be this great buzz in the air when he would appear somewhere, almost as though sort of divine being had just entered the room. But since Brian May is so over-exposed, that I don't think that people even notice him anymore. Someone mentioned how Ozzy looked like he was yawning during one of Brian's speeches. In many ways, it really does ruin the Queen legacy to see Brian out there slutting himself to the camara all of the time. |
DreaminQueen 28.11.2005 21:20 |
Hes doing promotion for a tour... Its what people do, they promote things... Its apart of the bizz... Im so sick of hearing how hes ruining the legacy of Queen... he is not... hes helping it live on by bringing it as best he can back to some life because they've been on hiatus for so many years... and yea its not the same since Fred died, but hes dead... and you cannot change that... So lets stop making him sound like an evil man... Hes a sweetheart doing his job... How would someone feel if someone told u that the way u were doing ure job u were egotistical?? Give the guy a break... I LOVE BRIAN! |
DreaminQueen 28.11.2005 21:23 |
teleman wrote: DreaminQueen and everyone else If it isn't obvious this is a wind up designed, by bitch4freddie(aka Zarathustra II), to get attention. Don't take it too seriously. When the thread is dying bitch4freddie(aka Zarathustra II)will post a reply to keep it going. Brian May: Egomaniac or ErgonomicTrue Teleman, true... i suppose we should stop feeding the frenzy... I missed that point. Thanks... i have seen the error Thanks! :-D |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 28.11.2005 23:48 |
Now I am adding a like to the Wikipedia article about the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. Now mind you, I didn't have anything to do this this article. Read the part about "criticisms" and tell me if you disagree. link |
Dharankanawala 29.11.2005 01:51 |
DreaminQueen wrote: Hes doing promotion for a tour... Its what people do, they promote things... Its apart of the bizz... Im so sick of hearing how hes ruining the legacy of Queen... he is not... hes helping it live on by bringing it as best he can back to some life because they've been on hiatus for so many years... and yea its not the same since Fred died, but hes dead... and you cannot change that... So lets stop making him sound like an evil man... Hes a sweetheart doing his job... How would someone feel if someone told u that the way u were doing ure job u were egotistical?? Give the guy a break... I LOVE BRIAN!God Bless Brian and Roger for keeping Queen alive...for Freddie:) |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 29.11.2005 02:37 |
To previous poster, I can assure you that, if Brian May is trying to keep Queen alive, he is doing it for himself and not for Freddie. Did you know that Brian could not even make time to be there when Freddie filmed his last video? Where was Brian May? Well, it turns out that he had to be off somewhere else promoting his new solo album, which incidentally sold about 10,000 copies. |
Serry... 29.11.2005 02:44 |
bitch4freddie wrote: Well, it turns out that he had to be off somewhere else promoting his new solo album, which incidentally sold about 10,000 copies.Yes, and his solo album called "Innuendo". |
Dharankanawala 29.11.2005 03:11 |
bitch4freddie wrote: To previous poster, I can assure you that, if Brian May is trying to keep Queen alive, he is doing it for himself and not for Freddie. Did you know that Brian could not even make time to be there when Freddie filmed his last video? Where was Brian May? Well, it turns out that he had to be off somewhere else promoting his new solo album, which incidentally sold about 10,000 copies.Did it ever occur to you,darling,that perhaps Freddie did not want or need him there at that time? Freddie always decided how/when things happened.And Freddie certainly never needed Brian or anyone else to succeed. He did that all on his own,the beautiful man. |
tupincs 29.11.2005 09:57 |
I would almost agree, but even if we remember and still love Freddie, life goes on. I mean perhaps it's time to take a step forward. 14 years are a lot of time. I don't think it was an easy decision to start the Q+PR tour. But Roger and Brian found out that playing in Queen has been their best job. But, we (most of us) , the audience, were really happy to see them again. I enjoyed every second of the concert. Brian has been as much a part of the group as Freddie was. I think if somebody has the right to decide on the future of Queen, then he has. About his Egomania. Well, I think he's a prisoner of his fame. He's an icon for many people, they tend to think he must be perfect. And when he makes a mistake, or says something dumb (that sometimes does happen), it doesn't fit in those people's imagination. I must say, even if I don't agree with him 100 %-ly everytime, but I respect him for his honesty. I think we shouldn't take him too serious. I check his soapbox everyday to see if there's something to laugh about. |
That guy who digs energy domes 29.11.2005 11:06 |
uhh...wow...again... |
deleted user 29.11.2005 11:13 |
Dharankanawala wrote:dont go too far dear, freddie was a key member of the group but he didnt always make every descision. if queen was all about freddie then how come they're touring now with another great artist? brian is not an egomainiac, he does not want all the spotlight to be on him, he is keeping queen alive not for him, but for freddie, it's whate he would have wanted, and for us fans, i think that you are the egomaniac darling, you dont even know brian!!!!bitch4freddie wrote: To previous poster, I can assure you that, if Brian May is trying to keep Queen alive, he is doing it for himself and not for Freddie. Did you know that Brian could not even make time to be there when Freddie filmed his last video? Where was Brian May? Well, it turns out that he had to be off somewhere else promoting his new solo album, which incidentally sold about 10,000 copies.Did it ever occur to you,darling,that perhaps Freddie did not want or need him there at that time? Freddie always decided how/when things happened.And Freddie certainly never needed Brian or anyone else to succeed. He did that all on his own,the beautiful man. |
spymyshadow 29.11.2005 11:52 |
Serry<h6>Inventor of terrible English wrote: Funny thing in such discussions is that someone says "Brian May is not very good as a man, he has terrible character, blah-blah-blah" and then someone replies with "Shut up, he's a great guitarist!". This is why such topics are useless. We're talking on different languages...Not really serry,it's because of his being an artist that I cannot think of brian may as a dreadful human being...he wrote things that people here calling him egomaniac would have never written or even thought. His humbleness alone allowed him to stay by freddie's side so many years, it would have been much easier to start a row and ask for his own portion of fame. However the group came first, and he stayed and fought to give the band also his own shape, all this acting behind the scenes, because music was much more important to him than anything else, even the show, though he would have had so many occasion to gather the attention. |
Serry... 29.11.2005 12:40 |
Good musician/actor/artist doesn't mean a good man. I don't mean Brian, though it clearly seems that he enjoys now being the leader of band - he's a sweet and gentle guy and of course he can write on his site everything he wants to, but it has nothing to do with his guitar playing abilities... |
spymyshadow 29.11.2005 13:05 |
What do you mean then, by being good? Maybe my sense of good is different from yours... maybe you were right after all, we still talk different languages serry...and brian is not the only one who's good and great at the same time, at least for me. |
Serry... 29.11.2005 13:12 |
Being good as a human, not as guitarist. I don't know how it's possible to compare your job with your own persona! Most of comedians are very boring men when they're off stage, but it doesn't make them bad comedians. Some medicine doctors can be very agressive guys, but they still saves people's lives... It's like to say Freddie had a great voice, so he was saint. But we all know - he wasn't. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 29.11.2005 15:09 |
Although Freddie did not need Brian to be successful (after all, Queen may have been an even better band with someone like Slash or Jimmy Page on guitar), it is still pretty thoughtless of him to disappear on Freddie like this. If he had really cared anything for Freddie, then he should have been there to support him during this last video. |
DreaminQueen 29.11.2005 16:11 |
Dharankanawala wrote:Amen to that Dharankanawala!!!DreaminQueen wrote: Hes doing promotion for a tour... Its what people do, they promote things... Its apart of the bizz... Im so sick of hearing how hes ruining the legacy of Queen... he is not... hes helping it live on by bringing it as best he can back to some life because they've been on hiatus for so many years... and yea its not the same since Fred died, but hes dead... and you cannot change that... So lets stop making him sound like an evil man... Hes a sweetheart doing his job... How would someone feel if someone told u that the way u were doing ure job u were egotistical?? Give the guy a break... I LOVE BRIAN!God Bless Brian and Roger for keeping Queen alive...for Freddie:) And all that damn mess about promotion and what not, Brian and Roger have always been the spokesmen for Queen, and Freddie TOLD BRIAN, to GO AHEAD WITH THE SOLO STUFF! So U need to stop being soo subjective about this!!! |
DreaminQueen 29.11.2005 16:19 |
And they all supported eachother in everything they did, Freddie didnt want sympathy and things to be as if he was dying even tho he was, he wanted life to be as normal as possible, no pity...Read the biographies! And Brian felt terrible about the timing of everything, but he had Fred's blessing so for the love of QUEEN and the rest of us here... Lets just try and stop this... And i dont agree w/ that article either from wikipedia... Everyone loves a good conspiracy theroy, and thats all it amounts to |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 29.11.2005 16:25 |
To DreaminQueen, You make some really good points and I really wish that I could believe that you are right. Trust me, I don't want to dislike Brian. I just see him do things that, to me, seem like they might be hurtful to Freddie. Again, maybe you know more about Freddie and Brian than I do. |
DreaminQueen 29.11.2005 17:02 |
bitch4freddie wrote: To DreaminQueen, You make some really good points and I really wish that I could believe that you are right. Trust me, I don't want to dislike Brian. I just see him do things that, to me, seem like they might be hurtful to Freddie. Again, maybe you know more about Freddie and Brian than I do.I dont wanna walk around like i do, but i j/ finished The Definitive Bio literally not even 2 days ago, i can see where some people may get that idea, but its not like that. But i can see uve done some research urself, but much of ure post is based on opinion, as is mine i suppose, but both are based on some facts, however, i disagree with you, and thats ok, what would the world be if everyone agreed w/ everything?? |
MadeInMadhouse 29.11.2005 19:41 |
i DONT KNOW I dont understand this topic... I am Out!! this is deepest as the Brian themes about Astronomy and build electronical things!!! |
john bodega 30.11.2005 07:30 |
I dunno. I think he's got a *right* to be not humble. There's a trick to being modest, or humble, or whatever. Basically, if you're really good at something - don't go flaunting it unecessarily, there's a time and a place. If you're good at juggling, join a circus or busk - don't just brag about it everytime you see your pals. The way I see it, you should only abandon modesty if somebody challenges you. If one practises for tens of years to become brilliant at what they do, then I think they earn the right to be a bit 'bigheaded' as Sir Brian puts it on the GH2 commentary. There is no getting around it, he's a world class guitarist, has written some fantastic songs - just because some people think he's being up himself, is he supposed to pretend that he isn't what he is? BAHAHA. |
tupincs 30.11.2005 07:51 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: uhh...wow...again...Ok, last time I ignored that comment, but now I'm really interested what you mean. Please, explain! Thank you! |
April Lady05 30.11.2005 08:57 |
"Other people have a sense of humor about things, but Brian is so damn serious, especially when he talks about himself, as though every little thing that he does is so important or requires great contemplation. In fact, he does not seem to possess any sense of humor at all." It's not true! Please go to "Interview?... Don't Be Ridiculous!" at link and find the transcript of his chat with Howard Stern! :) (Page 8 or more forward) |
That guy who digs energy domes 30.11.2005 11:05 |
tupincs wrote:This reminds me of the JOHN DEACON:USELESS SHIT forum a couple of weeks ago. So f*cking what, Brian still has some ambition. Besides its his career and he will probably make more whiping his ass than most of us will in a year.<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: uhh...wow...again...Ok, last time I ignored that comment, but now I'm really interested what you mean. Please, explain! Thank you! |
spymyshadow 30.11.2005 12:30 |
Serry<h6>Inventor of terrible English wrote: Being good as a human, not as guitarist. I don't know how it's possible to compare your job with your own persona! Most of comedians are very boring men when they're off stage, but it doesn't make them bad comedians. Some medicine doctors can be very agressive guys, but they still saves people's lives... It's like to say Freddie had a great voice, so he was saint. But we all know - he wasn't.what I meant is being pure evil, not stupid things like being boring or aggressive... From evil comes nothing, not even art. If somebody gives all he/she can in one specific field that can turn out to be good and beneficial to other people, he/she is good. Of course if you mean that art gives no clues about temper, I could agree with you to some extent. Actually my father is a sculptor, and sometimes the worst person I know, but looking at the things he made I cannot think he is totally bad. There is something good and this makes up for all the rest |
Serry... 30.11.2005 14:09 |
Yes, I see. Perhaps we both are right at some points :) |
DreaminQueen 30.11.2005 17:37 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote:lmao!!! this is true!! Hit the nail on the head!tupincs wrote:This reminds me of the JOHN DEACON:USELESS SHIT forum a couple of weeks ago. So f*cking what, Brian still has some ambition. Besides its his career and he will probably make more whiping his ass than most of us will in a year.<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: uhh...wow...again...Ok, last time I ignored that comment, but now I'm really interested what you mean. Please, explain! Thank you! I just dont see anything wrong with what hes doing. I hope someday i can be like ambitious like that in something i love[d]. And what happened in the JOHN DEACON:USELESS SHIT forum?? im brand new to this so i didnt see it. Whatever it is, it doesnt sound good... And that makes me sad :-( |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 30.11.2005 18:05 |
That is too bad that people are saying mean things about John Deacon. Now let me get back to Brian May. OK, another thing that really drives me nuts is that way that he is always making this HUGE production about what a nice guy he is. For instance, one time in an interview he was comparing himself to Freddie. He makes a huge production about how he is so humble and would like to hang out with fans, while Freddie would ignore them. But meanwhile, wasn't Freddie the one who put 100% of his effort into giving the most exciting show for the audience? Meanwhile, Brian May hangs out in the back trying as hard as he can not to make mistakes.While Freddie gives himself to the crowd, Brian May's performances come across as utterly self-absorbed. I also do not trust people who try to make a big deal about how "nice" they are. Often, this is nothing more than some kind of Freudian defense mechanism. Although Brian May makes a big deal about being "humble", this is just his own way of denying what a huge, out-of-control ego he has. |
Sherwood Forest 30.11.2005 18:16 |
bitch4freddie wrote: That is too bad that people are saying mean things about John Deacon. Now let me get back to Brian May. OK, another thing that really drives me nuts is that way that he is always making this HUGE production about what a nice guy he is. For instance, one time in an interview he was comparing himself to Freddie. He makes a huge production about how he is so humble and would like to hang out with fans, while Freddie would ignore them. But meanwhile, wasn't Freddie the one who put 100% of his effort into giving the most exciting show for the audience? Meanwhile, Brian May hangs out in the back trying as hard as he can not to make mistakes.While Freddie gives himself to the crowd, Brian May's performances come across as utterly self-absorbed. I also do not trust people who try to make a big deal about how "nice" they are. Often, this is nothing more than some kind of Freudian defense mechanism. Although Brian May makes a big deal about being "humble", this is just his own way of denying what a huge, out-of-control ego he has.i dont think u quite get it. Brian was the guitarist he never had a chance in the show to impress and put on the best show possible for the crowd but- he did as good as a guitarist can do! he says Freddie wouldnt talk to the fans as much as him- thats true Brian cares to talk to different people more than Freddie and if u watch most of the interviews with Freddie he says it himself! in different words he'll say that he sticks to his veryy close long term friends and doesnt really trust people otherwise. that doesnt mean he hates his fans he just prefers his close relations. BRIAN IS THE OPPOSITE THATS ALL HE IS TRYING TO SAY ur taking everything so damn literal!. And you have to excuse Brian for trying to be the best he can be ya know some people dont like to make mistakes and when they do they like to correct them and make it right- and its to help themselves and thats fine! i bet u do it too! not everyone is like Freddie- OH and keep in mind he pleased people on stage- stage and real life are TOTALLY different and Freddie proves that to be true even more- he says hes totally different than he is on stage think about it, my god u sound so ridiculous! |
HyP 30.11.2005 18:21 |
hoopymrprosser wrote: It is my right to whinge about bloody Americans who can't spell Honour, Humour, Colour, etc etc.I didn't know the brits invented the spoken languages here on planet Earth. Wow! I'll throw away the dictionary and my college education! Someone bettour tell my Mothour. Also, you know that Jim Beach is a real jerk! |
DreaminQueen 30.11.2005 19:01 |
JamieSureWould wrote:All people are different, Bitch4freddie... and jamie already covered the other things i would have said... i dont really understand why you are in soo much hate of brian may, i mean ive read everything uve said, and it j/ seems like alot of hot air... i dont get it... did brian ever do anything to u to make u so angry??bitch4freddie wrote: That is too bad that people are saying mean things about John Deacon. Now let me get back to Brian May. OK, another thing that really drives me nuts is that way that he is always making this HUGE production about what a nice guy he is. For instance, one time in an interview he was comparing himself to Freddie. He makes a huge production about how he is so humble and would like to hang out with fans, while Freddie would ignore them. But meanwhile, wasn't Freddie the one who put 100% of his effort into giving the most exciting show for the audience? Meanwhile, Brian May hangs out in the back trying as hard as he can not to make mistakes.While Freddie gives himself to the crowd, Brian May's performances come across as utterly self-absorbed. I also do not trust people who try to make a big deal about how "nice" they are. Often, this is nothing more than some kind of Freudian defense mechanism. Although Brian May makes a big deal about being "humble", this is just his own way of denying what a huge, out-of-control ego he has.i dont think u quite get it. Brian was the guitarist he never had a chance in the show to impress and put on the best show possible for the crowd but- he did as good as a guitarist can do! he says Freddie wouldnt talk to the fans as much as him- thats true Brian cares to talk to different people more than Freddie and if u watch most of the interviews with Freddie he says it himself! in different words he'll say that he sticks to his veryy close long term friends and doesnt really trust people otherwise. that doesnt mean he hates his fans he just prefers his close relations. BRIAN IS THE OPPOSITE THATS ALL HE IS TRYING TO SAY ur taking everything so damn literal!. And you have to excuse Brian for trying to be the best he can be ya know some people dont like to make mistakes and when they do they like to correct them and make it right- and its to help themselves and thats fine! i bet u do it too! not everyone is like Freddie- OH and keep in mind he pleased people on stage- stage and real life are TOTALLY different and Freddie proves that to be true even more- he says hes totally different than he is on stage think about it, my god u sound so ridiculous! |
teleman 30.11.2005 19:03 |
bitch4freddie wrote: Now I am adding a like to the Wikipedia article about the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. Now mind you, I didn't have anything to do this this article. linkAbsolute BS You made a point of posting a nasty review of ROTC on Amazon.com and you have savaged Brian on wikipedia. |
DreaminQueen 30.11.2005 19:03 |
HyPressure wrote:Why is Jim Beach a jerk??hoopymrprosser wrote: It is my right to whinge about bloody Americans who can't spell Honour, Humour, Colour, etc etc.I didn't know the brits invented the spoken languages here on planet Earth. Wow! I'll throw away the dictionary and my college education! Someone bettour tell my Mothour. Also, you know that Jim Beach is a real jerk! |
That guy who digs energy domes 01.12.2005 11:15 |
bitch4freddie wrote: That is too bad that people are saying mean things about John Deacon. Now let me get back to Brian May. OK, another thing that really drives me nuts is that way that he is always making this HUGE production about what a nice guy he is. For instance, one time in an interview he was comparing himself to Freddie. He makes a huge production about how he is so humble and would like to hang out with fans, while Freddie would ignore them. But meanwhile, wasn't Freddie the one who put 100% of his effort into giving the most exciting show for the audience? Meanwhile, Brian May hangs out in the back trying as hard as he can not to make mistakes.While Freddie gives himself to the crowd, Brian May's performances come across as utterly self-absorbed. I also do not trust people who try to make a big deal about how "nice" they are. Often, this is nothing more than some kind of Freudian defense mechanism. Although Brian May makes a big deal about being "humble", this is just his own way of denying what a huge, out-of-control ego he has.Some dickhead named Cabbage Head made the JD:Useless shit along with Roger Taylor F*cking Dyke forum. You are merely carrying Cabbage Head's legacy |
HyP 01.12.2005 12:15 |
Why is Jim Beach a jerk?? I figured Jim was next up on the Queen dog-pile! Sorry 'bout that. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 01.12.2005 14:34 |
To Teleman, I did not have anything to do with any Brian May of Freddie Mercury Concert articles posted on Wikipedia. Someone else must have written those things. |
teleman 01.12.2005 15:18 |
bitch4freddie wrote: To Teleman, I did not have anything to do with any Brian May of Freddie Mercury Concert articles posted on Wikipedia. Someone else must have written those things.Somehow I doubt it. |
HyP 01.12.2005 15:27 |
Good, cause it was really all John's fault. Isn't it always John's fault? |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 01.12.2005 16:00 |
To Teleman, I noticed that in the past couple of days someone has edited the Wikipedia article about the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in order to omit the comments about Brian May. I am assuming that you did this. Although I did not write the article in the first place, I think that the original comments should be restored. After all, a lot of people in the above posts agree that Brian May was using the concert in order to promote himself. For this reason, I have restored the original comments on the Wikipedia article. Maybe we will just have to have an editing war over this. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 01.12.2005 16:06 |
By the way, I also added a discussion section to the WIkipedia article where people with different opinions can discuss this topic more. Here is the link again: link |
teleman 01.12.2005 18:03 |
bitch4freddie wrote: By the way, I also added a discussion section to the WIkipedia article where people with different opinions can discuss this topic more. Here is the link again: linkI was not the one to change it. I can't be bothered getting into stupid games with stupid people. I'm all for freedom of expression but draw the line at personal attacks. You've chosen to go after Brian for no reason I can fathom. He's a human being encompassing good and bad just like anyone else. Your personal smear campaign against him is based on assumptions with no foundation in fact. |
DreaminQueen 01.12.2005 18:54 |
HyPressure wrote:Why is Jim Beach a jerk?? I figured Jim was next up on the Queen dog-pile! Sorry 'bout that. No problem... I wouldnt be surprised... And Thats BS w/ the whole Roger's a d**e and Johns a usless shit thing... NO THEY"RE NOT!!! THEY WERE ALL ESSENTIAL... Why do ppl feel the need to come here and get everyone worked into a tizzy?? |
deleted user 02.12.2005 13:32 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Oh my god,bitch4freddie wrote: To Sir GH, You say that Freddie did not have any friends. Is this true? I'm not offended at all, I just wonder if you have heard that Freddie was also really hard to get along with. I had always just thought that he didn't like hanging out with famous people other than Elton John, but maybe he angered a lot of people. Does anyone know? I have never heard anything suggesting that he was particularly nasty, but maybe people just don't want to come out and say it.Freddie was simply a very reserved person, and opened himself up to very few people. He once said his only true friend was Mary Austin, but I think he was pretty close to Elton, and in his later years Barbara Valentin and Montserrat Caballe at least. You should at least know the basic facts of Queen history: The band "Queen" was formed by Freddie, Brian and Roger - and in the end only because Freddie suggested that they try something new (instead of "Smile"). The name "Queen" was Freddie's idea. The band Brian and Roger alone (with Tim Staffel) had formed before was "Smile" - and that band certainly disappeared in no-time. |
deleted user 02.12.2005 13:35 |
Oh my god, You should at least know the basic facts of Queen history: The band "Queen" was formed by Freddie, Brian and Roger - and in the end only because Freddie suggested that they try something new (instead of "Smile"). The name "Queen" was Freddie's idea. The band Brian and Roger alone (with Tim Staffel) had formed before was "Smile" - and that band certainly disappeared in no-time. |
That guy who digs energy domes 02.12.2005 16:07 |
DreaminQueen wrote:I figured Jim was next up on the Queen dog-pile! Sorry 'bout that. No problem... I wouldnt be surprised... And Thats BS w/ the whole Roger's a d**e and Johns a usless shit thing... NO THEY"RE NOT!!! THEY WERE ALL ESSENTIAL... Why do ppl feel the need to come here and get everyone worked into a tizzy?? Because it angers us allHyPressure wrote:Why is Jim Beach a jerk?? |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 02.12.2005 16:27 |
Hi Peter, You make a good point about the fact that Brian and Roger constitute "Smile" and not "Queen". Maybe they should be using that name instead. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 02.12.2005 16:40 |
By the way, I notice that an editing war has started on the Wikipedia site! Since Teleman is apparently not involved, I wonder if it is not Brian May himself who is changing the article! After all, he strikes me as the type you would routinely Google his own name as well as check sites such as this one. Well, I recommend that, rather than erasing the criticism section, people instead write their arguments on the discussion page. I have not heard any reasonable arguments against the case that is presented in the criticism section. |
That guy who digs energy domes 02.12.2005 20:13 |
bitch4freddie wrote: By the way, I notice that an editing war has started on the Wikipedia site! Since Teleman is apparently not involved, I wonder if it is not Brian May himself who is changing the article! After all, he strikes me as the type you would routinely Google his own name as well as check sites such as this one. Well, I recommend that, rather than erasing the criticism section, people instead write their arguments on the discussion page. I have not heard any reasonable arguments against the case that is presented in the criticism section.OK, fine you win. Brian cares how his character is portrayed. I'll make a deal with you- Since Brian May is such an asshole, never listen to any song he's written, sang or played any instrument in. In fact, since he is so mean, dont listen to any album his name or work is in. Deal? |
DreaminQueen 02.12.2005 22:32 |
bitch4freddie wrote: Hi Peter, You make a good point about the fact that Brian and Roger constitute "Smile" and not "Queen". Maybe they should be using that name instead.Because not many people know who SMILE is (was), and why would they tour as SMILE performing QUEEN hits?? that doesnt make much sense now does it?? And i agree w/ the deal that u not listen to and or read any of brians stuff if u feel hes such a terrible egotistical man. Because many of us here disagree with you entirely. And as someone said, it angers us all. I think u like to stir the waters and rock the boat all at once. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 03.12.2005 00:13 |
Oh my god! Something very funny has happened to the Wikipedia article! I just noticed that a new "criticisms" paragraph has been installed and it is absolutely hilarious! Go read it now and see why this must be one of the funniest articles on wikipedia! By the way, I did not write it at all. The only thing that I ever wrote was that rotten review of ROTC on link. |
teleman 03.12.2005 01:27 |
bitch4freddie wrote: Oh my god! Something very funny has happened to the Wikipedia article! I just noticed that a new "criticisms" paragraph has been installed and it is absolutely hilarious! Go read it now and see why this must be one of the funniest articles on wikipedia! By the way, I did not write it at all. The only thing that I ever wrote was that rotten review of ROTC on link.And yet you have said exactly the same thing in your comments on QZ. Sure it's just a coincidence. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 03.12.2005 01:43 |
Teleman, I swear that I have nothing to do with what is or was on wikipedia. That's why I was pretty surprised. Well, it sure is funny. and you have to admit that the arguments are not bad. However, I am disappointed that I haven't seen anyone in the "discussion" page that I put up. I sort of hoped that we could have a real debate in there about this. It represents a pretty serious accusation, I think, so I am surprised that no one wants to come to Brian May's side here. At the end of the day, I think that people realize what a disturbing thing he did that day. |
Dharankanawala 03.12.2005 02:23 |
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Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 03.12.2005 17:21 |
OK, guys, I just went back and added the original "comments" back to the Wikipedia article. I still have not seen any good discussion taking place, although a lot of people are clearly in there making edits. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 03.12.2005 17:21 |
OK, guys, I just went back and added the original "comments" back to the Wikipedia article. I still have not seen any good discussion taking place, although a lot of people are clearly in there making edits. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 03.12.2005 17:26 |
By the way, here is a link to the site again: link Here is a like to the "history" page: link |
The Real Wizard 03.12.2005 18:13 |
bitch4freddie wrote: Teleman, I swear that I have nothing to do with what is or was on wikipedia. That's why I was pretty surprised. Well, it sure is funny. and you have to admit that the arguments are not bad. However, I am disappointed that I haven't seen anyone in the "discussion" page that I put up. I sort of hoped that we could have a real debate in there about this. It represents a pretty serious accusation, I think, so I am surprised that no one wants to come to Brian May's side here. At the end of the day, I think that people realize what a disturbing thing he did that day.I find it to be a mild coincidence that the editing didn't begin until you started posting anti-Brian stuff here. The Queenzone operators know your IP address, and when necessary, they will do what they need to do. Brian wasn't being an egomaniac at the Freddie tribute. He was mourning the loss of his best friend. He couldn't care which songs were played and which weren't. You obviously have no sense of emotion inside you. Get a life. |
DreaminQueen 03.12.2005 19:19 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:might i say that is the greatest burn i have ever seen in my life!!!!bitch4freddie wrote: Teleman, I swear that I have nothing to do with what is or was on wikipedia. That's why I was pretty surprised. Well, it sure is funny. and you have to admit that the arguments are not bad. However, I am disappointed that I haven't seen anyone in the "discussion" page that I put up. I sort of hoped that we could have a real debate in there about this. It represents a pretty serious accusation, I think, so I am surprised that no one wants to come to Brian May's side here. At the end of the day, I think that people realize what a disturbing thing he did that day.I find it to be a mild coincidence that the editing didn't begin until you started posting anti-Brian stuff here. The Queenzone operators know your IP address, and when necessary, they will do what they need to do. Brian wasn't being an egomaniac at the Freddie tribute. He was mourning the loss of his best friend. He couldn't care which songs were played and which weren't. You obviously have no sense of emotion inside you. Get a life. Thats what everyones been trying to tell bitch4freddie... its not sinking in... and i dont think it will either |
That guy who digs energy domes 04.12.2005 22:40 |
Q.O.W. : Wrestle-maniac This kid can be seen in the early hours of the morning and latter hours of the night wrestling and running. Some say hes obsessed, others say he has ambition. Whenever we approach him, he can never hear us because hes always listening to Queen. He likes to sleep during his Advanced Algebra class. There, now I'm an asshole like brian. |
DreaminQueen 05.12.2005 20:00 |
<marquee>Queen Of Wrestling</marquee> wrote: Q.O.W. : Wrestle-maniac This kid can be seen in the early hours of the morning and latter hours of the night wrestling and running. Some say hes obsessed, others say he has ambition. Whenever we approach him, he can never hear us because hes always listening to Queen. He likes to sleep during his Advanced Algebra class. There, now I'm an asshole like brian.HA!!! And once again i say, BURN! Someone get Bitch4Freddie some ice! Call me crazy, but i dont see any ego in there whatsoever... how about anyone else? Cuz if thats ego, i wanna see humble. |
HyP 06.12.2005 14:56 |
bitch4freddie wrote: OK, guys, I just went back and added the original "comments" back to the Wikipedia article. I still have not seen any good discussion taking place, although a lot of people are clearly in there making edits.God, someone needs a life!!!! Bitch4freddie, have you tried the personals? If you include a picture, wipe the butter off your face. |
The Real Wizard 15.12.2005 02:02 |
Why is Brian May NOT an egomaniac? This is a perfect reason why: Queen + Paul Rodgers turned down playing at Live 8, because they already had a gig in Lisbon on that day. Just think of all the publicity they could have gotten from playing Live 8... but they turned it down because they didn't want to disappoint their Portugese fans. Perhaps the topic starter could consider this... |
DreaminQueen 15.12.2005 18:11 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Why is Brian May NOT an egomaniac? This is a perfect reason why: Queen + Paul Rodgers turned down playing at Live 8, because they already had a gig in Lisbon on that day. Just think of all the publicity they could have gotten from playing Live 8... but they turned it down because they didn't want to disappoint their Portugese fans. Perhaps the topic starter could consider this...Game...Set...Point... MATCH! |
Sherwood Forest 15.12.2005 18:38 |
valid point but this thread should have been gone ages ago |
The Real Wizard 15.12.2005 21:08 |
JamieSureWould wrote: valid point but this thread should have been gone ages agoYeah, I know, but it came to mind, so I felt like posting! Yay for freedom of speech. The editing battle continues at wikipedia: link Some wonderful soul has edited it to actually be factual this time. It probably won't last long, so check it out while you can. |
Freddie's #1 Fan Forever 16.12.2005 01:42 |
Hi Sir GH, Yes, I agree that it was good that they were loyal to their fans in Portugal. However, could you imagine how disrespectful that would be if they did show up at Live 8 with Paul Rodgers? I wouldn't be surprised if this would have been met with great hostility. After all, Freddie Mercury himself basically stole the original Live Aid show. For them to invite Paul Rodgers to "take Freddie Mercury's place" for the Live Aid sequel would be disrespectful beyond belief, don't you think? My point is that they may have also been afraid about the kind of reaction that they might get from the crowd. Brian knows how loyal people are to Freddie and that is probably what stopped him. |
deleted user 16.12.2005 03:03 |
okay then ... |
The Real Wizard 16.12.2005 04:20 |
Bitch4Freddie wrote: Hi Sir GH, Yes, I agree that it was good that they were loyal to their fans in Portugal. However, could you imagine how disrespectful that would be if they did show up at Live 8 with Paul Rodgers? I wouldn't be surprised if this would have been met with great hostility. After all, Freddie Mercury himself basically stole the original Live Aid show. For them to invite Paul Rodgers to "take Freddie Mercury's place" for the Live Aid sequel would be disrespectful beyond belief, don't you think? My point is that they may have also been afraid about the kind of reaction that they might get from the crowd. Brian knows how loyal people are to Freddie and that is probably what stopped him.Perhaps you're right, but now you're just reaching, now that you know you can't prove that Brian's an egomaniac. There are dozens of examples in this topic proving you wrong, so now you've been reduced to speculation. |
deleted user 16.12.2005 05:30 |
Bitch4Freddie wrote: Hi Sir GH, Yes, I agree that it was good that they were loyal to their fans in Portugal. However, could you imagine how disrespectful that would be if they did show up at Live 8 with Paul Rodgers? I wouldn't be surprised if this would have been met with great hostility. After all, Freddie Mercury himself basically stole the original Live Aid show. For them to invite Paul Rodgers to "take Freddie Mercury's place" for the Live Aid sequel would be disrespectful beyond belief, don't you think? My point is that they may have also been afraid about the kind of reaction that they might get from the crowd. Brian knows how loyal people are to Freddie and that is probably what stopped him.Nope it wouldn't be disrespectfull...Live Aid is nothing to do with Freddie.... He has performened, taken the show...Live aid was to help rase money for ppl in Africa, that was the main perpose... Live 8 was a more awarness concert, to put pression on the G8 country leaders.... The important of this concert is not to show off or what so ever, but to show the worldleaders we do not agree with them way to lead the country... And the reason they didn't join in was because they had a concert the 2 july and that was planned much longer before there was any question about live8... So many months after the concert + promise of those G8 leaders and nearly nothing has been done yet... Wha I kind of find funny is that ppl from 40-50-60 years old where those who got us democrasy and now we've got it(pretend to have it) we just barry our head in the sand and pretent we don't know what the politions are doing...Oh yes, wha war in Iraq?.... Oh, is there ppl dying in niger, how come? |
Togg 16.12.2005 07:45 |
Bitch4Freddie wrote: Hi Sir GH, Yes, I agree that it was good that they were loyal to their fans in Portugal. However, could you imagine how disrespectful that would be if they did show up at Live 8 with Paul Rodgers? I wouldn't be surprised if this would have been met with great hostility. After all, Freddie Mercury himself basically stole the original Live Aid show. For them to invite Paul Rodgers to "take Freddie Mercury's place" for the Live Aid sequel would be disrespectful beyond belief, don't you think? My point is that they may have also been afraid about the kind of reaction that they might get from the crowd. Brian knows how loyal people are to Freddie and that is probably what stopped him.'Disrespectful'what are you smoking? how the hell can it be disrespectful unless Paul stood up and started sing 'Freddie is a wanker'? I think the whole world must know by now that Freddie is dead so do you think they would all be sitting waiting for him to come on stage? Unless you are a moron I think it's safe to assume that any part or configuration of Queen would have had a warm welcome at Live 8, I seriously don't think the crowd could give two hoots about Paul being there in place of Freddie. It wasn't a Queen concert after all. And on that note as we have see the true Queen fans have all rushed to see the sell out tour, I think it's safe to assume that apart from as far as I can see three people on the board everyone else is glad they are back in business. So you three go stand in a corner and sulk, we don't mind. |
DreaminQueen 16.12.2005 16:11 |
THE END! FINITO! The points are going back and forth, this is a never ending tennis match and B4F is losing horribly i think |
Zurriago 11.06.2006 22:13 |
I must say to "Fat Queen Pig" : You must be smoking some serious bad-ass weed to come up with that this conclusion of Brian. Get your head out of your ass and don't mess with your brain. Theoretically speaking... |
Zurriago 11.06.2006 22:13 |
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Zurriago 11.06.2006 22:14 |
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deleted user 12.06.2006 06:38 |
Meh who cares his a rock star, rockstars can have big egos :P |
deleted user 12.06.2006 06:39 |
Meh who cares his a rock star, rockstars can have big egos :P |
k.dodo 12.06.2006 13:25 |
Yes!!!!! I've always wanted to say that! When I first so him I tought he looks so egomanic, I still think he is, but it's not a problam or sg, I'm quite egoist as well :P |
k.dodo 12.06.2006 13:25 |
Yes!!!!! I've always wanted to say that! When I first so him I tought he looks so egomanic, I still think he is, but it's not a problam or sg, I'm quite egoist as well :P |
Grapes 12.06.2006 15:35 |
you fool |